Woke politics meets garish architecture in one of America’s most architecturally distinguished cities. Let’s hope this wet dream never becomes reality.
Being in Houston, Mark, you should appreciate that we could literally feed the world if half of the 26 lanes on I-10, the worlds largest highway, were converted to farmland through the use of Odd-even rationing (also called odd-even road space rationing or license plate rationing) Examples: Mexico City (Hoy No Circula): Since 1989, peak hours ban based on plate parity. Delhi (2016/2019): Temporary smog measures. Santiago, Chile: Permanent since 1996. Yellowstone: Entrance rationing (odd plates odd days).
26 lanes on the Katy Freeway (I-10 West)??? It’s a lotta lanes of concrete - but including the HOV/Toll lanes it’s 14 lanes at widest.
I have no idea how odd-even road rationing leads to being able to feed half the world. There is no shortage of farm land in Texas - even if I-10 were 46 lanes wide!
From Perplexity:I-10 (Katy Freeway) in Houston reaches its widest at 26 lanes total near Beltway 8/Gessner Road west of downtown:12 main freeway lanes (6 each direction)6 HOV/HOT managed lanes (mid-freeway)8 frontage/access roads." The point is, that at a time of food shortages and sharply increasing prices, this is a much simpler way of expanding ag acreage rather than erecting high-rise absurdities- and the land has already been graded. To John: I am not talking about exporting it, either.
I don’t think someone like Frank Lloyd Wright, who actually cared about building structures that were in harmony with humanity and the earth, would care for this monstrosity at all.
That's hysterical! Just what they need. An entire building that looks like a household dumpster next to pristine (oh, surely, it will be advertised that way - "grown above the smog and contamination") veggies.
Clown world, bubble thinking. And maybe Chicago has a few things to work out before rational folks consider investing heavily in downtown. Not least of which is the fact that most all folks everywhere don’t want the hassle of working in downtowns anymore.
Can you imagine living on a floor BELOW 3 floors of hydroponic lettuce?
Ive been to Soldier Field in the Winter.. I don’t care HOW they propose this, it will never happen. The costs (and the concept) are untenable and downright ridiculous.
I don't see that this solves the winter-weather-problem. It snows. It's cold - I mean, drop-dead- in-a-heartbeat cold (I live in S. GA so that kind of cold is rare - and we just had upper teens for a week!). And I've not heard anyone say whether it's cheaper than the grocery - which, in case anyone noticed, the prices are NOT going down at WalMart, the largest purchaser of food in the country. They aren't eating the tariff costs.
Glad you mentioned this. This is the next dam to break. The spraying is so in our faces at this point that even normies around me sometimes comment on it.
Oh, the tariff costs are being eaten by the other nations corporations who are absorbing the tariffs.
The other increase in prices you see are entirely the result of one thing, and one thing only - the continued printing of "money" from nothing. That money also goes to certain people first, who benefit. Then prices rise and you and I do not benefit, we have reduced purchasing power.
It's why the rich are getting richer and the poor are still poor and he middle class is being destroyed. And you know who loves when all that happens? The very communists who run our nation! They hate the middle class and need it destroyed to usher in their communist utopia.
We need a lesson on isms. Cause I think it looks like fascism walks like fascism and most definitely talks like fascism. But there’s the A one as well so I think we need a lesson.
Yes food deserts exist because of horrible political decisions. Like in Baltimore when they damaged a CVS during riots. Large corporations will cut their continual losses and leave so you end up with food deserts when supermarkets close and medicine deserts because pharmacies also close.
Some folks have to trade their food snaps for cash to buy other things they need. A twelve-pack of Corona and a pack of Marlboros will run you about $40 in Chicago. Per day.
As long as it is stupid rich people putting their own money at risk, I have zero problem. Where the problem will probably come from is that these stupid people think taxpayers need to subsidize this lunacy. Food deserts are a man made problem where the people causing the problem are also the ones upset at the results of their own thievery. Try suggesting to their lib pols that the reason for food deserts are an over abundance of thieves in the ghetto and that if people would not steal they would have all kinds of stores opening up but......the truth hurts and we cannot have hurt feelings in the ghetto. That would be ray cist.
Well, it would be too easy to just grow the crops on a plat of land. Much more sensible to build a building, import the dirt, import the water, etc. etc. PG Barnum must be wondering just how gullible we have become.....
In theory yes; the problem is when certain communities don't have respect for property or labor, which is why they wind up living in food deserts in the first place.
Yeah, you’re so right…. I’m currently volunteering to help design a community garden … in a rural area … where nearly everyone has access to land but doesn’t use it. Oh wait… they do use it - for junked cars ( just needs a transmission), trash piles ( pile has to get big enough before it’s worth a trip to the dump), barking dogs that are fenced every day of their lives, or the yard is kept as a barren landscape so they don’t have to labor, or so they can see the thieves coming.
Have you seen that thing? I've seen it described as a prison, a dumpster, and of course Mr. Kunstler featured it on his "ugliest architecture known to man" posting. Whoever designed this thing has some serious issues!
Don’t know whether the promo-lit is a bucket or a barrel of BS; but I feel embarrassed for the architect.
On the other hand, the roof-top garden on the building (a few blocks from the White House), where my daughter works, is harvested once a week during growing season and provides her with a lot of free vegetables, especially greens.
Read somewhere once upon a time that the reason they call Chicago "the windy city" is not on account of the weather, but on account of all the wind coming out their politician's mouths.
Woke politics meets garish architecture in one of America’s most architecturally distinguished cities. Let’s hope this wet dream never becomes reality.
Being in Houston, Mark, you should appreciate that we could literally feed the world if half of the 26 lanes on I-10, the worlds largest highway, were converted to farmland through the use of Odd-even rationing (also called odd-even road space rationing or license plate rationing) Examples: Mexico City (Hoy No Circula): Since 1989, peak hours ban based on plate parity. Delhi (2016/2019): Temporary smog measures. Santiago, Chile: Permanent since 1996. Yellowstone: Entrance rationing (odd plates odd days).
I remember this used in Denver. People needed two cars to get to work on time.
Thank you! - I was thinking this sounds like a socialist dream; control people’s free movement by way of ‘some need’…
26 lanes on the Katy Freeway (I-10 West)??? It’s a lotta lanes of concrete - but including the HOV/Toll lanes it’s 14 lanes at widest.
I have no idea how odd-even road rationing leads to being able to feed half the world. There is no shortage of farm land in Texas - even if I-10 were 46 lanes wide!
From Perplexity:I-10 (Katy Freeway) in Houston reaches its widest at 26 lanes total near Beltway 8/Gessner Road west of downtown:12 main freeway lanes (6 each direction)6 HOV/HOT managed lanes (mid-freeway)8 frontage/access roads." The point is, that at a time of food shortages and sharply increasing prices, this is a much simpler way of expanding ag acreage rather than erecting high-rise absurdities- and the land has already been graded. To John: I am not talking about exporting it, either.
Please stop doing drugs for your own good.
And non sequiturs for your own good.
Time of food shortages? Where are these food shortages happening if I might ask?
Africa like always.
Some of the best soil and weather conditions for growing stuff on the planet, yet there is a food shortage.
I'm thinking there is a human element to the problem.
There is no food shortage in Africa. There is food abundance.
Want a simple proof? Where on the planet is population growing when everywhere else it is shrinking (or at least not growing)?
No.
Just plain no.
Nonsense!
It’ll never be built. Garish architecture? How about: An architectural gender neutral imagined orgasm?
I don’t think someone like Frank Lloyd Wright, who actually cared about building structures that were in harmony with humanity and the earth, would care for this monstrosity at all.
Why are the woke so terrible at everything?
They’re just trying to make the Obama Library fit in.
No hope. It's too ugly and dystopian.
That's hysterical! Just what they need. An entire building that looks like a household dumpster next to pristine (oh, surely, it will be advertised that way - "grown above the smog and contamination") veggies.
Looks like the Eye of Sauron.
Indeed
Clown world, bubble thinking. And maybe Chicago has a few things to work out before rational folks consider investing heavily in downtown. Not least of which is the fact that most all folks everywhere don’t want the hassle of working in downtowns anymore.
Can you imagine living on a floor BELOW 3 floors of hydroponic lettuce?
Ive been to Soldier Field in the Winter.. I don’t care HOW they propose this, it will never happen. The costs (and the concept) are untenable and downright ridiculous.
:) so dumb. Hundreds of feet up in the chilly windy air of downtown Chicago.
I don't see that this solves the winter-weather-problem. It snows. It's cold - I mean, drop-dead- in-a-heartbeat cold (I live in S. GA so that kind of cold is rare - and we just had upper teens for a week!). And I've not heard anyone say whether it's cheaper than the grocery - which, in case anyone noticed, the prices are NOT going down at WalMart, the largest purchaser of food in the country. They aren't eating the tariff costs.
Weather = Geoengineering
Glad you mentioned this. This is the next dam to break. The spraying is so in our faces at this point that even normies around me sometimes comment on it.
Oh, the tariff costs are being eaten by the other nations corporations who are absorbing the tariffs.
The other increase in prices you see are entirely the result of one thing, and one thing only - the continued printing of "money" from nothing. That money also goes to certain people first, who benefit. Then prices rise and you and I do not benefit, we have reduced purchasing power.
It's why the rich are getting richer and the poor are still poor and he middle class is being destroyed. And you know who loves when all that happens? The very communists who run our nation! They hate the middle class and need it destroyed to usher in their communist utopia.
We need a lesson on isms. Cause I think it looks like fascism walks like fascism and most definitely talks like fascism. But there’s the A one as well so I think we need a lesson.
Why are they called woke when they never ever waken to reality?
We really need a different word to describe the dangerous idiocy, don't we?
Perpetual Dreaming!
Yes food deserts exist because of horrible political decisions. Like in Baltimore when they damaged a CVS during riots. Large corporations will cut their continual losses and leave so you end up with food deserts when supermarkets close and medicine deserts because pharmacies also close.
In ghettos/poverty-stricken areas, there is a ton of shoplifters stealing from these stores so the stores pack up and leave. Hence, food deserts.
Some folks have to trade their food snaps for cash to buy other things they need. A twelve-pack of Corona and a pack of Marlboros will run you about $40 in Chicago. Per day.
Priorities, Bro.
That’s not stealing; that’s reparations!
Looting has ramifications!
As long as it is stupid rich people putting their own money at risk, I have zero problem. Where the problem will probably come from is that these stupid people think taxpayers need to subsidize this lunacy. Food deserts are a man made problem where the people causing the problem are also the ones upset at the results of their own thievery. Try suggesting to their lib pols that the reason for food deserts are an over abundance of thieves in the ghetto and that if people would not steal they would have all kinds of stores opening up but......the truth hurts and we cannot have hurt feelings in the ghetto. That would be ray cist.
The thieves are all up to their eyeballs in taxpayer $$$.
Well, it would be too easy to just grow the crops on a plat of land. Much more sensible to build a building, import the dirt, import the water, etc. etc. PG Barnum must be wondering just how gullible we have become.....
Well, there's a retard up there^ that thinks if they take out half of a highway in Houston we can feed the world, so...
I believe he meant the land would be better suited for farming.
He must not be an American since there is plenty of fallow land not being used across America.
Big Ag really must hate this idea of buildings being used to grow food.
“Experts” are nothing if not self important fart sniffers.
"Experts" and "Consultants".
Where would the world be without "Consultants"?
Community Greenhouses around the city would solve the problem for fraction of the cost.
In theory yes; the problem is when certain communities don't have respect for property or labor, which is why they wind up living in food deserts in the first place.
Yeah, you’re so right…. I’m currently volunteering to help design a community garden … in a rural area … where nearly everyone has access to land but doesn’t use it. Oh wait… they do use it - for junked cars ( just needs a transmission), trash piles ( pile has to get big enough before it’s worth a trip to the dump), barking dogs that are fenced every day of their lives, or the yard is kept as a barren landscape so they don’t have to labor, or so they can see the thieves coming.
It’s gonna be interesting 😆🦋
what about the Obama library, James? A masterpiece.
Have you seen that thing? I've seen it described as a prison, a dumpster, and of course Mr. Kunstler featured it on his "ugliest architecture known to man" posting. Whoever designed this thing has some serious issues!
If ever we needed proof that Vogons are real.
Or the Borg.
Harvest rainwater from clouds? LOL! The proposed stupidity would be within feet of one of the largest freshwater lakes on Earth!
these architects are no doubt, at this very minute, harassing ICE officers in MNPL/St. Paul.
Don’t know whether the promo-lit is a bucket or a barrel of BS; but I feel embarrassed for the architect.
On the other hand, the roof-top garden on the building (a few blocks from the White House), where my daughter works, is harvested once a week during growing season and provides her with a lot of free vegetables, especially greens.
"Well, let folly be our cloak, a veil before the eyes of the Enemy!" - Sauron
One good storm off the lake and it would more than likely go down in history along with the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald.
Good they don’t call it the Windy City.
Read somewhere once upon a time that the reason they call Chicago "the windy city" is not on account of the weather, but on account of all the wind coming out their politician's mouths.
Lol. Both work!
Somebody already said this, but my first thought was "just need the Eye of Sauron" at the top. Or would that really be the "Eye of Obama"?