Jasun Horsley is the author of many books, including Seen & Not Seen, Prisoner of Infinity, 16 Maps of Hell, and Big Mother, which examine how popular culture, politics, occultism, science, and pseudo-spirituality all overlap on a covert, multigenerational social-engineering continuum that includes secret societies, intelligence agencies, and organized crime networks.
Demons were the first to acknowledge the divine power of Christ. Rituals of sacrifice riddled Babylon, and were engaged in by Israelites. The Valley of Ben-hinnom, explicitly named as a place of child sacrifice by Jeremiah, and of Baal worship, was destroyed by Josiah, a righteous king. I find it a stretch to consider this demon worship a purely a social construct. In Acts 16, Paul cast a demon out from a slave girl, who was a fortune teller. Her owners were angry, as she'd lost the power to foretell, thus losing them their advantage. The powers of demons are documented in the Bible, and it'd be dangerous not to recognize and guard against those powers.
Hi Jasun, What heard that really drew me in was your mentioning about things becoming overly complicated, overly centralized, until they fall apart. I have always known about this factor, and felt it deep in my gut, often wondering why others did not understand its importance. But then, I am a history buff and also write speculative stories in the different eras that I have studied. (17th, 18th, and 1920s USA and England, mostly). I see a pattern, and therefore have hope that we will not lose our western culture completely because of these idiot politicians everywhere. As Martin Armstrong says, "history repeats it self because human nature never changes." We are at that moment, of things falling apart. I hope I live long enough to see the people of these God forsaken countries rebuild. I have great respect for our ancestors of many centuries, who built this world, especially our Judeo-Christian culture. I will put you in my Episcopal/Catholic prayers, for even though I am not a regular church goer, I take great comfort in the ritual of the church. We are sorely missing some traditional rituals in our lives. Ok! sorry for such a long winded response. Thanks for your thoughts. Cheers, Celeste Plowden
MY GRANDFATHER EASED OUT OF GERMANY WELL AHEAD OF WW2.
MOVED TO RURAL AMERICA, THEN MOVED EVEN FARTHER INTO RURAL AMERICA. THEY CAME TO THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE AND BUILT A MILITARY BASE, TOOK HIS LAND AND DESTROYED HIS LIFE. THEN SENT HIM A DRAFT NOTICE.
SPAIN IS NOT NEAR FAR ENOUGH AWAY FROM WHAT'S COMING.
To each her own. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of Kunstler fans who love hearing the two rivers waltz, who find it hauntingly beautiful. Many of us also love classical music.
tend to agree, except obviously I found the questions difficult so can't say they were great - but it is my own fault for volunteering to talk about something current when I really have no interest in current affairs; I was def. floundering in the middle segment
I think it's a mixed bag, Upstart. Not everything resonated with me but on the whole this podcast was Insightful and Thought-provoking, exactly the space we need today. Enjoy what you can and ignore the rest.
You can take or leave Horsley, for what he's worth. Life is complicated and difficult. Choices must be made, regardless of what they are. The fact that there are so many choices to be made nowadays makes life more difficult, some would say a never-ending spiral to the bottom. You remain the boss of your life, however. As a "truth seeker" I applaud him. As for "reading about Jesus", that's his choice.
What is not debatable is that the Romans, conscientious record keepers, left us no record of the existence if a Jesus of Nazareth, much less a trial of such a person presided over by Pontius Pilate.
sounds like you haven't done much reading on it, or thinking about it outside of the new atheistic anti-Christian mindset; JC was hardly a big deal at the time; there are no records of ANY Pilate executions AFAIK, tho he existed & would certainly have conducted them. Plus, there certainly are mentions, tho few, of Crestos and his pesky followers.
Even if one concedes the existence of Jesus, his surviving teachings were minimal, beyond the centuries-old Golden Rule. Nearly all of today's fundamental Christian doctrine, including most of the hateful stuff, traces back to Paul. What's left for Jesus - do you believe in his divinity?
Oh how deep this goes. Unreal going thru archives of Ep’s foundation, mags, tv and who/what he was funding, including non-profits, med, tech, priv/religious schools and academia.tv. Same peep and his fans still running it all today??? I’d suggest Ms. NW’s past seems to be in same circles as edge gang and others in m-a-h-a grp.
And to JH, there’s plenty evidence out there of adremo harvest, and even old pattents of attempted synthetic version… it’s also been deepicted in old books, movies and historical art. It’s a hard pill to swallow! there’s relatively recent articles on similar things in Chyna btwn organ harvest, fetal powders for Vit and found proper chem name of it (with ages) for sale on alibaba years back. :( dark times.
Nice discussion. I’m not paying attention either and don’t expect we will ever get a straight story behind any of these happenings. Game A or B, (or timeline 1 or 2, matrix 1 or 2) I agree is changing of the guards, and both seem cruel.
Trying to enjoy what’s in front of me and not worry about what I can’t control. Look Forward to 1 podcast a week these days, COJ. This week was a bonus :) with JHK.
I tuned out over Horsley’s apparent estimation of Epstein as a free agent of some sort.
Ghislaine’s father, Robert, was MI6. There is little evidence that Epstein had any particular talent or expertise for investing or managing money.
It seems clear that he was supported and groomed to draw important people into a honey trap in order to provide his handlers with the means to control them through blackmail, which explains the fact that the material was not used by Epstein himself, and that it continues to be under the control of the puppet masters.
hardly what I said; i always assume intelligence, but unfortunately the facts were not at my fingertips; you can hear Steve Snider do an excellent job where I failed in firming up JE's role continuing Maxwell's legacy of intell. work: https://childrenofjob.substack.com/p/jobcast-79-creeping-transhumanism
Could somebody provide links/references unpacking the diametrically opposed "A" and "B" scenarios/strategies towards the future of our country (the USA) specifically and of humanity more generally?
Demons were the first to acknowledge the divine power of Christ. Rituals of sacrifice riddled Babylon, and were engaged in by Israelites. The Valley of Ben-hinnom, explicitly named as a place of child sacrifice by Jeremiah, and of Baal worship, was destroyed by Josiah, a righteous king. I find it a stretch to consider this demon worship a purely a social construct. In Acts 16, Paul cast a demon out from a slave girl, who was a fortune teller. Her owners were angry, as she'd lost the power to foretell, thus losing them their advantage. The powers of demons are documented in the Bible, and it'd be dangerous not to recognize and guard against those powers.
Thiel is posing as a Catholic. Made me laugh. So is J.D. Vance. Mmmm, the plot thickens.
Hi Jasun, What heard that really drew me in was your mentioning about things becoming overly complicated, overly centralized, until they fall apart. I have always known about this factor, and felt it deep in my gut, often wondering why others did not understand its importance. But then, I am a history buff and also write speculative stories in the different eras that I have studied. (17th, 18th, and 1920s USA and England, mostly). I see a pattern, and therefore have hope that we will not lose our western culture completely because of these idiot politicians everywhere. As Martin Armstrong says, "history repeats it self because human nature never changes." We are at that moment, of things falling apart. I hope I live long enough to see the people of these God forsaken countries rebuild. I have great respect for our ancestors of many centuries, who built this world, especially our Judeo-Christian culture. I will put you in my Episcopal/Catholic prayers, for even though I am not a regular church goer, I take great comfort in the ritual of the church. We are sorely missing some traditional rituals in our lives. Ok! sorry for such a long winded response. Thanks for your thoughts. Cheers, Celeste Plowden
Fascinating interview! A LOT to think about and process.
Thank you both for it!
Very interesting interview. Jasun's comments cross all eras of human existence. it gave me a bit of hope keeping those thoughts in mind.
Good to know; wonder which thoughts?
ON A SIDE NOTE.
MY GRANDFATHER EASED OUT OF GERMANY WELL AHEAD OF WW2.
MOVED TO RURAL AMERICA, THEN MOVED EVEN FARTHER INTO RURAL AMERICA. THEY CAME TO THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE AND BUILT A MILITARY BASE, TOOK HIS LAND AND DESTROYED HIS LIFE. THEN SENT HIM A DRAFT NOTICE.
SPAIN IS NOT NEAR FAR ENOUGH AWAY FROM WHAT'S COMING.
Saying the two rivers waltz is great music is like saying "Dick and Jane" 1st grade reader,
is wonderful fiction. Or stick figures on a canvas is beautiful art. Give me a break, J.H.
I'm a classical musician.
Huh?
To each her own. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of Kunstler fans who love hearing the two rivers waltz, who find it hauntingly beautiful. Many of us also love classical music.
It's a heart-wrenching and exquisite folk melody. The universe is filled with different levels of beauty.
But what's it have to do with me (I assume I am the "JH")?
Dunno.
never mind, must be James Howard
I love it.
great questions jhk. answers from mr. horsley...not so much.
tend to agree, except obviously I found the questions difficult so can't say they were great - but it is my own fault for volunteering to talk about something current when I really have no interest in current affairs; I was def. floundering in the middle segment
Horsley. Attention to spelling when it’s a person’s name, please.
Q revisited, nitpicker extraordinaire.
Do you have to take LSD to not find this loony?
I think it's a mixed bag, Upstart. Not everything resonated with me but on the whole this podcast was Insightful and Thought-provoking, exactly the space we need today. Enjoy what you can and ignore the rest.
You can take or leave Horsley, for what he's worth. Life is complicated and difficult. Choices must be made, regardless of what they are. The fact that there are so many choices to be made nowadays makes life more difficult, some would say a never-ending spiral to the bottom. You remain the boss of your life, however. As a "truth seeker" I applaud him. As for "reading about Jesus", that's his choice.
The historical context of occultism/satanism
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oIUYP4PWVHI
In jinn we trust
A truth-seeker who spends his time "reading about Jesus." Hmmm...
you see a contradiction?
Is the Pope Catholic?
debatable
What is not debatable is that the Romans, conscientious record keepers, left us no record of the existence if a Jesus of Nazareth, much less a trial of such a person presided over by Pontius Pilate.
sounds like you haven't done much reading on it, or thinking about it outside of the new atheistic anti-Christian mindset; JC was hardly a big deal at the time; there are no records of ANY Pilate executions AFAIK, tho he existed & would certainly have conducted them. Plus, there certainly are mentions, tho few, of Crestos and his pesky followers.
Even if one concedes the existence of Jesus, his surviving teachings were minimal, beyond the centuries-old Golden Rule. Nearly all of today's fundamental Christian doctrine, including most of the hateful stuff, traces back to Paul. What's left for Jesus - do you believe in his divinity?
You know mooslems revere him to and look forward to a 2nd visit.
There were no moose in the middle east two thousand years ago.
Oh how deep this goes. Unreal going thru archives of Ep’s foundation, mags, tv and who/what he was funding, including non-profits, med, tech, priv/religious schools and academia.tv. Same peep and his fans still running it all today??? I’d suggest Ms. NW’s past seems to be in same circles as edge gang and others in m-a-h-a grp.
And to JH, there’s plenty evidence out there of adremo harvest, and even old pattents of attempted synthetic version… it’s also been deepicted in old books, movies and historical art. It’s a hard pill to swallow! there’s relatively recent articles on similar things in Chyna btwn organ harvest, fetal powders for Vit and found proper chem name of it (with ages) for sale on alibaba years back. :( dark times.
Nice discussion. I’m not paying attention either and don’t expect we will ever get a straight story behind any of these happenings. Game A or B, (or timeline 1 or 2, matrix 1 or 2) I agree is changing of the guards, and both seem cruel.
Trying to enjoy what’s in front of me and not worry about what I can’t control. Look Forward to 1 podcast a week these days, COJ. This week was a bonus :) with JHK.
I tuned out over Horsley’s apparent estimation of Epstein as a free agent of some sort.
Ghislaine’s father, Robert, was MI6. There is little evidence that Epstein had any particular talent or expertise for investing or managing money.
It seems clear that he was supported and groomed to draw important people into a honey trap in order to provide his handlers with the means to control them through blackmail, which explains the fact that the material was not used by Epstein himself, and that it continues to be under the control of the puppet masters.
hardly what I said; i always assume intelligence, but unfortunately the facts were not at my fingertips; you can hear Steve Snider do an excellent job where I failed in firming up JE's role continuing Maxwell's legacy of intell. work: https://childrenofjob.substack.com/p/jobcast-79-creeping-transhumanism
Spiritual is good vs evil(inversion)
KISS. Everything else is a perversion…
Could somebody provide links/references unpacking the diametrically opposed "A" and "B" scenarios/strategies towards the future of our country (the USA) specifically and of humanity more generally?
https://substack.com/home/post/p-169399439 and: https://www.gameb.wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page