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Liz LaSorte's avatar

If there is only one prayer that we need answered, it is to please not let Charlie Kirk die in vain.

Is it hateful to shine a light on the hedonistic lifestyle that the cultural/spiritual war created? It is hateful to preach the freedom that living a wholesome lifestyle yields?

Charlie Kirk might have been one of the least hateful people out there. He was a warrior in this horrible cultural and spiritual war that began in the 20th century.

It’s sad to think that all the soldiers since Korea and Vietnam might have died in vain. Let’s not allow that to happen to a man who wanted to change the course of American history for the better because Big Government SUCKS: https://lizlasorte.substack.com/p/he-died-for-our-freedom?r=76q58

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Truman Verdun's avatar

On the theme of the spiritual war, it's enlightening that the deep etymology of "diabolical," pertaining to the Devil, is "liar, slanderer, accuser," one who "throws [obstructions] across the path." Sure sounds like much of today's political, economic, academic, and media behavior.

The Rx includes, prominently, exposing the truth, whatever it is, whether convenient or not. When truth and reality become visible again, like bedrock from under the muck, viable rebuilding can begin.

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Carl L. McWilliams's avatar

“One must choose between God and Man, and all ‘radicals’ and 'progressives", from the mildest liberal to the most extreme anarchist, have in effect chosen Man.”

George Orwell

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John Sutton's avatar

@grok The quote is from Jacques Maritain's 1942 essay collection A travers le désastre (often translated as Twilight of Civilization), specifically in the section critiquing secular humanism and totalitarianism. It's a direct reflection of his Thomistic philosophy, where he contrasts theocentric (God-centered) and anthropocentric (Man-centered) worldviews.

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Liz LaSorte's avatar

Winston Smith did not believe in God...

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Carl L. McWilliams's avatar

Neither do the deep state Communists, who have embedded themselves into the federal government "believe in God".

As you know Liz, Winston Smith is a fictional character and the protagonist of George Orwell's dystopian novel "1984". He was employed by Orwell as an everyman character. Weak and unattractive, Winston exists under a brutal, oppressive regime in Oceania, a totalitarian super-state. He works in the Ministry of Truth, rewriting historical documents for the Party, which is led by Big Brother. In defiance of the Party's directives, he begins to have revolutionary ideas, making him guilty of "thoughtcrime". He takes further risk by beginning a forbidden secret affair with Julia, a fellow worker. The affair is eventually discovered and they are arrested by the Thought Police.

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Carl L. McWilliams's avatar

My biggest fear is the Democrat/Marxists will take back the White House in 2028 - and then similar to FDR stealing We the People's gold in 1933; these latest Communists will nationalize ownership of the AI industry. With AI becoming the Thought Police, instead of leaving the entrepreneurs and developers of AI in control.

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Phil Denter's avatar

Trump's WEF mandates are to smash Greenland, Canada and the USA into the Club of Rome's New World Order Region 1 - North American Union (NAU), instigate then manage the bankruptcy of US Inc. and its phoney-bologna US$ and facilitate the transition from the prosperous corporatocracy that we knew (and loved) to their new thousand-times-worse-than-Orwellian technocracy.

Trump brokering and providing Larry Ellison & Peter Thiel with a half a TRILLION[!] of Rothchilds' fiat duckets falls into that last mandate. Ellison & Thiel are developing our Super-AI (the biblical Beast System) to, among other things, custom build, in 48 hours, an mRNA jab to "cure" you of cancer(s) that you don't even have!

I shit you not.

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And you're concerned that some other party will wrest AI away from the current monsters? Have another glass of Kool-aid, comrade.

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Casey Jones's avatar

He didn't exist, either.

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Liz LaSorte's avatar

He existed in Orwell's head and when he said he didn't believe in God when O'Brien was torturing him, it spoke volumes to me.

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Lugh's avatar

Winston broke as virtually all people do under torture. The old rats eating your face gambit finally did it. "Do it to Julia", he cried, and then told them anything they wanted to know, as well as confessing to everything.

Revolutionary movements how much pain the body contains and ask their people to try to hold out for a day or two so they can made adjustments.

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Breck Breckenridge's avatar

I shared this on my Facebook verbatim Truman!

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Truman Verdun's avatar

Thank you kindly, Breck. If you want to read any more on the themes of truth and the tyrants' fear of Wizard of Oz exposure ("alethophobia"), it's in this essay:

https://trumanverdun.substack.com/p/winning-the-long-game-the-dogged

All the best, TV

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Breck Breckenridge's avatar

Thank you, again! I've found a spiritual brother. I'm reading your substack essay right now. Satyagraha indeed.

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Terry Cook's avatar

As did I.

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Ron Anselmo's avatar

The one prayer we need answered is who assassinated Charlie Kirk.

Ballistics and trajectory indicate he was shot from behind, from up above his right shoulder. Possibly entering below his right ear and exiting the left side of his neck. It was a professional hit.

The contemporary video shows an exit wound, not an entry wound. Start there. Cui bono?

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Liber8or's avatar

Seems like it's always a Lee Harvey Oswald scenario with an old bolt action rifle. Magic bullet theory with evidence whisked away ASAP. JFK, Timothy McVeigh, 9-11, Mandalay Bay Las Vegas, Sandy Hook, Fast and Furious gun running. etc, etc.

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Lugh's avatar

Robinson is a dead ringer for Oswald. Is he an immortal, a Highlander like Putin? Or is he just the patsy "type"?

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Cankerpuss's avatar

And the fucking media is turning the dude into a celebrity. Soon there will be a movie made about him and a book written about him. No doubt we will have some filthy news outlet do an interview with him. Our society makes me sick.

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SheilaB's avatar

He's a patsy. Anyone who believes the official story on the CK assassination (or 'assassination') needs their head read or has their reasons for pushing the narrative. Robinson is a psyop. This is going to go exactly where the real people behind this want it to go. Prepare for the theocracy. And then the mark.

"Come out of her, my people." Revelation 18:4

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Alzaebo's avatar

Charlie would've taken half the Evangelical Right with him if he had begun to question Bibi's war.

They're doing regime change to put Little Benny Shapiro or Milo the Gay Yiannopolous in his place so they can steer.

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SheilaB's avatar

Possibly, but he was looking very much like converting to catholicism at some point soon. There's a lot of catholic 'converting' going on, some maybe genuine, some not. The Jesuits have been busy for a long long time, trying to reverse the Reformation, infiltrating protestant churches and causing them to implode with nonsense. Some say they run the Zionists and will soon throw them under the bus. The protestant dispensationalists will collapse in tears if that happens. Difficult to know what's happening but it's pretty much NEVER what the Mockingbird media are laser-pointing us towards (not that I watch them but you do get to know the main takes anyway). Nor is it what the fake-alternative media are laser-pointing to in response. So, if one's saying Robinson and the other's saying Mossad, it's probably neither.

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The Great Resist's avatar

I recently inherited an “old bolt action rifle.” It was made in 1915 in England for WWI. No fancy scope, just iron sights. I haven’t had a chance to shoot it yet, but my husband has, and he found it to be surprisingly true and accurate, better than most new rifles.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

Spot on Ron! The bullet entered from the right and exited at the left, hence his falling to his left after being shot. Oddly enough authorities do not appear to even be looking for the slug.

I also do not believe he was shot with a 30.06. Had it been a 30.06 his neck would have been blown apart. I have a 30.06 and I shoot watermelons, cantaloupes, blocks of cheese and so forth and a 30.06 makes a real mess of softer targets. Just saying.

See my other post about what Candace Owens is theorizing about his assassination. I do not believe his assassination was an isolated hit by some rando from St. George Utah.

I noticed in the arraignment hearing that the kid who is charged with killing Kirk was dressed in a suicide cloak, or some kind of anti-suicide garment. Hmmm.

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Blue eyed squint's avatar

https://youtu.be/ltakvGyzfZs?feature=shared

Here is a video from a Marine recon sniper examining 4 camera angles. Shot clearly came from right rear and exited neck left which was visible to everyone. No body armor.

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Lugh's avatar

This is the first I'm hearing about this. What is the official narrative about where the bullet entered and exited. Where does "your" theory place the shooter? On some other roof?

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Bradley Lewis's avatar

The comment above yours has linked the video with analysis, though I still have problems with a couple of things in it. 1) With a shot from Kirk's upper-right why do we not witness anyone reacting or flinching by ducking and then looking toward the direction from which the shot came? 2) In his breakdown he does some frame-by-frame and with a freeze-frame a single frame prior to impact he shows a spec in the shot which he offers is the bullet nearing Kirk. This I simply have a question about as to the possibility that a bullet traveling at such high speed can actually be visibly spotted in the frame. And, if possible, would it not be a lengthier blur at such high speed. He posits that is the bullet as though it is fact and I find that to be quite an assumption.

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Paul Scott's avatar

Yes, even at 2000 fps and shutter speed 125th second [not frame rate ] the bullet would travel 16 feet. Any still frames you see of bullets [ as also at Butler] are fraudulent as Butler was or wrongly interpreted frame

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Bradley Lewis's avatar

Thanks. This is what I figured to be the case- that at best we might see a blur if anything- but I hadn't heard anyone weigh in on this assumption that effectively renders this alternative theory as a potential plant to deflect from a hypothesis of staged event.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

Lugh, first of all, it isn't my theory, just a theory that I had read. The argument is that CK fell to the left. If the bullet entered his neck from the front left should not the energy from the round moved him back and to the right? The theorist I read suggests the shooter was closer, elevated and the caliber was smaller than a 30.06. No specific locations were suggested.

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Paul Scott's avatar

Yes the physics are simple transfer of momentum and these spinal reflex jerks to the opposite are nonsense.. This false theory was advanced to explain the backwards lurch of Kennedy

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Breck Breckenridge's avatar

I believe (the autopsy will show) that the bullet was still in Charlie's body, specifically the cranium. He was wearing a bulletproof thing under that T-shirt. The bullet hit the edge of it and richoceted up into his neck and then on into the cranium.

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Paul Scott's avatar

You won't hear anything true from an autopsy as you didn't with Kennedy

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Breck Breckenridge's avatar

No comparison, unless the Utah county coroner was prohibited from performed his assigned legal duty, and Kirk's body was whisked away on Air Force 1 to Walter Reed.

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Paul Scott's avatar

Take a wager with me that you will learn anything useful

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Ringmaster's avatar

How could he have been wearing a bulletproof proof vest or armor when his nipple was visible under his shirt?

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Breck Breckenridge's avatar

This is discussed in the Paramount videos [q.v.]

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Paul Scott's avatar

You can't > he was not > he should have

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Ron Anselmo's avatar

Good eye!

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Ringmaster's avatar

Thanks, but I can’t the take credit; Valhalla VFT pointed it out in this YT video:

“Was Charlie Kirk’s Shooting a Professional Assassination? Full Breakdown.”

https://youtu.be/LNhwF392PF0

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Cankerpuss's avatar

I've heard the same ricochet theory as well. It's certainly plausible.

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Breck Breckenridge's avatar

My information/speculation came from a veteran sniper of the U.S. armed forces (Green Berets, etc.). See here: https://youtu.be/o2F1BatlSBU?si=9iHrq_anV6i7J05i This fellow with his channel is the real deal. He knows his ballistics, etc.

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Ron Anselmo's avatar

He's misinformed. On purpose? I don't know. He supports the official story. Good for him.

He's confused on energy transfer.

If shot from the front, Kirk's body would have lurched forward, not back. In a head on collision in a car - energy transfer from the front - you're going through the front wind shield - forward, not back.

Since he was shot from the back, Kirk's body lurched backward, not forward. Rear-ended in a collision in a car - energy transfer from the back - you're going through the back wind shield back, not forward.

It's not that complicated, it's simple physics. This guy is a shill.

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Paul Scott's avatar

possible and very very unlikely

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Liz LaSorte's avatar

I describe 1984 as a love story in a world where Love is forbidden.

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Paul Black's avatar

Seen an FB video where a guy to CKs right looks like he shot him holding a gun under his armpit.

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Paul Scott's avatar

Yes, but how could tis work?

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Ben's avatar
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There is video of a crowd member wandering off after the shooting with a pistol drawn.

CCW but he also appeared to be trying to hide it.

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Alzaebo's avatar

Plus the old yazoo making a racket, shouting "I did it, kill me!" and dropping his pants. Turns out he was a direct witness to 9/11, too, and watched it dancing.

Gave people time to get away, he did. I wonder if he was coordinating with the FBI guy throwing hand signals behind Charlie, who very likely was the same FBI guy at Butler, PA?

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Paul Scott's avatar

The Patsy on the roof was already running when the crowd reacted to the shot

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Bradley Lewis's avatar

While that analysis, which I have seen online, is clearly a feasible one compared to the nonsense we are being fed as the 'official' (phony) narrative, I am not convinced of that either. There are still obvious issues for me with that as well. I question the entire event , though, as the saying goes, "that ship has sailed" and we have undoubtedly entered a new phase as Mr. Kunstler points out.

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Ron Anselmo's avatar

Agree, but physics outweigh the narratives every time. As Jim also, says, I'm *standing by* on this one. I will say this, as I often do, *I don't know the truth, but I know what we are being told is not the truth.* Having one's intelligence continually getting insulted gets old. On that, we can probably all agree.

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wkenn's avatar

I’m still letting this marinate. As I mentioned on a different Substack thus week, this story has more holes than the Swiss cheese in my fridge.

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Paul Scott's avatar

Consider the possibility of a false flag. The venous blood rush is massively excessive to the normal jugular 10cm flow. The upward hand and arm movement of Charlie looks contrived. Once CNS black out occurs, all movement is in collapse mode.. Erika Kirk seemed overprepared for the entire event. I have never seen anyone so apparently schooled and acting. There are many possibilities why this could have been arranged.

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Bradley Lewis's avatar

Certainly. I have favored this being staged after seeing Erika Kirk's staged long 'tribute' and a close analysis of the close up front view of the 'shooting', however, it is only possible to infer this without anything being definitive. Therefore, I have to leave open that he was murdered but certainly not in the way the gov't narrative would describe it. Thanks for the input.

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Paul Scott's avatar

Consider the possibility of a false flag. The venous blood rush is massively excessive to the normal jugular 10cm flow. The upward hand and arm movement of Charlie looks contrived. Once CNS black out occurs, all movement is in collapse mode.. Erika Kirk seemed overprepared for the entire event. I have never seen anyone so apparently schooled and acting. There are many possibilities why this could have been arranged.

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Breck Breckenridge's avatar

All will come out from the county coroner's office.

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Ron Anselmo's avatar

You're violating my normalcy bias.

To wit:

We were lied to yesterday, we are lied to today, therefore we will be lied to tomorrow.

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Paul Scott's avatar

Consider the possibility of a false flag. The venous blood rush is massively excessive to the normal jugular 10cm flow. The upward hand and arm movement of Charlie looks contrived. Once CNS black out occurs, all movement is in collapse mode.. Erika Kirk seemed overprepared for the entire event. I have never seen anyone so apparently sch

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Paul Scott's avatar

No it will not

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Breck Breckenridge's avatar

This is why we have autopsies. And I doubt this one will be fraudulently performed like that on JFK.

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Bradley Lewis's avatar

Why on earth would you doubt that? We already have a transparently phony narrative regarding the event. The autopsy should have taken place a week ago-- especially with regard to the bullet supposedly still lodged in his neck (which would not be possible). So we'll have another "magic-bullet" style story with the bullet suddenly appearing two weeks later. No No autopsy which clearly should have been performed, no record of an official declaration of death from someone qualified to do so-- instead we here it from Trump. No ambulance on site for immediate resuscitation efforts, no video of or from a hospital, no doctor or any other health professional making a statement or even a brief question from the press, and on and on with this nonsense story.

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Breck Breckenridge's avatar

I'm not sure to what you refer. I can't keep up with all of the posts. I was informed of yours as it was a direct reply to one of mine. I have seen a news report which stated plainly that an autopsy was performed as per usual in cases of violent death by the county coroner's office. A report from the autopsy is not made immediately to the public - ever. It is evidence of a crime and as such is kept safe and is ready for prosecutors, police, etc. It will eventually be released at the appropriate time.

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Bradley Lewis's avatar

I've personally not heard anything regarding an autopsy taking place, though that should have occurred shortly following death pronouncement (which we have no certified professional making that announcement that I know of either-- it was Trump publicly). I know of one person (this was via another Substack site) stating he had called a coroner's office in whichever county Kirk was, or was allegedly taken to try to confirm an autopsy had taken place and whoever he reached refused to answer. So no confirmation or denial. Now, I do take that as just a guy making that claim, but as I said I have heard nothing about an autopsy even occurring, let alone official declaration of death, no doctor, no hospital he was supposed to have been taken to, offering a statement, a brief interview, and so on. It's all highly shrouded and unusual and frankly the official narrative is actually a total joke and anyone who can think critically can see that. Like your "evidence of crime" phrase-- the site of the "shooting" was not taped off and it's already being torn up and altered-- pretty clear operation going on. If you can't acknowledge that then good luck. And still no bullet that supposedly stayed in the body? Please.

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Paul Scott's avatar

Consider the possibility of a false flag. The venous blood rush is massively excessive to the normal jugular 10cm flow. The upward hand and arm movement of Charlie looks contrived. Once CNS black out occurs, all movement is in collapse mode.. Erika Kirk seemed overprepared for the entire event. I have never seen anyone so apparently sch

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Letsrock's avatar

A week later and we have yet to hear about any autopsy. They have already begun 'burying' the evidence as concrete is being poured to seal the site of the assassination. Unbelievable.

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Peter S's avatar

you mean like all the autopsies on the MRNA murder victims???

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Ron Anselmo's avatar

You're violating my normalcy bias.

To wit:

We were lied to yesterday, we are lied to today, therefore we will be lied to tomorrow.

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Night owl's avatar

Yep, sounds about right.

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Paul Scott's avatar

What on earth makes you think that This thing is very high level, including the trans controlled Patsy on the roof.

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Paul Scott's avatar

Consider the possibility of a false flag. The venous blood rush is massively excessive to the normal jugular 10cm flow. The upward hand and arm movement of Charlie looks contrived. Once CNS black out occurs, all movement is in collapse mode.. Erika Kirk seemed overprepared for the entire event. I have never seen anyone so apparently schooled and acting. There are many possibilities why this could have been arranged.

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Lugh's avatar

And is that new phase being orchestrated by those behind the assassin? If they can cancel Jimmy Kimmel, won't they cancel people who criticize Israel?

After 9/11, Bill Maher got thrown off the air for saying that the Jihadis were brave men. Churchill said the same about an earlier version of them whom he fought (the Dervishes), "No braver men ever lived".

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Bradley Lewis's avatar

Who's the assassin? There doesn't even have to be one, but if there is we certainly never know who it was and who/what is behind this.

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Paul Scott's avatar

Consider the possibility of a false flag. The venous blood rush is massively excessive to the normal jugular 10cm flow. The upward hand and arm movement of Charlie looks contrived. Once CNS black out occurs, all movement is in collapse mode.. Erika Kirk seemed overprepared for the entire event. I have never seen anyone so apparently sch

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Breck Breckenridge's avatar

That's one theory. In that case this murder more resembles that of RFK than JFK.

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BonWil's avatar

If the neck injury was from an exit wound, has the bullet been recovered?

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Ron Anselmo's avatar

It probably plinked off of Aunt Millie's hat and landed in her purse. They'll find it next week, next to her emery board, tissues and her Chiclets. A .30-06 round, don't you know.

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Paul Scott's avatar

yes you are getting close >> Consider the possibility of a false flag. The venous blood rush is massively excessive to the normal jugular 10cm flow. The upward hand and arm movement of Charlie looks contrived. Once CNS black out occurs, all movement is in collapse mode.. Erika Kirk seemed overprepared for the entire event. I have never seen anyone so apparently sch

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Breck Breckenridge's avatar

There is a question about whether there was an "exit wound". Much of this issue can and will be answered when the autopsy is released, which it has not yet been.

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Ron Anselmo's avatar

You're violating my normalcy bias.

To wit:

We were lied to yesterday, we are lied to today, therefore we will be lied to tomorrow.

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Coalburned's avatar

Well said 👍

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Silent scorn's avatar

He has not died in vain! Turning Point has received over 30,000 applications to open new chapters all over the country, I believe that two weeks ago thee were 3400. That’s approaching a ten fold increase. Charlie is smiling at us from heaven as his ministry explodes and new soldiers take up their duties. God bless.

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Kathy Lux's avatar

Amen, Sister.

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The Cosmic Onion's avatar

They tell us this is just politics, but anyone with field-sense can smell the sulfur. A man cut down, a widow breathing fire, and suddenly the mask slips — you glimpse the ritual underneath. Kunstler isn’t wrong to call it exorcism. The parasites dressed in suits and gavels still hiss when light hits them, and Kash Patel tossing scripture-level banishment lines on the Senate floor is the kind of theater that makes the demons flinch.

But let’s not pretend martyrdom alone fixes a rotting structure. Legends are forged in blood, yes, but parasites don’t fall without sustained coherence. Charlie Kirk has been sainted in record time — post office mural, Davy Crockett tier — but the real work is whether the living remember what’s actually being fought: narrative sovereignty. The wolves know this fight isn’t over ballots or committees. It’s about whether the field belongs to truth or to the whispering shadows.

When the fire compels, the wolves don’t dance — they howl. And the howl carries farther than any Senate speech.

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Bill Bradford's avatar

"When the fire compels, the wolves don't dance -- they howl." (And the howl carries farther than any Senate speech.") - .....to make SURE that I'm understanding correctly, would you please write a line or 2 in explanation? I did see a clip of Kash Patel rebuking Adam Schiff.

I can't help it, but to me, Schiff is a nasty, slimy, weasel little worm of a man. I don't like him at all, or respect him beyond a basic human decency. I find him mildly disgusting. I feel sorry for him. HOW did he ever get elected in the first place?....

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Letsrock's avatar

You feel sorry for him??? You must not know about the Standard Hotel (Chateau Marmont) scandal. This alone should have seen him locked up long ago.

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Bill Bradford's avatar

I just now quickly googled that Standard Hotel/Chateau Marmont scandal. Never heard of it. Was Schiff involved? I'd love to see Schiff locked up after a criminal conviction. When I wrote "feel sorry", let me clarify. I'm sorry I'm NOT sorry.

But I'm NOT a cruel man. Karma will come for Adam Schiff, either before, or when he meets his maker.... "Vengeance is mine, sayeth the Lord."....tell us more?....

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Letsrock's avatar

Try Ed Buck and Schiff

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The Cosmic Onion's avatar

Got it, Bill — I hear you. A true howl cuts farther than any polished speech, and that’s exactly what came through.

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Bill Bradford's avatar

Thank-you for that concise encyclopedia of meaning, my friend!

HoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooOWL!

And sometimes, silence is deafening, amirite?

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Breck Breckenridge's avatar

"HOW did he ever get elected in the first place"?

Well I reckoned any one reading Jim Kunstler would know the answer to that question. But then I paused and reflected. No, not "any one". This audience is probably growing daily so I shouldn't make assumptions.

Well, basically, here's the deal as I see it. Certain cities, counties and states are pretty darned corrupt. This allows them to choose people like Schiff to "run" for office and then it also gives them the power to elect them BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. We saw this in full blown action on the night of the 2020 General Election. OK? will that do?

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Bill Bradford's avatar

I believe that I'm reading you loud & clear, right?

And in the same vein, I believe you'll agree, most people don't know that

Nancy Pelosi is Gavin Gruesome's aunt, right?....

Also, Schiff's district includes Disneyland. Or is it Hollywood? Both? Amirite?....lol

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Silent scorn's avatar

Election fraud -we already know it’s rampant.

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Julie Harris's avatar

Well said

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The Cosmic Onion's avatar

Thank you Julie Harris

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Lugh's avatar

Yes, the Zionists are intent on using him even though he was in process of rejecting them.

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The Cosmic Onion's avatar

I agree with Clif High on Zionism and the evils created by Abrahamic religions... all of them worship a psychopathic tyrant... Not God, but 'gods' who still control the planet... check out this one. => https://cosmiconion.substack.com/p/the-parasites-boss

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Lugh's avatar

The Demiurge, the flawed Craftsman of Plato who made a mess of it. Christ disagreed saying the universe was made well but an enemy has sowed cockle into the wheat. Satan as the Demiurge?

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The Cosmic Onion's avatar

Lugh, careful not to mash Plato, Christ, and Sunday School into one stew—Plato’s Demiurge was a clumsy craftsman, the Gnostics later exposed him as a counterfeit god puffed up on stolen authority, and Christ’s parable of wheat and tares points instead to sabotage of a good field, not a bad builder—different threads, and when you tangle them into “Satan as Demiurge” you flatten what’s really a layered ontology into church-sermon dualism.

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Lugh's avatar

Christ believed in evil. If you deny that, you might as well deny Christ's existence wholesale.

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The Cosmic Onion's avatar

I don’t deny the Christ—far from it. What I deny is the flattening of His words into church-dualism. Christ spoke of sabotage in a good field, not a bumbling demiurge building garbage from the start. Evil shows up as intrusion, counterfeit seed, parasite energy slipped in at night. The Source itself remains whole.

So yes, Christ knew evil—but He framed it as weeds among wheat, not as a second god competing with the Father. The difference matters, because if you make evil co-equal with the Source, you hand it more reality than it deserves.

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The Cosmic Onion's avatar

Those Zionist Clowns are fu*king CRAZY

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Lugh's avatar

No, they're fucking CANNY. They've all but taken over America, right?

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The Cosmic Onion's avatar

In case you had not noticed, they have taken over the entire Western World, Central Banking, the Fed Magik Money Banking, Medical Mafia, Rockefeller Education, Media, Hollywood, pretty much every damn thing... and better not mention any of it or you are anti-Semite... Hell on earth is what we got right now. Canny sociopaths. MFs

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Lugh's avatar

Some (like Sheila) take refuge in the Jesuit theory, always big in Britain. Generations of gifted writers contributed the Black Legends of the Church. Anything, ANYTHING to avoid confronting their own programming about the Jews and how wonderful they are.

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SheilaB's avatar

I never ever ever said 'the Jews' were wonderful. Stop making shit up, toadie. The Jesuits and the Jews are inextricably mixed up, but the end game is a satanic counterfeit church, based in Rome.

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The Cosmic Onion's avatar

hahaha... avoiding reality is the name of the game... Try this one on for size... see if it fits: https://cosmiconion.substack.com/p/the-jesuit-whistleblower

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Jim Harmon's avatar

Whadda buncha shit.

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The Cosmic Onion's avatar

Imagine a country that does all this: kills your president, steals your nuclear secrets, bombs your warship, does 9/11, runs a child sex trafficking blackmail ring, assassinates Charlie Kirk. Now imagine your Congress works for them. If you can imagine all this, you are an anti-Semite. Naughty you.

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Paul Scott's avatar

Well put. Clear and sure . I wish your channel Cosmic Onion, would allow non-paid subscribers to write comments.

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The Cosmic Onion's avatar

Well Paul, I used to allow all to reply to essays, then I got popular, with thousands of subscribers, and morons telling me stupid shit... so now I do most only paid comments, more serious folk. And if you cannot afford the $5 a month then I will comp you a month or two. Deal?

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Paul Scott's avatar

Intense and strong writing >quite frightening >Consider the possibility of a false flag. The venous blood rush is massively excessive to the normal jugular 10cm flow. The upward hand and arm movement of Charlie looks contrived. Once CNS black out occurs, all movement is in collapse mode.. Erika Kirk seemed overprepared for the entire event. I have never seen anyone so apparently sch

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They’re arguing about puppets while the stage is still hiding the puppeteer. Most folks mistake the props for the play — blood, gestures, timing — and they forget there’s an entire script-writing field called the Ontology that actually composes what looks “real.” The main problem ain’t the trick; it’s believing the trick is the whole world.

When you peel that away you see the real conflict: consciousness vs the parasite narrative that wants everyone hypnotized by “issues of the day.” Calling something a false flag is a reflex — useful sometimes — but it’s still drama if you never learn to read the score. Learn the score. Read the field. Don’t get lost in the stagecraft.

And for the wolves who want to shout the loudest: keep some mercy. Accusation without clarity feeds the sulfur crowd. Point out the oddities, sure — but anchor it to the bigger map: Supreme Consciousness, the Ontology, and the work of waking people to what really composes reality.

Awooo — RIB

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Donna Wilson's avatar

Powerful writing, Cosmic Onion! Well said!

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The Cosmic Onion's avatar

Thank you Donna... tis a war for planet earth, I do what I can.

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Donna Wilson's avatar

Keep writing, C.O., you turn a colorful phrase! :-D

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The Cosmic Onion's avatar

I will write until I leave this avatar body. Thanks Donna

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Chickie Galore's avatar

Beautifully stated! I couldn't agree more. not to mention it would take a DOJ that would actually prosecute someone.

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The Cosmic Onion's avatar

Chickie, I do believe all those swamp creatures are in the Big Club that Carlen talked about... left, right, blue, read... one big club. Motto: Rules for thee, but not for me.

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Chickie Galore's avatar

Agreed. Kabuki Theatre or a Roman Circus. I cannot discern which!

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Kevin's avatar

Well Stated. And only Too True.

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Griswold's avatar

Charlie Kirk tried to show the left could be reasoned with.

In the end, the left finally Proved Him Wrong.

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J. Gan.'s avatar

That, is a rather dimwitted view. The research and reporting of George Webb runs much deeper in who the killers really are. The rooftop guy, has little to nothing to do with this assassination. Everything happened at close range. The wound on Mr. Kirk betrays the high powered rifle, disgruntled gay 22 year old ROTC sniper story.

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Eckbach's avatar

What does the autopsy show? Oh, wait...what autopsy? Never mind a 30-06 round would splatter his soft tissue all over his surrounding "security." Who done it?

"We have our man...move along now."https://www.unz.com/runz/zionist-israel-as-the-assassination-nation/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj4fbfGFxpg

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Cankerpuss's avatar

Yep. I shoot my own 30.06 regularly and the round destroys everything it exits.

Kirk fell to the left after the bullet exited his neck.

Utah authorities seem to have ended their investigation.

Where was the slug found? Crickets.

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Daithi's avatar

If you can believe the doctor who examined him in hospital, the bullet never exited. He claims that his neck of steel stopped it - as reported by the Daily Mail. Deer and moose are wild animals. A moose especially is huge, tough, and very well muscled. They travel for miles through heavy brush and dense woods. I have shot a moose with a 7mm rifle and I know the damage it does. Is the doctor being truthful?

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Ben's avatar

Unless it was a glancing blow that artery is very close to the surface.

Center of mass you got a huge mess but a glancing blow that hits just the side of the neck cuts the artery and skips off into oblivion.

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wkenn's avatar

Just pointing out if he was wearing body armor under his tee shirt it was not bulky. Maybe Level II. If, a big if, IIIA would be bulkier.

With the above in mind neither will stop a rifle round, they are designed for handgun calibers.

If, a big if, 30.06 was used ( no info exists to confirm caliber) it would easily penetrate any body armor possibly in use based on the pre-incident videos currently available .

Lots of questions. Paucity of answers.

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Ringmaster's avatar

Do they make body armor thin enough so that the outline of someone’s nipple is visible through a white shirt, like Kirk’s was?

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Ben's avatar

Yep level 4 minimum to stop that caliber and it would have still hammered him off the stool or chair he was sitting on.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

https://www.youtube.com/live/czVBmqZP6Ss?t=910s

Candace Owens has a theory and she isn't being quiet about it. Hope she survives.

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Bradley Lewis's avatar

Candace will be fine, and she'll continue to play her part until the orchestrators decide it's time for new players.

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Alzaebo's avatar

It's called frontrunning - get a story out there so it can be discredited, and thus tarring the target who mentioned it by association. War by sound bites.

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SheilaB's avatar

And while the war's on over the CK story, people aren't looking at the Epstein issue or mega-data centres and the deepening of the control grid. How convenient.

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Night owl's avatar

Ol' Candace is making a lot of high-powered enemies.

May she be well protected.

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Bradley Lewis's avatar

Pretty emotionally laden response, Dude. And that's exactly the point of this event-- keep everyone arguing at each other whether from different camps or within similar ones. Clearly the official narrative is garbage, but that's what will "go down in history." These events are always falsified to some degree if not entirely-- we're being played.

She's a smart lady for sure, but she certainly has a role to play as a major influencer/figure on the right.

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Lugh's avatar

One of Charlie's last videos was about the Virgin Mary and how she could be a role model for young women. This guy had to go or they were going to have a hugely popular, anti-Zionist, traditional Catholic convert on their hands.

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Ben's avatar

As if the Catholics have not been playing games with governments for 1200 years.

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SheilaB's avatar

Exactly. See below - or above, or wherever my comment ends up.

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Alzaebo's avatar

Why, thank you, Lugh. Here I wanted to give you shiite for saying women are less than men - everyone alive owes a woman who wrestled with Death himself that they might take their first breath.

As Conan says, the gods will not remember if the fighters were good, or bad, or what they fought for - only that they fought alone.

You and I cannot carry a child, nor can we feed it - and that 88 hour work week of tedium for years is no small sacrifice either. All the society we build is but a support structure for the mothers and the children they bring us.

A Norwegian with 7 little towheads said, "They ask me how a man can walk about with a smile on his face all day. Of course I am smiling! I have seven little elves in my house!"

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Lugh's avatar

Koran 4: 35-36

Men are the protectors and maintainers of women because Allah has made one of them excel over the other, and because they spend out of their possessions to support them.

Righteous women are obedient and guard the rights of men in their absence under Allah's protection.

As for women of whom you fear rebellion, admonish them, and remain apart from them in beds, and beat them.

Then if they obey you, do not seek ways to harm them.

Allah is Exalted, Great.

If you fear a breach between the two, appoint an arbitrator from his people and an arbitrator from her people.

If they both want to set things right, Allah will bring about reconciliation between them.

Allah knows all, is well aware of everything.

Lugh: Much of this is at the fountain head of our own classical traditions from Greece and Rome, in terms of general belief, isolating women, and corporal discipline. On the other hand, our Northern European traditions were more lenient, without espousing equality of course. I'd lean in this direction of course. Our first line of defense is well brought up women who love to call other women out.

The dichotomy is seen in Greece itself. Old Athenians were of Mediterranean stock and isolated their women. The at least partially Aryan Dorians of Sparta and allied cities didn't isolate their women and allowed them the freedom of the gymnasium.

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SheilaB's avatar

That's the point, as I explained. They made his voice 100 times louder by killing him (if indeed he's dead - doesn't matter one way or the other for the desired outcome). The psyop is to lead you to the Roman theocracy. Good luck with discernment. You will need it.

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Liber8or's avatar

Sometimes I think George Webb is a "limited hangout." But he made some interesting points. Webb seems to think shooter Tyler Robinson is gonna walk free. Robinson was awfully arrogant (not worried) at his arraignment. Time will tell.

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Skenny's avatar

How did Webb immediately obtain the autopsy results, even before an autopsy was done? Just curious.

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J. Gan.'s avatar

There is no autopsy report yet nor any ballistics reports. Be patient. We can pick that apart when and if it is shared publicly but do not count on that.

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Skenny's avatar

My point precisely. How does Webb have all the details?

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J. Gan.'s avatar

In a real investigation, every single person in attendance would have been detained, had their ID and photo taken and metadata from their phone copied, as they were ALL eyewitnesses with images of the shooter, the signallers, the old man patsy, the long haired cheering man, audio info on shot origin. Webb does not have all the details, but how many investigative journalists have spent time at the shooting site or asked questions on the ground in Utah? Dougway Proving ground is out there.

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wkenn's avatar

“how many investigative journalists have spent time at the shooting site…”

You’re referring to the rapidly dismantled crime scene?

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Paul Scott's avatar

Yes. Have yoy condsidered the military drones which were flying close and have face and eye recognition and deadly accuracy? What chance a false flag? The Jugular venous flow was massive beyond the normal flow of 12cm/second. You. will have noticed that Erika's performance was so perfect as to be strange and possibly staged.

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Lugh's avatar

No, their reaction to his assassination shows Griswold is correct. The technics are important but don't lose all other considerations because of them. The Left thinks that it is behind it and it is thrilled.

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Bill Bradford's avatar

Let's not try so hard to prove Charlie Kirk wrong! OK, Griswold? I know what you mean, but....

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Kevin's avatar

Sadly Yes.

As it's been said, " You cannot Reason with a Demon".

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Jora's avatar

Except the kid was a closeted right wing man.

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Ben's avatar

Not even close he was living with a gay lover about to go trans.

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Jora's avatar

He sounds like an average closeted republican. The Grinder crashed during RNC last year.

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Night owl's avatar

I'm not part of the binary political party thing, but why do so many gays claim everyone is closeted?

I mean, rather than make you seem sharp, it actually makes you look a bit desperate and ashamed.

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Ben's avatar
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While there might be someone like that say Carl DeMaio or thge foot tapping one who liked bathroom stalls most Republicans are to tightly wound to be queer and living with a transitioning man to a fake women would be far beyond what they would be willing to do unlike say an Obama or DEMOCRAT.

Keep pushing that false narrative devoid of fact and reality.

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Alzaebo's avatar

Note how the psyop is designed to discredit the young Fuentes Right (the "groypers"), the now obsolete Woke Left albatross, and the MAGA Right (the tradcon family).

Karlyn Borysenko, who has gone "behind the wire" for years, says the "messages" evidence is concocted by someone who is not actually Transtifa - and that the ultra-Woke kiddies are their own thing now, no longer directly funded by government actors such as Soros, USAID, or the CCP. This gal is doing yeoman's work.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=7p0qR3v5pQg&si=Al3IiMdViJ-9WiJw

In other words, akin to small criminal gangs trying to prove themselves, vying to be hired by the big players as useful - and the ultimate in distancing and untraceable plausible denability.

All the State has to do is crack open the door, and something useful will fall out - especially if it's being given suggestive whispers online, which is how trans and furries are cultivated. (Synchronized biaural beats to a subliminal soundtrack and imagery, embedded in porn anchors, a kind of hypnosis.)

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Jora's avatar

Enjoy your eco chamber.

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Ben's avatar

An obvious attempt to say opinion as fact and then this person projects their own problems off on me.

HaHa hilarious.

Prove me wrong the pervert MAJORITY IS clearly on the DEMOCRAT side.

Have you chopped the nuts off your kid yet and pumped him up with estrogen?

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jim's avatar

Thanks for pointing out the Tina Peters case Jim. She stuck her neck out at 64 years of age when she could’ve rode off into a peaceful and generous government pension retirement. She gives meaning to “Home of the Brave”. (Her son died young as a navy seal.)

Judge Barrett said that he was imprisoning Peters immediately for 9 years because “prison is where we send folks who are a danger to all of us.” Think about it. What a …!

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Jeff Cook-Coyle's avatar

Sounds like a Presidential Medal of Freedom winner. A danger to Our Democracy.

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Alzaebo's avatar

Jeez. We are going to need a whole lot of new statues to replace the ones they tore down. Yes, thank you James, and thank you commenters.

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Sideburn's avatar

Jena Griswold is a “political buffoon at best.”

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Dutchmn007's avatar

You want to see the sordid company that Adam Schiff keeps? Look up his chief financier & best buddy Ed Buck, a homosexual & a perverted murderer who’s now serving 30yrs for murdering male prostitutes in West Hollywood.

That’s all you need know about the caliber of Adam Schiff.

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MarshaLouise's avatar

Then there’s Mark Warner, a bit of a creep as well.

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John Schrauth's avatar

We must not fail to mention asshat extraordinaire Congressman Daniel Goldman, the very definition of a congenital liar.

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Letsrock's avatar

EXACTLY! And why isn't he in jail for that alone???? Which leads us to Anthony Bourdain's death. He didn't commit suicide. He was however, witness to the Schiff atrocities.

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Skenny's avatar

While the woke mid-wits on social media and the MSM have been either celebrating or trying to spin Charlie's death, those responsible for and dependent on getting votes in upcoming elections (like the DNC and many of the politicians themselves) have been somewhat "lower key." They are sensing disaster, with Charlie's assassination serving to galvanize conservative support.

Tyler Robinson's crime was not a positive political calculation. "They have no idea the fire they ignited."

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Coalburned's avatar

His death will also flip a ton of Democrat-lites and independents.

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wkenn's avatar

A sizable, in my opinion, portion of the population has been waiting for the 'perp walks' of those who have assaulted and otherwise abused their positions in America. America is an ideal, physically appearing as a bundle of states on a map, inhabited by real people. The sum of these parts chose to partake of the ideal. Along came the grifters and power abusers to manipulate the ideal, fashioning it into something different from its Founding principles which give 'life' to the ideal. Patience appears to have worn quite thin. Apparently, the grifters and abusers, relishing living their lives as the purveyors of the woke ideals which are contrary to the America ideal, have yet to grasp the message.

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Occam's avatar

We need to see punishment of the perpetrators. Real punishment.

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Michael Starr's avatar

We're now 8 full months into Trump 2 - exactly 1/6 of the way through his second term. And still not a single arrest. I'm left to wonder, why not? Why the hell not?

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JohnAZ's avatar

One reason Michael, is the fact that the same judiciary that has tried to clobber Trump and is hampering everything we are discussing here is going to preside over any prosecution of the Leftist slime in DC. The cases must be meticulous, and well documented, taking thousands of lawyer hours to develop. Pushing them without “proof” will make the effort worthless and give the Leftist judiciary even more weapons.

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Lugh's avatar

That's not how change happens, John. An expert in knots dared to Alexander the Great to untie his know. Alexander wasn't such a fool. He took out his sword and cut it. You don't play to your enemy's strengths.

The Germans didn't dare attack the France's Maginot line. They just flanked it by going thru Belgium. We're not going to beat them playing their System game within the System that they control.

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JohnAZ's avatar

Agreed, but how does Trump go around the obstacles that are in his way. He can’t even get a budget or a CR through the Senate.

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Night owl's avatar

Clearly the answer is to keep telling us quaxxines are good, Warp Speed responsible for ending Convid, ending free speech, and working hand-in-hand with Palantir technocrats to bring about the Davos Great Reset.

5D chess!

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Skenny's avatar

Grand juries were supposedly being convened months ago......

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JohnAZ's avatar

Where? NYC? DC? Boston? SF? LA? I will be hard to put together a no left grand jury. It just aggravates the system.

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Skenny's avatar

Florida and the Midwest were mentioned.

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JohnAZ's avatar

This is where the DOJ needs to concentrate then, but the population centers are Blue.

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Thomas Madden's avatar

Those arrests have never happened, and they never will. But, rest assured, Kunstler will gleefully tell us all, yet again, on Monday morning, that we are in "Days of Thunder" and the arrests are about to happen, real soon, fer sure Man! Trust the Plan! It's all a crock, designed to distract Trump supporters. I saw through the ruse several years ago. "Secret Grand Juries" "Sealed Indictments" "Military Tribunals". . . massive lies.

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Lugh's avatar

Yes, gradual means non-existent in this case. The rules of Counter-Revolution are not the same as those for Revolution. Their corruption was slow and secret. Our reaction must be swift and open.

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Te Burt's avatar

Requests to become a chapter of TPUSA has reached over 100,000. If that isn't the youth of this Republic crying out for truth and a mechanism by which to proclaim it, I don't know what is. The pendulum is swinging back -- with a great many pushing to make it swing back faster. It can -- and likely will - hit the opposite extreme at some point in the distant. But we are in the Kali Dwarpra with earth rising above the galactic plane. The energy from the galactic center, with our solar system traveling at 17,000 mps on the third arm of the galaxy (who decided it was the 'third arm'?) is pushing humanity toward greater intelligence and insight. It just hasn't quite manifested yet. Y'all keep pushing that pendulum!

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Suzie's avatar

Check this out from yesterday:

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1968844020609695965

WOW! 😳

The army is assembling and to the enemy, it is a dreadful sight

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Jeff Cook-Coyle's avatar

Charlie Kirk was scheduled to speak at Colorado State University in Fort Collins yesterday. It was to have been his next event. The day before, and without very good publicity, the university decided that the best way to provide security was at the football stadium. What you see are the folks filing in.

They filled the lower stands and into the upper deck of one side of the stadium. 10,000 folks were there at the Charlie Kirk vigil. With almost no publicity.

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Te Burt's avatar

Thank you! Thank you! for that link. I've pushed it on. And I notice everyone is respectful. Not like the usual stadium noise. I constantly repost any videos that show people are rising up against evil and standing for the good - for those who don't see how many of us there really are! It's happening in France and UK, but the MSM won't air it here.

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Tony Lauria's avatar

Clif High?

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Te Burt's avatar

He gave me the idea. Love that guy!

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Alzaebo's avatar

Shout out to Tony - you had mentioned Tommy Robinson, and yes, we know.

He's pushing Advance featuring Ben Habib, reached out to Lubna, and has repeatedly made a point about growing up in very diverse Luton.

That intractable knot cannot be unraveled. I do see Tommy as trying to smooth the way to a middle path, along with that sellout Farange.

As long as we get something out of it, and we did with the Rally, then I'll take any help we can get. Sadly, it is a morsel of relief between the beatings, but the conditioning won't stop, nor will the steerage.

Tommy was today's Bill Buckley - his job was to discredit the BNP, just as Buckley's was to discredit the Birchers, but at least he doesn't have a secret taste for leather fetish. And, he's not a clown like that ridiculous larper Richard Spencer, who destroyed the Alt-Right.

I say he has evolved, as well, and is of good intent. It must be managed, the masters aren't going away, and as always, the Whites must try to make the best of it.

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Tony Lauria's avatar

Sorry for being so unaware but what did Farage do to be called a sellout? It's not the first time I've read this.

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Lugh's avatar

Onward Christian soldiers. Before you know it, we'll be in Iran. Are things really falling apart or falling into place? If anti-Semitism becomes a crime, you'll know the answer. It was a capital crime in Communist Russia.

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Alzaebo's avatar

What I realized, is that the Vision is much larger - not only a Eretz Ysrael, but an Israeli Empire.

A regional hegemon to be sure - that's why they took out the Shah before he could reassert historic Persian cultural hegemony to eclipse the Semitic advance - but now, as per their design of the UN, a colonial empire mimicking the Empires they brought down in WW1 and 2.

That is, an empire along the British lines using Mackinder theory - disruption of neighboring regions with colonial satrapies.

Ukraine, Argentina, Cyprus, the Levant, the Western Cape of South Africa -

along with the USA building new bases in Romania (the Black Sea), Armenia (for Russia's INSTC corridor through Iran), on the Thai/Cambodian border along with riots in Indonesia (ASEAN) and Nepal (India-China detente).

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Lugh's avatar

Patagonia to be near the next frontier of Antarctica.

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wkenn's avatar

When Jackie Kennedy arrived back in DC still wearing the pink dress, she told her brother-in-law Bobby it was so the people (this would be the American people) could see what "they" did.

Erika Kirk, early on in her statement said "The evildoers responsible for my husband’s assassination have no idea what they’ve done."

Note in both cases the use of the plural regarding the perpetrators.

The story we are being fed so far is filled with massive holes and inconsistencies. Director Patel made reference to something like 20 people being investigated. He did not elaborate.

Until proven otherwise, Tyler Robinson is, at minimum, the latest in a long line of patsies. It remains to be seen how deep this goes, and if, when reaching those depths, how much 'intervention' is applied to thwart the search for truth.

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Suzie's avatar

While he’s at it, I’d like hear about the investigation into Matthew Crooks who shot at Trump?

Where’d that go?

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Lugh's avatar

They never told us what really happened at the Las Vegas massacre. They explain it by saying they don't want to give mass murderers any post-mortem glory. I think they're covering up for an Agenda.

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wkenn's avatar

We’re part of an extremely lengthy line waiting for the info. Conveniently cremated, which I’m calling destruction of evidence.

I’m still struggling to find what part of the 7/13 incident went according to established procedure

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Letsrock's avatar

All evidence of CK crime scene is or has been destroyed.

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Letsrock's avatar

And why Trump himself shows no concern?

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Paul B. Cohen's avatar

The proof that T. Robinson murdered Charlie Kirk is overwhelming. The motive has also been laid bare. Calling Robinson a “patsy” is missing not only the bullseye, but the target altogether.

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J. Gan.'s avatar

Another sayanim here, with "overwhelming proof". Sorry, Paul, I call bullshit. The wound alone defeats the high powered rifle narrative 1000%. Go google images of what a 30.06 rifle does to a deer. Anyone who hunts would know this instantly and the MSM refuses to even come close to offering any investigative journalism, they are forbidden. Not one ballistics expert has appeared on any leftist or conservative news station for comments. There is no ballistics report or autopsy report *yet*, and those two pieces are the final determination on direction the shot or shots came from.

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Ben's avatar

Center of mass hit yep big mess but a glancing blow that just severs the artery not so much.

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J. Gan.'s avatar

JFK was hit by a high powered rifle. Go watch the Zapruder film. Look at the JFK autopsy photos.

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

Hardly anyone believes those autopsy photos haven't been doctored.

While we're at it, if you think Oswald fired the fatal shot, why did JFK move "back and to the left"? And don't try the jet effect answer. We know that ONLY works with melons, not heads with skulls in them.

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J. Gan.'s avatar

I do not accept any of the Warren commission findings, same as the 9-11 commission findings. All asking the wrong questions to the wrong people in the wrong way. The later House select committee did a slightly better job but still fell short. The first shot that hit JFK was a throat shot, Dr Charles Crenshaw wrote about this in his own book, being one of the attending doctors at Parkland. JFK's hands can be seen going to his throat after the limo passes the Stemmens Freeway sign and the umbrella man.

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wkenn's avatar

I'd consider buying a Carcarno is if it came with a supply of 'magic bullets".

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

A .300 Winmag is as powerful as 30.06, and the countersniper in Butler, PA supposedly put a .300 winmag bullet through Crooks left upper lip which went out the back of his head just behind his right ear.

And yet there was no gore downstream from his head, and only a slow stream of blood coming from him. It doesn't make sense.

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J. Gan.'s avatar

And a white screen behind him, which a shot from in front (from a high powered rifle) would have caused a large spray of blood behind Charlie and a wound the size of a coffee can. Close range, small bullet, fired from an exotic, easily concealed weapon. There are videos showing this much. He felt out of that chair he in, to his left side.

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wkenn's avatar

"a white screen behind him, which a shot from in front (from a high powered rifle) would have caused a large spray of blood behind Charlie" this is so basic.

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Paul B. Cohen's avatar

It’s easy to find a thousand reasons to not believe the obvious reality that doesn’t serve the narrative pleasing to your loser mentality. Like shooting imaginary fish in an imaginary barrel. Have at it, J. Gan.

I’m extremely well paid, by the way. Speaking the truth to enemies of the Truth is its own reward.

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Lugh's avatar

Paul wants things kept simple: Zombie Golem soldiers marching towards Iran chanting, Charlie, Charlie.

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Tony Lauria's avatar

Get a clue.

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wkenn's avatar

John Leake put up a Substack a few days ago on the topic of, among other items, the wound . His interviewed source , with some expertise as related by John Leake, listed numerous aspects.

The Substack is part of a shared effort, try searching under Courageous Discourse or Focal Points.

A lot of comment, more questions than answers

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SheilaB's avatar

"The motive has also been laid bare. "

The motive has been put in front of your eyes by the Mockingbird media is what you mean. It ticks all the boxes, as it's meant to. The official narrative has more holes in it than 3 kilos of emmental.

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Paul B. Cohen's avatar

Yes, of course. Every law enforcement and government servant is in on the fix with the fragmented media - that’s about as cynically unrealistic as you can get.

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SheilaB's avatar

Too funny. Keep drinking the Kool-Aid. Or selling it, whatever.

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Night owl's avatar

Call her a "conspiracy theorist" next.

That will surely end the debate.

LOL.

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Letsrock's avatar

No it's not if you dig deeper. For starters the gun they say he used would have done serious more damage and the bullet trajectory doesn't coincide. You probably buy the Oswald story too then.

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Bradley Lewis's avatar

LOL

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Bradley Lewis's avatar

Did you not find it rather bizarre that Erika Kirk showed no signs of grief or shock, or, from my perspective, any real signs of genuine emotion in terms of being present at her own husband's brutal killing and spoke at length two days later?

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Sally's avatar

Every report I’ve read states Erika & kids were not there with him. During her address, she constantly dabbed her eyes & nose of tears. Strength & defiance were also evident.

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Bradley Lewis's avatar

Actually, the initial report that most probably could attest here is that she was there, as was her son, but for the story to change is pretty typical. Regardless, that you see that as genuine emotion as absolutely astounding to me. She dabbed herself occasionally-- what tears? No shock, no grief, no real emotion at all-- perhaps she's just a cold person, but I would think a grieving widow with two little kids would never go on air with such a strange and calculated presentation to the public, with no immediate support present. It was one of the worst performances I've ever seen in one of these operations in my life.

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SheilaB's avatar

MOBA - Make Ops Believable Again. We deserve better psyops. Or maybe we don't.

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Bradley Lewis's avatar

Actually, this site isn't really the place where people are most likely to dig into the event. My initial comment was to try to merely propose the question and open the conversation a bit. There are a TON of people not buying into this narrative and pointing out all sorts of problems-- especially regarding the alleged shooter and with regards to the wound, type of gun & bullet, no bullet to be found, and much more beyond that. But I agree, this one is kind of a joke as long as one is willing to be open and curious-- not even challenging really.

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SheilaB's avatar

I've been on this site for over 15 years. What I find these days is that the people who saw through rigged ballots and saw through covid just can't see through something if it's done by what they perceive as their side (which isn't their side - it's just pretending to be until they get the digital manacles on).

Don't know if you listen to Matt Ehret - I'm just half an hour into this discussion and I have already learned that the patsy's 'Uncle Mike' is mixed up with the Azovs! You couldn't make this stuff up!

https://matthewehret.substack.com/p/breaking-history-ep-117-charlie-kirk

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Alzaebo's avatar

Wait, I heard somebody say in one clip how his little girl tried to run up there to see if Daddy was alright? The commenters made a big deal of it, so that's what I remember.

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SheilaB's avatar

I don't remember that. I wonder if you are thinking of the comment Erika K. made during her 'speech' when she said the little girl (who's about 2 or thereabouts - Gigi iirc) had run to her mum (in the house, afterwards, as I understood) asking where daddy was. What the fuss was about was that Erika said 'she ran into *our* arms, then corrected herself and said *my* arms'. I partly agree it was a very odd 'mistake' to make; on the other hand, maybe it isn't. Never been in that position, whether fake or real!

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

People show grief differently. When my mom died at age 95, I could NOT read from the Bible at her memorial service because I started crying. I had to hand it someone else.

Why? I sure don't know. I really wasn't all that broken up.

PEOPLE SHOW GRIEF DIFFERENTLY.

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Bradley Lewis's avatar

Your example only provides support to what I'm saying. You weren't broken up but the emotion overcame you. Nah, there was no grief there at all. That was lack of grief, lack of any depth of emotion or seemingly genuine emotion in my book. Brutal murder and she must go online 2 days after in the midst of what I would assume to be the biggest tragedy in her life? With no one else to help her on camera in case she did breakdown, e.g. And she went on for more than 15 minutes! A performance, and a pretty bad one at that.

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SheilaB's avatar

It was the deadpan-giggle-deadpan delivery that got me. I've never seen anyone speak like that 2 days after losing a spouse in a brutal attack. And then she has herself filmed draped over the coffin (well the bottom half- just his hands, which, bizarrely for a man of 6'5", were the same size as hers). Who would let anyone film that? And she'd taken the trouble to put on massive false nails and two knuckle-duster rings (one of which someone said was masonic). CK was a freemason, I gather.

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Paul B. Cohen's avatar

Off topic and irrelevant.

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Bradley Lewis's avatar

Says you. Relevant if you want to look deeper.

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Paul B. Cohen's avatar

See my most recent answer to J. Gan. Same applies to you.

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Bradley Lewis's avatar

Oh sure, I'll go hunting for that.. lol Closed-minds & parachutes.

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Paul B. Cohen's avatar

It’s easy to find a thousand reasons to not believe the obvious reality that doesn’t serve the narrative pleasing to your loser mentality. Like shooting imaginary fish in an imaginary barrel. Have at it, J. Gan.

I’m extremely well paid, by the way. Speaking the truth to enemies of the Truth is its own reward.

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Night owl's avatar

It is bizarre, but at the level Kirk was operating at, one finds lots of grifters. I have nothing against Kirk as I didn't know him, but the vibe he put out was similar.

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Alzaebo's avatar

We call them gatekeepers, keeping the discourse within the boundaries acceptable to our betters. I was very dismissive of him as a mere Party functionary and ballot seeker.

Nonetheless, he was a very decent chap, sharp at his job, with no bad intent. For a white George Floyd, we could not have found a better representative of our people - as long as they keep including Iryna Zarutska in the murals, I'd say we have a one-two punch that can't be beat.

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wkenn's avatar

Perspective.

The optics are enough to keep others in their lanes.

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Night owl's avatar

Yes, just going on gut feeling and his general presentation, I would put Kirk into the gatekeeper category. He was an influencer, and no one who questions things at a deep level (or who questions the "wrong" things, at least) ever gets to his position. He was like a more advanced version of Jack Posobiec.

Perhaps one might achieve Max-Blumenthal level or maybe Whitney Webb, but who the fuck are they in Normieville?

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Lugh's avatar

Are you implying that he's not really dead? You may be right. On the other hand, countless women marry men they have no real interest in or attraction to. Their friends are all getting married and they don't want to be left behind. And/or they want kids and the man will be a good provider. They don't mind the fame of being with a famous man either.

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Bradley Lewis's avatar

I am suggesting it is certainly a possibility, and her very strange tribute video showing no depth of emotion, not to mention the strange casket video with the hands, lend thoughts toward suspicion. This all just reeks of a problem-reaction-solution operation which is pretty much the same playbook over and over with such events. Could have been a 'marriage of convenience' of sorts, but once you have two little kids in the picture there would be some deeper emotional connection regardless of that. Ask yourself why she would even go before the public like that, alone in front of the camera, two days after supposedly witnessing him being murdered? It's just way off from normal behavior-- all of it-- and to me was designed to manipulate their already emotional followers and to further stir things up.

If you haven't watched that or just want to dig deeper and take a look at some video analysis I think this link is food for thought: https://miri.substack.com/p/his-story-her-story-and-the-truth?r=kuj0w&triedRedirect=true

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Letsrock's avatar

We've been told that Erika Kirk and her children were seated in front of Charlie and witnessed everything. To date there are no pics, videos or any other evidence they were seated there. I'm just repeating what I heard today.

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wkenn's avatar

We've been told a few hours in a Cessna qualifies one to pilot a commercial airliner with pinpoint accuracy.

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Dave's avatar
Sep 19Edited

Excellent piece but the words are “The Power Of Christ Compels You!” In Jesus name Satan and his demons must flee. I believe we are going to be hearing those words more and more as we exorcise this land. We pray Charlie’s work and murder will never be in vain and the revival of faith in Jesus our Lord and Savior that it has lit, spreads throughout the generations to come in Jesus name we pray Amen. ✝️

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Lugh's avatar

So many of them have given up in regards to the Jews. "They don't like it"! Of course they don't like it. So is the answer to become Judaizers like Trump's advisor, Pastor Paula?

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Alzaebo's avatar

Or Suzie Wiles, Trump's handler and gatekeeper - and former campaign manager for Bibi Netanyahu.

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PaxAlto's avatar

I see their simmering hostility every day during my morning walks in the park, particularly among 30-something white women (I'm 60-something white male). Whenever we cross paths along the trail they sometimes give me dirty looks or block my path. Some have large, ill-tempered dogs, which they gleefully allow to harass me even after I tell them to back off. Thankfully there are plenty of other, older friendly faces along path to neutralize the such unpleasant encounters.

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Shadow Boomer's avatar

Same with me. White male. 64. I get hostile stares in public and at work. Work particularly has gotten bad. Look forward to retirement…at some point. I grew up in suburban L. A around Latino communities and I was subjected to Latino hostility as far back as 1972, so it’s not exactly anything new (almost got knifed after riding my bike a little to far into El Monte, among other stories) but the tension is really bad now. I have three young grand-nephews and I hope they’re being taught to respect themselves and defend themselves.

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Lugh's avatar

That cheap labor has many hidden costs. We learned nothing from Black slavery, inviting another hostile nation to abide within our borders.

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J. Fast's avatar

Why is it that Latinos always prefer knives and machetes? Does this go back to Aztec genetics?

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Bradley Lewis's avatar

Divide and conquer is always very effective, and frankly, this culture has been going down hill for as long as I've been an adult as far as I'm concerned and I'm probably only 5-10 years younger than you.

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Bradley Lewis's avatar

I think you two live in totally different areas.... lol.

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Dave's avatar
Sep 19Edited

I would recommend everyone listen to Tuckers latest podcast episode America after Charlie Kirk. Far more profound than a simple tribute. It should be required civics training for all young Americans. The whole point of Charlie sitting face to face was to highlight how ideas themselves must be defended. And that those ideas labeled “hateful” and that speech labeled “hateful” therefore by the left without exception could not stand against logic and reason or the reality of the truth involved. During the open Tucker gives the most compelling argument why labeling speech hateful in order to shut down debate on ideas that cannot be defended is an affront to each others basic inherent humanity itself. Speech is simply ideas out loud. If you cannot speak because it hurts others delusions or falsehoods that is then an assault on our inherent humanity which is made in the image of God. I’ve never heard it put so well. And the rest of the episode is just as interesting as well. Guests include Scott Adams of Dilbert fame who is a trained hypnotist explaining the intricacies of the mass formation psychosis so apparent on the left. All Well worth your time and contemplation. The final guest is an Orthodox Christian priest. Say what you will about Tucker. He has no fear in expressing the difficult controversial and profound. Tucker’s best work to date imho. Godspeed Charlie. We will not let you down. May we never forget your sacrifice and may we it inspire generations to come in Jesus name we pray. ✝️

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Lugh's avatar

Charlie wasn't for unity. He knew these demons had to be converted. Did he realize that most couldn't or wouldn't be? And that they had to be fought?

MTG: I can find no common ground with the Democrats, especially after the gleeful reaction to Charlie's death and calls for my death as well.

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Julie Harris's avatar

Mr Kunstler you are amazing! Please keep telling us how it really is!

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No name here's avatar

Everyone is talking about "civil war" these days, but it's bullshit. All we need to do to win is shove all this shit back in the left's face.

Want to bring girlboss identity politics into the workplace? Ask senior executives to state the business justification, specific, measurable, and achievable goals (they claim to love shit like SMART) and accountability if they are not met. Demand that the shareholders, customers, and employees are fully aware of your objectives and that they are plainly documented. Not soft "DEI" stuff. Actual objectives.

Want more illegal immigrants? Great. Flood blue areas with them, and don't allow them in the census.

Love "historically marginalized peoples" in your Sociology department? Great. Demand that half of grants be allocated towards placing Section 8 housing in the venerable, Ivy covered Shitlib Hall.

Totes love minorities and the vax? Great. Blame white libs for the cancer and heart disease afflicted on minorities (who can't afford to quit their jobs) due to the mandates. No justice, no peace, say their names, all that shit. Let's see if hyper-racialized, Manichean politics is still super fun for Suzy Yard Sign when her "Race to Dinner" friend gets brained at a stoplight like what they did to the cops.

Shove it all back in their faces. All of it. When they beg for mercy, do as they do - take it as a sign of weakness and subject them to even more of it.

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MarshaLouise's avatar

I appreciate what you say, but prayer is powerful, and “Revenge is mine, saith the Lord”.

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No name here's avatar

The implication here is that if you continue to stick to your principles they might eventually learn something? I'd ask how that's working out, but I already know.

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John Schrauth's avatar

Exactly. Jesus eventually had to trash the currency exchange ripping off devout foreign Jews coming to pay the Temple Tax because sometimes words don't work with those intent on exploiting others. Believe me, these guys making $174,000 a year in Congress and becoming multimillionaires at the same time involves a ton of exploitation of us and the "system."

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Alzaebo's avatar

That was a legal edict by the Lord Ham forbidding vendetta amongst the tribes.

Kindly shove off with the slave mentality, please. Appeasement is for women.

Our people are dying, our right to existence is not negotiable.

No name, I love every part of it. As Nick Fuentes says, we cannot reason with them, only defeat them - politically.

It is not about vigilanteism. It is about taking over the government and making them do vigilanteism for you.

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JohnAZ's avatar

Civil war? Of what sort?

I can see a guerilla type war inside the cities as the best scenario. I believe it will be led by the criminals aligned with the cartels, AKA globalists trying to tear down the USA. Money will pour in to escalate the war. As a sidebar, the increase of joblessness stemming from AI will add folks onto the rebel side. The leaders of these urban rebellions will be members of today’s Deep State especially the Ult-Left. A big question is how the Democrats will co-ordinate the rebellions at a national level. There is no geographic divide like CW1.

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No name here's avatar

It would probably be something like David Betz describes when discussing the UK (which appears to be closer to a breaking point than the US).

Dirty war first - assassinations like we saw last week, small armed gangs, generally escalating political violence... Followed by attacks on blue city infrastructure - power grids and the like... Followed by retreats into ethnic enclaves... Followed by intra-ethnic violence.

...If it were to happen here. Which I don't think it will. Because Trump is in the WH, we'll see dismantling of leftist patronage networks, identification of groups like Antifa as terrorist orgs (they are), removal of grants from academics, release of accurate stats on political violence by identification (did you know the guy in Portland back in 2020 who screamed "we have a trumper here" then shot an innocent man twice was not counted as left-wing political violence?), stuff like that.

In addition, of course, to any problems we as private citizens can inflict on the political left, and the general loss of credibility of the orgs they inhabit - particularly since Covid.

I don't think it has to go hot here. I do think there needs to be a serious reckoning though. The shit they have inflicted on innocent people - using their own tax dollars - is absolutely unacceptable - and there should be NO doubt about that going forward.

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JohnAZ's avatar

We are seeing the effects of urban guerrilla war already. The reaction to ICE, the bullshit rhetoric coming out of Blue mouths, the obvious hatred. Watch out for guerrilla war though, it will be financed by the likes of Soros et al (who just contributed millions to Newsom’s redistricting plan). As things deteriorate in the cities, the thugs will move out into the suburbs then exurbs.

Do not dismiss this force. Vietnam and Afghanistan guerrillas beat the premier military force on the planet.

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No name here's avatar

I'm armed as many of my neighbors are. That's the case in most neighborhoods. There's a reason that (with a few exceptions, like the dude with the pink shirt and AR), most of this stuff remained in commercial districts in 2020.

It's also worth remembering that ~80% of the people mouthing off about Charlie Kirk on social media are middle and upper middle class women with big fee fees and a few estrogen and SSRI soaked brain cells.

ARs aside, do you really think many of the people running around howling "speech is violence" have ever been hit by a 2x4? Or even punched in the nose?

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JohnAZ's avatar

Good points all.

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Alzaebo's avatar

Trump going after Soros? Now we're cooking with gas.

Come to think of it, I've been hit with a lot of things, but I've never been hit with a 2x4. Always a chance for new experiences!

(Nothing can match aerial bombardment leaving instant 30 foot craters around you as you race through the desert alongside the Mormon scientist you just stole a car with. Shrapnel stitching up the sides of the car, rocking on two wheels, mud flying, white-knuckle keeling. Then, down the side of the mountain at a 45 degree angle, fighting the wheel to keep it from rolling...coming to a sudden hard brake in a cloud of dust, realizing you were two feet away from going off a canyon cliff.

Woops, now that I am reminiscing, there are a few more...an unfortunate number more, some of them as surreal as a fever dream, and rather a bit less comfortable.)

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Vegan Shark's avatar

It will be immensely satisfying to watch corrupt and woke politicians go down for the count. But vengeance on individuals may not lead to lasting reform.

I will appreciate the view through the Overton Window when I see a serious, widespread movement for secession or the break-up of a US that is so divided there's no chance of reconciliation.

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Night owl's avatar

There is no reform coming, IMO.

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Robert's avatar

What you say is impossible because our urban centers were not designed to withstand low-level combat. The utilities are unprotected and would be shut down on day one, making the urban center uninhabitable and since urban centers are the linchpin of the democratic party, such a conflict will never happen.

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JohnAZ's avatar

Antifa is the start, financed by Soros and his buddies. The crime groups are already contesting for control as well as the Muslim groups. The conflict may not be hot, at first anyway, but what will happen if Trump decides to not put up with their Bs any more. A huge question, when the time comes for Americans to confront Americans, who will the Pentagon side with? Another big question, what % of the problem makers in the city consider themselves Americans?

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Philanthropy Poketwanus's avatar

I’ll believe it when I see it. Well written and hopeful though. Miracles are possible. Govern-ment is the dis-ease. The jabs are the dis-ease. The money is the debt. The food is the poison. The entertainment is the spell. Etc. resist.

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Ripple's avatar

Anyone who thinks inserting a hyphen between the two syllables of the word "disease" conveys some sort of profound meaning can be dismissed out of hand.

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Philanthropy Poketwanus's avatar

Feel free to dis-miss anyone you wish. Our forefathers died for your privilege to do so but only goD gave you the birthright to free will and choice. When you are ready you could understand.

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Alzaebo's avatar

I'd rather dismiss dismissive pickers-of-nits.

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