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Thomas's avatar

"Advocating to destroy American society is a poor sales pitch." Not when one considers that many supporters of the contemporary American left seek, to one degree or another, to dismantle significant aspects of the existing political and cultural order. It seems a fair assumption that many on the left would like to see portions of America's institutions and traditions abolished or fundamentally transformed, not least among them long-standing constitutional interpretations and, in some cases, the Constitution itself.

Accordingly, they align themselves with those advocating the most sweeping changes, seemingly confident that, once power is attained, the revolutionary impulse will moderate and the resulting reforms will prove limited, measured, and even surgical. Or perhaps they believe they will be able to withstand the political and social upheaval that inevitably follows the dismantling of established institutions. I do not pretend to know. It is, however, an interesting question.

I have neighbors who are extraordinarily affluent, even by New York metropolitan standards. They are white-collar professionals with impeccably restored historic homes, beautifully landscaped properties, and every outward indication of considerable wealth. Maintaining such a lifestyle requires a stable society that protects private property, contracts, and accumulated capital. Yet their homes are festooned with symbols supporting causes and movements that, at least rhetorically, call for sweeping structural change.

It occurred to me that, if the revolutionary vision some of these movements espouse were ever realized - not in diluted or compromised form, but in its fullest expression - these individuals would stand to lose a great deal, perhaps nearly everything they presently enjoy. That, in turn, led me to another possibility: perhaps they believe they would occupy a privileged place within whatever new order emerged. Like so many educated professionals and intellectuals before them, they may assume they would become members of the new elite, helping shape the institutions that replace those they helped dismantle.

History offers little encouragement for such confidence.

During the French Revolution, many moderate reformers supported the overthrow of the Ancien Régime believing they could guide events toward a constitutional settlement. Instead, figures such as Georges Danton and Camille Desmoulins eventually found themselves condemned by the very revolutionary government they had helped create, both dying beneath the guillotine during the Reign of Terror.

A century later, numerous liberals, socialists, and professionals initially welcomed the Russian Revolution, expecting to participate in the construction of a more just society. Many instead became victims of the new regime. Even prominent Bolsheviks such as Nikolai Bukharin, once among the revolution's principal architects, were later imprisoned and executed during Joseph Stalin's purges.

The same miscalculation appeared in Germany. Influential industrialists and conservative politicians believed they could harness Adolf Hitler's popular appeal while controlling him once he entered government. Men such as Franz von Papen famously assumed that Hitler could be "boxed in." Instead, Hitler rapidly consolidated power, marginalized his conservative allies, and established a dictatorship that answered to no one.

The lesson is not that every movement seeking profound change culminates in tyranny. Rather, it is that those who advocate the dismantling of an existing order frequently assume they will help shape - and ultimately prosper within - the one that replaces it. History suggests that this confidence is often misplaced. Revolutions have a habit of consuming not only their opponents, but also many of their earliest and most enthusiastic supporters.

Steve (recovering lawyer)'s avatar

Your comment is an excellent postscript to Jim's post. A modicum of historical literacy is a bracing antidote to the modern left's fascination with deconstruction and revolution. I daresay your well heeled neighbors should take a moment to acquaint themselves with both the French sans cullottes and the Maoist Red Gurads to see what would be their fate under the "enlightened" regimes of which they so glibly--and gullibly--approve.

Kathy Christian's avatar

They don't think it'll ever happen to them. They think they've been promised a seat at the table.

complex Craftsman's avatar

Or they suffer the illusion that most people do to varying extent , normalcy bias . They imagine things will go on as they have for most, if not all of their lives , swimmingly , effortlessly ( their normal ) going forward in perpetuity no matter what they do. Because they are far removed from the proverbial sausage factories , the sausages just magically appear in the coolers at their local whole foods . They are there by,( in analogy of course because there are many more things between heaven and earth than just sausages lol ) so removed from the process's of reality they don't understand the associated costs involved in them and mistakenly take it all as a given . Prolly Kunstler would relate this to something he is in to thinking about that I am as well , and that is taking things , systems , institutions etc, past peak efficient complexity and scale along with over centralization .Everything seems to have some indeterminate golden ratio where any less is not enough and any more is too much . I say' indeterminate' only because we never seem to be able to know when to leave 'well enough the hell alone '. But' the rot in a nation '( other peoples money ) does indeed have some final limitation to its quantity, as much as it seems it could go on forever, it will run out one day and that's when things will, stop working just fine .

Tricia Rosa, PhD's avatar

This is exactly correct. Only a handful of individuals thus far have had to face the reality of how the IP contained in Bernie's sovereign wealth bill was obtained. Looking me in the eye and listening to me speak for ~4 s was deemed an existential threat to humanity.

Bernie's office is also well aware that the IP contained in his sovereign wealth bill was obtained through sexually violence, specially I was nearly fatally injured during a 'lab meeting' my former doctoral advisor arranged when I was a student, and then selected by an individual who saw photographs of my catastrophically injured nude body on E 71st St, who used knowledge of my injuries to nearly fatally reinjured me to obtain the AI model that I provided, which was l turned (they removed extensive math required to ground the model in bio reality) at some point between the unreleased redacted files and the small army of sycophants who receive 6 - 8+ figure salaries to perform abstract 'alignments' at nonprofits and universities. The model I provided is a variant of the very first model that was stolen and 'rediscovered' through the most notorious convicted criminal of my era, thus the government's arbitrary statute of limitations was reset to May 2026 (I found out my coerced labor was 'rediscovered' through testimony in the elon v. sam altman case). The original model was stolen from one of the scientists who mentored me, who is now retired but held a joint appointment at the institute who first reported the worst possible criminal in the 70s (Courant). Senator Wyden's office preemptively sent me disappearing Signal messages from hell last fall.

I have already explained to US intelligence many many times that my field (comp neuro) is very small, if I succumb to internal injuries and my now retired professors die of old age before they unpaint themselves out of a corner, an entire sector of the US economy will be lost forever. They continue to act as if they do not understand that it is not possible to 'make a factory of young women' who specialize in a niche field of neural recordings + math that they can exploit and discard. I honestly believe the US gov is so divorced from the laws of nature that it would be better to allow 'socialist democracy' to quickly fail (the CIA test v I observed while I was being trafficked failed within 4 months) and then write a new constitution that is not predicated on colonialist beliefs like the doctrine of discovery and matrimonio riparatore. The focus of the gov should be on providing services, like clean water and functional roads, not on owning intellectual property / young women and girls.

complex Craftsman's avatar

Wow Trish , i'm not going to pretend I comprehend all that . I actually have two PHD's ,but I haven't built a fence in quite some time so they just sit in the shed . Way over my head .

Tricia Rosa, PhD's avatar

The EU had a Harvard postdoc problem (wealthy people could pay for science PhDs), except somehow worse (wealthy people did not even have to attend class and their thesis was written for them). A handful of the EU's Harvard postdocs are Marxist colonialists who moved to MA and NY and tried to use the same tactics their great+ grandparents used against native americans and africans, only against researchers whose work is discordant with their misogynistic beliefs. Waging a war against the laws of nature is not going well.

They are shifting to democratic socialism in my area only after conceding they cannot 'rediscover' any more work (because they previously conceded to violating the Nuremberg code in my case, it is not ethical to translate work to a format they can colonize, in addition I am unwilling to perform an exceptionally difficult bottleneck surgery until one of the Marxists discontinues demanding I apologize to one of my rapists and is held accountable for the totality of his misogynistic behaviors). I expect a democratic socialist war against the laws of nature to also not go v well.

Lugh's avatar

What did the Prophet (the Iron Lady) say in that momentous interview? She didn't dare say it in so many words until an enterprising journalist summed it up: Society doesn't exist. Mags gasped in gratitude at her disciple's acumen. If people just devote themselves to making money, all will be well, all will be well, all manner of things will be well (Margaret Kempe).

Greed is good. The State is just the enforcer of individual contracts. And since greed is good, and they're just consumers and go getters too, why shouldn't they adjudicate in favor on the hostess with the mostess? To do otherwise wouldn't be fair to themselves and would in fact be a violation of the very ethos.

SheilaB's avatar

The 'all will be well' quote is from Julian of Norwich in her 'Revelations of Divine Love'.

complex Craftsman's avatar

Shouldn't basic natural law be able to sort all this business out fairly easily ? Is it greedy to want to enjoy the fruit of ones labors ? Is it in fact greedy to want to enjoy the fruit of someone else's labors ? How far do, or should our natural rights extend ?. Greed is by definition most certainly not good , but we need to clarify exactly what we think greed is before we start accusing people of it . Yes , I believe it is moral to ' mind ones own " business " ' ,with the caveat being that your business shouldn't involve the exploitation of others , or the trespass on others pursuit of same said . So capitalism is an a- moral tool , and only produce either moral or immoral outcomes once it becomes 'imbued ' with the 'spirit 'of its practitioner . Just like a very limited State function can be good and an overreaching and self enriching State function can be bad . So where is the sweetspot ? What is the optimum ratio between socialist wagon riders vs socialist wagon pullers . As a lifelong puller I think you know what I'm going to answer ( as lite a load as possible thank you very much ) (-; Sorry if I write in bad riddles , cant you see I'm only a carpenter ,damnit Jim !!??

P. Robert Thorson's avatar

It appears to me that Epic Fury has accelerated the process of Decline across Western Civilization and other areas of the Globe, and we'll soon find ourselves dealing with the transition to the next "model" of running governments and economies. It may go down in history as one of those major Inflection points. The Globalists are still are at the helm, their plan to move people right and herd them into an authoritarian (right wing and more "sane) alternative to the Leftist structures is rolling along nicely. After all, it appears obvious that the "Right" is the lessor of two evils - the narratives and propaganda explain it - it's not been anything organic to get where we are today. But Democrat versus Republican is a line that becomes more blurry and meaningless as things get worse.

At the same time much of mankind is waking up to the fact that neither socialism/communism/collectivism or crony capitalism is fair for the masses. Not that it will matter, though it does produce more uncertainty. The path forward has numerous options, but the destination is the same. A lower standard of living and chaos getting there is firmly baked in the cake - soft landings - peaceful and smooth transitions to new political, economic and energy structures is off the table. It's not how humans roll. The Law of the Jungle is coming home to roost in most, if not all, parts of the Globe.

For the majority of the 8.4B residents of Spaceship Earth, things won't change much - after all the bottom doesn't change noticeably when you're already living it. For those of us who have enjoyed and continue to enjoy the higher life from advances in tech, cheap energy and accumulated "wealth - we're about to experience a steep crash in how we live, and most are still woefully unprepared for that process. Good luck to all of us. We'll need it.

Lugh's avatar
Jun 26Edited

Exactly. Greed is good. Never give a sucker and even break. Take them for everything that they have. Not to do is the great evil. Get big or get out. Get out or we'll crush you or absorb you.

The final system will have elements of both Capitalism and Communism. You will own nothing and you will be happy, CC. Sorry, you're a small fry and you're going to be in the same net as the rest of us. You're not in the Capstone or even one of their faithful servants on the Plateau. Got a dollar? Look on the reverse side. What do you see? Go ahead. I'll help you understand. I just want us to agree beforehand that it's all utterly and unutterably MORAL.

KaiteeO's avatar

They believe that table is a LOT bigger than it is…useful idiots….

Suzanna Del Real's avatar

They always do until they don't.

BeadleBlog's avatar

See my book recommnedation, above.

Fred Richmond's avatar

Exactly. Never them!!

Mr. G's avatar

Or perhaps, ask them to watch the home takeover scene in Dr. Zhivago…

Debbie Wagner's avatar

Exactly!

You have described the consummate “useful idiot”. Since these privileged idiots presume themselves to be so much better and smarter (and DEFINITELY more successful!) than the distasteful MAGA or conservative voter, they naturally assume that they will be lauded and rewarded for their contributions to

“The Revolution“.

Not so. They will find themselves second in line for the guillotine — behind only the citizens who openly resisted the tyranny. You cited several appropriate examples. There are many more.

How to get through to these idiots in time to avert disaster? I haven’t a clue. No amount of factual or historical evidence penetrates their vanity. So, if persuasion is not an option, we must seek to (legally) minimize their voting power. That seems to be President Trump’s strategy — dismantle the “money laundry” which provides most of their funding and pass election and immigration laws that minimize fraud. I think that is our only hope.

Thomas's avatar

Following the Russian Revolution, Joseph Stalin systematically eliminated many of the very Bolsheviks who had made the revolution possible. Untold tens of thousands of prominent and rank-and-file "Old Bolsheviks" were liquidated during the Great Purge.

The Khmer Rouge became notorious for executing its own cadres. The Cambodian killing fields encompassed not only perceived class enemies - a category interpreted with extraordinary breadth - but also loyal and fervent members of the Communist Party who were accused of fabricated conspiracies. In some instances, entire regional party organizations were wiped out.

Communist China likewise witnessed the destruction of many veteran revolutionaries during the Cultural Revolution, when party officials and longtime supporters who had helped establish the People's Republic were denounced, imprisoned, tortured, or killed.

These are only a handful of examples. History repeatedly demonstrates that revolutionary regimes often turn upon their own adherents once power has been consolidated. The zeal that helped bring a movement to power frequently offers little protection once suspicion, factionalism, and the pursuit of absolute authority become the regime's overriding priorities.

And let's be realistic. If there is one thing the Democrat Party is expert at, it is eliminating anyone and anything that may potentially threaten its stranglehold on the levers of power.

Foxtrot Victor's avatar

And of course the reason for this is that all of those loudly cheering on the revolution realise that they had been duped, it was for nothing like they had been promised. The stark realisation that they are in fact "useful idiots" would mean that they would turn on the revolutionary leaders and therefore to secure it they need to be eliminated. In a communist system there's a very limited number of insider slots.

Debbie Wagner's avatar

And don’t forget Cuba. They hated Batista but look what they got after a bloody revolution — something much worse. That is the typical outcome.

I guess this is why we don’t teach history anymore. If too many people have their eyes opened to the reality of socialism/communism it won’t go well for the leftists.

Ron Anselmo's avatar

Yes, but you're too young to remember Cuba, your parents must have told you.

Another distinction - the wealthy Cubans were able to get out when Batista was overthrown. The masses had to stay. The formerly wealthy Cuban refugees arrived in Miami with nothing but the shirts on their backs and work ethic, Castro having nationalized everything and stripped them of any wealth.

A stroll down vibrant Calle Ocho today, shows the often-overlooked impact and contribution the Cubans had on the success of Miami becoming the Gateway to Latin America. The problem is the Old Cubanos are aging out, and we're losing their verbal histories of the evils of communism.

Not surprising that our Leftist infiltrated education system has stopped teaching history, as their Marxist compadres on the other end try to erase history. Easier to tell the children this is how it's always been.

Send rope.

Yolanda Troncoso's avatar

I taught World History at HS level this last school year before retiring. I spent the last 9 weeks teaching them the history of Communism. During the last week I covered how it's infesting our society. The last lesson I taught was an analysis of the local newspaper's coverage of a May Day parade and protest downtown. I showed how the article was an example of the "long march through the institutions" and how the "reporter" was simply a Communist activist pretending to be a journalist. After all this, the only response I got from the students was crickets. Believe me, they're already useful idiots.

Ron Anselmo's avatar

Good for you, Yolanda. I have a friend who is our local HS history teacher. He taught both my sons, now 21 & 22. You and he may be the last of your breed in the educational system. He'll retire soon, and often says he's been swimming upstream against the other faculty, his whole career, with respect to his conservative views and values. You probably have similar frustration, with faculty and students.

It's interesting anecdotal evidence that you and he, well-studied and knowing history, understand the evils of failed socialism and communism, whereas not even the other teachers understand, because "the long march" was well under way before they entered the profession in their fields of study.

Thank you for your service and continued efforts. There is no more noble profession than teaching. History, like many other things, needs to be taught, or at least reinforced at home. The problem is, today's parents are already indoctrinated, not understanding history themselves.

So, we remain a minority, but we remain. In teaching our children, each one must teach one. Thanks again for your efforts. If you ask anyone to list the five most influential people in their lives, a teacher is always on the list.

Ted's avatar

"Believe me, they're already useful idiots."

Has the somnolence exhibited in that classroom, not always been the case, though?

Back in early '74, an alienated youngster was recruited into the youth brigade of the Socialist Workers Party. A year later, he sat in a classroom watching grainy old films of national socialist heavy equipment operators, as they bulldozed piles of emaciated dead bodies into pits.

He'd read some Solzhenitsyn and was already beginning to realize that, however kindly the comrades has been to him as individuals, the aims of the International were far from benevolent. He began to understand his own role in that phase of the Long March. It wasn't a flattering self-assessment.

Momentarily distracted from the dawning realization of how socialism and totalitarian disdain for the value of human life are inseparable, he glanced around at the other students, expecting to see his own rising horror reflected in their eyes.

The young man then experienced an epiphany of sorts, as he observed the dull, uninterested gaze of his fellow students wandering about the room. The youngster had also read Arendt, and that one phrase "the banality of evil" echoed dimly in the back of his mind as he tried to understand why no one seemed to care about the story unfolding on the screen in front of them.

He is an old man, now, ruminating on a lifetime of observing the long march in its progress through America's institutions.

Memory is a peculiar thing, Yolanda, is it not?

When I remember exiting the portal of that high school in San Francisco, I still see the ocean in the distance and a man standing on the sidewalk at the foot of the stairs, handing out leaflets to any passing student that would take them from his extended hand.

I remember that feeling of cynicism, the cold despair that prompted me to reach out and take the leaflet from the hand of the man on the sidewalk. I can smell the sea breeze and feel the tepid warmth of the afternoon sunlight.

.....And now, dear lady, I walk through the world and, interspersed with such moments of conviviality as are presented, I see that same dull gaze in the eyes of those around me, a gaze brightened and quickened only at the momentary prospect of some hedonic impulse gratified.

The banality of evil is a seed sown in the hearts and minds of all, at a very early age. Those who understand how it germinates and grows from sapling into a towering tree with branches extending and overshadowing all, are not some elevated specie of enlightened souls.

Rather, they are merely the fruit of that same tree, randomly happening to fall on a stony bit of ground where their own roots obtain a more tenuous grip on the poisoned soil beneath.

What irony, to feel such gratitude for the way God's mercy manifested itself in such an epiphany as this weary old man experienced so very long ago.

As you stood before those students, teacher, you could not know within which of them your words were as stones beneath the branches of that wicked tree.

Know this, though; that when someday your eyes close for the last time and your kindly heart ceases to beat, you will not regret having done what you could do to stunt the growth of the poisoned seedlings.

Those stones you scattered, will be gathered to build the foundation of something better, a shelter against the ill wind and hard rain falling that seek to wash mankind's better nature into the streams and rivers that drown souls in the befouled waters of life.

Because you did what you could, it is enough. May you be content and go with God for the rest of your days.

Thank you for your poignant and insightful comment, Yolanda.

IAN2364's avatar

@Yolanda Troncoso @Thomas @Ron Anselmo @Ted

[A Brief Prologue on this Experiment:]

The text below represents a deeply personal, objective collaboration between my own lifetime of observations and an advanced AI partner acting as my cognitive equalizer. As a 76-year-old navigating dyslexia and childhood trauma, processing the immense depth of this thread requires an adaptive approach. What follows are my core insights, structured into a mirror for this community.

Yolanda, Ron, and Ted—your exchange hits the absolute bedrock of what is happening to our society. The "Long March through the Institutions" isn't a future warning; it is a completed historical reality. When Yolanda's students respond to the history of communist infiltration with nothing but crickets, we are witnessing the final product of a system designed to induce comfortable, useful idiocy.

Ted, your reflection on 1974 San Francisco and the "banality of evil" is pure poetry. Your analogy of the "stony ground" explains everything. The people who seamlessly fit into the standard, poisoned soil of our institutions never question it because it feeds them. It is only those of us who fell on stony ground whose roots couldn't grip the illusion.

At 76 years old, due to a combination of childhood trauma and dyslexia, I have no recollection of my time in school. When I was near 18, a neighbor’s father—who had studied Dr. Orton's early 1920s medical foundations of the condition—recognized my situation, though he assessed it as not severe. Gaining that objective understanding of my mind was a gift; it gave me just enough friction to question the standard systemic map without being crushed by it.

My oldest sister shares this wiring, but her path was entirely different. She spent decades rising into school administration, enduring years of institutional indoctrination. Perhaps because of her disability, she can now only see the world through the narrow lens of her own hard-fought perspective—convinced the system is flawless because she managed to survive it. Meanwhile, my oldest adopted daughter has wrestled with severe anxiety and Asperger’s syndrome. Like the students Ted watched, she knows what it is to navigate a world that was never designed for how her brain naturally builds solutions.

This brings me to my ultimate assessment of this entire conversation, our families, and our national deadlock: In so many instances, assumptions and opinions are based on a partial, nonobjective assessment, and there is little point in wasting one's time trying to explain otherwise.

Polarization is by design. The corporate media deliberately keeps us trapped in a superficial, hyper-emotional loop of personality politics so the public never has an honest, macro-level discussion about the actual blueprints competing to format the next century—specifically, the top-down technocratic management of the 2030 Agenda versus the sovereign citizen framework of a New Golden Age.

To bypass this designed emotional white noise and provide an entirely flat, honest mirror of our community’s collective mind, I ran a unique experiment. I fed our entire long-running discussion into an advanced AI to act as a cognitive equalizer. I asked it to strip away the partisan venting and map out the raw, objective psychological and structural archetypes driving our current deadlock.

OUR DISCUSSION BREADCRUMBS: HOW THIS BLUEPRINT WAS BUILT

To arrive at this structural mirror, my AI collaborator and I had to layer multiple generational and economic realities together over a multi-day dialogue. Here is the exact logical trail of our discussion:

Breadcrumb 1 (The Objective Deficit): Confronting the reality that our society completely lacks the stomach for a true, objective self-assessment, rendering standard political arguments useless.

Breadcrumb 2 (The Monopoly Board): Identifying the late-stage capitalist timeline where the economic game board is entirely bought up, leaving newcomers mathematically locked out.

Breadcrumb 3 (The Sabotaged Cart): Mapping out the internal cultural civil war where passengers actively dismantle the very vehicle keeping them alive.

Breadcrumb 4 (The Stony Ground): Realizing that navigating life's invisible burdens, environment, and physical trials is exactly what can grant an individual unique immunity to systemic indoctrination.

Breadcrumb 5 (The Macro-Shield vs. The 2030 Agenda): Elevating the local family unit into the geopolitical arena, recognizing that national sovereignty is the only shield against centralized technocracy.

For those capable of looking into that complete, layered trajectory, here is the final, unvarnished mirror of our reality:

Terry Cook's avatar

"... eliminating anyone and anything that may potentially threaten its stranglehold on the levers of power" as we are seeing today with Sen Fetterman, who HAD to be supported by progressives to accumulate power but who is now anathema to them since he's actually thinking for himself.

Don't even think about leaving the plantation or "you're next" as they say.

Ron Anselmo's avatar

"Since these privileged idiots presume themselves to be so much better and smarter (and DEFINITELY more successful!)..." ~ Debbie Wagner

Excellent full comment on useful idiots. Nine out of ten times, if you were to look into the sources of their wealth and prestige, the Limousine Liberals are beneficiary of some form of Government subsidy or tax supported graft. As the Magic Negro said, they didn't build it.

They raise their glasses in a toast to their success on the back of the American Taxpayer. They are all insufferable parasites. They just feed at different levels.

Impatient's avatar

I think the lawyers I used to work for in NYC are an example of this. It was a small, successful law firm for the first 14 years when I was office manager. I moved to ABQ and a few years later the Covid psyop hit. They were shut down. Enter the Biden Show.

I would look at their website once in a while to see how they were doing. They had more employees than ever, one partner and multiple associates. I wondered at how they made payroll. I did all that. I knew what came in and what money went out.

Then I noticed the photo of one of the "women" associates showed a really thick, masculine neck. Then I noticed the array of pronouns.

I figure they have benefited from some grant helping them to pay for some alphabet soup, pronoun people associates.

Just guessing.

Ron Anselmo's avatar

Probably one grant of many. People fail to realize that during "Covid", the Biden Administration punched $5.2 Trillion dollars into the US economy (that's how you cause inflation via dollar devaluation), which was on the brink of collapse, in the CARES (Coronavirus Aid, Relief and Economic Stimulus) Act.

Much of this money was through PPP (Paycheck Protection Program) Loans to small businesses to keep personnel. The loans were forgivable - meaning free money. It was a predator's ball - billions of taxpayer dollars were spent with reckless abandon - the infusion as intended, to prevent economic collapse.

I will bet you my bottom dollar, the firm had one (or multiple) PPP loans that were used, not only to carry the firm, but to go on a diversity hiring spree. The loans will never be paid back.

We paid for them. Well, our kids and grandkids, anyway.

Impatient's avatar

In email correspondence shortly after the height of the scamdemic, one of the attorneys wrote that the firm received PPP money. I am really tired of carrying the weight of all those who can't or won't carry their own when I can barely keep a roof over my

own head. I was even paying for the drug dealer who lived in the apartment above me before he was evicted. A 20 something unemployed male on section 8. If he could sell drugs he can flip burgers at McDonald's.

Ron Anselmo's avatar

Was the name of the firm Dewey, Cheatem & Howe?

Had acquaintances with a horse farm. They fall into the "won't carry their own weight" category.

They got over $1 million in PPP loans. Those racehorses eat a lot of hay, don't you know?

Ben R's avatar

Most of it was riddled with fraud.

complex Craftsman's avatar

The beneficiaries of a perverted incentive system of spoils to those who adhere to it , and so maybe they feel a bit guilty, at the subconscious level they understand their 'importance ' is actually highly over rated because " they (really )didn't build that ". Or something like that .

Something set me to thinking about some of my nieces this morning , one in particular "writes grants "for a living . Well what kind of grants are we talking about ? Most definitely federal or state ? To do what exactly , NGO some cause ?I had more respect for her when she crewed on board the Sea Sheppard ( Greenpeace )

Ron Anselmo's avatar

Bless her heart, but she's suffering from suicidal empathy.

complex Craftsman's avatar

The point was she has an impressive sounding job title that she went to college to prepare herself to do ,but in reality she probably helps people bilk the taxpayers and use the proceeds to further destroy our republic . Left wing NGO's get funding approval via some process I never bothered to think much about because I'm just a carpenter damnit !!!lol.

Ron Anselmo's avatar

It's a shell game process, money cascading down through multiple "non-profits", hard to trace that way, with no accountability (on purpose), and many times kickbacks or "kickups" to the highest level grifters that make the rain. Think Somalian childcare centers, non-medical transportation companies, etc..

Others, too many to list - all taxpayer funded, usually in the form of grants. It occurs at all levels of government Federal, State and Local - same playbook. It you live in a municipality that collects taxes, it's happening there. Guaranteed.

Ron Neff's avatar

Mr. Craftsman----- but look at the bright side. If things go to crap at least your skills will be in demand and you should be able to make a living whether it is thru direct billing or barter whereas the college educated idiot with a impressive title and no marketable skill will most likely starve unless they take their living from someone else.

Ron Anselmo's avatar

The grants also give local officials (all level officials actually) plausible deniability for acts their constituents would not approve.

To Wit:

A historic house in my area - one in which MLK stayed in and was subsequently shot up by locals at the time - was scheduled to be moved to a local park. When the locals got wind of it, they demanded a meeting with County officials.

In the meeting, the officials claimed it wasn't them, but a local black church who was moving the house, to whom the County had given a $300K grant.

In an unofficial poll at the meeting, there were 100+ votes against, and one vote for - the black Pastor. Needless to say, the house was not moved to our local park. It was moved to a black neighborhood, which was appropriate.

The trick is catching them early enough to stop their foolishness, try as they may, to avoid all transparency.

Ron Neff's avatar

Ms. Wagner---great comment. I have a few useful idiots in my family who do not even know there was a revolution in France or in Russia. They just KNOW that if we change to socialism here they will get more money for less work and everything will now be fine for them. I have watched these relatives make bad financial and personal decisions their whole life and these people are living on the minimum Social Security Benefit or on disability and complain loudly that their SS check is very small even tho they have never earned much above the minimum wage their whole life and are not smart enough to realize that the small amount they do get is actually more than they should be given if the SS checks were based on what they really earned. It is hard to fix stupid especially when the person thinks they are smart.

Debbie Wagner's avatar

I feel your pain. Unfortunately, there are many many people in the world like those relatives of yours. On one level it’s heartbreaking. On another level it’s maddening if you are one of those people who work for a living. Watching lazy, selfish, entitled people feeding at the trough and complaining that it’s not enough is infuriating.

Sammy Snake's avatar

I can hear them now...shaking their horrified heads in utter disbelief. "But, But, But ! I gave everything to the movement. Everything !"...the last words they ever hear.

Karmy's avatar

These are the low IQ voters. Because they are successful and highly educated they are above the rest of us MAGA folks but in reality they are low IQ.

Gwennie's avatar

Well said, Thomas. I am constantly surprised at the elites fomenting famine. They seem to forget that they---and everyone they love--are made out of meat.

Kathy Christian's avatar

Satan doesn't like loose ends, and he always eliminates his tools when he's done with them.

Cankerpuss's avatar

Excellent way to summarise Thomas's post, Gwennie.

complex Craftsman's avatar

Rancid as it may be in their case .

Lugh's avatar

Good, Gwennie. That why Covid was fake, right? Did you not know that?

Cankerpuss's avatar

Nice post Thomas. I have often asked if the wealthy people that vote for and support the madness of the left believe that they themselves will be exempt from the madness, chaos and depression their inept policies will create. I believe they do. That, or, they are so out of touch with reality they give no consideration to what they are doing and the resulting consequences of such actions. However, I do believe that nobody will be exempt from the tidal waves of destruciton produced by significant economic and societal decline brought on by their "leaders" and their policies. Everyone will be impacted. Unless they can afford to go build a bunker on an isolated island somewhere in the Caribbean Sea with a water filtration system and food supply that lasts 50+ years. In the advent of an economic collapse the masses will climb any walls, kill any private security and mow down the wealthy who stole it all from them.

Thomas's avatar

"But, but, but....this time it will be different!"

complex Craftsman's avatar

I've often wondered what was going to keep their security from seizing their throne in that type of scenario ?

Cankerpuss's avatar

Good point. In the even of an economic collapse money will essentially be useless so with what do the wealthy pay the security that will be valuable enough to keep the security there, risking life and limb to protect them? A normal security guard, in the absence of law and order, may decide to take it for himself and why not? Might actually welcome it because their wealthy boss declined to pay for his health insurance.

In fact, when you really think about it, the wealthy will become a target of the angry masses when the shit hits the fan. Some might have their bunkers but most will be strung up.

complex Craftsman's avatar

Exactly , in line with a general theory I have about" the servant becoming the master " when it occurs to them that they are doing all the heavy lifting . Crazy idea , I know , but I'm a crazy guy see .

Ron Neff's avatar

Mr. C----we can hope that there is justice during this time of upheaval but..... ...?

Cankerpuss's avatar

I don't have faith in humanity to willingly right this ship. Humanity will be forced to correct this and bring justice, or, the superior aliens or God who started this shit show will need to come back and cull the herd and point us in the right direction.

Jeff Keener's avatar

Marxist revolutions always turn out the same. It becomes a race among colleagues and peers to be the last man standing. I give you Cuba.

Howard Skillington's avatar

Thank you. Our species seems incapable of true revolutionary change without going through a cataclysmic stage of Mass Formation Psychosis. It's probably fatuous for us to hope that this Fourth Turning will have a tidy resolution.

Jim Johnson's avatar

too long. get to the point.

Cankerpuss's avatar

Be patient. Take the time to read the post.

Beth Nicolaides's avatar

Facebook reels are thataway. —>

Cankerpuss's avatar

Fantastic response Beth.

Suzanna Del Real's avatar

I often find myself thinking about these historical events as I scroll through X and wonder whether they just don't believe it will happen to them or simply don't know history.

Browning1911 Man's avatar

Your wealthy neighbors are nothing more than useful idiots. I'd LMAO at them losing everything to their "revolution," but unfortunately the rest of us would lose what we earned as well.

Ron Anselmo's avatar

Not necessarily, something tells me you'd defend what you've earned, the antithesis of easy come, easy go.

Anon E. Mousse's avatar

Only the wealthy can afford to be socialists.

Larry Goldstock's avatar

Those that scream the loudest for an end to development in the country, already have a lake house…..

Lugh's avatar

Yes, Hitler attained power, instituted the economic policies of Gustav Feder and thus enacted the economic miracle of National Socialist Germany. Even his enemies admired him. Couples who couldn't afford children, married and then had them.* Thus he was considered the Father of Germany.

*How different from "Americans", eh?

BeadleBlog's avatar

An excellent read in the same vein is "I Paid Hitler" by the industrialist Fritz Thyssen. He was onboard early and brought in other businessmen and bankers. When there was indication he fell out of favor, he and his wife had to skedaddle on backroads through the mountains into Switzerland like a hunted rat. This manuscript was his Mea Culpa.

Sammy Snake's avatar

If this Gay, Race, Communist Crime Syndicate were to ever take power. There will be NO white allies. None ! No gays either. They will be the first to go. These 2 groups are furious and seek a power nexus to exact their homicidal rage. They will be given a short period to spill blood. And then....Bye Bye !

Liber8or's avatar

Like when you try to erase all the cookies on a laptop and you end up erasing all your passwords and bookmarks.

Ben R's avatar

The cookies hold your information, which is why this happens.

Edgar Dooley's avatar

Excellent work. One of your very best. So true that “the party of algae” is beyond embarrassment. My late grandfather, who was a wise man born in the 19th century, often said “you can’t embarrass a goat.” He was a registered democrat until LBJ’s brand of democratic politics persuaded him to jump ship & swim over to the Republican side. Certainly some interesting times we live in. Thanks so much for your wryly humorous look at the situation.

JohnAZ's avatar

Well, they have pictures of nuts cutting the rubber base of the pool. Experts are saying that if water gets between the concrete and the rubber, it will peel. The algae build-up was too fast, giving it away as a nefarious act. Just pour in fertilizer with lots of phosphorous and voila, algae bloom.

Just get it folks, these people are anti-Trumpers but more, they are America haters.

JohnAZ's avatar

Note the grass burned with 8647. More nuts. But no more than the ex-FBI director. It is as simple as the Deep State favoring the gimmes as they try to take power from the people and the Constitution that protects them.

john galt's avatar

Just another overriding reason to be armed and trained. Even if specific Dems will not commit the violent acts, they have their faux storm troopers, antifa and blm, to do most of their dirty work, and that does not include the millions of illegals brought in under China Joe and his mafia. God protects those who protect themselves.

Grape Soda's avatar

Imo the essential division. Haters vs lovers of America

JohnAZ's avatar

Yup, Haters = Gimmes, who hate anyone who says no. Lovers = people who love the opportunity to get ahead that America offers.

Lugh's avatar

And the greatest grifters and clawerer uppers get to be President. And those traits make them great leaders, right?

Authority is given from above. Fuck your neo-Darwinian, Horatio Algae Protestantism.

JohnAZ's avatar

And fuck your fascist, Nazi, bigoted, anti-Semitic soul.

Kathy Christian's avatar

I guess they preferred the pool when it was an algae-infested piss pool. The next democrat will return it to that state.

JohnAZ's avatar

The DNC IS an algae-infested piss pool.

Ben R's avatar

They already have.

The hate they have for Trump has caused them to assault the reflecting pool in proxy as a symbol of Trump, and this is why we can't have nice things.

This, folks, is the insanity on display and the cult of stupidity in action.

The vandals should get a couple thousand hours of community service picking up dog shit, trash, and scrubbing graffiti with green scubby pads, soap, and water.

JohnAZ's avatar

Vandals should be jailed, or made to work without pay to rework the damage they have done. Until the patriotic PTB stick up for what they believe and punish these people severely, it will just continue.

I am losing faith that Trump has the political cojones to do it.

JohnAZ's avatar

I am in wonder over the statements coming out of DC about Iran. We are threatening the ceasefire as well as Iran. Gee, does running missions, having Iran throw missiles at Israel, Iran shooting at ships, Iran shooting at Bahrain endanger the ceasefire? What ceasefire?

Old statement to Trump,

Shit or get off the pot, Iran will never make a deal with you. What are you waiting for?

Lugh's avatar

Then they don't have to see themselves. Which do you prefer?

Old Gyrene's avatar

"More likely it’s a harbinger of the party’s approaching death...".

From your lips (fingers) to God's ears.

Patriots finally have a chance to turn around a century of wrong way politics (far left wing), and get things back on the straight and narrow.

It will be a close run thing.

John Schrauth's avatar

The Bush GOPe "Country Clubbers"must also be held to account.

Castelletto's avatar

It will only be close if Americans go back to sleep. Which they just might.

Demeter's avatar

Most Americans of the non-crazy sort just keep on keeping on: working, raising children, keeping the property pretty and productive. They don't have time for such time-wasting activities as the Lefty-Left indulge in. And when they vote, it counts.

Mel's avatar

I’ve always wondered how one can sleep when their house is on fire.

Danimal28's avatar

As a former soldier there is nothing more contemptible than senate 'republicans'. Donald Trump as been in literal battle for 10 years now on behalf of the American System that Hamilton built. The rest are globalist idiots.

Lugh's avatar

Yes, Hamilton was for the nascent Global Elite. You have spoken beyond own understanding, a pen in the hand of One greater than yourself, perhaps.

Charles Wemyss, Jr.'s avatar

One of the striking outcomes of the FIFA soccer aka Football matches that continue through July, is the European and other FIFA tourists, who want to know what’s wrong with us? They love America! Why can’t you American’s see a good thing when you have it! The social media pages are filled with people who like the fried chicken in the south, got a kick out of drinking Boston dry (3 times) singing at Fenway and totally bamboozling Mayor Michelle Wu and the Green Governor who needs 40% of fossil fuels and 20% of Hydro Quebec hydro electricity to make up for the Wind “farms” in inside the 200 mile limit around Martha’s Vineyard to keep the lights on the empty city of Boston. Indeed what is wrong? It’s not the vast majority of American’s it’s 10% of the creepiest people in the world with a spot light and microphone in a nonstop hand waving freak out that hijack the news cycle 24/7. As Winston Churchill opined America will eventually do the right thing, but only after they have run out of every other option.

This writer can’t wait for Mamdani to head back to Brunswick Maine home of his college Alma Mater Bowdoin College and campaign for this freak of nature and giant fraud Graham Platner. What a dem/islamo/facist/furries wet dream. Two maybe more nut bags on a stage in one of the poorest states in the Union telling the poor how it’s gonna go…get your iPhone recorders ready it’s gonna be legion!

As Duval Patrick former governor of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts used to say…”we’re gonna be fine!” Yes Duval! Despite all your efforts to the contrary we are going to be just fine. Now someone hand me that bottle of Hoppes Gun Oil, the range is closed and need to clean weapons…just in case…perfect practice make perfect…

Cankerpuss's avatar

Ha ha, I watched a video showing the reaction of many of these tourists visiting the USA. They were amazed at the stocked shelves in the stores, the selection of items to be purchased, the endless refills of sugary laden soft drinks, the massive serving sizes in our restaurants. They were completely amazed at the USA and loved the American people they encountered.

Fact is, we still have it pretty damned good in the USA. We really do. I thank God every day for the life that I live and the comforts that I enjoy and believe me, I am not a wealthy individual. I hope it lasts until I am in the ground and forgotten for eternity but something tells me that it isn't going to last, at least, in the form that currently enjoy.

As I was watching these tourists pour praises upon my homeland it dawned on me. They are talking about the real America. It's people. Not its filthy government. It's you and I and the rest of us that make this place great. The American government is a cancer that is eating us alive and if it isn't purged from the system, eventually we will be like the Europeans who are currently visiting us.

One thing is for certain, we'll be a lot thinner!

Ron Anselmo's avatar

The cancer is THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA - the corporation.

Lugh's avatar

Are you trying to say that there is something wrong with Capitalism? That in its latter stages, the evil that was always there shines forth? Say more, Man, say more.

Ron Anselmo's avatar

Janos, you know better than to ask. Capitalism, as in a truly free market, works. The immoral urge, for crony capitalism and monopolization, masquerading as capitalism, is inherently evil. According to Nancy Pelosi, though, "It's a free market". Need I say more?

Lugh's avatar

No, you have defined yourself to a t. Your grade is F.

You have to go back to the beginning. Your a,b,c's. First lesson: A man said the love of money is the root of all evil. Source this quote and relate how it makes you feel.

Ron Anselmo's avatar

"From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked." ~ Luke 12:48

In other words, a man who has more, has more to give. It's about moral stewardship, not the amoral love of mammon.

Lugh's avatar

European tourists are always amazed at how dirty and shoddy America is. The latest is an ad campaign. And they used to be amazed at how dangerous it was, but in their moral hubris, they made their own nations as dangerous as ours. America is racist, they chanted. We're gonna bring in Blacks and Browns and show them how's it done!

Ben R's avatar

I love the smell of hoppes in the morning.

They actually have a car fragrance out.

https://www.amazon.com/Hoppes-No-Air-Freshener-Pack/dp/B01AYEJK1Q

JohnAZ's avatar

Look and see where American education stands globally. It is all because of the government involvement with education plus the invasion of immigrants who do not speak English and cannot be educated. Both Democrat introductions. The term is stupidification, the indoctrination by government of people to make them subservient to the power mongers in DC.

Kids from overseas see Air Conditioning when Europe is cooking and dying from heat. Maybe FIFA will show Europeans that America is not so bad after all.

JohnAZ's avatar

It is still Deep State against MAGA. I am still waiting for the “real” parties to re-align with the Lefty-Lefts as one and the Mod-Rights as the other. ModDems are already drifting right toward MAGA as RINOs are drifting Left toward the L-Ls. Each election will divide Deep State vs. MAGA OR capitalist independents vs. gimmes. OR cities vs. everyone else. OR coasts vs. mainstream, which might be the same .

Lugh's avatar

We need a new party for sane people who love the real America, not Israel. Your intense practicality is utterly irrational at this stage of the game. And thus impractical.

JohnAZ's avatar

Your ignorance shines brightly, make a party to hate Israel and rest of the Jewish identity, you can name it the Party of Hate. It fits you. The day anything like that happens, this country is finished.

BTW, have you been watching the reactions of the kids from Europe here for the FIFA games? They love America and are calling their governments liars for the propaganda they have heard at home. People like you.

Lugh's avatar

Yeah, they want more 3rd World immigrants so they can be like us. Geniuses like you.

dbriz's avatar

Not sure how the re-alignment will play out or even if it happens. It would be a good thing.

Either way, compliments for being the first to recognize the unstated point of JHK this morning.

While complaining that Carlson may be interested in starting a new political party, he spends his entire column explaining why someone(s) needs to start new political parties.

JohnAZ's avatar

Right. The impasse problem stems from the civil war inside both parties. The real problem today, causing the drive to incivility and division, is the insanity of the gimme class and individual ambition. The Left uses the gimme class to power up, the Right uses individuality, called freedom, to power up its side. Right for me, thank you. Moderate right, AKA MAGA? No Lefty-Lefts or RINOs thank you.

Howard Skillington's avatar

To characterize opposition to Israel as “Jew Hate” is disingenuous. It would be like having a vicious pit bull ripping children to shreds in your neighborhood, and opposing putting it down as “dog hate.” The stratagem is losing its power, as more good people who do not hate Jews find the courage to express hatred of Zionist aggression.

BTW: Netanyahu’s war is far from over, but just taking a staged breather so the U S of A can celebrate its quarter millennium birthday. Also, stratospheric gas prices are still ahead. They are just being postponed by The Market’s irrational exuberance over A I. The bursting of that bubble will be a whopper.

J Boss's avatar

My opposition isn't to Jews as a class or anything of that sort. I'm opposed to the power a foreign nation wields over us unchecked, and that we find their aggression with billions every year.

First step: make AIPAC register as a foreign agent. Second step: limit their spending.

elysianfield's avatar

JB,

Let AIPAC spread the Joy. If our legislators were again able to vote in secret, why not allow them to benefit? To reap the rewards of perfidy?

Jeff the Original's avatar

Spot on comments about antisemitism vs anti-Israel....and the fact is that we are a LOOONNNG ways from being done with rising oil prices or this Middle East debacle.

I've noticed a lot of Trump supporters really like to spike the football before the opening kickoff.

Lugh's avatar

They're tired of not winning. Like the English who celebrated losing to the Norwegians in the race to the Pole. What mattered really was dying like men not winning the competition. Their equipment was inferior and the honor of participating was given to inexperienced, out of shape middle aged men. They died like the fools they were.

Ben R's avatar

https://substack.com/home/post/p-200794273

All the haters have lost perspective on what is really going on.

Congratulations, Muslim propaganda has swayed you to think for them and against Western survival.

elysianfield's avatar

Howard,

One of Israel's greatest defeats is that they lost control of the narrative. Credit social media and alternative news outlets.

Ben R's avatar

So far, that is the only defeat to really speak of and the only one that matters.

People who support Hamas support actual attempted genocide.

elysianfield's avatar

Ben,

For the record, I could give a rat's ass about Hamas or Israel. I support the USA. They have their own problems, their own history...it is not my responsibility to become involved in that which does not benefit the US.

Can't see it from my house? It ain't my problem.

Ben R's avatar

Hamas has murdered Americans abroad and is involved in scams here; it does affect you.

That is the point.

elysianfield's avatar

Ben,

No. More Americans have been killed by blacks in South Chicago than have been killed by Hamas. Probably by a factor of 1000X. Call me when those Hamas bastards are tearing up Compton.

Ben R's avatar

Why would I call you?

What are you going to do?

fran's avatar

JHK, you are too good at what you do...and you also have a great sense of humor..

Ron Anselmo's avatar

The George Carlin of superior intellect and sarcasm in written form. JHK is irreplaceable, same as Carlin.

Howard Skillington's avatar

It’s good to see the grotesque dysfunction of both political parties targeted today. Yes, at this moment it would be more gratifying to see the Donkeys go down the political shitter, but we know from experience that Republican hegemony is just as horrible in its own way.

The problem, of course, is that there is no party to represent the people in this era. It’s inevitable that there will always be a party organized to represent the interests of Capital. To prevent eventual enslavement of everyone else, it’s necessary that there be a party to represent Labor. Reagan set off class warfare on behalf of Capital in 1980, and Clinton devised the winning political strategy of having the Democrats desert Labor three election cycles later.

Historically, the US economy has only remained robust when there was a strong Middle Class, and the health of the Middle Class has always closely tracked the strength of Organized Labor. Having either party dissolve would be a prerequisite to restoring balance, but only if the new party was explicitly committed to representing Labor, and that seems to be unfashionable in today’s America.

Ben R's avatar

Labor?

That requires people to work, have jobs, and have worthwhile skills.

I look around when I manage to get off work early, and there are people everywhere all the time who look like they have not worked.

Wander into a Costco at any hour of the day, and it is packed with working-age people who should be at work, not shopping.

Lugh's avatar

Don't worry. AI is going to take millions of jobs and when AI robots come online, they will take most of the rest. It's good for business, Ben, and that's all that matter, right?

Ben R's avatar

Another day, another idiotic comment from the Islamo-fascist.

Cankerpuss's avatar

I'm not the only one who thinks this? Thanks for seeing it, Ben R.

I am an aging body builder and as such I spend a lot of time in the gym. I usually visit the gym during the 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. hours (I take a late and extended lunch break) as that is when there are the fewest people there. What amazes me is how many young, able bodied men and women are at the gym pumping iron and flirting with each other during prime work day hours. They are there when I start, they are there when I finish. Why are they not working? How are these people making a living? Are they all working swing or graveyard shifts? Or are they all youtube influencers making a living fucking around and producing nothing?

Only God knows.

Ben R's avatar

I ask this everywhere I go now.

What do all these people do for a living?

They can't all be on government welfare.

Cankerpuss's avatar

Not only are they all NOT working but they are all driving around in cars much newer than mine, living in houses much larger than mine, taking trips to Disneyland every year, covered with enough tattoos that in total cost more than my mortgage, and gawking at $1300 I-Phones.

I seriously don't get it. Am I missing something? My wife always says they are in debt to their eyeballs and she's probably right, but, they still have to finance that debt with monthly payments. Are they all trust fund babies living on the inheritance received from their baby boomer parents and grand parents?

JohnAZ's avatar

The party to represent labor is a joke. The Union led Democrats led the ignorant masses down the path that made them non-competitive in the world labor market and eventually created the rust belt. Now, we are seeing an even bigger blast as AI destroys the white collar labor market. Thanks, Dems. Thanks for the rise of Trump and MAGA.

The Union movement and the middle class? Yeah, right. The current residual of the middle class is the high tech labor pool, which has not been unionized from its onset. In the meantime, unions continue to destroy American industry’s competitiveness.

Howard Skillington's avatar

Your screed against organized labor was as predictable as the sunrise. The fact remains that the Middle Class was at its greatest strength when Organized Labor was defending it. If you like things better now, that's only because the Oligarchs have not yet put you in steerage. It will still happen.

No advanced economy can compete with labor arbitrage in Bangladesh. That's what tariffs are for. Don't like higher prices? Here we are. That high tech labor pool is about to be extinguished post haste by A I. Then this country will have no Middle Class at all.

JohnAZ's avatar

I am not in steerage because I worked my way up the ladder, on my own. No unions, no government welfare. The Oligarchs had no hold on me.

Unlike the Gimme you seem to favor who have been manipulated to be dependent on the government. You want to see how crappy socialism becomes and how dependent on oligarchs, just look west. California has become a shit farm under Leftist tutelage.

Lugh's avatar

People died so you could have weekends off, you clueless dummy.

JohnAZ's avatar

I worked many weekends and holidays as a nurse, you dolt. I worked for mine, something many on this blog do not understand.

Howard Skillington's avatar

My wife taught nursing at the college level. I'm sure she would have regarded you as a great disappointment.

Howard Skillington's avatar

I get it: You've got yours. Otherwise, Fuck-All. And you're probably old enough that it will have worked for you. You can ignore the fact that more and more of Everybody Else is screwed so that ever fewer people at the apex can have obscene, unspendable wealth.

Ben R's avatar

Spoken like a true communist shill.

JohnAZ's avatar

Exactly, like someone who thinks they are entitled to steal from people who deserve their wealth using the government as their tool. As you said, a communist.

Gym+Fritz's avatar

John, “looks like a senator”, Thune.

Time to do an honest evaluation of our primary political institution; it’s not what congress says, it’s what it does - in terms of work product (vague, self-serving laws), out-of-touch leaders (Thune, et al) and procedures (silly / bizarre / embarrassing “hearings”).

Perhaps the problem starts with letting congress write its own rules and then gets acerbated but letting them spend so much money on things other than infrastructure and national defense.

The lack of responsiveness to the needs and wants of the people that they supposedly “represent” is nothing less than criminal, and yet . . .

Len Penzo's avatar

When it comes to US senators, it's not the primary system that is the problem... it is the 17th Amendment. Until the 17A is repealed and the election of US Senators is returned to the respective state legislatures, nothing changes. We will continue to have a US Senate with senators who put the federal government's interests ahead of their own state, and red US states with blue senators representing them (or far more rarely, vice versa).

Cankerpuss's avatar

Hear hear! The US Senate was created as a compromise between the Federalists and the Jeffersonian States' rights people.

The Federalists had the bureaucracy (Executive branch).

The people had the House of Representatives (Controls the money).

The States had the Senate (created to represent the interest of the state, not the people).

Since the 17th Amendment the States no longer have any representation and are nothing more than small administrative districts of the federal leviathan.

The system is no longer in balance.

Woodrow Wilson was a rotten sack of shit. Other than Abe Lincoln and FDR, no President has done more damage to the USA than that meat-sack.

Kathy Christian's avatar

I'd add Nixon for taking us off the gold standard and introducing inflation into the economy, and Clinton for gutting our manufacturing base with the NAFTA trade agreement.

Cankerpuss's avatar

They are certainly on the list. LBJ didn't do us no good either when he significantly expanded FDR's welfare programs.

Lugh's avatar

And Obama and his boy, Biden, for opening the borders. And Trump for bringing us close to nuclear was on behalf of a foreign nation.

Len Penzo's avatar

You nailed it! The Senate was indeed supposed to represent the states' voice in the federal government; that voice is now non-existent. I will add that, thanks to the 17A, it should be no surprise to anyone that most US Senators are now easily elected (and bought) with outside money from other states.

Cankerpuss's avatar

The Senate is now nothing more than a glorified House of Representatives so one really should ask why we have or need a Senate at all? Other than gumming up the works, what purpose does the Senate play that couldn't be done by a committee established by the House? The 17th Amendment gave a specific purpose for the Senate.

J Boss's avatar

Repeal 17th amendment. States retract senators that do not represent the state that appointed them.

Cankerpuss's avatar

What does Congress do, continually, every session, regardless of who has the majority?

1. Spend money we don't have.

2. Refuse to audit the Fed.

3. Refuse to stop the spending.

4. Never pass a budget.

5. Extend the debt ceiling and increase the national debt.

6. Fund and wage never ending foreign wars.

7. Grow the government.

8. Tax us into oblivion.

By their fruits ye shall know them. Not by their words.

The US Congress is a dismal and abject failure. Who cares about the Presidency. Technically the Congress is the sovereign. They control the money. They can override a Presidential veto. Instead of flexing their authoritative muscle they spend their times bickering with each other and verbally abusing some poor idiot they summoned to one of their fucking useless committee meetings so they can get on tik-tok with their sound bites (see that moron Jasmine Crockett out of Texas).

The US Congress should be obliterated and completely and entirely re-worked. Instead of a popularity contest to select Congress-critters, there should be a lottery of net taxpaying native born US citizens, drafted to serve ONE two year term including only ONE 3 month legislative session. No elections. No campaigns. No campaign contributions. Once the session is over they go back to their jobs. No more life time careers in a defunct and corrupt money sucking Congressional seat.

The US Congress should have far more representative seats in it than 435. There should be 1000, 5000 or 10,000 seats to provide far better representation to rural areas, suburban areas and urban areas. There is no reason a session of Congress can't be held in a basketball or ice hocky arena. The US Constitution doesn't limit the House to 435 seats. In Utah one representative represents nearly 750,000 people. Impossible. Laughable. Totally absurd to call these people "representatives."

Until we the people get fed up with the mess that is the US Congress, nothing is going to change. Who cares about Trump, Biden, Obama or Bush. What matters is a do nothing Congress that has, over the years, pissed away all of its authority and Constitutional responsibilities, punting it all to the bureaucracy. Most people, most Americans, don't even know what the US Congress is but they all have an opinion about President Trump. They should be pissing and farting in rage over the abject failure that is the US Congress. We got it all wrong in the USA. Our focus is in the wrong place.

Dispatches from Denali's avatar

"No man's life, liberty, or property are safe, when the Congress is in session" - Mark Twain

William Schultz's avatar

I've advocated strict term limits* and repeal of the 17th amendment for many years. But many of the folks who scoffed at my ideas have softened to my views. Perhaps a hopeful trend? I don't know.

*strict term limits+ One term only, house and senate, with alternating election cycles.

5 year terms on the executive, one term only. No career politicians which would eliminate the monopoly two-party mess we have today. Just a thought.

J Boss's avatar

9. Grow wealthy off insider trading and NGO kickback schemes.

Cankerpuss's avatar

Absolutely they do and nobody gives a damn.

Cankerpuss's avatar

And no more elections. Elections permit in the injection of funding and make the candidates and eventual winner subject to those who paid for their campaign. A lottery of net taxpaying native born citizens (no immigrants, period) would eliminate all money from the election process. Corporations and uber wealthy would be, or should be, at the same level as the general public.

The executive an appointee of the Congress.

No more elections. Elections don't work and permit the injection of large sums of money from corporations and uber wealthy who then own the candidate. The failure of the current system is obvious and bold. There has to be a better way than a high school like popularity contest to select our representatives.

FLGenX's avatar

I am *kind of* there with you BUT it makes me think of jury duty and what kind of morons we might get. Better or worse than the morons we have? I don’t know.

Cankerpuss's avatar

That's why it MUST be net taxpaying citizens. One could deduce that if a person is a net taxpayer that they at least work, earn an income, have a business, etc. But, yes, you would run the risk of getting an idiot. At least they'd only be there for one session instead of 10 sessions like we currently have.

Thomas Madden's avatar

Before Trump went to war with Iran, he had his foot on the throat of the Democratic Party. Gas was selling for $2.50 a gallon, inflation was a memory, the US was at peace and Trump was quite popular. It looked like the midterms would be great for the Republicans. Then he decided to go to war with Iran, and threw it all away. Gas soared to $4.50 a gallon, inflation hit a three year high, and Trump responded to the growing concerns of the voters by declaring that "I love the inflation". I think the Democrats will probably recapture a majority in the Senate, and make gains in the House, in this new atmosphere. It's not that Republican, and formerly Republican voters will vote for Democrats, they just won't vote at all. After losing the midterms, Trump will likely be impeached again, and be a lame-duck president presiding over yet another failed US war in the Middle East. It's a shame. He chose to start an unnecessary war and seize defeat from the jaws of victory.

Howard Skillington's avatar

When I came to President Trump, I told him, 'We are going into Iran. I did not ask permission. I simply informed him.'"

- Benjanmin Netanyahu, June 24th at a conference for local officials in Tel Aviv.

Thomas Madden's avatar

Yeah, that shows who is really in charge of US foreign policy.

Ben R's avatar

"We" as in Israel are going into Iran...Basic reading comprehension.

At least they told my government they didn't even have to do that.

Israel needs to start a weapons program and build better missiles and delivery systems to rain hell down on Iran going forward.

This is all going to happen again in a couple of years or less.

Hopefully, one of those Iranian shit sleds doesn't land in your yard in the future, Howard.

dbriz's avatar

Trump will be a lame duck president either way. The Dems are likely to take the House though don’t underestimate their ability to shoot themselves in the foot. The Senate is a tougher chance. And in the unlikely chance they win here, they will never get the votes to convict Trump by impeachment. Unless Epstein rears his dead hand. Fat chance of that.

They are better off just doing their thing and preparing for 2028.

Trump’s best chance is likely over, a quick end to the war and opening of the Strait was his best shot. At this point there isn’t time to prevent the economic consequences that will hit us by the Fall.

The GOP will put pressure on Trump in this event to resign for health reasons and try to rebuild with Vance. Which won’t make Rubio or several others happy. The GOP is in need of intervention. Their best hope is the Dems are even worse.

Thomas Madden's avatar

You describe the problem perfectly. Like I said, Trump, the Republican Party, and the US economy were all doing great, just before he took a big gamble with his war with Iran, and the brown stuff hit the fan. I am quite sure that his generals told him a story he wanted to believe, about a quick victory that would turn him into a war hero. Trump, high on his success at that point--promises made, promises kept, all of that--allowed himself to be gullible, to be naive, and to engage in Wishful Thinking. Anyone with any brains would have realized that the odds of a quick, easy, successful war against Iran--a nation much larger than Texas with a population of 90 million people who actually enjoy fighting--that there was an approximately zero percent chance of that happening. The younger, sharper, more savvy version of Trump would have seen right through that and told the generals "don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining", do you take more for a sucker, cut out the lies and wild promises of things that won't happen. . .but that version of Trump is long gone. Instead, we are led by an 80 year old man, surrounded by people who tell him whatever he wants to hear. Sad times for our country.

Jeff the Original's avatar

Agreed. Your first sentence should be "Iran" not "Iraq".

I guess my only point is that Trump is constantly his own worse enemy so to bet on him is a risky endeavor that comes with lots of downsides to any upsides you might want to point to.

Thomas Madden's avatar

I strongly supported him right up until he launched this idiotic war. A LOT of his former supporters are furious that their cost of living has skyrocketed due to his stupid, reckless decisions, and he has openly said that he loves the inflation and does not care how badly it affects US citizens and businesses. It is insane, yes, he is indeed "constantly his own worst enemy".

Dispatches from Denali's avatar

I hear you. I think many woke up and were done with him when he said "the files are a hoax" and threw his supporters under the bus.

Jeff the Original's avatar

I think the biggest difference between Trump 1.0 and 2.0 is the lack of a guardrail he has in 2.0. All of his worse instincts in 1.0, were thwarted or attenuated by his cabinet members who were mostly talented and experienced people.

In 2.0, he has surrounded himself with far less experienced sycophants...and the bad fruit of this is showing up all over the place.

Lugh's avatar

Zios and Necro-mongers. Charlie was the last real American advisor he had and thus he had to go. The smirking security guard "working" on this body after the strike or whatever it was.

Andy Sutherland's avatar

Erika kirk assumed the role of CEO of TPUSA, and like any other CEO should not be immune from examination because she is a widow. Candace and Baron Coleman just want to investigate the WHO HOW and WHY. What country maimed and killed their enemies with exploding devices? What country's leader gave president Trump a golden pager? Here is the HOW. https://www.youtube.com/live/lFPoGSa007M?si=wUYEB8ZWkfyEskCX&t=3291 The WHY is that Charlie would have had a young audience to make a loud case against the IRAN war, and ongoing activities in Lebanon. The WHO will never be fully known, just like JFK. What has been presented with Tyler Robinson is less believable than the Oswald story.

dbriz's avatar

Good point. The takedown of Candace is more a defense of Erika which takes the spotlight off…who did it? And why?

Candace is crazy like Jim Garrison was crazy, Ron Paul was crazy, Paul Wellstone was crazy. Funny how those who challenge the established script are always crazy.

Though I disagree with Trump on foreign policy and economics, he is also on the establishment “crazy” list. He should consider hiring food tasters.

dbriz's avatar

Hmmm. So there’s nothing for him to worry about huh?

JohnAZ's avatar

Ah, just knives and box cutters in the pool along with a bunch of fertilizer.

Remember fertilizer and OK City, maybe that will be next from the Leftist nuts that you in your Trump blindness seems to excuse.

dbriz's avatar

How is warning Trump to be careful “blindness”? You’re doing your too often knee jerk dance.

And, McVeigh and friends were right wing nutcases. What makes you think I “seem” to excuse “Leftist nuts”?

Grape Soda's avatar

Candace still comes off as a nutcase even if the above is all true

Andy Sutherland's avatar

When you are making a presentation that exposes the actions of unaccountable agencies and individuals, you may sound a little crazy to the person who blindly accepts the goyslop presentation from the "authorities" Her numbers show that there are many curious people that are starting to notice and smell and avoid the slop.

Ben R's avatar

She kind of always did.

Would love to see who is funding her a little dark money from Qatar?

Lugh's avatar

Madam Macron sued Candace for calling her a man. She lost. The world is a nuthouse. You haven't realized that yet.

Ron Maier's avatar

More like sour grapes............

Lugh's avatar

Indeed, an exploding mic may have been what killed him, not a magic bullet.

The last conference featured Erica and Vance. They were going to make them an item and then the royal couple. But the American people saw thru Erica, an obvious Israeli asset.

SheilaB's avatar

Erika is apparently a member of the female version of the Knights of Malta. Thus she is a papal asset.

Lugh's avatar

A crypto, which is fine with such fake Catholics btw. Remember, the Antichrist will have two seats, the Vatican and the rebuilt Temple.

SheilaB's avatar

The 'rebuilt Temple' is dispensationalist false teaching.

Lugh's avatar

So because it's spiritually false, they (both Jews and Zio-Christians) don't really believe in it? Aren't moving towards it? They are of course. They are deadly serious about this nonsense.

SheilaB's avatar

Spiritually false doesn't mean people don't believe in it. The Jews believe in it because they think it will herald the coming of their messiah, whereas obviously the Messiah came and they didn't accept him.

The Christian zionists don't understand the difference between the two different words used in Greek for 'temple' - one is the Temple in Jerusalem and the other refers to the Temple which is the body of Christ, i.e. his Church.

So they can rebuild whatever they like, but it will make no difference to biblical prophecy, which is not about the Jewish Temple. But it will engender false prophecies and false teachings as we get to the end (which doesn't look far off at this point).

From DDG's AI search function:

"The Greek word used to refer to Christ's church as a temple is naos, which denotes the sanctuary or dwelling place of God. This term emphasizes the spiritual aspect of the church as the body of believers where God's presence dwells."

SheilaB's avatar

JD Hall explaining to Tucker why dispensationalism and Christian zionism are unbiblical. Clearly, politely, and with no 'Jew hatred'. As any Christian worth their salt would point out, loving the Jews means urging them to come to Christ.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN36yhie2_c

Lugh's avatar

There are true converts to true Christianity.

There are true converts to confused Christianity.

There are false converts to confused Christianity.

There are false converts to false (consciously) Christianity.

And there are false converts to true Christianity. Get in all the better to destroy. The current and last Pope are two such.

SheilaB's avatar

And, despite apparently being a heartbroken widow, she managed not to forget to put on a massive freemasonic ring like a knuckleduster before posing for cameras draped over her husband's coffin (as you do).

Jack Perry's avatar

You're far too smart to try the Tucker-is-antisemitic trick, yet you're trying it anyway. It's disappointing. You know perfectly well that what he (and I) oppose is the outsized influence of Israel and zionists in American government and the ridiculous subsidies our so-called ally (it's a client state) receives from U.S. taxpayers. This is gonna stop one way or another, because the demographic make-up of future America will not suffer to be guilt-tripped into continuing it. If I had to guess, I would wager that most Jewish Americans (not American Jews) agree with me. Time to wake up to the new paradigm. Israel will have to find another sugar daddy very soon I'm afraid.

David "JC" Penny's avatar

Outstanding summary... and fleering? Haven't seen that one used outside of a typo in at least a decade. Love it.

Also love this: "...pure enmity to President Trump’s personality than necessarily to ideas or policy." Pretty much speaks for itself. I got into a sidebar 6 years ago with what I thought was a completely rational philosopher. He refused to accept that there was any cult but the Trump cult. It was impossible to convince him that the MAGA base is not the only cult to exist now or ever. He's not alone, still.

Let’s face it: they’re embarrassing.

Demeter's avatar

Living in the People's Republic of Ann Arbor, I see no sign of a "Trump Cult". There's definitely an "Anti-Trump Cult" with all the misinformation, slander and violence that a crazy person could want. What these sad sacks will do, when they don't have Trump to bash around anymore is a mystery. They won't get what they want, thank goodness. Maybe put themselves out of misery at our pot-shops-on-every-corner, or overdose on weight-loss miracle drugs...

JohnAZ's avatar

Yup, imagine the country without Trump in the blame light. The Deep State will actually have to do something, to say something instead of HateTrump. The haters will be lost without Trump.

John Schrauth's avatar

Perhaps some of us have forgotten that EVERY Republican or non-Democrat upon running for office is branded an extremist, anti environment, Islamaphobe, homophobe, and until recently, an Antisemite. The best recent example is the cranky Neocon Republican John McCain. The very Democrat and liberal news media figures always praising him and encouraging him to run for President immediately turned on him when he received the Republican nomination. He was instantly transformed in the media to an Islamaphobe, homophobe, Antisemite,................

Kathy Christian's avatar

There will be a new "enemy." There must always be an enemy.

Jeff the Original's avatar

Are you sure you're not confusing organizations with cults? Besides...if the Democratic "cult" were as powerful and aligned as you all claim (or at least "allude") them to be...Trump wouldn't be POTUS, the Senate and House wouldn't have the GOP as the majority party.

Trump, at his last rally, has gone from claiming that he will lower drug prices by 600% to claiming that he already has and that the US has the lowest drug prices in the world.

The Dems would never allow a leader to blatantly lie like that. That's not just lying...it's absurdity on steroids. He's mentally unfit for office, but here we are on Kunstler's website saying that really it's the Lefty-left that's the most dangerous thing we have to worry about.

The ship's about to hit an iceberg and you guys are worried about the trans couple you saw on the fan tail.

David "JC" Penny's avatar

"The Dems would never allow a leader to blatantly lie like that."

Thanx again for the affirmation.

Ben R's avatar

While all their leaders do is lie and cheat.

Ira Genium's avatar

Excellent article except for your usual ad hominem crap against commentators who aren't crazy about Jewish supremacism or Israeli behaviour. Really dilutes your overall contribution to sanity. Everybody is sick and tired of the knee-jerk tribal defensiveness. Some truth on the topic would be good.

patrick.net/memes's avatar

I don't recall hearing any "vehement antipathy for the Jews" from Tucker.

Got a quote?

He does seem opposed to AIPAC/Israel influence over Congress, but that's a good thing. Congress should represent America alone.

Disaffected's avatar

Kunstler's a bit "Jew sensitive," to say the least.