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Old Gyrene's avatar

"But the news media doesn’t really report on anything. It opines. It spins. It constructs story-lines for advantage, it gaslights, it perverts the consensus about reality out of existence, it just plain lies."

Once again, Mr. K put the full truth succinctly.

My first awareness of just how bad "the Media" is, was when I came home from my first tour in Vietnam in the Summer of '66.

What I was reading in the local paper and seeing on television, had nothing to do with the facts on the ground — and the misreporting only got worse as the years passed.

Trying to talk to my (ex) friends and neighbors was hopeless. I had to be lying about what was going on over there because "the newspaper" and "the TV" didn't lie.

I gave up after a week and just went back to Camp Pendleton three weeks early.

I was 19 years old at the time and my last comment to a particularly obnoxious neighbor ended with "...you, and the horse you rode in on", and I've never regretted saying that.

Almost 60 years later and that is still my basic response to the nay-sayers.

They do not deserve what our millions of war dead have earned for them.

Maria's avatar

God bless you for your service! I had the exact same experience. My family is from Cuba and I remember having to listen to idiot liberals tell me how great communism is. It was maddening to have first hand knowledge and these idiots believed the tv instead of eye witnesses. I gave up. I just leave the room now.

Carl L. McWilliams's avatar

As you know, all of the news media (conservative radio included) doesn’t really report on anything, in fact their reporting is Orwellian propaganda - broadcast to make we the sheeple calm. A glaring example is the Buck & Travis Radio Show, (replaced Rush Limbaugh). I call their 3 hour radio show: "the Overton Window Radio Hour".

Carl L. McWilliams's avatar

The US Constitution Is Now a Suicide Pact:

The United States is rapidly heading toward a future that will require a decision from political authorities and elites of all types. The choice will be between peaceful radical decentralization—possibly including secession—on the one hand. On the other hand will be a ratcheting up of coercion and enforced “unity” to ensure political centralization.

The speed with which American polities proceed toward this situation will depend on two factors, both of which are already at play and contribute to ongoing talk of “national divorce” in the United States. The two factors are:

1. A growing ideological and geographic bifurcation between populations.

2. Growing centralization of state power which raises the stakes for competing cultural and ideological groups.

By Ryan McMaken

Mises Institute

May 25, 2026

Castelletto's avatar

Interesting that the group psychosis goes back that far. I don't know how you've stood it all these years. (I was captured by the group think until about the late 1990's.)

So it turns out the TDS is really the latest manifestation of a longstanding pattern of disturbance. In fact, I think it was Charles Krauthammer who first coined the phrase as Bush Derangement Syndrome.

There is already an ICD code for it, incidentally. It's really just a form of Delusional Disorder, a kind of encapsulated craziness in an otherwise sane and functional individual, like a woman that remains convinced that her therapist is in love with her, contrary to all available data, or a man who thinks one of his limbs doesn't belong on him. I've seen both.

UncleBob9's avatar

On behalf of my late dad, also a Marine, Semper Fi.

Old Gyrene's avatar

Thank you.

A big Semper Fi to your Dad, in Marine Heaven with Chesty Puller.

Jeff Keener's avatar

Right on, Gyrene!

Jim Johnson's avatar

good on ya'. you are correct. they are the entitled portion of society. f em. TY for the VN service.

Gwennie's avatar

Thank you for your service to our country, Old Gyrene.

William's avatar

Thank you greatly for your service!!! Son, grandson of 2 Marine officers who served front lines. Camp Pendleton Semper Fi! 🪖

kim sayer's avatar

this is mass trauma people have incurred. the mob or majority have reached the tyrannizing state....the 'last man' as nietzhe said. and jesus also said it, but the church is not his representative, it is Pauls. the Nemesis, the Narcissis, the Counterfiet co Opter of the Way the Truth and the Life. you have walked a tight and beautiful path. good for you.

Mike Pflum's avatar

I would DEARLY love to believe every word of your commentary but I fear the numbers within the current American citizenry don't bode well for us. Tragically, America has a very poor memory and may well value the inconvenience they are suffering at the pump and in the market too much to stand up when called upon to do so. I'm deeply concerned that the brave souls we honor and charish today would be entirely disappointed to see the diminished value of the freedom they died to preserve. Hope I'm wrong. Hope Trump has an Ace up his sleeve, and there are enough of us left to back his play.

JohnAZ's avatar

What inconvenience at the pump? Please do not believe the BS in the press.

Gas has doubled, BFD, it still costs very little to move from place to place. A those poor businesses? They take the increased cost off their taxes. I will agree, if you own a gas hog, you are pissed right now, but you made the purchase decision. If doubling the cost of fueling an RV is a big problem, maybe another form of leisure is in order? I owned one for a year or so during Covid and understand what sticker shock gas prices can be, BUT it is your choice. Sell it and join Hotels.com.

JDaveF's avatar

If you'd ever run a business, you'd know that "taking the increased cost off your taxes" means you get a discount, not that anything rising in cost is free.

dbriz's avatar

“The full inflation bill from an oil shock does not arrive on the day oil moves.

It arrives roughly six months later.

That is because companies do not raise prices the morning after a barrel ticks up. They watch, they wait, they hope, they hedge, they argue with their boards, and eventually they pass the cost through, because the alternative is to eat the margin and explain the missing earnings to a hedge fund whose patience expired sometime during the Carter administration.

Reuters noted that several Wall Street economists have been modeling a delayed pass-through from the recent crude spike into U.S. headline inflation through the second half of 2026, which is a very polite way of saying the bill is already in the mail.

You do not get to refuse delivery on inflation. You can argue with the postman, but the envelope still gets opened.

The cruel part is that even if oil falls today, the part of the bill already in the mail is not coming back.”

Charley Garcia

Substack

JohnAZ's avatar

The stock market looks six months ahead. What do they know, 50000+ that we do not?

Liquid Len's avatar

Come on John, the stock market is unrelated to the real world of business, its a Casio for wealth preservation. And it's not your's or my wealth preservation because if you don't hold it you don't own it. Look into the 'The Great Taking'. Essentially means that "When the music stops there will be no chairs for the Plebes.

I found this breakdown somewhere and wrote it down for future reference. Sorry, but I can't remember the source.

The top 1% own 50% of the stock, and the top 10% own 87% of all the stock, which means that those 9% own 37% of the stock. 90% of the Plebes own the remaining 13% of all the stock of which 40% of those own 12% of all the stock, which finally boils down to the remaining 50% of the people who own stock own 1% of all the stock. And most of that will be held in 401K or mutual funds, which most are non-self directed.

Now what is a Ponzi scheme? Well that's pretty much the definition. What do "they" know that most don't, I think that most others are sheep, ready & willing to be fleeced.

Have a great weekend and if you're in PHX, enjoy one of the last days before the furnace is lit again.

patrick.net/memes's avatar

Yes, the stock market compensates for inflation, giving the rich a way out of the Fed's continuous debasement of the dollar. The poor have no escape.

The Fed should not exist and we should use pure silver by weight alone as currency, everything not physical metal in-hand to be clearly marked "Only a debt, may default and become worthless."

dbriz's avatar

The stock market runs on credit. The system runs on credit. Which is why junk bonds do well when stocks are high.

When the creditors worry about getting their money back, the bond market always gives the stock market a spanking. And right now the bond guys have their spank paddles out.

Ignore it at your peril and good luck.

JohnAZ's avatar

Right, it is banking on what the gurus think the rates will be in six months. My question was, what today is influencing what they think will be happening in six months?

Hustled Enough's avatar

Hi JohnAZ,

Nothing. I seem to remember a rousing stock market right before the 2008 financial panic that "nobody could forsee ..." You have to park money somewhere for a return, real estate is blah, and crypto isn't doing it right now, so ...

JohnAZ's avatar

AND, just before the Great Depression, the Dot.com crash, etc. all periods of expansion and inflation. The winners always hold on waiting for the return, myself included. The losers sell low in panic, and buy high.

OTOH/IMHO's avatar

The top performing stock market, for several years running, was the Caracas Stock Exchange.(in nominal currency). What does that tell you?

Leskunque Lepew's avatar

Have you noticed how the retail price of gas ties in with the Commex?

JohnAZ's avatar

Understand, but better than no discount.

Robert Rivera's avatar

I’m traveling this last week from N.C. through some Gulf states to NOLA. Ran into a couple at a rest stop from the Netherlands who shipped their RV here. Never seen one like it. They are here for 6 months & on week 3. They said even with Diesel prices what they are here, they are paying way less than back home. They said they could splurge on a nice meal every week.

JohnAZ's avatar

Hmmmm, and Europe refused to help out stabilizing the Gulf. What you sow, you reap.

JohnAZ's avatar

I can tell you that four of the great generation in my family expressed disgust at where the Blues were taking us thirty years ago. My navy buddies express the same disgust at our reunions. All those guys in Arlington are disgusted with the state of America today, asking is this what I died for? Pathetic.

Robert Rivera's avatar

John, we visited the USS Alabama yesterday. Didn’t bring passports nor do we have RealID on our drivers license. We got turned around at Pensacola NAS. Should have brought passports. We want to see the National WWII Museum in NOLA. We are in Mobile & debating going there or back home. Worried about getting stuck in NOLA if it floods. Will make decision in the AM

PapayaSF's avatar

Trump has several aces up his sleeve. The Democratic Party will soon be crushed by indictments for various kinds of fraud and corruption. Their reputation as the “party of compassion” will be destroyed. I predict something big will happen beginning in June. The 250th celebrations on July 4th will be perfect for focusing public attention on Democrat and Deep State corruption. The scandals are so big and interconnected that they’ll still be playing out in November and beyond.

patrick.net/memes's avatar

"soon" my ass.

I'm done with "soon".

PapayaSF's avatar

Big federal cases take time to prepare. Democrats are hugely vulnerable due to the fraud. Trump knows that he and all of MAGA will be targets if Democrats ever get national power again. Therefore, he will do what it takes to win the midterms. It’s all too much for an October Surprise, plus unleashing it all too close to the midterms makes it look too partisan. Logically, it’ll start happening by the end of summer at the latest, but I say June because the publicity tie-in with the 250th is too perfect for him to pass up.

Hustled Enough's avatar

Hi PapayaSF,

"Therefore, he will do what it takes to win the midterms."

Ah, the ends justify the means--would a coup that stops democratic party winners in November from taking their seats in Congress count as an example of "What it takes" that you are comfortable with here?

PapayaSF's avatar

Sorry, I didn’t mean to imply he would do anything illegal. He can get the results he wants while sticking to the letter of the law. I just meant he will be bold, decisive, outrageous in Trumpian ways.

Hustled Enough's avatar

Thank you for the clarification, PapayaSF.

Liquid Len's avatar

I totally agree, I want to see some of these treasonous s.o.b.'s frog-marched in their skivvies at 5 in the morning in front of the media. And I want it shown on every local TV station before they do the morning news or the fk'n traffic report.

Hey, a man can still dream, right? My Avatar is blue because I've been holding my breath for so dang long now, any longer I may need to come up for air...

patrick.net/memes's avatar

Trump's never going to do any of it.

We've all been played. He betrayed all of us for Israel, as proven when he bombed Iran and participated in the political assassination of Massie.

But he does have a 99% percent approval rating in Israel. They know who he's working for and are happy to say so.

Paul B. Cohen's avatar

I'm not tired of winning yet. Apparently you're not tired of losing.

patrick.net/memes's avatar

Your kind of winning looks suspiciously like losing and not admitting it.

Paula Kroll's avatar

You should have called them the party of selective compassion. They hate nearly half the citizens of this country. Legal citizens.

crabe-tambour's avatar

Right now, things are looking up for the DNC; they're the party of energy and anger, whereas the GOP is the party of division, ambivalence and apathy. But don't underestimate the capacity for the Dems for self-sabotage. They MIGHT try a Summer of Floyd 2.0, but this depends on the attitudes of their NGO paymasters. They may counsel caution and adopt a wait-and-see attitude since MAGA and America First are no longer synonymous terms. Even if the Trump coalition's schisms fester, maybe the activists won't wait and indulge their secret desire to "reenact '68."--"Interdit d' Interdire" (forbidden to forbid)--they just can't help themselves. In which case Trump likely won't hasten to invoke the Insurrection Act ("fool me twice...") So much to ponder. Is a PUZZLEMENT!"

PapayaSF's avatar

Beyond the historical tendency of the party in the White House to lose seats in midterms, what do Democrats have going for them? I think Iran and the economic issues will be over by the elections. Democrats are low on money, losing in voter registrations, have no good ideas or leaders, and are tied to unpopular positions like gender ideology and fighting deportations of even dangerous criminals. They can’t risk a Summer of Floyd 2.0 with an unfriendly DOJ, and yet if they don’t take “action,” their radical wing will revolt. They’re screwed.

I don’t see a lasting split between MAGA and America First. Both oppose the other side (gay race communism for short), who is in fact the major promoter of this split. It's largely wishcasting and a persuasion op.

P. Robert Thorson's avatar

Looks to me like change is in the air. But much like with the Plandemic, the changes coming may not be what conservatives (and many liberals) want - or thought they were getting. Collapse of an Empire can go a lot of different ways, but from where I sit the history of the U.S. seems to be rhyming with Germany, circa 1933. There are still no adults in the room, and priorities are all askew from reality.

Things are looking, err, like it's about to get serious.

Kathy S.'s avatar

Rod Dreher is coming out with a new book called "Weimar America." He's been studying the history and noting the parallels for years. However, he contends it won't necessarily be a "right/fascist" thing, or even a "Left/communist" thing -- rather, what's coming is more likely to be some new digital/technological totalitarianism different from the totalitarianisms we've seen in the past.

P. Robert Thorson's avatar

It looks like we're in for a new brand of authoritarianism for sure. I said "rhyming" because the Nazis used the Communists as an early scapegoat, and eventually positioned themselves as the lessor of two evils to take control of Germany. Similar, IMHO, the way MAGA is the leading conservative faction of the Republican party trying to drive Americans away from the "crazy left" to the center or right. That's how I read the propaganda flow, anyway.

Which is why I'm looking for America's "Burning of the Reichstag" and "Enabling Act" events coming along pretty soon now...

William's avatar

Jeez, if equates “right “ with fascism he needs to go back to potty school and learn about real economic/political tenets. 🤐

Lugh's avatar

Freedom? To do what? It's not an absolute good after all. It depends on what people do with it. Right now the Elite are working feverishly to replace humans with machines, right? The Capitalists are leading in this. So so much for your much vaunted "freedom" and the degraded Capitalism the American people chose to go with.

Casey Jones's avatar

Except that would be Mr Trump. To me, anyway.

William's avatar

Or something………. Figure it out

Anthony Murphy's avatar

Comical Kunstler won't be impressed that you doubt his crazed analysis!

izzy's avatar

It would certainly be a welcome change if rectitude was brought to all the things that need it. If our Grifter in Chief does have an Ace up his sleeve, it’s likely a golden one, and soon to be on sale along with all the other trinkets he offers in the Presidential gift shop. Even so, RFK Jr. is right about TDS. The country is a mindless mess.

Truman Verdun's avatar

A striking thing about JHK is, despite his perennial satiric sting, his essential optimism that everything will work out in the end. That is an American trait. (And after all, the intent of satire is to bring about a healthy correction--which the US and the West sorely needs.)

This is not to say that JHK is saying that everything will "return to normal" in a way we recognize or that we prefer -- but that things will return to a type of normal demanding by nature and physics. Systems will be systems, and run on energy.

It is true what MLK said: that the arc of history bends towards justice--especially when we include in the definitions of justice a type of "recalibration to gravity and reality." "To be true" means something to philosophers and moralists--but something very exact to carpenters and builders: something straight and structurally sound.

As some wise man or woman said, "Stupid shit can't last."

Casey Jones's avatar

I shall most definitely steal this: "recalibration to gravity and reality."

Thank you sir.

Truman Verdun's avatar

Yours to grab, maestro, it's all good. Truman Verdun says bueno. As Bob Dylan said, we're all going around with our hands in someone else's pockets ... or was that Jerry Garcia? 🤣

Kathy S.'s avatar

I love how Russian has two words for truth, правда (pravda) and истина (istina). Pravda is truth in a moral or legal sense -- the sense of things being right or correct -- but istina is truth in an objective, ontological sense -- the sense of things being REAL.

2+2=4, and nothing can ever make it 5. No matter what any human institution may declare.

Lugh's avatar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWlhS2voj0w

And it doesn't matter how many Jews and Christians believe that the current State of Israel is the Israel of God (what a strange god that would be), it is not.

Casey Jones's avatar

The Modern Math guys at Whoopie Tech back in the mid '60s would claim that it did, for large values of 2 and small values of 5. They got even fewer dates than I did, IIRC.

Lugh's avatar

Yes, and DEI is the "justice" this fraud was talking about.

Steve (recovering lawyer)'s avatar

"The arc of history bends toward justice" is a combination of limitless hubris, utter ignorance of actual history and meaningless bafflegab. It is Madison Avenue style sloganeering intended to make listeners nod and smile, just like they did when (if they are old enough) they watched the Coca-Cola commercial in which all the diverse peoples of the world came together in song, feeling as if they have just heard something profound when, truth to tell, they have been bamboozled and sold a bill of goods. M.L.King was good at that highfalutin speechifying that signified nothing kind of rhetoric.

Gwennie's avatar

I feel like we need ICD codes for a lot of the things we've experienced in the last 10 years:

- One for what my 70 year old neighbor's children had when they uninvited their widower father from Thanksgiving because he was a Trump supporter

- One for injecting pregnant women, infants and children with an experimental gene therapy where there was no safety data to support it, and such conduct has been declared medially unethical for decades, and is in fact prohibited under law in most civilized countries

- A diagnosis for whatever caused doctors, nurses and hospitals to take bribes for specific medical 'treatments' and to preferentially assign patients to that treatment, killing many of them while staff practiced their hospital corridor dance routines

- Probably several codes are needed for 'parents' and 'doctors' who willingly put children's futures and genitalia in a blender while woke freaks and virtue-signaling nihilists egged them on, and then assigned hateful names for anyone who dared to question the wisdom of this approach

- One for all the "adult children" who have cut normal and loving parents from their lives, a social phenomenon that affects about a quarter of all families now, robs grandchildren of love and support, and leaves grandparents suicidal

- And one for the monetization of everything, from the most profane to the formerly most sacred.

We have been overtaken by madness...

Lugh's avatar

Well said. How well does Capitalism jibe with Christianity and Christ's "Love of money is the root of evil"? Not very well? No, not Not very well, but not at all. We are a Culture divided and have no future.

Being besotted with the love of money, our Elite have no love for us whatsoever and thus it was completely natural to replace us with cheap coolie labor by either shipping the jobs off or shipping the coolies in.

Cankerpuss's avatar

Money ruins and destroys everything. Everything.

Cankerpuss's avatar

Superb comment, Gwennie. Absolutely superb! Especially part about adult children cutting loving parents from their lives. My daughter has done that to my wife and I. All because I told her to get married rather than shacking up with her boy friend.

Gwennie's avatar

I am sorry, Cankerpuss. I don't think there is any greater pain than this.

OTOH/IMHO's avatar

Not madness, greed. Congress has been bribed and/or blackmailed into signing off on one massive bill after another, written by the very corporations that are plundering the Treasury and sending the national debt through the roof, like the "Affordable" Care Act, which a normally functional Supreme Court would have rejected a 2500 page bill that was never read out in Congress as required by law, and then justified by the court on the grounds it was a tax, not a mandate, which was absurd, and ignoring the further Constitutional requirement that tax bills must originate the House, not the Senate. But the open-ended and unending hemorrhage of money FBO principally the MIC, which is fully accepted by most commentators here because it is "to put down evil Iran" begs for Congress to take back its authority to declare war, but because of the present "emergency" they refuse to do so, nor withhold spending. JHK, who says they are crazy teen-age goofballs with guns whose heads must be battered into submission, never asks "just who is entitled to have the bomb?"

Brian's avatar

Exactly – great comment.

Corrin Strong's avatar

“But the news media doesn’t really report on anything. It opines. It spins. It constructs story-lines for advantage, it gaslights, it perverts the consensus about reality out of existence, it just plain lies.”

Another perfect paragraph James! We can’t hate them enough!

Maureen's avatar

Just like the ‘mostly peaceful protests’ - they take the public for fools.

Ben's avatar

The truth is many are fools.

Howard Skillington's avatar

As the Five-Day Iran War passes the three month mark this week no settlement is in the offing, notwithstanding the president’s optimistic mouth noises. There is no conceivable intersection between any of our terms and those of Iran.

Iran will not be giving up its nuclear material. It would be fatally foolish to do so. After all the years of submitting to rigorous inspections, all of which confirmed Iran’s adherence to a strict proscription against developing nuclear weapons, during which Iran was ruled by a revered religious leader who expressly forbid doing so, Iran was still subjected to the murder of that leader and an existential threat by Israel and its American lapdog. Now it knows very well what must be done to assure its survival: the same thing North Korea has done to protect itself from Western aggression. Nuclear deterrence is the only thing that works, just as it is the only thing that has enabled Israel to continue to exist for this long.

Israel and the US have failed in this war, and Iran holds the cards – most critically, a stranglehold on the world economy which Wall Street has not even faced up to yet. The US has foolishly depleted its inadequate weapons inventory, even withdrawing short supplies from allies like South Korea, while Iran has an enormous number of drones and missiles staged for continuing use, as needed.

Any Kelloggian declarations of putting US boots on the ground in Iranian territory is completely risible. Our war propaganda still contends that our total troop losses number in the teens. The unavoidable immediate loss of thousands in a failed land invasion would bring Trump down in a few days.

As for legitimate midterm elections, one can only hope, but what Miriam Adelson, AIPAC, and Trump himself did to Representative Massey last week is far from encouraging. Outspending Mr. Massey by 460 per cent, nineteen per cent of Gallrein’s votes were mailed-in absentee ballots.

James Howard Kunstler's avatar

Howard Skillington, you remain a bumptious ass. Where'd you learn how to write? At a Mitt Romney PAC?

Howard Skillington's avatar

Your insults are marginally improving, Jim. This, at least, beats "Fuck You."

Hustled Enough's avatar

Hi Howard Skillington,

That is a side of JHK Admin that I have not seen before. I am shocked! Shocked! :) Still, I think that he could have called you "rambunctious." Maybe both?

Still, I wonder if Iran would give up its nuclear aspirations if it was able to keep the toll it has started to institute in the "Gate of Hormuz." After all, economic retaliation is still retaliation. And the level of pain is more widely diffused, so a different sort of pain. I guess it loses its potency if the other Gulf States develop new pipelines elsewhere .. Still you can blowed them billion dollar pipelines up with the help of a $10000 drone at some point ...

Ernest N. Curtis's avatar

Why should Iran (or anyone else) give up their nuclear aspirations. The clear message of the past 80 years is that countries with a nuclear deterrent don't get invaded or bombed by aggressors. Nuclear technology cannot be "uninvented". Those that put their trust in nuclear limitation pacts and such are hopelessly naive. The government of Iran's policy to forego development of a nuclear deterrent in the face of constant threats from the US and Israel was criminally stupid.

Hustled Enough's avatar

Hi Ernest N. Curtis,

What every country wants is a useful deterrent against the aggression of other states. The US went into this war believing--if the reports are to be believed--that Iran had no good moves and would do nothing with regards to the closure of the the Straits. If you can bring the world to its knees without using a system whose use will bring about mutually assured destruction, then why not use it? And a toll regime brings in revenue. Its an economic rent. One that can be used to bring international pressure to bear on Israel. Nukes can't do that. And if you threatened Iran with nukes, well, I guess the reply would be something along the lines of... "Well, that's a lot of high value energy infrastructure you have around the neighbourhood... pity something should happen to it."

It always interests me that JDK Admin talks about Iran's leadership as a death cult, bent of nihilism given the future rewards of Paradise. And in the next breath talk about the obvious wisdom of bending to America's will as a rational actor would, given the pain it would suffer if it did not. And yet, JHK Admin does not recognize the incoherence of these claims. I think we have ample evidence to suggest that the Iranian leadership knows that the US is well and truly screwed on this deal and has no good moves. And Iran did not need nuclear weapons to achieve that--just geography

Ernest N. Curtis's avatar

The closure of the straits with the consequent world-wide economic effects should have been a deterrent. But deterrence requires the ability to think through the secondary effects before acting and there is little or no evidence that Trump and those that control him did so. It is said that Trump's family and businesses have been reaping great profits since this all started. So, to that extent, possibly they are aware of what they are doing. It would also seem that Israel and their Zionist allies are driving Trump and this war. For them, this is existential and they probably could care less about the consequences for others. Given their clearly stated goals of a Greater Israel and total domination of the Middle East, the threat of nuclear obliteration is probably the only deterrent that would work.

GonzoDon's avatar

Hustled:

Then you haven’t been paying attention.

JHK has told me to “fuck off” on at least one, I think two occasions. You can tell when the criticism is starting to cut too close to the bone.

Ernest N. Curtis's avatar

Passionate Zionism seems to preclude rational thought and substitutes name calling.

Hustled Enough's avatar

Thank you for the update, GonzoDan. I haven't been paying close enough attention!

HE

Howard Skillington's avatar

Iran cannot under any circumstance, give up its nuclear program. Doing so, it would remain vulnerable to Israel and the US, neither of which can be trusted to honor a ceasefire, let alone any treaty.

Iran's bet in this war is that it can absorb more punishment than Israel can withstand, and that the US does not have the stomach to do anything more than continue to deplete its missile arsenal. So far, that bet is looking pretty sound. To capitulate to US demands at any point would be to have suffered all of this war's damage for nothing.

Hustled Enough's avatar

Maybe, but the Toll would be pretty devastating compensation that would also have the benefit for Iran of undercutting Israeli power in the region and influence with Gulf States.

Howard Skillington's avatar

This war isn't about money, which can eventually be replaced. It's about national sovereignty for a three thousand year old civilization. Once lost, it can't be restored.

William's avatar

Thank you, Mr Kunstler for summarizing what I had almost written. Beautifully on point. Putz thinks bloviating words and term from grog, grope, grok- WTF that thing is makes him sound educated. Fool in clowns thought, completely nonsensical.

crabe-tambour's avatar

At least he credited TRUMP with Massie's defeat, not just the contributions to Whatzisname's campaign.

Ernest N. Curtis's avatar

Thank you for your calm and well-reasoned argument. The author's response was quite childish. Memorial Day should elicit sadness---sadness for the lives and treasure wasted in places like Korea, Viet Nam, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.

JohnAZ's avatar

Sadness on the loss of lives that has produced the cesspool that half of America is today.

Ernest N. Curtis's avatar

There is that as well. For someone that grew up in the 1950s, the US culture today is unrecognizable.

JustMeAgain's avatar

The loss of Massey was as tragic as it was predictable. No dissent allowed!

Alice Ball's avatar

It was not dissent not allowed, it was the voters who kicked out Mr Accomplish-Nothing Massie.

Fight the Good Fight's avatar

Nonsense. The voter turnout numbers were insanely inflated in favor of the Gallrein puppet. This attack on a legitimate candidate will not go over well with We the People. Don’t buy the Trumpian propaganda.

patrick.net/memes's avatar

Agreed.

Now I agree there are only the right and left wings of AIPAC to choose from. I used to think that was an exaggeration, but in KY they proved it is true.

We need a 3rd party, one explicitly dedicated to freeing Congress from the stranglehold of AIPAC.

dbriz's avatar

Um-hmm. Everything the Trumpsters say was done to Trump in 2020, appears with much credible evidence to have been done to Massey. At least we can’t say Trump didn’t learn something from the Dems.

UncleBob9's avatar

The turd was taking money from the Squad and other leftist organizations, fer chrissakes. What true conservative takes money from socialists?

Demeter's avatar

There's dissent, and there's lies, sabotage, and Machiavellian manipulation of the truth. No loss dumping the second.

Lugh's avatar

Yes, Massie made Trump live up to his promise to release the Epstein files. It's not his fault that Trump is in them, is it?

patrick.net/memes's avatar

I don't even care if Trump is in them or not. He started a war after being elected to NOT do that. And it's not coincidentally exactly what Miriam Adelson wanted.

crabe-tambour's avatar

Or, perhaps more accurately, his cronies, who seem to be his de facto Praetorian Guard. Trump was dumb to be seen with Epstein after the latter's "punishment" but I'm skeptical about Trump's invoking some weird Droit du Seigneur. Of course, his guilt or innocence are irrelevant to hismeme-driven, woke enemies.

Aelwed Bell's avatar

This is all nonsense and wishful thinking. Outside the USA's and Israel's populations, the whole rest of the world knows that the USA and Israel are the most evil countries on the planet. Nothing but mass murder and theft in their history. If these countries were people, they'd be in prison serving lifetime sentences. No! Correction: They'd be in a mental institution, serving a lifetime sentence. MAGA and America First are gone. Trump is a complete traitor. Doesn't matter who the President is in the USA, its special agenda continues to roll out. I can't read these writings anymore. I don't care for Kool-Aid.

Peter S's avatar

Thank you, a nice articulate summary. Goodness knows where Jimmys' writer is getting his gibberish from.

Howard Skillington's avatar

Israel Derangement Syndrome.

Kathy Christian's avatar

Your observations are astute, but remember that the God who keeps Israel neither slumbers nor sleeps.

Howard Skillington's avatar

Then why has he allowed the Iron Dome to fail?

Dennis L. Merwood's avatar

God does not exist.

ALL "GOD's" are imaginary. On the first day man created GOD. And the cause of untold human misery! Religion is just an evolution of superstition. Any rational and logical person can see that it makes far more sense that all religion is just man made. Theists who base all their religions that are no more than superstition, never ask themselves... "Why is my God REAL when all the others are FALSE?" The odds of GOD being real are non-existent.

Christianity: The belief that God sacrificed God to God to save God's creations from God.

Donna Wilson's avatar

It's the stinking, vile religions that will trap the ME in perpetual war. Those of us who are of other persuasions will never prevail against the sickness of the mind they suffer over there.

Religion poisons everything. --C. Hitchens

Lugh's avatar

Atheism is a religion too.

Howard Skillington's avatar

Nonsense. Religion is a belief system. Absence of belief is not a belief system. I don't believe in Unicorns, either. That does not make me a Non-Unicornist. The notion that Atheism is a religion is held by those who cannot imagine living without religion. I am not "An Atheist." I am simply atheist.

Lugh's avatar

The first gulp from the glass of natural

sciences will make you an athiest,

at the bottom of the glass God is

waiting for you.

Werner Heisenberg

(father of Quantum Physics).

-.truthcontest.com

Cankerpuss's avatar

The one thing atheists cannot address is where it all came from or how it all started. There had to be a beginning and not just some random explosion of a blob at the center of the universe. Even if that is how it all began, what put the blob there and what made it explode?

Donna Wilson's avatar

No one can explain this. I think it's not for us to know, like so many things in this world.

Cankerpuss's avatar

The one thing atheists cannot address is where it all came from or how it all started. There had to be a beginning and not just some random explosion of a blob at the center of the universe. Even if that is how it all began, what put the blob there and what made it explode?

Howard Skillington's avatar

Granted, that is The Great Mystery. The thing is: there is nothing about religion that is either necessary or sufficient to address that question. If there were a God the question would remain: what put you here? And his answer would have to be "damifino."

Lugh's avatar

A classic Christian know nothing burger. Israel got its ass kicked and Iran controls the Strait of Hormuz. And it could take out the American ships in the area at any time.

Satan never sleep either. Maybe he is your actual god.

Skeptical Actuary's avatar

"After all the years of submitting to rigorous inspections, all of which confirmed Iran’s adherence to a strict proscription against developing nuclear weapons, during which Iran was ruled by a revered religious leader who expressly forbid doing so,"

ROTFL. Would you have us believe that the special geography of Iran causes Uranium to enrich to 60% on it's own?

Howard Skillington's avatar

Gather up all the dust bunnies you like, Skeptic. Iran has it, they're going to keep it, and we've forced their hand.

GonzoDon's avatar

I wouldn’t look for any kind of deal or any word of the deal falling apart until the markets open on Tuesday. There’s insider trading to be done.

JackStrawWichita's avatar

Iran is winning, and they have an endless supply of drones?

It's always nice to see the brain-dead leftist's views on current events. You never fail to amuse.

Howard Skillington's avatar

And yet: we are twelve weeks into Netanyahu's five-day war, Iran is standing firm on its original demands, and the western world is at an economic precipice.

I make statements which are now a matter of record, and we can both review them in another three months, by which time it will be even more clear that the Israel/US have lost this war.

If I am proven wrong you can re-print them and rub my nose in them.

Even now, have you never noticed that we fail to win every war that we start?

My contentions are based upon authoritative international sources, yours on the Corporate Media's propaganda. In other words, you don't know Jack Shit.

JackStrawWichita's avatar

First of all, just by saying it's Netanyahu's war, shows that you're a rabid anti-Semite. I'm sure you spend your nights screaming about the genocide in Gaza.

You won't be around after the war ends. You follow leftist MSM, so you have no idea what's really going on over there.

The Illusion Of Human Progress's avatar

Iran has every right in the world to enrich uranium to power plant grade. In fact they have every right to produce weapon grade uranium like every other country on the planet. It’s not Iran’s fault that Trump tore up a perfectly good nonproliferation agreement in 2018. they would be fools to give that right up unless course Israel hands over their nukes first.

James Howard Kunstler's avatar

Illusion of Human Progress: your attitude isn't even intelligent enough to label as cynicism.

JohnAZ's avatar

Just look at his moniker. Fits.

William Wallace's avatar

Not his attitude it’s his Altitude, he’s has both his Feet Planted firmly in the Air!

Greg Simay's avatar

These past decades, Iran may have developed a non-nuclear "Samson Option" of its own, one which makes it much harder to deny Iran a nuclear capability. Key question: Even if Iran were otherwise utterly devastated, would the deep tunnels and missle-laden caverns honeycombing the Zargos mountains still enable Iran to lay waste the Middle East's oil production capability? And possibly inflict serious damage on Israel by overwhelming the Iron Dome by sheer force of number-of-missles?

A tactical nuke would probably be able to inflict real damage on the underground Zargos network, but crossing that line entails serious risks of its own. But it seems that our conventional capability can only block tunnel entrances, which the Iranians have been able to clear within three days or so. Don't know if we can block them all.

A rational Iranian regime would not want to sacrifice tens of millions of its citizens to spite the West. But a regime that wants to usher in the end of the world? I think it's the latter possibility that the Trump administration is having to grapple with.

Skeptical Actuary's avatar

I'll state the obvious: Iran is run by religious fanatics that fully believe the only way to be sure they get into heaven is martyrdom, and that take seriously the command in the Koran to kill "infidels", starting with Jews.

These are not normal people that value human life.

Donna Wilson's avatar

No. They are sick in the head. Like all religious fanatics.

Jeff Keener's avatar

I've read commentary that while the IRGC is bragging that they are using the ceasefire to "reconstitute" their army (🙄), Tehran's FARAJA are conducting hundreds of executions of dissidents who protested the regime last winter. Would the west's left be moved if we had better documentation of the horrors Tehran's islamists are inflicting on the Persian people? I suppose not. I reckon DNC-Media would ignore it.

JohnAZ's avatar

I hav debated with folks many times that have very obvious TDS, and have read the opposing views on CFN for years. Most are legitimate viewpoints of people concerned about the situation in DC and Trump’s inability to do much about it. Some though hinge on delusion, vivid imaginations, and would qualify for an APA diagnosis. Like any other delusional situation, these folks can be dangerous, violent, and able to justify homicide. We seem to read about these people multiple times per week, and our law enforcement seems unable to stop them. What level of carnage will be allowed to occur before the people react, and how can they react.

Trump’s law enforcement effort in DC seems to have helped, or did the bums just move elsewhere?

William Wallace's avatar

Dem Bums are still in office 😉

Old Gyrene's avatar

"Dem Bums..."

You quoting Yogi Berra?

🤣

UncleBob9's avatar

The Brooklyn Dodgers?

Scott Kinghorn's avatar

I wondered about that also. Have seen several videos about lawless juveniles in large groups terrorizing businesses in DC or the Navel District? Not sure where that is.

Double Mc's avatar

I think you mean the Naval district. Navel is a belly button. ;)

Scott Kinghorn's avatar

Yeah that Naval one. Lol

William's avatar

Navel is a variety of orange. Orange you glad? 🍊

UncleBob9's avatar

Too bad Leroy Jethro Gibbs & Co. are fictional characters. He'd clear them out single-handed in an hour. 😉

Donna Wilson's avatar

Great show! Loved David McCallum as Dr. Mallard. :-)

UncleBob9's avatar

A horde of black kids recently overran Long Branch, NJ. The video was disturbing.

JohnAZ's avatar

Nope, Naval yard is just downstream from the mall, on the Potomac, north shore.

Inisfad's avatar

I watch TousiTV and if you’re interested in Iran, this is the best place to get any info. The various factions of the IRGC and Iranian government are at odds with each other, and there are actually factions on Iranian TV advising that there is no negotiation or prospective peace deal. There is not one faction who speaks for the entirety of Iran. Additionally, apparently Iran has buried enriched uranium in at least 3 separate places. Will they give all of this up? The answer (at least thus far) is a resounding NO. While I understand that President Trump likes to negotiate and make deals, there are some people with whom that is impossible. And Iran is one of those. ‘Negotiation-incapable’ is the perfect way to describe it.

Ben's avatar

It appears to always have been which is why Persia has been annihilated in its history by those who sought to negotiate with them.

Ask the Mongols about making deals with Persians.

I fear this is the only talk these people really understand.

Inisfad's avatar

I think that, at least currently, we need to differentiate between Persians (and the rest of the civilians that make up the Iranian citizenry) and the Islamic radicals that have governed their country for decades.

Ben's avatar
May 25Edited

There is a difference.

Ignore history at your own peril as there is in fact precedence for a level of insanity where pride and obstinance get one destroyed.

That is what it took before, and it might very well be what it takes now.

Lugh's avatar

Yes, "real" Persians want to wear mini-skirts and have gay pride parades like Israel.

Unlike the latter, they will be subjected to mass African immigration however. But only If they are conquered. Let's see you do it. I don't think you can without using nuclear weapons. And many have promised that Israel will meet the same fate should that occur.

Foxtrot Victor's avatar

Ive always thought that the deep state doesn't do multiple coups on a country without leaving multiple assets within that country. The JPCOA clearly allowed multiple deep state entities to thrive. The wealthy within Iran having property outside the country is evidence. Where did Obamas pallets of cash go? What was it used for? It's clearly a difficult situation to untangle. What Trump/the administration is saying publicly is more than like a smokescreen and you either have to trust Trump as he roots out the snake or not. I think the snakes are in the City of London and the web of British offshore Island tax havens.

Inisfad's avatar

I have a feeling you watch Promethean Action. I do. The amount of expensive real estate that the ‘mullahs’ own, the children of the IRGC living a wealth, elite lifestyle, etc. I suspect that’s where pallets of cash go….as well as to missiles, munitions and proxy groups.

Foxtrot Victor's avatar

I do, but I've followed Lyndon LaRouche for years too. Myron Fagan, Mae Brussel, Eustace Mullins, Antony Sutton. So that dates me. Eustace says that he helped write the Joe McCarthy's first speech. If that's true they've distorted what Joe said, the communist infiltration was real all right, but it didnt come from Russia it came from Wall Street City of London. Trouble is, you can't find a transcript or video of that speech on the internet. Why is that important? Because Roy Cohn certainly knew what Joe McCarthy was really on about. Was he a party to the distortion?

Matt's avatar

You watch TousiTV

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

What a beta boy bootlicker

Inisfad's avatar

Strangely, I watch it for the information. Imagine that.

Matt's avatar

Trump has stolen billions in taxpayer dollars.

But you’re crying about ‘mullahs’ lol

Why don’t you mind your own fucking business and clean up your own house before you start bossing people around, like anyone would do anything you said pussy

🤣🤣🤣

Inisfad's avatar

It’s time for you to take your meds.

Matt's avatar

Trump arrested an Olympian for touching his filthy shit hole $14 million failure lol

How do you keep bootlicking for these child rapist incompetent dipshits lol

Your people are pathetic retards who cheer for our country’s destruction

I hope some Nuremberg trials are coming

Matt's avatar

It’s time for you to run away like a degenerate chickenshit bootlicker

Can you tell me about Michelle Obama’s big hard cock?

Matt's avatar

It’s time for you to grow a pair and stop worshipping Epstein’s child raping buddies in the Whirte House beta bitch

Matt's avatar

You can’t even defend yourself

So you run away?

🫵🤡

Matt's avatar

How much cash did Obama give them 🤔

Inisfad's avatar

Obama supports the Muslim Brotherhood. Shipping unknown amounts of cash on pallets in a number of planes….I can only imagine the final tally.

Matt's avatar

Interesting how you didn’t answer my direct question…

Doesn’t that kind of thing make you cry?

Hypocrite bootlicker for the Epstein Regime

Sad!

Matt's avatar

All you can do is fantasize about how powerful Barry is.

Meanwhile Trump shits his pants.

Matt's avatar

Trump supports the IDF 🤣

All your arguments are pathetic

All your justifications are retarded

Did you get your ged?

Education in this country is atrocious

Thank goodness the WWE is in charge now lol

Inisfad's avatar

Is there some reason why you keep repeating your BS without reading any responses?

Matt's avatar

We know exactly how much Obama gave Iran because all of you beta bitches wouldn’t stop howling about it lol

$1.8 billion

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Trump gives them $300 billion plus…

The art of the deal by a 6 times bankrupt child rapists

🫵🤡

Inisfad's avatar

Trump has given them nothing. Don’t you do any research at all?? Read the MOU. Or have Mom read it to you.

Matt's avatar

Trump is about to give Iran a $300 billion + pallet of cash…

Inisfad's avatar

Nope. The $300 billion comes from Qatar, and is not given until certain conditions are met. Read the MOU. It’s only 14 points.

Matt's avatar

Obama gave them $1.8 billion of their own money back to them and you cried like a bitch lol

The strait is closed.

Trump doesn’t even know how to surrender.

Are you seriously this clueless about the shit storm the pants shitter created?

Everything you betas touch turns to shit.

Inisfad's avatar

I guess Obama must have given it to them in $1 bills, then, considering teh number of pallets, etc., it took. There has never been a definite amount admitted to, but speculation is anywhere between $50 billion and $150 billion. Go look it up, and stop talking out of your hat, FFS.

Lugh's avatar

They're in great shape. Your dog Trump blows up one, and then they'll make bombs with the rest of it. You lose again.

Matt's avatar

Is that why Trump is surrendering to Iran?

Is that why Iran holds all the cards?

Maybe watch another channel lol

Paul B. Cohen's avatar

Well put. Thank you, Jim. Enjoy your day.

Steve S's avatar

To the Lefty left I would add the Righty right as they converge in an orgy of TDS and pro Iran nonsense.

Skeptical Actuary's avatar

I think the numbers of Republicans that have gone cuckoo is overstated.

To give one example, ex conservative comedian JP Sears has gone cuckoo, hating on Erika Kirk and claiming the WHCA shooting was likely "staged". He has 700K followers, but the video where he talked about the WHCA shooting only got about 400 likes.

And who know how many of THEM were from people who had been following him in his actual conservative days?

I've seen polls showing that well over 95% of Trump voters are still glad they voted for Mr. Trump. Of course we know pretty well what the alternative would have been, so even people who hate the war against Iran think Trump is better than Kamala fronting a bunch of anonymous leftists.

dbriz's avatar

“I've seen polls showing that well over 95% of Trump voters are still glad they voted for Mr. Trump.”

Damn. I didn’t know this. Please, link me to these polls.

Skeptical Actuary's avatar

I was writing this based on somewhat fuzzy recollections. I did a few web searches, and didn't have much luck since most polling organizations are biased against Trump, and even if you use unbiased search engines like freespoke and mojeek, you end up with crappy results.

I switched over to X, found a lot of posts that made me want to tilt at windmills (I only tilted at one this time), but was reminded that we have these things called AI.

Maybe you should use it instead of making me do it when I'm still half asleep. (Yes, I know it's well into the afternoon. So sue me.)

U Mass did a poll in March that had only 5% of self identified Trump voters saying they regretted voting for him. It's a little lower with more recent polls.

I was a little off, but I was thinking: "were these polls saying MAGA, Republicans, Trump voters...?"

https://www.umass.edu/political-science/about/reports/2026-0

Click "toplines" and scroll to page 5.

Liquid Len's avatar

I guess that may be true given the alternative at the time. For me, even though I voted for the guy, I'm off the Trump Train-wreck. I guess there is some truth in the saying; "If Voting truly mattered , you really think "they" let us do it?". They being our Owners.

dbriz's avatar

I’ll believe him when he links to a legitimate poll. Which I seriously doubt.

Yeah, Jim Hightower had a great line in one of his books:

“If God wanted us to vote He’d give us better candidates.”

Skeptical Actuary's avatar

https://www.umass.edu/political-science/about/reports/2026-0

Click "toplines" and scroll to page 5.

Also see my rambling comments to another reply in this thread.

Lugh's avatar

Yes, the Left and the Right meet at a higher level and create a new line far above your Capitalism/Communism and the uneasy middle, Socialism. These are all about matter; National Socialism and Fascism are about all about Man.

patrick.net/memes's avatar

There's a 3rd option: keep capitalism, but tax land values alone, not the buildings, not income from work, and not sales.

This is Georgism.

Lugh's avatar

The above two system keep Capitalism and private ownership. They merely state to who much is given, much is asked. And of course they know that the public and private sphere are intertwined. You can't let incredibly powerful "private" people run rampant against the public good and the Nation. They play ball or they can leave or retire.

As Pinochet said in his simple (not stupid) way: Of course you treat people who can build things very well.

You don't want the rich and capable to leave after all.

patrick.net/memes's avatar

Agreed.

Keep capitalism and private ownership.

Taxing land values is the fair way to prevent devolution into hereditary aristocracy.

Liquid Len's avatar

The Devolution into Oligarchy is a very real threat and we need to identify and root out the correct enemy.

I'll be more specific, how 'bout keeping Industrial Capitalism and ditch Financial Capitalism because it is parasitic. Better yet, keep Productive Capitalism and dump the Financial Scam Capitalism.

I don't think taxing Land value is the best way to go because it too subjective and can be easily weaponized.

To that end I've been pondering on how a fair system of shared societal cost could be structured but that's not my area of expertise and I honestly don't have the time right now to dive deep into the matter.

So, for now, I'll just yell from my porch at the passerby's.

My starting point is:

Everyone has to have skin in the game in order to share in the benefits society has to offer.

A good example;

I would suggest that our military was and still is the most successful socialized construct in existence. By agreeing to serve in an organization with a common purpose and subjecting one's self to it's rules and structure the organization provides; eduction, housing, food, medical treatment, a certain amount of skillset training, albeit some lethal some not as lethal. But even that training instills a certain degree of confidence and self-reliance. Then when the service contracted time is over there is the G.I. Bill for additional higher education and then the availability of VA Housing programs.

These weren't freebies they were earned benefits that enabled all participants to share in growing of the wealth of the Nation.

Consequently, these programs enabled the American economy to flourish in the aftermath of WW2 & Korea.

But unfortunately, the gains of those times were hijacked and squandered in the mid 60's, first by Johnson and then by every Administration ever since.

For the past 30-40 years our Republic has been assimilated by the Financial Interests of the Western World. Their goal is total subjectation. To define it as Neo-Feudalism is probably the most accurate description. I thought this was the direction society WAS headed but now I realize we've already arrived at this destination.

The quest for additional Data-Centers is the infrastructure for uncontested control and the soon to be introduced Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC) will be everyone's Passport to Hell.

To those of us who are in our 7th, 8th or 9th decade we can only share memories of having experienced the American Empire's Golden Age and Hope (that darn word again) that future generations can pick up the mantle and not let Freedom or the pursuit of Liberty perish from this Land.

Chris's avatar

Iran tried negotiating early on but their negotiators were slaughtered.

Lugh's avatar

The American mentality on display right here.

Richard's avatar

I really enjoy reading Mr. Kunstler's comments. They are witty and sagacious and most times right on the money. However, when it comes to Israel, he is completely delusional.

Aelwed Bell's avatar

Everybody is who is pro-Israel. It was a monumental error to create the state of Israel. Anyone that is objective and has common sense knows this. Nothing has come from it other than misery, suffering and chaos (clandestine activities, war, propaganda, bribery, extortion, etc.).

William's avatar

Well, we intellectuals suffer your psycho babble racist vomit. Lick boy 🤮

dbriz's avatar

“Well, we intellectuals…”

This is a strong contender in the Laugh of the Month Contest soon to end for May.

Don’t ruin your chances by telling anyone you have an Ivy League degree. Even if you do. Mums the word.

Aelwed Bell's avatar

Don't waste your time with Zionists. Logic and morality don't exist in their worlds.

William's avatar

I imagine you are still in bed with your dear mum! Loosen the teat!

dbriz's avatar

Not bad but…Sorry, only one entry per commenter.

Freedom 4 conservatives's avatar

The leftist swine in America who wish daily for the failure of the American Republic, its Constitution, its free-market economy (much as the left has tried to destroy it)--in short, everything that has made the U.S. the most free, wealthy country ever to exist on Planet Earth--will spit on the graves of generations of true Americans who died fighting for the very freedoms that the leftists want to strip from this great country. To label such leftists as pure human filth is too mild of a pejorative description for these life loser, violent, America-hating sots. On this Memorial Day, I remember all of the brave Americans who died defending this country and what it stands for. The American flag flies proudly in my yard this day, as it does on every Memorial Day, Independence Day, Labor Day, and Veterans Day. As for the leftist scumbags who pine for the death of America as a Republic, well, you can just go straight to Hell, and the sooner the better.

Jorge Fernandez's avatar

Yes, indeed, there is a Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS). However, things have changed .......

I've created an additional TDS category. I refer to them as TDS1 and TDS2. Let me explain ...........

We all remember the original TDS, which I refer to as TDS1. Concisely, TDS1 was (and is) the position believing that Trump "COULD DO NOTHING *RIGHT*". Under TDS1, Trump was "wrong on all things said and done; Trump was evil in everything; Trump was stupid on all views and decisions."

Then I began noting the exact **opposite** position - I called it TDS2. TDS2 was (and is) the position believing that Trump "COULD DO NOTHING *WRONG*". Under TDS2, Trump was "RIGHT on all things said and done; Trump was GOOD in everything; Trump was SUPER-SMART on all views and decisions."

As such, when people with TDS2 could not figure out what super-genius Trump was doing - something that "appeared" stupid - those people would conclude that Trump was "playing 7-dimensional chess, while the rest of humanity was in a sandbox playing tic-tac-toe."

In my own circles I've met people that suffer *extreme* forms of TDS2. If you dare speak anything negative about Trump, such as express any criticism of his words or actions, you'd better be at a safe distance.

So, yes, TDS exists. Now you know that there are two types of TDS - TDS1 and TDS2. Hopefully, you suffer from none of them but are instead grounded on objective reality.

MCL's avatar

How about TDS3. Trump Disappointment Syndrome?

Jorge Fernandez's avatar

TDS3 is not a 'Derangement'.

That said, any Trump follower NOT disappointed in Trump, is exhibiting TDS2 to some degree.

patrick.net/memes's avatar

Yes, disappointment. Just heard it elsewhere today.

JustMeAgain's avatar

LOL! Soon to be reflected in the DSM-5 or 6.

Ben's avatar

Indeed, Jorge really is one of those people who simply can't understand what is wrong with everyone else and never realizes he is the one that is fucked up.

Typical full of shit liberal.

Jorge Fernandez's avatar

Here, with Ben, we likely have a TDS2 sufferer. Pray for him. LOL!!!

Jorge Fernandez's avatar

Hmm ... looks as if Mike Ware is another TDS2 sufferer. Pray for him. LOL!!!

Ben's avatar

Again, the little guy doesn't get it.

Jorge, I see Trump as a flawed leader and thin skinned but at the moment he is who we have.

The other side has who waiting in the wings and the Republicans available at the moment?

The saying God gives you the leaders you deserve seems to ring very true at the moment.

The fact you can't seem to distance yourself from the raging torrent of "but Trump" stupidity in your smooth little brain is your issue not mine.

Lugh's avatar

Uncle Bob said he thought the execution of the Rosenbergs was just. What do you say?