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Jeff Keener's avatar

It's become clear that the entire purpose of a "sanctuary city" is to attract and build welfare communities to create a maelstrom of fraud and that a large part of the economies of these blue cities are dependent upon stolen welfare money.

Freedom 4 conservatives's avatar

Ah, yes, the Democrat welfare state. What's interesting is how those who are paid with taxpayer dollars to maintain the bloated, Democrat-created welfare bureaucracy--whose most prominent accomplishment has been to keep people poor and taxpayer-dependent for multiple generations--aren't living in the ghettos and public housing projects that the Democrats created; the bureaucrats live nice middle-class lives out in the suburbs. And the leaders of the Democrat bureaucracy, well they live in the upper-middle class or elite suburbs. Notice that Obama didn't go back to the black 'hood in Chicago, Clintons didn't go back to the Arkansas trailer parks, the "poor kid" from Scranton putters around in his brainless existence on the Delaware beach. And, of course, the Democrat trust-funders--Pelosi, Newsom, et al--most, as they say, born on third base and think that they hit a triple--well they think that "being poor" means having live on less than $2 million a year.

The most vile person on Earth is the person who is generous with someone else's money--money taken by the police power of government from those who earned it. That describes the Democrat Party.

Jeff Keener's avatar

Guarantee that Tim Walz does not live next door to his "neighbors of color".

A hallmark of blue policymakers is that they never suffer the consequences of their advocacy. It's their moral vanity that makes them so contemptible.

Marlin Wilkiams's avatar

That's about what we have in Connecticut, an unbeatable coalition of illegal aliens, people on welfare in our squalid cities (who number in the hundreds of thousands) and longstanding, powerful Democratic politicians who minister to them. For example, a State Senator, Martin Looney, just retired after 50 years in office. Looney started off his career as a Communist, but now describes himself as a Social Democrat. Dems win every election, for every office. Hartford, New Haven & Bridgeport are perpetually deep in debt, and perpetually being bailed out by State Government. City governments seem to be nothing more than ATM machines for unwed mothers (often with 6 or 7 kids) With this in mind you can imagine what our cities look like. Hartford has a history that goes back to 1636 and produced men like Sam Colt, Frederick Law Olmstead, & JP Morgan, . Now you're lucky if you find anybody down there who can speak English. The dysfunction is unbelievable. What a destiny for the City of Hartford.

Ben's avatar

Howdie Marlin good to see you back!

Marlin Wilkiams's avatar

Thanks Ben, hope things are well with you out there in California. When I'm out relic hunting in the ancient fields around here I often think of your gold seeking expeditions in the desert, (you old sourdough!)

Ben's avatar

Spent a weekend out at red Mountain a couple of months ago found damn near a gram of shiny.

That is near Randsburg a historic mining all but ghost town.

Everywhere you look there are old mines and mining dumps.

Marlin Wilkiams's avatar

Thanks JAZ. I've been following your posts since CFN shut down, just havent had much to say for myself. Hope you are well.

JohnAZ's avatar

And you too. I have followed your posts for years and still serve orange Covid smoothies once in a while. “Marlin treats”

JohnAZ's avatar

Hey Marlin, enough with the politics. Give us the real stuff. How much higher is the sea level at your measuring point?

JohnAZ's avatar

One comment though. Your state is like most in New England, they are victims of gentrification as accumulation sites for the elite. They drive up the costs of living, and drive economies into service jobs. The result is economic layering, income inequality and neo-feudalism, AKA Marxism. The USSR was run by the communist party, fully 2% of the population. That is what neo-feudalism is going to do the US, with the Dems and Lefty-Left in the vanguard.

Marlin Wilkiams's avatar

Yeah there's quite a few wealthy 'elite' people around here altho I'm not one of them. But I live amongst them in a pretty nice place. Some Townies like myself find a way to to make a life here with just an ordinary job. Most of the people I speak of are good neighbors and good people. Do I feel any less than them? No I don't. We are an old family that has been around here many generations. I dont feel they have anything on me.

Just as a side note. There was an poster on CFN known as Ripthunder, also St.Elmosfire, he was the retired Fireman from Mass. Well, he's had some health setbacks as of late and I ask that you say a prayer for him. He's a tough guy and will pull thru just fine but hey, prayers cannot hurt. Thanks.

Lugh's avatar

The clay is brother to us all. We'll pull through until we don't. Here's some stories about the Marine Devil Dogs. They have a cemetery on Guam. Why not visit if you have the money?

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/2058328244617650243.html

Sell you house, visit Guam and then relocate to Red America.

Cankerpuss's avatar

I really like this post F4C. Well said.

Gym+Fritz's avatar

Spanberger and Carney epitomize what is wrong with politics, both come across as polished political entities, projections of powerful, entrenched political machines (a party in one case, God knows what in Carney’s case) - rather then real citizens who have gotten into politics to try and help make their governments better serve their constituents. They both are just puppets / avatars for nameless, faceless, powerful “cabals” (for lack of a better word) that could care less about what people want, think, need, or believe. Eventually, if they have their way, the rich and powerful will have all the money.

Sorry to be so negative.

Fred Richmond's avatar

Not negative, truthful.

Jeff Keener's avatar

I cannot disagree.

agathon's avatar

uh.... When 'cha figger that out? And you forgot the closed loop part where a chunk of that fraud kicks back directly from fraudsters and indirectly via captured zombie public retail donations back to their captors.

Jeff Keener's avatar

I've known since 2021 that the primary purpose of sanctuary status was to swell the population of blue districts in advance of the 2030 Census, but the welfare fraud factor became most evident when the crackdown on Minneapolis fraud started and Frey said that these Somali businesses made up a large part of the economy of his city. As for kickbacks to the polis that enable the fraud, I'm sure that plays a role in covering for that status quo. I'd like to see the whole thing crater in spectacular fashion.

NothingButNet's avatar

Nice post, JHK 👍 It certainly looks like your long anticipated prosecution of the Dem miscreants is actually happening! Indeed, those nitwits are about to be Clusterfarked and it will happen in the next 105 days, as you’ve predicted! Time for the big hammer 🔨 to come down on them 🔥🔥🔥🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

P. Robert Thorson's avatar

Based on past history, the political crimes of the U.S. are rarely prosecuted and brought to justice for anyone but the small fish. Impeachments without conviction and removal from office do not count. I would love to see it, but I doubt Trump and the Gang will ever bring any charges more serious than a parking ticket to Obama - after all, Fauci is still off the hook. If I'm wrong and Obama or Biden or Hillary are charged with high crimes like treason, it certainly looks like a spark of widespread chaos.

However, from what I can tell American politics is simply time and money wasting theater which distracts from the below radar tyranny and the Decline of Western Civilization. Business as usual as the Empire undergoes collapse.

Rick's avatar

You are still living in the old world. This is the NEW world.

Pay attention and turn off CNN.

P. Robert Thorson's avatar

Nice strawman there, Rick. I don't watch TV, and FOX is as bad as the others.

I would argue the "old world" believers are those that believe political solutions can still happen, politicians work in the best interests of the masses, infinite growth and technical progress is still the name of the game, the U.S. economy is strong, and if it just wasn't for the (Red/Blue) people on the other "side", life would be simply wonderful.

The truth and reality appears to me that politicians across the globe are in the pockets of The Puppet Masters, so "solutions" are usually more grift or in the interest of the Uber-Wealthy. Main street gets a crumb now and then. The U.S. economy is poised on the brink of collapse. Polarization techniques have effectively prevented a mass uprising to the obvious corruption of all leaders. As the Long Emergency kicks into high gear, we've squandered precious time and resources to mitigate the crises of our age.

The difference now is that we're seeing the collapse accelerated, and the current administration is every bit as weak and powerless to as the "Joe Biden" regime - since it's run by the same bosses. How many posters here thought this Iranian Project would be over in a week or two? It reminded me of the First Battle of Bull Run, which reset the thinking of the scope and duration of the Civil War. What we're seeing in the Middle East now is a stalemate turning into a major step down in the influence of the U.S. as a world power.

We'll see now over the summer and fall things start to unravel quickly. Bringing justice to the major players who've engineered all this will become lower priority as new crises begin. That's the "new world" in the pipeline.

Rick's avatar

Respectfully Mr. Thorson, you are not recognizing the profundity of this moment. Your sour attitude is blinding you to the real opportunity we have. This is not like any other moment IN A CENTURY.

3 assassination attempts on Trump, unrelenting Lawfare, libels and slanders...

The UniParty frustrates and sabotages him at every chance.

The Puppet Masters of which you correctly speak are the Deep State and you are correct that most of it has been interchangeable...the so-called UniParty.

Imagine 85% of the electorate want voter ID and more transparent honest elections and yet it does not happen ?

I call it a LITMUS test. Anyone opposed to the SAVE ACT should be ousted.

BUT it's just little people like you and me who can do that ousting. Get involved in the PRIMARY process. Get in their faces. Ask the tough questions.

Don't sit in the life- boat if you won't row.

The Deep State hates and fears Trump like no other President since perhaps Kennedy, or more appropriately McKinley, or even Lincoln.

They even took out NIXON after 48 states in 1972 re-elected him. His contrary position was to end the military industrial grift in Vietnam, a war which BTW could have been won by simply taking out a couple of the North Vietnam SUPER dams in the north. The flooding would have devastated their agriculture, and the North would have sued for peace.

BUT the war manipulators didn't want to WINn that war, they just wanted to PROFIT off it (and they did.)

Sorry to get off topic....

Your pessimism (cynicism) does NOTHING to help us during this moment to defeat the Deep State.

The Middle East Mess of 80 years has been entirely manipulated by the "former" British Empire and their oligarchical allies in old decaying Europe, and Trump's moves are brilliantly creating an entire new "position."

The countries in the ME have had British Empire/CIA Muslim Brotherhood shit thrown at every one of them who dared to challenge that Empire mentality.

I won't continue.

But I would sincerely urge you to take a different view on what is shaping up, both Domestically, and Internationally. The lens through which you are viewing it is misaligned.

Have a great Holiday, and let's both remember those brave and unfortunate souls who too often died without fully knowing why or for what.

P. Robert Thorson's avatar

Well, I think our views are very different. The Puppet Masters are not the Deep State, though they do control them as well. They are the real holders of power and wealth, and not simply lifetime politicians, .gov workers, or contractors/lobbyists putting their greed ahead of the country's best interests. Doing what they're told. Across the globe.

A key difference is that you're still believing the fire house of propaganda which perpetuates there's a difference between the parties and politicians. See "controlled opposition" and techniques of blackwashing under definitions of psychological warfare. While you're at it, look up the definition of "predicament", since it's the feature of Decline and end of Empire processes that we face. I think history will show the dominoes began to fall more quickly as a result of the Iranian <trumped up> conflict. Our priorities will be changing dramatically through the end of the year.

Anyway, enjoy Memorial Day as well. In spite of War being a racket (which I did not understand when I served in the Air Force in the mid 1980s), it doesn't change the fact that many of our freedoms have been gained and protected by those who made the ultimate sacrifice. I just hope that the numbers of those who made that sacrifice don't increase drastically over the next decade or so....

JohnAZ's avatar

You are so right. One observation, the SAVE act is looked upon by the Deep Staters as a knife to their throat. All the career Deep Staters would have to run for office again with no “machines” running the show. In the war between the people and the Deep State, it will be a win for the people. Maybe that is why 85% want voter ID.

joe_ferguson's avatar

Nothing But Net burning the OL Glory SWISH

Anthony Freda's avatar

Great update, as usual. Until the Clinton/Obama/Biden leave-behind network of spooks and crooks are exorcized from the body politic, the cancer will keep cancer-ing.

wkenn's avatar

In essence, how different is this from what became the shadow CIA operated by Allan Dulles in the 1960's after JFK tried to get rid of him with the intent of smashing the operation into thousands of pieces?

Il faut savoir ~'s avatar

Yes but we need a different outcome which is to keep this President alive.

Alan Devincentis's avatar

The fact that millions are aware of that decrepit organization now, as opposed to what was known in 1963 will make a huge difference.

Kathy S.'s avatar

Alan Devincentis, we can only pray that you are right. It feels at a GUT level that that awareness SHOULD make a difference... but to be completely honest, I'm not sure how.

wkenn's avatar

During at least one, (and possibly more than one), interview following his announcement to run for President, Bobby made public statements pointing directly at the CIA as behind the murders of both his father and his uncle. A few years earlier he had met with Sirhan Sirhan for about three hours and came away saying he was convinced Sirhan did not kill his father.

complex Craftsman's avatar

I was going to offer just that , and throw in an observation about the old observation that " there is a lot of rot in a nation ", with the observation about that observation being that there was still a heck of a lot more rot left to go thru in 1963 than there is in 2026 . At some point all the rot will have been gone thru and that's when it becomes that " come to Jesus" moment where it is no longer tenable to just "whistle past the proverbial grave yard " of the economic and moral/ spiritual degradation ( the two are actually the same and it is only our continued failure to recognize their interconnectedness that keeps us pretending to begin with ) any longer , and real concrete actions NEED to be taken ." Little by little , and then all at once " - Hemingway's description of going bankrupt . Are we there yet ? I'm thinkin we gotta be gettin pretty darn close to that inflection point , I know I'm mpersonally thoroughly exhausted from just trying to splain' it from 39( a hyperbolic and arbitrary number just to make the point ) different freakin angles and perspectives . But hey , I do know if you play Springsteen's "My Home Town "backwards you get the Trump economic policy platform !!!!! It's all I got , thanks JHK ,and all the rest here who offer a well spring of sanity in the dessert of insanity outside of the world of' based ' forums such as this .

Leskunque Lepew's avatar

The Democratic party is gone.

Taking its place is the WEF/Transnational gangsters Socialist party.

Their aim.. .Destroying the US constitution.

wkenn's avatar

The Radical Far Left believes this is their time. They have been organizing, testing tactics, and preparing for their ‘moment’. The ‘moment’ will span years. The year 2032 looks like a possible climax point. We will find out. Presently, they are preparing for May Day 2028. This year was a practice run.

The rest of the decade is set up to be more than quite tumultuous. The current depleted energy reserves, lack of sufficient fertilizer, paucity of various materials essential to keep this modern society running, and other factors lurking behind these obvious shortfalls all traceable to lack of sufficient energy are beginning to play out.

It makes for the pyre of chaos they want to ignite.

These people are prepared. They have a decentralized organization, are not one group, with nuanced differences separating them.. The common theme is replace the Constitutional Republic with their marxist utopia. This means total destruction of capitalism. This is far different from anything attributable to the WEF and the various collections of oligarchs around the planet.

There are scant sources who truly understand the Far Left Radicals. Forget anything offered by the the talking heads on the television They are as clueless as the ‘administration’ in the Imperial City.

These groups are marxist. Marxists are anticapitalist. They speak their own language. Learning their lexicon takes time . I’ll readily admit I’m still learning, yet will offer the overwhelming majority of Americans do not understand the lexicon of the Radical Far Left exists. It follows since they do not know it exists there is a failure to understand what they are saying.

Gr8LakesPatriot's avatar

Great points made here. Data Republican just wrote a fantastic two part piece on what you have described, with an emphasis on NGOs as the vehicle. We are in a moment of quiet apathy right now. I am afraid by the time everyone wakes up, it will be too late. Dismantling the NGOs and their funding must become a dual priority, along with getting rid of the Marxist operatives within our institutions.

JohnAZ's avatar

Empathy or apathy?

Gr8LakesPatriot's avatar

My goodness. Good catch. Definitely apathy.

Liquid Len's avatar

You can edit that, we won't tell...

wkenn's avatar

GLP: might you have link? I’m interested in reading what was written. Marxist groups self-fund from their job income. Some could be working for NGOs, as one example of employers. As another example, the UAW is rather heavily involved with DSA, were overtly visible and quite involved with personal interactions at DSA sites on May 1st.

Gr8LakesPatriot's avatar

Here you go. Give @DataRepublican a follow. She is the most well researched writer I have read in a while. https://substack.com/@datarepublican/note/p-197943211?r=qytqx&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action

Freedom 4 conservatives's avatar

"The majority of those who are loosely identified by the term 'liberals' are afraid to let themselves discover that what they advocate is statism. They want to keep all the advantages and effects of capitalism, while destroying the cause, and they want to establish statism without its necessary effects. They do not want to know or to admit that they are the champions of dictatorship and slavery." -Ayn Rand

Al Davis's avatar

I wonder what Anne would say about the Zionist influence over politics? No comment about Masseys defeat by $32 million AIPAC money! 80%of congress taking AIPAC money, 20% have dual citizenship. TUCKER AND Megan or others ain't gonna stop asking those questions just because your ignoring the questions. I have a follower since August, 2009, sharing ect. Hummmm, have I been fooled again, guess so! Won't be the first time, gwt your preparation made, looking like the long knives are coming outta the humid darkness!

Lugh's avatar

Wasn't she Jewish herself? She loved Capitalism, but wanted nobility and Aryan good looks. There's very little nobility in greed, so she was bound to be disappointed.

Debbie Wagner's avatar

Most people don’t know what is actually happening and they don’t want to take the time to find out. It’s pure laziness that will ultimately lead to our downfall.

Leading politicians, leftists, Islamists, and globalists know this and use it to their advantage.

One day Americans WILL wake up to the reality of how our country has been taken over. The question is, “Will it be before or after it is too late?”

UncleBob9's avatar

It's probably been too late since FDR's re-election in 1936. At the latest, it was after El BJ's election in 1964. Sincevthen, it's just been a fight over whose entitlements matter more than somebody else's.

Kathy Christian's avatar

So long as they keep getting their stuff, most won't care.

Tony's avatar

Yup. A unique blend of moral cowardice and American pragmatism.

Jeff the Original's avatar

I'm a former GOP guy (30 years) and now totally anti-Trump & anti-GOP guy...and feel your description of "pure laziness" applies to you more than the Dems. Consider the following:

- You hate the Green New Deal (Did you ever actually read it?)

- You shout Russia, Russia, Russia (Did you read the Mueller Report?)

- Do you remember that Trump already investigated the Russian Investigation and found nothing? (The Durham report)

- You say "Biden Crime Family" but did anything ever come from those investigations?

- Why did the GOP led committee subpoena Hillary Clinton and make her testify under oath (and video recorded) about the Epstein investigation, but they haven't subpoenaed Melania? Or...when they brought in Luttnick again, who LIED about having been on Epstein island, why didn't they make him go under oath and record his testimony?

Honestly...I'm not posting this to do a "gotcha" per se...I do it because this is the damn truth that you guys never see here or in your other sources of news.

The Dems aren't perfect, but these days, they are WAY more honest than Trump and the GOP.

Ben's avatar

Former GOP guy uh huh and no one believes you.

Jeff the Original's avatar

Well...I did vote for Ronald Reagan from Navy boot camp in 1984 via absentee ballot and really enjoyed the Reagan years while I was on active duty.

You do realize that your comment only serves to demonstrate that you would prefer to believe something that isn't true because it's easier and more convenient for you to deal with, right? You guys literally do that ALL the time.

The GOP has turned into a cult of personality....I tried to hang in there, but when you went all in with Trump...I had to leave.

Ben's avatar

You do realize that a standard tactic of the leftist mob is to lie and one of the biggest whoppers is I was once one of you.

Debbie Wagner's avatar

There are no “gotchas” here. Your response illustrates my point.

Subpoena Melania?? 🤪

You cite a number of “reports”. Obviously you believe in the pristine honesty of your overlords. I don’t. So, believe what you want to believe. I don’t intend to waste my time arguing with you about it in a comments section.

Oh, and btw, the Biden crime family has never been investigated. Who was going to “investigate”? Biden’s own DOJ? Merrick Garland? Perhaps the current DOJ will be able to shed some light here in the near future if all the evidence wasn’t destroyed.

Hey, I heard there’s a “No Kings” march down the street. Better hurry! You don’t want to miss it!

Jeff the Original's avatar

I guess you hadn't heard the following about Melania...that when Michael Wolff claimed she was in a relationship with Epstein, she threatened via a letter from her lawyer to sue him for $1B. A couple of months later, Wolff sued her with a NY law that makes it illegal for people to threaten lawsuits for the purposes of intimidation and getting the person to "shut up".

So...Wolff turned the tables on her because now she's threatened with having to respond to "discovery" as part of his lawsuit. He has stated that he has recordings of Jeffrey Epstein stating that he was in a relationship with her. I'm guessing that getting Epstein's former house staff under oath might be a little frightening to her. Geez...seems like he could subpoena Donald Trump as well. Melania does NOT want to go under oath either!!

Wolff would NOT have filed a lawsuit against her if he didn't have the goods.

That's just one example of SO MANY where it exposes how badly you are misinformed by your pro-MAGA news sources.

Honestly...have you ever considered why so many of the MAGA claims go nowhere when they get to court? I'm sure you'll claim it's liberal judges, but the fact is that most of your claims are BS propaganda that sounds good and so you all buy into it.

Rick's avatar

Nonsense. If such were true, it would have been front page NYT and WaPo.

Since your BS story is BS, those publications would not publish it, for fear (well considered) of multiple billion$ libel suit.

You don't think very well. Certainly not "critically."

I'm guessing maybe acollege indoctrinated psychology or history or journaljism major ?

Ben's avatar

Spinning and deflecting.

Another proven tactic of leftist mob mentality.

Rosemary B's avatar

keep reading the daily beast and all of the leftist propaganda. They are thrilled that you are falling for this.

Good luck pulling more like minded retarded people into your safe space.

MarshaLouise's avatar

Now, spend a few words on the real goings-on in Florida in these grand conspiracy cases, where soon you will find truth and justice emerging. Keep watching there instead of Michael Wolff. We watch for what we desire.

Sue Don Nim's avatar

Jeff (of) the (not so) original (dem talking points). Spout some more leftist boiler plate.

Jeff the Original's avatar

You actually try debating my points rather than attacking the messenger.

I'm just tired of watching you guys lie to each other and acting like everyone else are idiots. Quite the little bubble of alternative facts you have here.

If you weren't ruining OUR country...I might find it more humorous.

Debbie Wagner's avatar

Who would want to debate someone who is immune to facts?

It’s a waste of time!

Blocking you. Useful idiots have NOTHING to add.

Sue Don Nim's avatar

Like Debbie W. said... your leftist talking points have been debunked so many times there's no point in "debating" with you. It's an endless circle jerk and waste of time that goes nowhere. The deflections and non sequiturs you people make are enough to run a hamster wheel at 100 MPH. SPIN HAMSTER SPIN!

JohnAZ's avatar

Our country?

Hahahahahaha. You do not give one damn about our country.

JohnAZ's avatar

Well, the scientific community is sending out stuff refuting the Green New Deal as most of the Turn of the century claims are being debunked. One thing about lies, they have to be monitored and reinforced.

Sean Hannity podcast has been interviewing a former capo of the NYC mafia who has stated that Biden family is part of the Mob. Almost everything that Biden did supported crime in the US.

You keep quoting Leftist reports, you have been converted to the MSM POV. The current AG will be releasing info that will directly contradict all those reports.

You are supporting people that want to end America and create Amerika. Please do not pretend you are pro- American.

Alan Devincentis's avatar

You give them much more credit than they deserve. Most of the sheep are stupid, hence the ability of one dog to corral them. We will never win them. They’re lost. But those in that middle area, just above the dog, are waking up.

Kathy Christian's avatar

A large part of the problem is that most of the voting public is woefully undereducated. Most can't read above maybe a 5th or 6th grade level, and that's not counting the blacks, whose kids in the public school system can't read or do math at grade level. All over the country, except for Mississippi, I think. Nobody knows civics anymore. I was listening to a radio show the other day where they discussed this history PhD major who didn't know who Napoleon was. No lie. So that's what we face for the future.

wkenn's avatar

"A large part of the problem is that most of the voting public is woefully undereducated."

This is by design. It is a long list. These people have a long game strategy. Many have been raised in marxist households, which on its face shows this is generations-deep. Higher education has been captured, turning out a propagandized product. It has filtered down to grade school and earlier.

JohnAZ's avatar

Education department, signed, sealed and delivered by the Deep State with a big input from “W” with no child left behind.

Typical Fed work, since all the Deep State interference in public schools, test scores have fallen and half the kids are in charter schools looking to get a real education instead of DEI bs.

Talk about corruption, think about this. Destroy American education and give more permission to corporations to bring in foreigners. Bush reinforced with AIMS testing which tells the corporations just how terrible public education is.

elysianfield's avatar

"They discussed this history PhD major who didn't know who Napoleon was. "

Kathy,

Everyone know that he was the guy that invented the three-flavor ice cream...they even named it after him.

Cankerpuss's avatar

Yep. And most people believe their drinking water comes from the tap and their rib eye comes from the super market, not knowing the intense complexities and minutiae of producing and delivering those good to their taps and to their super markets.

Humans are getting dumber and dumber as the years pass on.

Vegan Shark's avatar

"Humans are getting dumber and dumber as the years pass on."

Yes, Cankerpuss, it seems so. High school students in the early 20th century knew more and wrote better than Ph.D. candidates now. Today's average person needs a computer app or editor to sound literate.

But are people dumber? It's likely many are just held back from achieving their potential. That's down to egalitarian ideology.

The lower-functioning members of society must be favored and catered to, so the more gifted are held back lest they make the others look bad by comparison.

Tony's avatar

I thought the custard filled flakey pastry was his culinary claim to fame.

Rosemary B's avatar

It is, Tony. I think I learned that in History... or maybe Home Ec.

JohnAZ's avatar

Guess who has created the stupidification? All of Jeff’s buddies in the Deep State. They have certainly succeeded with him.

JohnAZ's avatar

The stupidification of America is a fact. Socialism requires sheep. Federal education and illegal immigration for four years, that is all it took.

Lugh's avatar

Yeah, not four decades and more under Presidents of both parties, but just four years under Biden. John Az is in the house.

JohnAZ's avatar

Biden was the culmination of forty years of socialistic leaning, so I agree with you, but it was the climax. The really good news is that it showed the public the rotten nature of socialism, and Trump won handily.

Ben's avatar

So did Obama and look how many still did not get the message.

Kathy S.'s avatar

wkenn, great comment.

Most folks don't know that political terrorism in Russia began in the 1870s... decades BEFORE the Bolsheviks launched the 1917 communist revolution. Forty years of violence, propaganda, and THOUSANDS of politically motivated ASSASSINATIONS, throughout Russia, prepared the way for the eventual overthrow of the government. People should read history.

Dostoevsky's novel "Demons" (also translated as "Devils" or "The Possessed"), although fictional, captures the nihilistic evil of these people.

Another book I recommend -- a fairly short nonfiction book that I recommend so highly, I would call it necessary reading for our time -- is "Nihilism: The Root of the Revolution of the Modern Age," written by Fr. Seraphim Rose, an American-born Russian Orthodox priest who died in 1982. The book is only 100 pages, and it NAILS what we are really dealing with.

wkenn is correct that the "woke" Left is qualitatively different from a merely political movement. There's a reason Dostoevsky called these people demonically possessed. All they want is to DESTROY, for destruction's sake itself. They viscerally hate and are determined to annihilate the good, the decent, the wholesome, the beautiful, and the innocent.

Gr8LakesPatriot's avatar

Outstanding recommendation, Kathy. I’m going to check out this book. You are correct about people not understanding the true nature of these woke demons. I’m a recently retired public school administrator and teacher. I lived through the infiltration of these demons into our schools. The response is always the same, we are the crazy ones overreacting. The bottom line, Marxists ALWAYS work overtime to destroy the family so the state can replace parenting. The nuclear family, especially those with moral values steeped in Christianity are seen as the enemy.

Lugh's avatar

And who funded them, Kathy? All this took a lot of money so where did it come from?

William Foster's avatar

Need a poster designed, with two columns. Marxist "lexiCON" on the left, translation into plain English on the right. Free PDF printed at home en masse and stapled to every telephone pole in the country.

complex Craftsman's avatar

Just entertain for the moment that the radical far left , domestically , are simply the "useful idiotry / true believer" ,ground level operatives for these larger transnational movements . At the transnational level nobody believes Marxism / communism / socialism /progressivism will ever make good on its supposed utopian promises , that's just for the consumption of the great mass of intellectually challenged suckers who are easily emotionally manipulated , no , at that level its just manipulative and disingenious pie in the sky promises that act in the service of these top level control freaks desire to control and rule over everything .

Its a crude and rough description of the architecture( I'm no Kunstler )but if you allow for my literary clumsiness I think its accurate .

Yirgach's avatar

When you are able to manage control of the Knob of Reality and turn it past 11, resources can appear to be non-existent or lacking as you stated. That only makes it real if people are led to believe that it's real. This is what real fascism or communism is all about. You're right about their planing and tactics, it's all been done before but now we have instant global communication. Evolution continues on course.

MCL's avatar

The uniparty poltical gangsters likely see the CCP as their working model.

Rosemary B's avatar

True. Many people are following them. I just do not understand that.

It is honestly, off limits to speak to them. Hubbs and I are the shunned relations among the siblings. Just crazy.

James Howard Kunstler's avatar

What an original thought!

David "JC" Penny's avatar

Not original by any means. Just putting RB's comment in perspective regarding the difficulty communicating with Sibs that will not communicate with non-believers.

dbriz's avatar

Hey, you got his attention!

Rosemary B's avatar

it appears to me to be a mental breakdown, a refusal to acknowledge their own unhinged dishonesty with themselves. It is shocking. I know too many people like this. Do they need meds? are they taking meds that make them this way?

JohnAZ's avatar

MSM, the hordes watch only that. Colbert ridiculous? Try any report on MSNow.

Rosemary B's avatar

I can't think of any situation, presently, that I would want to sit (or stand) and listen to these arrogant psychotic pricks.

Alan Devincentis's avatar

That will be a fun war.

JohnAZ's avatar

That is one side. The GOP is morphing into the MAGA group, all that remains is to rename the party.

Seeing the performance of the current Dem vs. GOP situation, the sooner the better.

BTW, Bill Kristal is a Democrat. Surprise.

complex Craftsman's avatar

yeah maybe ,but hasn't the 'democrat' party been the sheep disguise that the transnational wolves have hid behind ? It has been a popular thing to claim that" their masks are now off" lately .

Suzie's avatar

Todd Blanche at DOJ seems to be exactly what was missing there since Trump’s election. So far so good.

The Ft. Pierce Grand Jury has their work cut out for them, but I’d rather they not rush it just for the midterms sake, though if the Dems gain power in that election it’s hard to see how it will go.

All the more reason. EVERYONE and their dog needs to GET OUT AND VOTE RED in November!

If we want a chance to continue this fight to save the Republic we cannot afford to go wobbly now, with so much at stake, even though it may mean holding your nose to vote for the Republican on your ticket. DO IT ANYWAY!!

We cannot afford complacency and NEVER, EVER, EVER let the Democrats anywhere near power EVER AGAIN!! Or we lose our very last chance to continue this Revolutionary cause to save our Republic! This election rests on the shoulders of We, the People to Go Out and Vote, and get as many to come with you and do likewise.

The stakes are as great as they were in 1776 and we must FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT for our freedom, and our children’s.

Cankerpuss's avatar

"EVERYONE and their dog needs to GET OUT AND VOTE RED in November!"

Yeah, because voting has served us so well up to this point. I'm dismayed that there are still people out there who believe we can vote ourselves out of this mess. Remember, there have been two Republican Administrations that controlled both the Senate and the House and THEY DID NOTHING! They continued to wage wars, fund the military-industrial complex, tax and spend money we don't have and grow the gubmint. You keep voting for those elected representatives.

"even though it may mean holding your nose to vote for the Republican"

This is exactly why the American political system is an abject failure. You are satisfied with choosing between horse shit and cow shit for your votes. Both candidates stink and both candidates bring flies. Evil is evil, Susie. One may be less evil but it is still evil. We shouldn't have to hold our nose when we vote. Republican Administrations do nothing notably different than Democrat Administrations. Period. Proof? $40 trillion in debt and counting. Your advice is antiquated and foolish.

"We cannot afford complacency and NEVER, EVER, EVER let the Democrats anywhere near power EVER AGAIN"

Because the Republicans have served us so well, haven't they? Isn't John Thune a Republican and isn't he causing the "Save Act" to fail? You people have to get off this Democrat bad, Republican good mentality. There is no difference between the political parties other than lip service and theater.

I admire your zeal but you are extremely naive, deceived or just plum brainwashed by the Republicans. Wake up. Republicans are not the answer any more than the Democrats. I refuse to play this game anymore.

You spend too much time listening to Mark Levin and Sean Hannity.

Suzie's avatar

do not listen to either of them - ever.

I totally get what you’re saying, but you have to play the cards you’re dealt.

Yes most often it’s a bum deal, but short of tearing down the whole damn thing and starting from scratch, (which we may very well come to anyway), putting the Republicans back in there is our absolute only option at this point. If the Dems get back in, it is game over for good.

At least we’ll still be in the “game”, and the President will be able to keep on trucking, and he’ll be able to wrestle more vigorously with Congress in his last two years.

I’m just working with what we’ve got and willing stay in the fight to make it better.

I have kids and grandkids. Im doing it for them so they stand half a chance at a decent life.

Cankerpuss's avatar

"putting the Republicans back in there is our absolute only option at this point"

But it isn't, Suzie. We the people have the power. If we could unite we could all starve the beast by simply withholding our taxes. But we don't. We are so divided as a people. White vs. black. Men vs. women. Gay vs. Straight. Democrat vs. Republican. Old vs. Young. Mexican American vs White American. Rich vs. Poor. Religious vs. Atheist. Fat vs. Skinny. Animal lovers vs. animal eaters. The people have become scattered, divided and leaderless. The "leaders" we do have don't lead anything but the stuffing of their own wallets.

I'm in Utah and the Republicans we have here are worthless. I can't in good conscience vote for anyone that I am confident won't do the job we need them to do.

"At least we’ll still be in the “game”,"

I guess this is where we differ. You believe we still have some teeth in the game. I don't. There is no game. We are slaves. Born into a system we had no say in constructing. So were our parents and grand parents. It's so bad, so ingrained in our psyche that we cannot even conceive in our minds any other way to live. So, we return to the same old failed voting systems and same old failed political parties, and hope and pray that they will one day do what they promise and fix a broke system. Next time it will be different. Next time the Republicans will do what they say they will. Next time.......

We are like a dog returning to its vomit for a snack.

I've had enough of it. I won't participate anymore. There has to be a better way. I'm just not smart enough to figure out what it is.

Thank you for a civil and kindly response.

All my best.

Vegan Shark's avatar

"There has to be a better way. I'm just not smart enough to figure out what it is."

While you (and the rest of us) are awaiting a revelation of the better way, shouldn't we participate in the electoral process even if all it promises is a less-bad outcome? A civil war or similar offers no guarantee of winning (most likely the opposite) and inevitably involves much suffering.

Even the smallest victory can have a knock-on effect.

But I do understand your frustration.

Fight the Good Fight's avatar

The Thomas Massie defeat is a wake-up call. I’ll leave it at that.

Casey Jones's avatar

Your solution is? (Mark Maybe and Sean Who?)

Cankerpuss's avatar

There is only one solution. The system must collapse, purged and rebuilt. That is the only way to truly purge the corruption, cast out the filth and start over. The way we are going, that is what is going to happen.

I have been hearing the same croakings of doom about how if we don't get out and vote the Democrats will take power and our way of life will vanish for 30 years now. I have watched GW Bush with the Senate and House do nothing. I have watched DJ Trump with the House and Senate, twice, do nothing.

I refused to be counted among the clinically insane who continue to demand they do the same thing over and over and over again but expect a different result each time.

We will not vote ourselves out of this. Period.

You keep voting for those elected "representatives" if it makes you feel better about yourself. Otherwise, look at history and see that voting the same way over and over and over again hasn't yielded any significant results.

Casey Jones's avatar

And you keep yearning for a collapse that is unconditionally guaranteed to deliver the biggest, baddest, asshole in the mix of survivors as your leader. (If you know of a revolution-from-chaos other than ours (and ours wasn't, by a long shot, from chaos) that ended otherwise, kindly name it.)

Cankerpuss's avatar

So what do you suggest? Other than lambasting my thoughts. Do you really think that you can continue voting and resolve all of this nonsense? If so, you fall right into the category of the insane, those who keep doing the same thing over and over again but expecting a different result.

Voting doesn't work. Look at the political situation of the last 30 years and prove me wrong.

You keep voting for those elected representatives and pat yourself on the back for doing your civic duty. It has worked so well.

$40 trillion and counting. Endless wars. Inflation. Thanks Republicans AND Democrats.

Cankerpuss's avatar

And who says we have to replace our existing bloated government with another bloated government? Anarchy, isn't necessarily a bad thing.

JohnAZ's avatar

I do not understand holding the nose for a Republican over a Democrat. Do not not agree with JHK on his analysis here? Democrats stink like a pile of manure now that the Lefty-Left are in charge. To people interested in a mostly capitalistic Republican America, there is no choice.

Suzie's avatar

I mean for people who may have to vote for the obvious RINO types, like Susan Collin’s, who’s basically a thorn in our flesh most often.

But totally agree the Democrats are no option whatsoever. They are a textbook evil, criminal enterprise and always have been.

Matthew Murphy's avatar

I didn't want the guy. Didnt think he was in line with the movement.

He clearly is in line with Trump, so my complaints are gone. I stand corrected.

Lugh's avatar

Well said. Meanwhile Trump is setting up a surveillance state with the help of Palantir. You like vanilla ice cream and the Democrats like chocolate and more exotic flavors. But it's still basically the same thing.

Ben's avatar

Nope not even close.

JohnAZ's avatar

Lugh’s problem is that he cannot sell his socialistic message. Tons of failed attempts make socialism the genre of stand up comedy.

Who wants socialism!? The gimmes with their power hungry promisers. No one else.

Casey Jones's avatar

"EVERYONE and their dog needs to GET OUT AND VOTE RED in November!"

YES!!! And their goldfish and support hippo! THAT is the secret sauce, unobserved in any article that I've seen. for the pleasantness of the recent primaries.

wkenn's avatar

Todd Blanche has been running the DOJ all along. Bondi was just the face of the operation. A Ballard alumni, along with Wiles. Placed there as a distraction. Mostly commuted from Florida for photo ops.

John Schrauth's avatar

Exceptional summary of the current situation. I can't stand even five seconds of Colbert so I didn't see it. Was Bruce still trying to wear those size 28 Levis that are so tight they cut off the blood flow to his supposed brain?

JohnAZ's avatar

Hollywood is full of people that make a living by parroting other people. Colbert never said a thing that was original, just what writers told him to say. Actors read lines with very few able to ad lib anything. Ever wonder why there are no more “Dean Martin” roasts? There are not enough clever truly talented people in Hollywood to man the dais.

Absolutely perfect people for the Democratic Party to exploit!!

E. Grogan's avatar

"The Democrats will go into the midterms revealed to be nothing more than a looting operation."

I agree 100%. I'm putting this on my Top Ten List of My Favorite Things. Most of the Dumbocrats are communist. Having been to four different communist countries, I NEVER want to live under communism, am so glad to see the Dumbos going down!

Thomas Madden's avatar

This post reads like it was written before Trump went to war with Iran. Back in those halcyon days, gas was $2.50 a gallon, inflation was a thing of the past, and the nation was at peace. Back then, yes, it really did look like the Republicans were going to cruise to a win in the midterms with a popular president and a strong national economy. Now gas is over $4.50 a gallon, inflation is at a three year high, and Trump's national approval rating ranges from 34-38 percent, depending on which poll you rely upon. A lot has changed, fast. The war is Iran has gone on for 12 full weeks, as of this writing. It's a shame: Trump had a winning hand, and he chose to throw it all away. Re-districting is cute, SCOTUS is cute: wars aren't cute and they don't end well for the United States. Not anymore.

Storie Mooser's avatar

What, you don't understand that time and determination are required in changing course of our hijacked Ship of State. especially when the bamboozle of public perception away from "informed consent" has been going on for decades. Slumber back into your instant gratification stupor while mindful citizens undertake restoration of our Republic.

Mun’s Frolick's avatar

Your last sentence is pure silliness — “mindful citizens”! And how many of them do you suppose exist? A “restoration of our Republic” is another doozy. Most Americans have no idea what a republic, or a democracy, or liberty even mean. Civic virtue is an endangered species, near extinction. Vanity won.

Thomas Madden's avatar

Honestly, pretending that launching one war after another in the Middle East will lead to the "restoration of our republic" sounds like something out of George Orwell's novel 1984. If memory serves, the country was endlessly involved in overseas wars in that book, and all citizens were supposed to patriotically support the wars, even though no one knew why they were being fought in the first place . . .just like the US of 2026.

Cankerpuss's avatar

When my fellow Americans spout off about how "free" they are I tell them to try not paying their property taxes and they will then see how free they really are. They look at me like I am a green bug. They have no clue.

William Wallace's avatar

Just the way the NEA and UFT have delivered in lieu of Academics.

Storie Mooser's avatar

You validate my point; #1citizan responsibility in our constitutional republic is to engage in open discourse on matters of state & social order. That responsibility has been massaged away by a hijacking of the entire education system.

Thomas Madden's avatar

This is the Fourth War the US has started in the Middle East since 1991. The last three, in Afghanistan and Iraq, certainly did not further the "restoration of our Republic" you speak of, they were bloody failures. The US isn't "changing course" at all, it is just continuing down the same path of launching one war after another in that region of the world. Trump chose to seize defeat from the jaws of victory: the US was on a great path before he started this war, and it has been headed steeply downhill in the three months since he started it.

Jeff the Original's avatar

And NONE of these bad decisions are a surprise to anyone actually paying attention.

When the leader of the free world says that he's going to lower drug prices by 600% a few times over a couple of months...it demonstrates he's a moron and is surrounded by sychophants who are afraid to correct him.

OF COURSE he's going to make bad decisions and continue to do so...at the risk of a global economic collapse and an almost voluntary abdication of being the world's leader because nobody wants anything to do with this crazy shix posing as "foreign policy".

Cankerpuss's avatar

The Republicans are going to get trounced in November. Trump will spend the last two years of his lame duck presidency fighting back sham impeachment charges. His illegal war in Iran will cost him his legacy and wreck everything he's worked to build. He said himself that he "doesn't think about Americans' financial situation." The man doesn't care.

Ben's avatar
May 23Edited

Finish that statement there chuckles.

What good is financial health when Iran gets a nuke and uses it for nuclear diplomacy to push the world around or worse figures out how to set one off in New York, Tel Aviv, London, Brussels, Berlin, Moscow and Bejing?

Just start reading Clancy novels for the capers.

They have been playing fast and lose in the region for forty years despite what their collection of moronic fan boys believe.

Thomas Madden's avatar

Factually, Iran never had nukes, or a modern delivery system. They might have eventually developed a very primitive, large, heavy, low-yield nuclear device similar to the ones the US used at the end of WW2. The "delivery system" would be a truck. This is very basic stuff. "Nukes in Iran" are just like the "WMD's in Iraq" lie used to justify W. Bush's idiotic invasion and occupation of the country. . .they don't exist.

Ben's avatar
May 24Edited

Thomas they already have a delivery system that can hit parts of Europe and at some point will have one that can hit the US.

They do have a decent engineering University system.

As far as the WMD not found in Iraq think again they found them and burned them along with hundreds of tons of ingredients to make them.

Thomas Madden's avatar

Yeah, I was shocked that he said that. He is not the least bit interested in helping the people of this country anymore: he should resign. He bears no resemblance to the Trump of his first term in office.

Thomas Madden's avatar

Gas costs over $4.50 a gallon, inflation is at a three year high, and American citizens and businesses are suffering. So Trump said

"that he wasn’t thinking about Americans’ finances “even a little bit” as he negotiates with Iran" and “I don’t think about Americans’ financial situation."

There is no appropriate context for that sort of thing: none at all. I he doesn't care about the finances of his own citizens, if he doesn't care about Americans financial situation, than he should RESIGN. This isn't rocket science. It is very basic stuff.

Ben's avatar

Yep, context a nuclear armed Iran will make everything else irrelevant.

You are right it's not rocket science and yet you and many more people don't get it and probably never will living in your safe little bubble.

Thomas Madden's avatar

My heavens, why, if Iran got nuclear weapons, North Korea might follow suit! And Pakistan, and even China and Russia! What a terrible state of affairs that would be!

JohnAZ's avatar

Let us talk about gas for a moment.

You are signing up to the bullshit the MSM uses against Trump. Gas is high? Why? Because the fossil fuels market is so sensitive to supply and demand changes. Trump has screwed up, IMO, by not taking out the rest of Iran and just sitting on his thumbs for weeks now. Iran respects one thing, power, and will make no changes until they are destroyed. Anyone remember Japan where the national hierarchy wanted to continue fighting to the last man, even after having two a bombs dropped on them? Iran is the same sort of zealous stupid as that. Trump has two jobs to do and it frustrates me that he is not getting them done. One, kill the Supreme Leader and his followers and replace them with a secular government, and two, take away the five islands from Iran that control the Gulf now and give them to one of the Gulf states with US backing.

Put the Straits into free passage and the gasoline price will hit $2 a gallon with the glut. Try reading again the Long Emergencynto get a handle on the fossil fuels situation. Panic must be avoided.

BTW, report out today says that more miles will be driven this Memorial Day weekend than ever. Really sounds like gasoline is making a big difference, only if you are the press trying to make issues out of anything they can find.

Inflation, another cooked issue by the press, it has changed from 2.9 percent to 3.9%, totally due to the fossil fuels situation, BFD!!!

Do you really believe that representative districts should be set up by race or ethnicity?

Jeff the Original's avatar

"Trump has screwed up, IMO, by not taking out the rest of Iran"

You are like a guy ready to light up a cigarette while sitting on a pile of oily rags next to a bunch of 1/2 empty gas cans.

At a minimum, Iran will take out as much ME infrastructure as they can from their neighbors which will make the region implode and eventually the global economy. At a maximum, using lessons learned in recent military operations around the world, the US will not be successful in "taking out the rest of Iran" at a catastrophic cost of military members, equipment and prestige. Have you been following how effective the Ukranian drones are against the Russians?

Honestly...do you think this is a video game or something? The enemy is capable, motivated and more sophisticated than you are giving them credit for.

Thomas Madden's avatar

Exactly. The US keeps launching major wars in the Middle East, again, and again, and yet again. . .and pretending that wars never escalate, and blow up out of control. Trump is learning, the hard way, that a war is like a fire: easy to start, but very difficult to end, and wars, just like fires, can potentially escalate out of control, very quickly, and do great damage. Wars are inherently risky and volatile, something to consider BEFORE starting a war that is not absolutely necessary. I am an Army veteran, BTW, I am not afraid of a fight, but believe that when picking a fight, one must be very, very careful.

Jeff the Original's avatar

Military retiree (Navy) here and I was supportive of our other ME operations, but my lesson learned there is that regime change isn't easy...even when we have everything going for us: international coalition, US people support, boots on ground, equipment staged, strategic objectives, etc.

It's like we didn't learn a dang thing.

Lugh's avatar

Well consider the Greater Israel project. They intend to take the best part of the Middle East, the Arabs be damned. What we did makes perfect sense in terms of that, none in terms of our own interests. As the old Trump said, What did we get out of the whole Iraq thing? Why didn't we help ourselves to some of their oil at least?

Now he knows the Truth and who his boss is.

Lugh's avatar

The Gulf States have wised up in the 11th hour. Ditch friendship with the United States and Israel and get in on the ground floor of the New Order. Iran, Russia, and China will protect them. We didn't protect them.

JohnAZ's avatar

Not really. The US has committed only air warfare, and has gotten control of the airspace over Iran and the gulf. That is why I am scratching my head over Trump.

A yuge question, have the Iranians built a bomb? Is that why Trump is being so cautious.

You under estimate the US and overestimate the Iran capabilities. Why should I think that Iran is so powerful? One reason. Hence the nuke guess.

Lugh's avatar

They could take out every one of our ships today if they wanted too. They have the missiles and the algorithms to do it. They've been studying our capacities for decades. We know so little about them. A recipe for defeat as Sun Tzu said long ago.

But they are very cautious and don't want to make things worse. Wisdom. If only we could learn from them.

Jeff the Original's avatar

I'm not sure about all the ships, but certainly they could take out a few and damage others.

You're right though...they have very little incentive to do that because we would probably respond with nukes.

They're content to outwait us because the world is blaming Trump for this situation and time is NOT on his side.

His "we almost have an agreement" can't work forever and prices will continue to rise. The political pressure on Trump is a lot and getting more so all of the time.

Jeff the Original's avatar

I honestly think you should research your side of the argument a little more. There are some really good military & middle east experts out there stating the obvious...that Iran can and will take out their neighbor's infrastructure if the US starts attacking theirs. The US does NOT have the capability to conduct offensive operations and protect the entire Middle East for an extended period of time. Hence...Trump will have single-handedly caused an economic meltdown of the Middle East which, without a doubt, will impact the entire world's economy.

I am a 30 year military retiree....I know and understand our capabilities, but probably more importantly, our limitations when deployed overseas and in a military situation where the enemy is ready for a scorched earth policy that they know will be blamed on Trump since it was his actions that precipitated things.

Everybody already hates Iran...do you think they give a flip about how they will be perceived?

They are the enemy but that doesn't mean that the laws of gravity go away because Trump says so. He's in a quagmire and cannot stay in this forever...something's gotta give.

JohnAZ's avatar

Okay, Jeff, what was or is the alternative, to allow Iran to continue and enter the nuke club with its history of nutjob zealotry. Its history of creating war in the ME is second to none.

A question, if the Iran folks have so much power they could wipe out the fleets patrolling there, why haven’t they. The Centcom folks have blockaded the Iran ports successfully. Where are all those weapons that are going to blow up all the ships?

Lugh is losing his mind trying to become a reporter for the NYT or maybe Al Jazeera. His claims are baseless.

Ben's avatar

Lugh is a crypto Muslim always has been.

Jeff the Original's avatar

If this was easy situation to resolve...I think it would have been done already.

Trump should have never torn up the agreement that Obama made. He gained nothing by that and lost leverage and credibility. Who wants to make a deal with someone who just rips them up? How do they know the next POTUS won't rip up the agreement now? You may not like it...but that's common sense....even if we're dealing with an unscrupulous lot like the Iranians.

Like the other ME invasions, we should have garnered international and NATO support. To get their support though....you would have to have a plan. Not to mention...that you would be going to the countries who you've been dissing for the past decade. I'm guessing because of Trump being Trump...that was going to be a hard sell. Even so...at least he could have said he tried.

I think it's pretty darn clear that due to our success with the Venezuela campaign...Trump believed we could decapitate the leadership, install Ahmadinejad (with some financial incentives of some sort) and be done with it. There was no Plan B and I think it's pretty charitable calling Plan A much of a plan other than the tactical one developed by the military.

Like I said...there's no easy solution to the Iranian issue, but boy...I think there are some really bad strategy moves that were out there and I think we, unfortunately, took one.

Ben's avatar

Are you stupid enough to believe that is not their plan with or without an American presence in the middle east?

Have you not followed History or understand the endless war between Shiites and Sunnis and their wars against everyone else?

Jeff the Original's avatar

What I’m pointing out is that we need a far better plan… Or maybe we just need a plan rather than flying by the seat of our pants and hoping things work out.

Instead of dissing, our NATO partners… Perhaps we should’ve brought them on board with a strategic plan that they could buy into instead of just going ahead and bombing and then asking them for their help. Who wants to help a country that is not seeming like it has a plan that will work?

JohnAZ's avatar

Our NATO “allies” deserve to be dissed. One of the items that the MAGA Revolution is addressing is to put USA socialism back in the trash can where it deserves to be. Europe is socialist, along with Canada. Trump wants nothing to do with any of them. Europe and Canada are the biggest kids trying to knock the US off its ”king of the mountain” perch, even more than China. They can take their arrogance and shove it, IMO.

Jeff the Original's avatar

Those NATO allies died next to us in Afghanistan and Iraq...as they supported us after 9/11.

You guys have, over the decades, created a very long list of enemies to include the Dems. However....somehow Russia is no longer on that list. I wonder why.

You've lost your bearings and forgotten what got us to be #1 in the world and it wasn't betraying allies...it was by being a good one.

Ben's avatar

Better to let them understand the stakes when their oil supply runs out.

Jeff the Original's avatar

Remember you said that...because I believe it will be the US and, unfortunately, the rest of the world who will understand the stakes when thinking bombs are the best tool of foreign policy and it turns out they're not.

Grandpa shouting from the porch might sound like he knows better, but we're finding out that he really doesn't...in fact...he was clueless.

William Foster's avatar

We can build drones too.

Jeff the Original's avatar

Yes...we have a pretty robust capability, but how many do we have over there in the Middle East? I'm guessing that Iran outnumbers ours by a lot.

All Iran has to do is make it costly to gain ground...the US has to put boots on ground, move them (i.e. expose them) and resupply (further exposure) them because before we can leave the country...because they need to achieve regime change, right?

This is a disaster just waiting to happen for our military.

Military Retiree

JohnAZ's avatar

The US has to take five islands and hold them, that’s it. The Gulf is ours.

I believe Trump was sending Marines over to do exactly that and then just quit?

Why? It is not because Iran was going to stop them. I put out the idea that Iran may have a nuke now.

Jeff the Original's avatar

"The gulf is ours"

Again...I have been watching multiple podcasts with very knowledgeable political and military experts saying a couple of things to the points of your post: 1) Taking the island isn't as easy as holding it and our troops would be at a fix and small location where hundreds of missiles and drones could be sent to attack them. Maybe we could knock down 90% of them? I'm guessing their supply of these is far greater than our supply of anti-missile/drone weapons. 2) You are talking about oil facilities (I'm guessing) when you bring up the islands, but those are not key geographic locations to open up the strait. There's like 200 miles of Iranian coastline on the Strait of Hormuz that can fire on any ship passing through there.

Not to mention that the threat of mining is already there and will require mine clearing operations which are very slow and make appealing targets for the Iranians.

Like I keep saying...if this was so easy...it would have been done long ago.

William Foster's avatar

Most of Iran is uninhabitable. I wouldn't worry about boots on the ground except maybe Kharg island.

William Foster's avatar

The regime change will have to come from within. Airpower is good at destroying infrastructure, military equipment, and industrial production. Iran is not Iraq. Tehran sits between a mountain range and the Caspian sea. Only way to insert troops would be airborne and mevhanizing those forces would be very difficult. There would be no Dunkirk to rescue them if they were pinned down. Trump is not going to put men on Iran's mainland, period.

The reason my replies are short is that I have other things to do during my day.

JohnAZ's avatar

Yes. Plus four more near the straits. The war is not over yet.

Jeff the Original's avatar

Your posts are so short that they welcome people to fill in the rest.

Do you think we can achieve regime change without boots on ground? If so, on what basis do you think this to be true? I supported ODS and OIF and I think those wars, even though decisively won with ground forces, demonstrated that regime change is difficult, costly and places our military members at great risk...especially if we're talking Iran.

UncleBob9's avatar

"Boots on the ground." Jesus Christ. When you mean "invade," say "invade."

Jeff the Original's avatar

That's your comment? Wow...ok...invade it is then. When the Iranian drones home in on our troops...I'm guessing that distinction just won't matter.

elysianfield's avatar

" Panic must be avoided."

If not now, when?

JohnAZ's avatar

When 50% of gas pumps have yellow bags on the handle, that is when. Like 1973 and 78. Right now, the oil boys are keeping up with demand.

I love to ask, how much money would you spend to avoid having to walk 20 miles? $50, $20? How about $5, the price of a gallon of gas.

I would send out a warning though. This war has shown how close we are to the supply capacity available now. If I owned a 8 mile/gallon RV or big V8, I would be thinking about down-sizing.

David "JC" Penny's avatar

My RV gets 9 mpg with a tailwind! And we'll still do our 5000-mile road trip across the country this Summer. In lieu of discussing the economic reality regarding the cost of gas vs. the chaos of gas.... I'm trying to square your circle here:

"Put the Straits into free passage and the gasoline price will hit $2 a gallon with the glut."

"This war has shown how close we are to the supply capacity available now. "

How does it work that we could have $2 gas with a glut while concurrently facing a supply capacity problem? Is the former referencing the meal-through-the-snake phenomenon and the latter the finite nature of oil?

JohnAZ's avatar

The oil tankers are piled up, sitting, waiting at the straits. Once released, they will glut the supply chains. The Long Emergency will be caused when supply cannot match demand, acknowledging the finiteness of the resource. The war has temporarily dropped the supply, and doubled the price. A good warning. The supply will fill back in with a glut when the stupidity stops. The glut will be temporary as demand and supply match back up.

A weird thing is that the USA does not need oil from the Gulf. It is trying to unclog the supply lines going to the East Asia region. Look up the Malaccan straits for another choke point. Who is going to protect all the choke points so that trade goes unimpeded if the USA Navywithdraws from that task. I remember that Japan started the Pacific war to unstick its oil pipelines.

David "JC" Penny's avatar

OK. Fair enough. I don't think the oversupply you forecast upon opening will materialize at the global level for a variety of reasons, but we agree on the principle.

As for the Strait of Malacca, it's a choke point with alternate routes like the Suez and Panama canals - not a doorway.

It will be interesting to see what the US producers do when they lose their current demand. That'll be an equally violent shock to the system.

Alan Devincentis's avatar

Inflation is not at a three year high.

Thomas Madden's avatar

U.S. inflation recently hit a three-year high of 3.8% year-over-year. Driven primarily by an 18% spike in energy costs and an associated 2.8 surge in gas prices due to the conflict with Iran, this inflationary pressure is outpacing wage growth and significantly increasing household expenses.

dbriz's avatar

A technical issue. There could be a minor difference depending on year and month one begins the search. His point, right or wrong is irrelevant. The voters believe inflation is ongoing and gas and food prices are going to continue to rise.

If the Pubs want to campaign on “but inflation was .01 higher/lower under Biden for a month or so”, see how many votes that gets them.

Trump botched a winning hand on behalf of Miriam Adelson and friends and the Pubs are going to pay for it.

Cankerpuss's avatar

The voters don't give a shit about Iran and Israel. All they see is that what once cost them $2.89 is now costing them $4.69 and it is affecting their wallets. Many apologists on this blog will say they need to suck it up and support the global good by wasting Iran. Doesn't matter what the apologists think, what matters is what the voters think and the voters are pissed for having to pay nearly double for the same product. I am one of them.

dbriz's avatar

You are half right. The cost of living is number uno to the voters.

This agreed does not mean they “don’t give a shit” about the war. When 60% of the voters oppose the war it’s got their attention.

And despite bipartisan accusations concerning how dumb the average voter is, they aren’t so dumb they can’t equate:

bombing Iran= closed Strait of Hormuz=gas and energy prices up 50% and rising.

Sue Don Nim's avatar

Well, you wanted a collapse to reset things, high fuel prices and fuel shortages will hasten that, wouldn't it? Or since you don't like wars n' stuff, it's more likely you left out 5 words from your "It needs to collapse to reset" statement. Those words are "but not in my lifetime".

Cankerpuss's avatar

"it's more likely you left out 5 words"

Don't put words in my mouth, Sue Don Nim. I didn't say that and I never intended to say that. I have never said I want a collapse. Re-read my comment. My comment said that I believe the only way this mess gets resolved is through a collapse of the government. I didn't say I wanted that or favored that. Leviathan is too massive, too corrupt, the cancer is too deep to purge by a vote for the Republicans.

A collapse in our government doesn't have to result in Civil War, death and destruction. You remember Czechoslovakia? That country is now the Czech Republic and Slovakia and, from what I can tell, both nations move along peacefully. The nation separated without war, death and destruction. At some point we the people are going to have to look at the current situation of our government and find a way to put it down. Voting won't do it and you know it. The very fact that you frequent this blog tells me you know that the system is broken and cannot be fixed by Republican voters.

No, I don't like wars. I don't like anything that results in the death and suffering for innocent people. Do you? Are you one of the war humpers like JohnAZ who relish and get your jollies off of our nation bombing another into submission?

But you keep voting for those elected "representatives." It's certainly served you well up to this point, hasn't it?

UncleBob9's avatar

Bars? Or are you just too lazy to write out "Republicans?"

Lugh's avatar

He said Pubs not Bars. They're not the same thing. A Pub is a place of edification. A bar is a place of degradation.

Cankerpuss's avatar

A bar is also a long tubular piece of metal.

dbriz's avatar

Ha! A laugh is always good in these times. Take your used Funk and Wagnalls to the couch, lie down and have a wet dream.

Mun’s Frolick's avatar

The empty, spineless windbags on both sides are to blame. Look at the Senate — because Trump endorsed Paxton over an establishment figure (Cornyn), Thune shuts the Senate down for recess. There are no principled figures on either side. They are all flatulent bladders of wind, weathercocks turning with the wind of public opinion. The coup happened long, long ago. What we’re seeing now is just end days.

JohnAZ's avatar

I wish they would reflect public opinion, not the Deep State freaks that want power consolidation to protect their gimme game.

Mun’s Frolick's avatar

Loaves and fishes has been the game since Jefferson took the White House in the “second American revolution” of 1800. It’s been ceaseless pandering and power-mongering ever since — practiced by both parties, who Walter Karp aptly labeled “indispensable enemies.” There’s no return from this. America is nothing but a republic of debt and dunces.

Edward Thomas Brady's avatar

Thune shuts down the Senate for "recess" but keeps Trump from making recess appointments. We only need 27 votes to remove Thune as "leader". Let's do it!!!

Cankerpuss's avatar

What is this "we" talk? Are you a Senator?

UncleBob9's avatar

Thune got the gig because they couldn't get enough people behind a better candidate, plus McConnell's sack o' Chinese cash probably played a role.

Mun’s Frolick's avatar

Dream on, Rip Van Winkle.

Liber8or's avatar

Sigmund Freud said you can not reason with a sick mind. The Lefty-Lefts are sick.

Danimal28's avatar

Puhleeze keep the spotlight on the criminal govt officials in my great Minnesota!!!! This, like California - their politicos are totally in sync - is a wonderful state run by a handful of Bolsheviks. If you come here exit MSP immediately and house yourselves outside of a 30 mile radius of it. Real folks will feed you heavenly venison backstraps....

Lugh's avatar

Yeah, the Somalis have been shamelessly used by these Democrat savages. In and of themselves, they're fucking fine. Why not bring in millions more, right?

JohnAZ's avatar

Hmmm, could it be the Dems want to perpetuate central government just because of the corruption and crime abounds that they profit from?

Danimal28's avatar

That's all they have, brother.

Steve (recovering lawyer)'s avatar

Is it not obvious that the same two factors motivating the left's death rattle, emanating from the throats of the anti-Trump crowd, are shared with the dying mullahs and assorted mullah-adjacent tyrants in Iran? First, they understand that, should they lose their grip on power, there will be consequences ranging from death to imprisonment to banishment. They played for keeps and should their game come to and end, so will they. Second, they know that their income depends on retaining their hold on power, and they have been watching in increasing horror while that income is slowly but surely reduced and if current efforts are successful, essentially eliminated. So it's power and money, money and power; the self-licking ice cream cone of tyrannical government where the insiders get to keep what others have worked to create and simultaneously keep everyone not one of them locked out.

JohnAZ's avatar

Celebrity worship, stupidity, apathy and the gimme mentality make a scary group that is exploited by the Democrat elite.

Rosemary B's avatar

These people, ..... these people.

Mental cases all of them.

It is pretty inconvenient living among them.

Howard Skillington's avatar

Kudos to our host for keeping track of all of these malefactors. Successful prosecution of any of them is a fine thing. I doubt that a critical mass of them can be eliminated, but sincerely hope I’m wrong.

As for the imminent death of the Democratic party, I’m old enough to have seen each party at Death’s Door several times by now and they always make a miraculous recovery, if for no other reason than the voters’ revulsion at their opponent. The incumbents always wear out their welcome by Midterms, and voter amnesia is eternal.

I understand that we are no longer permitted to use the word that rhymes with Schmuniparty, but the fact remains that their opposition is largely confined to things like abortion and gun rights. Those hot button issues are essential for both squads – red meat for their supporters that enable us to think of the parties as quite distinct. But that Good Cop/Bad Cop routine is shelved when it comes to the big stuff, like perpetual wars and deficit spending.

As we saw another Congressional seat purchased this past week, we must remember that our visible government does not control the world we live in. In his book The Power Elite, C. Wright Mills described United States senators as “middle managers.” When, after leaving office, W. Bush was asked what most surprised him about the presidency, he said “how little power I had.”

President Trump desperately wishes to escape Netanyahu’s War, but matters about which he doesn’t give a damn hold him captive. At the moment the Elephants and Donkeys are ruining us both domestically and abroad. The bankers who benefit in all circumstances are nonpartisan.

JustMeAgain's avatar

Massey losing was truly a tragedy. Shows to go you!

dbriz's avatar

Two thoughts:

1. There are some crazy anomalies in the totals. The kind the Trumpsters noted in Georgia and elsewhere but seen quite sanguine about here.

2. Anyone paying minimal attention cannot fail to note that AIPAC and friends spent in excess of 30+ million to defame Massie. One congressional district. Which brings national attention to the lengths they will go to maintain their power over our national government.

Howard Skillington's avatar

Not long before the election Massie polled two third of the votes. That suddenly reversed in the last few days. Whether that was due to money and marketing or vote tampering, the election was stolen, either way.

Lugh's avatar

People are saying that he didn't support the SAVE act. Is this true? If so, a blot on the record of an otherwise great man. Not only did he stand up against the Dark Powers of this world, but he built his own home with his own hands. How many "representatives" could do that?

Howard Skillington's avatar

How many "representatives" could find their ass with both hands?

JohnAZ's avatar

Just like teachers, they are victims of the Left’s stupidification program.

Howard Skillington's avatar

Tragedies are natural occurrences that can't be prevented. Atrocities are purposely committed by evildoers.

Cankerpuss's avatar

American politics are a big pendulum swinging back and forth between the Democrats and the Republicans. The people, in the mean time, sit with their thumbs up their asses wondering why nothing ever changes.

See Susie's post above. It's a good indication of the sorry mental state of the American voters.

"Voter Amnesia." Love the term.

mitchell delmar's avatar

As much as we may salivate in anticipation of a “Lefty-left” barbecue and seeing our favorite dishes served up at grand jury, this isn’t simply about an appetite for schadenfreude - this is necessary. Our very future as a constitutional republic depends on justice being served.

Regrettably, this comeuppance is arriving late to our nation’s table, but not so late that we can’t salvage the meal. I’ll take my dish served cold, rather than not at all.

Mitch's avatar

One big difference between the Democrat looting machine and the mob, is that members of the mob would maintain silence despite expected imprisonment. This crew is going to flip like pancakes on their superiors, making it much easier to roll up the whole gang.

JohnAZ's avatar

Mitch, I would suggest you (and everyone) watch the Sean Hannity interviews with Ex-Mob boss Michael Franzese. I do believe we have no idea of how much of America is controlled by the Mob. He does finger the Biden Mob as part of it.

Mitch's avatar

I'll check it out. I thought the Mafia was done for the most part, replaced by the DNC.

JohnAZ's avatar

Ha. Your point is valid though, the Mob has competition now as all their crime, minus dugs and trafficking, has now been legalized.

How about an investigation of the ties between the Deep State and the Chinese/Mexican cartels?

Mitch's avatar

Same games, new players. The trafficking has been taxpayer funded via "NGO's" and Mexican cartels. China has managed to get a share of the drug money with help of their DNC friends and the "harm reduction" complex.