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PaxAlto's avatar

Stupid. There's only one country in that region with illegal nukes, and it's not Iran. It's also unrivaled in the "nutty" aggression category. Worse, they have the chutzpah to to perform all manners of heinous acts because they know the US has their back no matter what they do and even foots the bill with our own blood and treasure. Disgusting.

rd3's avatar

If a nuke is launched in our lifetime, it will either come from Israel, or from the US at Israel's behest.

Cankerpuss's avatar

I have never in my entire 51 years of living on this big blue marble spinning throughout the cosmos have been threatened or bothered by anyone from Iran. Never. I've known some people from Iran. They were very kind hearted and decent human beings. I do not perceive Iran as an immediate threat to the USA. So why in the hell are we fucking around over there? Iran is on the verge of collapse due to its water supply issues. The USA needs to stop meddling in the affairs of foreign nations.

I agree with you. The USA is the only nation to actually drop a nuclear weapon on another nation. We dropped a few of them on Japan, if I recall. What is to stop the good ole righteous USA from doing it again in Israel's behalf?

I thought Mr. Trump was a man who pursued peace yet the wars continue and the entanglements are growing.

Mr. Kunstler's well written essay about the numerous and messy foreign entanglements brings to mind George Washington's admonishments in his fare well address that the United States stay out of and avoid all foreign entanglements. Boy was he right. It's too bad nobody listened to him.

Alex Thrace's avatar

I have never been made aware of any sexual blackmail ring trafficking and murdering children run out of Tehran.

I cannot say the same thing about Tel Aviv.

Ray Bob's avatar

Would you mind sharing with us the proof you to back up your claim, is it just your opinion ? or do you have facts? if you have facts ,please share them with us, otherwise you're just another guy that hates Jews. And quite frankly I've grown very bored with you and your kind and I'm not Jewish just so everybody knows I am a practicing Christian I read the Bible and I know what it says

MCL's avatar

The aim of US politics is wealth extraction, the transfer of wealth from the private sector to the public sector. The system oscillates between welfare queens and warmongers. We are in the warmonger phase. If it goes badly we will be moved into the welfare queen phase. The mainstream media is complicit.

Carl L. McWilliams's avatar

Yes you are correct: "The aim of US politics is not the defense of the US Constitution, but instead the transfer of wealth from the productive private sector - to the Leviathan public sector."

P. Robert Thorson's avatar

When you're "in charge" of a faltering Empire, maintaining the evil status of an enemy or two is critical to the script. I can think of a few Black Swans coming out of this adventure - the Persians have a long history of playing a part of the Western Theater.

The first that comes to mind is blaming Iranian terrorists for something done by one of the Intel agencies - perhaps another Lee Harvey Oswald moment is coming. Or perhaps this "action" becomes the catalyst for WWIII, with most of the globe against the USA as we clearly have few friends left.

Whatever comes about, it's got the smell of something Big.

elysianfield's avatar

CP,

Ain't no Iranian ever try to steal my bicycle....

rd3's avatar

I had a Keynesian / Marxist economics professor in college who was from Iran. Apart from him, I have no malice towards any Iranians.

Carl L. McWilliams's avatar

Yes, I too had Keynesian / Marxist economics professors in college, at the University of California (BA-1975)

Night owl's avatar

"Illegal nukes"

May be the funniest thing I have heard in 2026.

Mitch's avatar

send in the international police to arrest them! lol

stebben l kruizmann's avatar

Your mother wears a burka.

PaxAlto's avatar

Right, because Hasids sport the latest, trendy fashions. Try again, Schlomo

AwakeNotWoke's avatar

POTUS Trump is just waiting for Bibi to give the order. POTUS Trump's organ grinder's role is reminiscent of the "senior Gulf official" around the time of the 1990-1991 Gulf War who, referring to American soldiers who were there to defend Kuwait, was reported in "The New Yorker" as saying: "You think I want to send my teen-aged son to die for Kuwait? ... We have our white slaves from America to do that".

James Howard Kunstler's avatar

Oh, please. Israel is playing for Western Civ, Jihad is not. What part of that is so hard to understand?

Carlos's avatar

What part of "Israel pays LIP service" to Western Civ - don't you understand?

Michael Huye's avatar

James, Israel plays for Israel. Certainly not for Western Civ. I've read the Talmud.

Cosmo T Kat's avatar

B.S. Jim. They are playing to destroy Western Civilization while using the USA to enable their M.E. imperialism some may refer to as lebensraum, but that's also a cover for the theft of scarce resources. Just like the great replacement in USA the Israeli hegemony backed by the USA in the M.E. is no theory, it's strategic. Why? Money, Jim, it is always about the money. With money you obtain power and with power you can rule over others.

UncleBob9's avatar

Too bad we bankrupted ourselves to rebuild the world after WW2 while also squandering trillions of dollars to bribe people to sit on their asses and watch tv or play video games while getting high, so that our enemies have all the money and we have shitloads of worthless stuff.

In any case, 🇮🇱 doesn't run 🇺🇸 despite the Left's Jew-hating agitprop seeking to undermine Trump and Netanyahu in hopes of building a one-world, YHWH-hating, secular text-based society similar to the shit in China. If you fuckers want to live in a surveillance state to save you from Trump and "them fuckin' Jewboys," you're morons. No Jews, no Christianity, no salvation, and traditional values go away. But sure, buy the bullshit the propagandists on the news tell you. After all, in the end times, the world is supposed to constantly hate and attack Israel simply for existing. It's a stumbling block for humanity intentionally placed here by God to impede humanity's love of war and self-destructive. The fact that Israel is led by imperfect people and sometimes does things that piss off the Islamists who'd kill every Jew and Christian on Earth doesn't mean Israel wants to rule the world; however, Islamists and the Chinese both believe they're going to rule the world, and they're going to find a way to achieve thei goals -- including by buying stakes in American media so they can manipulate Americans into hating "dem damn Jewboys."

JohnAZ's avatar

JHK

You seem to attract the anti-Israel crowd to CFN.

AwakeNotWoke's avatar

I have no problem with Americans dying for Israel. It's better than Israelis dying for Israel.

Cankerpuss's avatar

I sense the sarcasm. I don't want to see ANY American dying for some shithole foreign nation. If they are going to die they should die defending the USA from a LEGITIMATE threat. Iran is not a threat to the USA. Period.

JohnAZ's avatar

Were e you around in 1973 or 1978 for the oil shortages? The geopolitics surrounding oil availability makes the USA defending sea lanes and oil infrastructure imperative. We know what a world “a quart low” from oil will look like, and it is worth fighting to preserve the free access of oil. The American way of life depends on oil and water being available for reasonable cost.

Iran IS a significant threat to the USA in its wanting to control the flow of oil from the Persian Gulf. If it were not for the US presence, Iran would use its base at Bandar Abbas to block the Straits of Hormuz. If that were to happen, well, let’s hope it is not allowed to.

BTW, are you aware that the US responsibility to defend the Gulf is because of treaties with Saudi Arabia in 1943? Not Israel.

Israel has turned a desert into a habitable area. I would love to see it in partnership with other ME countries to develop the desert. Iran’s prerogative is to block the Abraham Accords at all cost because its leader’s Egos cannot stand the competition. Islam is an excuse, it is the Persian curse.

rd3's avatar

"I have no problem with Americans dying for Israel."

Thanks.

Cosmo T Kat's avatar

Therein lies the true feelings and mentality of Zionists.

AwakeNotWoke's avatar

I'd prefer Americans didn't die but if it's a choice between Americans and Israelis it's better if it's Americans. Whether in Korea, Vietnam, Serbia, Afghanistan or Iraq, Israelis have fought beside America in every war America has ever started and it's time for Americans to carry more of the load.

Cankerpuss's avatar

You can't be serious. This has to be a sarcastic comment or you are out trolling today. How can you say Americans need to carry more of the load? You do realize that the balance of America's $37 trillion debt burden is from the Country's spending its strength and means in foreign lands, right? Americans need to wise up, become an isolationist nation for about 20 years, fix itself, and tell the rest of the world to go fuck itself.

If you are troll and you laid a trap, I bit, hook line and sinker.

Dennis L. Merwood's avatar

"Israelis have fought beside America in every war America has ever started" What? Huh! Got a source for that claim my man.

The US gets nothing in return for the economic and military support that it provides to the ethnosupremacist apartheid nation of Israel. In fact, the US suffers internationally on account of its close relationship with Israel because of its constant vetoing of UN Resolutions intended to punish Israel for its human rights violations.

There is no alliance, and Israel is not an ally. Its government does not behave as an ally does, it has never fought alongside US forces in any of our foreign wars. Its interests are not aligned with the US's as an ally’s should be. There are no formal treaties and no binding obligations that require the governments to do anything for the other.

Pundits always grossly exaggerates the extent of the ties between the two governments. Israel is routinely called "our most important ally” in the region, or even "our most cherished ally” in all the world. These are ideological assertions that are not grounded in reality. Dozens of other states all over the world are better allies to the US than the “most cherished ally” is. And they don’t preside over an illegal occupation and decades of abuses and crimes against the Palestinian people living under Israeli occupation. Now being ethnically cleansed in a genocide with US supplied bombs dropped on refugee camps and hospitals.

The effect of this constant repetition is to make the US/Israel relationship to be extremely important to US interests when it is not. It promotes an illusion of a common interest where no common interest exists ~ and has suckered the US into being complicit in a genocide.

The US taxpayers are having billions of their taxes stolen and given to ethnosupremacist apartheid Israel. Americans do not have Universal healthcare. But pay for Israel to have Universal healthcare. And the US is $35 trillion in debt. Israel has made themselves pariahs in the eyes of the World. This is not going to end well for Israel.

Cosmo T Kat's avatar

LoL and quite stupid. How did Israeli's participate in any American war or conflict before 1948? If you were to say Jews who are American citizens you might have an argument, but to say Israeli's...too funny.

Vegan Shark's avatar

Israel did not exist at the time of the last Really Really Big War, also known as World War II, so that doesn't count. I don't believe many Israelis fought alongside us in Korea or Vietnam. That leaves the US's monkeyshines in the Middle East, which no doubt had Israeli underwriting, but where it also had a strong self-interest.

All in all, not a splendid showing of hands-across-the-water.

As for carrying more of the load, good grief! The US has jumped through hoops to provide weaponry (at a nice profit for our war industries) to Israel. I'd say it's past time for Israel to spend more of the shekels.

cs whidden's avatar

You should be strung up for that stupid remark.

NO American blood should be spilled in defense of the zio-nazis!!!

NY Nanny's avatar

Thanks for that James.

Bookoodinkydow's avatar

Wish we would follow the advice of the Founding Fathers, but that would be racist, or some kind of “ist”.

rd3's avatar

Go not abroad in search of monsters to destroy.

Cankerpuss's avatar

Avoid partisan politics and foreign entanglements. Be friendly with our neighbors and trade with them but stay out of their business.

Ben's avatar

Meanwhile, Mexico uses us as a pressure relief valve!

With friends and neighbors like Mexico and Canada, who needs enemies?

Cankerpuss's avatar

Mexico is a true enemy to the USA. They use all of their consulates scattered throughout the USA to preach anti-American propaganda laden text books to young people who were brought here illegally. They believe the entire southwest quadrant of the USA should be back under Mexican rule. Utah, Nevada, California, Arizona, New Mexico and parts of Colorado and Wyoming, all belong to Mexico, or so they believe. They are actively undermining the USA in everything they do. They have a name for this territory. Azetlan. Their invasionary forces are voting and changing the politics of our nation. Large swaths of area in California now resemble Tijuana.

They are the enemy and we ignore them. We should have our military lining up to invade Mexico City and annex the entire shit hole nation instead of spending billions of dollars we don't have pissing around with the water starved Iranians.

Ben's avatar
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La Rasa and La Mecha groups spell it out and have for the entire time I have been alive.

Might they try to finally implement the plan of San Diego?

By the way, we already seized Mexico City and stupidly gave it back.

A drive through parts of North Hollywood has more Mexican flags than American ones.

Pissing around with Iran now may save hundreds of millions of lives later.

Do some research into their 12'er cult beliefs.

They want a massive war to bring on the last Mahdi.

Cankerpuss's avatar

I'm certainly not an expert on Iran, only the bits and pieces of what I read, hear and see. The fact is, we as a nation are broke. We can no longer afford to be the world police when our own nation is crumbling here at home. Iran doesn't even have any water and were talking about evacuating the city of Tehran, a city of over 3 million people. I just don't see these middle east nations being the big world threat that they are hyped up to be.

But, I'm just a jack mormon living in the mountains of north eastern Utah. What do I know?

Cosmo T Kat's avatar

or cherished M.E. allies who stab us in the back at every chance.

Bookoodinkydow's avatar

Exactly. I prefer being a republic rather than an empire.

rd3's avatar
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That died so long ago, there is not even the faintest memory of it. My daughter asked me why every book I read is over 100 years old. I told her that I just want to have some connection to what we used to be.

Mitch's avatar

so true, same here.

Cankerpuss's avatar

The empire is dying as well. The empire is broke, busted, bankrupt. Our leaders know it. The USA has spent its strength and means warring in foreign lands and we are now paying the ultimate price for that warmongering.

Mitch's avatar

there's more than enough domestically.

Alan's avatar

All of the post-WW2 presidents except Trump have entangled America in foreign disputes. The only way to untangle the mess is to settle disputes created and fomented by the UK/Davos in the hope of drawing the U.S. and Russia into a war neither could win.

Trump, Putin and Xi are all sick of the constant chaos the UK and France drum up with their Mideast assets: Israel and Iran. The EU and UK hold on Iranian mullahs is the target. Trump is asking Iran to shed their role as an agent of chaos and take up the mantle of a civilized nation and join the free world to unleash the creative power of their people.

Trump is not beholden to Netanyahu. The GOP House and Senate are beholden to Netanyahu. That's the political reality at home. Trump is trying to broker an end to the chaos with as little to no bloodshed as possible so that the U.S. can leave the mideast and focus on America and the Monroe Doctrine.

As JHK said, "The art of the deal is not for sissies."

Gym+Fritz's avatar

“ . . and join the free world” - hopefully not like the UK, France, or Deutschland, hopefully more like Hungry, Serbia, Slovakia, or Poland.

Ben's avatar
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Poland for the win!

Imagine that all the jokes made at the Polish people's expense, and now the joke is on the rest of Europe.

rd3's avatar

What did Jesus say to the polacks?

Ben's avatar

Nothing, of course.

rd3's avatar

"Shhhhh. Play dumb until I get back."

rd3's avatar

"Trump is not beholden to Netanyahu."

How do you figure? He took $100 million from the Adelson's. The same Adelson's who flew Jonathan Pollard back to Israel on a private jet, to a hero's welcome.

Alan's avatar

So what? Did you ever consider that maybe the Adelsons wanted Israel out from under the thumb of the Brits as much as Trump does? The Brits were behind October 8 just as they are behind the recent internal turmoil in Iran.

Ben's avatar

It is impossible not to be entangled.

Cankerpuss's avatar

They were all just a bunch of rich, slave owning old white guys. In America today it is a sin to be a heterosexual white guy. Just watch the teevee. White guys are all but banned from just about every show, unless, of course, they need a really bad antagonist, who is almost always portrayed by a white guy.

David Veale's avatar

They're allowed to be white, but only if they're also gay -- because that cancels out the badness of being white.

Kathy Christian's avatar

Kind of like negatives and positives in math

Kathy Christian's avatar

Or they need to make them look like buffoons in commercials

Cankerpuss's avatar

Homer Simpson. Lots of people think he's funny. I don't. His character serves only to denigrate and mock the white male.

elysianfield's avatar

...Me love your comment...long time....

Ben's avatar

Great in concept, but it took months to go from one point to another.

History shows the US minds its own business, and the world goes to war, and by world, I mean Europe twice!

The Middle East has never been a peaceful area.

Imagine if they were left to their own devices to make war on each other and everyone else.

I wish other Western powers would step up and keep the peace.

Danimal28's avatar

Russians historically hate Islamic whack-jobs. Trump is notoriously unpredictable and that is good. The one thing we do know is he is the first president in memory who doesn't enjoy killing people.

The world is supposedly in chaos; certainly with immigration, but I think we are undergoing the great economic adjustment and Iran will finally make the right adjustments.

The only thing we have to fear is the Globalists starting with the Bank of International Settlements.

Cankerpuss's avatar

Unchecked immigration has muddied the cultural waters of all western nations. Borders, language and culture are meaningless these days.

Dennis L. Merwood's avatar

"A Nation without borders is no Nation at all" - Ronald Reagan

rd3's avatar

And right after he said that, he legalized 12 million illegals.

Cankerpuss's avatar

And destroyed California. Once those illegals were legalized the political structure of that state when blue and has gone down hill ever since. Before Reagan it was called the Golden State for a reason.

rd3's avatar

He also signed the state abortion law.

Todd's avatar

Michael Savage sounded the alarm 25 years ago! Borders, language and culture

Ben's avatar
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Not entirely.

Going to my local Costco shows we are awash in the mutts of the world.

It is better than it was two years ago, but I really do want to learn the words "run Immigration" in Chinese, Somali and Russian.

I already know it in Spanish!

Cankerpuss's avatar

In my community there used to be large gangs of military aged male mutts queuing up for truck driving schools and loiter about in parking lots until it was their turn. They would temporarily board in a rental house, dozens of them, spend 10 days here, get their CDLs and then would disappear into the rest of the USA. They never bothered anyone and kept to themselves but there was also a creepy feeling when they were encountered. They certainly weren't Americans and had no interest in becoming Americans.

However, once Trump took office and ICE began actively enforcing IMMIGRATION LAW, these truck driving schools have vanished, the rental boarding houses for the illegals are empty and the roving gangs of military aged mutts have disappeared.

Kudos to Mr. Trump on that one!

Ben's avatar

And the price of everything is slowly spiraling down.

Cosmo T Kat's avatar

Be specific, what is on the downward price spiral?

Ben's avatar

Across the board, everything until this latest round of saber-rattling and build-up to take out shite run Iran has caused gas prices to go up .20 cents at least in already over taxed California.

Two years ago, gas and Diesel were approaching $7 a gallon.

Eggs down!

Overall, food prices are going down.

Gas down!

Oil Down!

Housing prices are sagging!

Inflation is way down!

The only thing way up is stupidity.

Mark Livingston's avatar

Just get a whistle from the "allies". I've wanted to get one and just walk down the street blowing it. Some noise in the Signal chat, pun intended.

Ben's avatar

If only more "normal" people would engage them in this way.

Cosmo T Kat's avatar

Who are the people behind this chaos, C Puss?

Howard Skillington's avatar

There is no plausible scenario in which the US benefits from a large-scale attack on Iran. Iran would almost certainly block the Strait of Hormuz, send oil prices sky high, wreck our economy, and send the shaky market over the brink.

Iran is also quite capable of sinking our antiquated aircraft carriers, along with thousands of our troops – bearing in mind that the American public is traumatized when our persistent military mischief making occasionally causes us to lose even a handful.

Any of the above would forfeit any chance of the Elephants winning the midterm elections, instantly making Trump an ineffectual lame duck for the remainder of his term.

Against all of this, what benefit would the US enjoy in the improbable event of an easy, low-cost victory over Iran? Nothing much. Why, then, is this idiotic exercise proceeding? Who on earth can have the power to make the United States of America risk all for their sole benefit? Israel, of course.

Is there anything that can break their lethal hold on our geopolitics and free us to pursue our best interests? This may be it. Either this exercise fizzles out and looses us from Israel’s thrall, or our nation suffers a lethal self-inflicted wound while a tiny, insignificant country in the Middle East laughs at our demise.

rd3's avatar

"instantly making Trump an ineffectual lame duck for the remainder of his term."

Hasn't Trump been a lame duck this whole time anyway? Anything he has accomplished has been with executive orders or directives to various agencies, all of which will be reversed the first day that the next globo-homo-Marxist takes office.

Cankerpuss's avatar

Well said, RD3. Trump can't make law and without a willing Congress everything he is doing is nothing more than a temporary band aid. It will be ripped off in three days once the Democrats regain the majority and the power.

Kathy Christian's avatar

It won't take three days. They've probably already gotten the executive orders written.

Kathy Christian's avatar

Boy, who pissed in your Cheerios this morning, rd3?

rd3's avatar

Do you disagree with anything I wrote?

Alan's avatar

I disagree with just about everything you have written on this article today. You're stuck in a false premise--that Trump is a sock puppet for Israel and lack the intellect or demeanor to consider other possibilities.

rd3's avatar

It's definitely intellect. I lack the intellect.

elysianfield's avatar

RD and I would suggest that the state of Israel has undue influence on our governing entities.

Say it ain't so.

Show your work.

Alan's avatar

As I said, Israel owns the GOP Congress and the GOP Senate.

Learn to read.

Cankerpuss's avatar

Well said, Howard Skillington. Iran is no threat to the USA. Period. There is no clear benefit gained from the billions of dollars being spent to fund our pesky military's adventures over there. Get them home. Use them to rook out the illegal aliens and send them home. They are the true threat to the USA. Not Iran. I'm sick of this shit.

Mark Livingston's avatar

If USA abandons Israel it will be a clear sign (as if one is needed after the Ukraine ) that any alliance with USA is a lousy idea. That's our interest. As well as the traditional post WWII Judeo Christian alliance governing us and our culture, with all its faults.

Howard Skillington's avatar

A better idea: drop rotten alliances in favor valuable ones.

Cankerpuss's avatar

Mark, the USA is busted. Broke. Bankrupt. The money is gone. There is no money. The USA has spent its strength and means making war in too many nations. Once the reserve status of our currently is gone so will our ability to fight everyone's wars.

We should have free trade with other nations but stay out of their wars, their politics and their economies.

Iran poses no threat to the USA. For God's sake they don't even have enough water for their cities and were considering evacuating Tehran, a City of more than 3 million people.

The USA needs to take a time out from world affairs, bring the troops home, kick out all the interlopers, fix its infrastructure, clean up its politics and focus on its own needs for about 20 years.

Alan's avatar

Howard Skillington writes: "There is no plausible scenario in which the US benefits from a large-scale attack on Iran. Iran would almost certainly block the Strait of Hormuz, send oil prices sky high, wreck our economy, and send the shaky market over the brink.

"Iran is also quite capable of sinking our antiquated aircraft carriers, along with thousands of our troops – bearing in mind that the American public is traumatized when our persistent military mischief making occasionally causes us to lose even a handful."

No doubt there is a huge risk of this spinning out of control. But, why didn't Iran do all of the above during the 12-day war of June 2025? They can only do that with help from Russia or China, both of whom sat out the 12-day war and are sitting out this current showdown. Why? Because Russia and China hate the City of London more than Trump does. The civilized world is sick of the leadership in Iran and Israel, both of whom are pawns of the City of London.

Howard Skillington's avatar

We are among the pawns of the City of London.

Alan's avatar

Yes, we have been, and that is what Trump is trying to end. It seems to me London is getting pretty desperate if they have to roll out Hillary again.

Howard Skillington's avatar

We must hope that they fail before we do.

rd3's avatar

"They are as crazy as the ladies of The View and their millions of Cluster-B followers."

But they have more estrogen.

Crixcyon's avatar
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As we have seen over thousands of years, war solves all problems. It gives the military something to do. It wastes money that government doesn't know what to do with. It creates the need for "rebuilding" and going into more debt. It gives the soldiers pride in that they have murdered an enemy. And it subtlety enhances the depopulation agenda. All boxes checked.

pyrrhus's avatar

No, JHK, Iran is Shia muslim, who are not Jihadists.....and Israel is the nuclear armed bunch of crazies in the Middle East....There is only one country causing terror and violence....the country whose religion Jesus called "the Synagogue of Satan"....and Trump really needs to avoid a foolish war with Iran promoted by the nutcases in Israel, because the fallout could be catastrophic.....

ArnoldF's avatar

Irans leaders believe in demonic entity called the Mahdi--yes they are global jihadists--pull your head out of the sand. And you are totally twisting the scriptures to your own end--be careful. Israel is our ally in the middle east who actually promotes freedom and democratic values.

Ben's avatar
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They believe the last Mahdi or the twelfth imam a real doomsday cult.

While Israel is a proxy, not sure they are actually a true friend.

We use them, and they use us.

rd3's avatar

"And, let’s just suppose that the US objective is actually regime change in Iran."

Regime change has worked so well for the US in the past. Why not try it again?

The Illusion Of Human Progress's avatar

Let’s face it: the mullahs are hardcore for Jihad and martyrdom.

And the U.S. wants to control the world, just ask Marco Rubio. So what's the difference?

Ben's avatar
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Are we throwing fags off buildings or forcing them into sex changes?

Are we throwing acid in women's faces for showing their hair, beating them, or throwing them in jail?

At the moment, the US has one proxy fighter in the region while Iran has been supporting, training, and funding dozens.

One of them has been firing poorly made missiles that can't hit the broadside of a barn unless it's a slow, defenseless oil tanker.

Pretty sure the Sunni countries around Iran would quietly love someone else to fix the problem started by England, the US, and BP oil many moons ago.

While this is happening, I suspect the Saudis will deal with Yemen yet again.

Which, by the way, was an actual genocide.

Night owl's avatar

Why does the US have a proxy in the ME?

I know why, naturally, but I want to hear you say it.

Ben's avatar

Why control, dumb ass.

Night owl's avatar

Attempt your response in comprehensible English, please?

Ben's avatar

Or you could literally go pound sand.

Night owl's avatar

That would certainly make life easier for you.

UncleBob9's avatar

The difference is, the Islamust Shi'ite wackos wouldn't be in charge. Also, Trump's vision is to restore American greatness rather than continue the Globalists' program of managed decline of our country. If you like Venezudlan rapists and murderers roaming the streets of Dubuque, IA whole Schwab clones undermine our currency and industries, that's your right, but it'll lead to your -- our -- ruin.

rd3's avatar

Dubuque, IA did that to themselves 30 years before Biden was president.

UncleBob9's avatar

OMG, you're defending the incestuous coot, Ice Cream Joe, who showered with his daughter and drove her mad so she became a sex addict, from criticism because the Venezuelan gangs Maduro sent to Middle America with funding by Soros and Gates by saying it happened in 1991-95 because of Dubuque's local laws, not Biden's ruinous open borders? What the fuck are you talking about?

rd3's avatar

Do you know the history of Dubuque? In the early 90's the city council declared that Dubuque was "too white" and that they needed to "enrich" and "diversify" their city. So, they built giant public housing structures and actively recruited inner-city blacks from Chicago, Cleveland, Gary, etc. to move there and "enrich" their city. That had nothing to do with Joe Biden.

If it were up to me, I'd build a railroad line down the center of the country straight to Guatemala and I'd load every single person who doesn't bear resemblance to a Mayflower descendant on the train.

UncleBob9's avatar

I picked Dubuque out of the air as a representative city in Middle America. I'd never heard of the plan to "diversify" the city by importing POC from inner cities. Sounds kind of like a test run for what Biden did (or allowed while Obama's people ran the country, anyway). Guess I should've picked Council Bluffs, IA or Goodland, KS instead.

Ben's avatar

If it were up to me, I'd build a railroad line down the center of the country straight to Guatemala and I'd load every single person who doesn't bear resemblance to a Mayflower descendant on the train. rd3

That seems a rather stupid idea.

rd3's avatar

Consider it Works Progress Administration Part II

Ben's avatar

Bob, that was hardly a defense of puddin head Joe.

UncleBob9's avatar

RD3 explained what he meant. I was unaware of what happened in Dubuque under Bush the Elder and Bubba.

Ben's avatar

Neither was I.

One can't know what happens in every backwater corner of the globe.

rd3's avatar

"What difference at this point does it make?"

UncleBob9's avatar

Speaking of Cankles, there are rumors that the old bag may run for POTUS again as a way to keep herself and her husband, The Tobacconist, safe from the Epstein investigation. Just when you thought you were safe, that short, fat, hideous hag drags herself back onto the stage like Grendel's mother....

Liber8or's avatar
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DNC already floating the names of Pete Buttplug, Kamala and Hillary for 2028. And Gruesome Newsome.

Kathy Christian's avatar

I read that it's shaping up to be Newsome/Buttigieg, but whoever runs needs the black vote to win, and two white guys aren't going to cut it, so I'll go out on a limb and predict Harris/Buttigieg.

Kathy Christian's avatar

That'll satisfy the black, female and gay contingents of the population.

Michael Huye's avatar

Choosing between controlling the world or being subject to it, which do you prefer for the USA? I know my decision.

Jack Perry's avatar

Oh, wow, war in the Middle East, just what I voted for. Oh, wait, no, I voted AGAINST that. As usual, the American voter keeps dreaming of someone, ANYONE, listening to him and responding to his not their priorities. I love Trump but not the sabre-rattling at my not his expense. Sooner or later ignoring the voters leads to heads on poles and pitchforks

rd3's avatar

The only way I'd be in favor of war with Iran is if Jared Kushner were the first man in on the ground invasion.

Marty's avatar

"The art of the deal is not for Sissy's"

I think the two failed attempts on his life is their biggest blunder...

He is going scorched earth on his (and our) enemy's...

Domestic and Foreign...

Ben's avatar

Yep, the leadership of Iran would have been better served to have just kept their mouths shut.

Forty years of big mouthitus is coming home to roost.

Night owl's avatar

What is Operation Ajax?

Tell us without using the Interwebz.

Ben's avatar

Read today's posts!

Night owl's avatar

Another unanswered question.

Aw.

Ben's avatar

It was answered but it requires research on your part.

el puma's avatar

Look at the cast of characters involved in this choreographed distraction... Graham, Huckabee, Witkoff, Kushner(!!)... the tip of the "spear"... with literally trillions of dollars of hardware at their disposal! Calling H.L. Mencken!...

Freedom 4 conservatives's avatar

No one likes to talk about it, but one of the most effective strategies in preventing a war or conflict, or to win it if it does break out is "disproportional defense." Put in its most simple guttural terms, "If you attack and kill one of us, we will kill 10,000 of yours." That is what real deterrence looks like. And the U.S. hasn't had the balls to use it since World War II. Not surprisingly, we haven't truly won a war since, and our enemies have attacked us repeatedly since.

President Trump understands that radical Islam with nuclear weapons would absolutely use them against non-Islamists, UNLESS the consequences for doing so would be so immense that using them would be suicidal. Remember, the roots of radical Islam are about killing the "infidel."

So, President Trump should publicly inform the Iran regime that any attack by Iran or their surrogates on the U.S. military or on U.S. citizens will be met with a devastatingly brutal response, and that any weapon in the U.S. military arsenal is on the table to be used if Iran makes such an attack. President Trump should also make clear that such military action by the U.S., while directed at destroying the Iran military capability and its murderous regime, can make no guarantees against causing collateral civilian casualties.

So, if, for example, Iran launched a drone or missile attack against a U.S. Navy aircraft carrier, the U.S. should immediately launch a massive, lengthy, sustained bombing attack to destroy every single Iranian military target and every major government installation in the entirety of Iran. Oh, but what about the War Powers Act? It contains a 60-day window for military action--the U.S. military would have all of Iran's offensive military capability in rubble long before 60 days passed.

And what about Russia? Islam has been a pain in the ass for Russia since the days when it was the Soviet Union. The Russians will likely sit this one out--they've got their own problems.

Night owl's avatar

That is only deterrence if the other side believes they will lose or win in a Pyrrhic Victory of sorts.

Deterrence is best exemplified by the MAD doctrine--you can wipe me out, but you'll get wiped out, too. Total destruction, in other words.

rd3's avatar

"our enemies have attacked us repeatedly since"

When has the US been attacked?

Ben's avatar

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_US_bases_during_the_Gaza_war

Endless cyber-attacks.

Endless regional attacks on US forces.

Iran has been at war with the US since 1979.

rd3's avatar

The US has 800 known military bases around the world. The US has meddled and fucked with almost every country in the world. We provoke them, they don't provoke us.

Night owl's avatar

In this particular case, we sowed the seeds of hatred ourselves in 1953. A common theme in US military history and statecraft.

rd3's avatar

Yep. We need to look in the mirror.

Ben's avatar

And they provoke back, especially Death to America -Iran

Do keep up.

Carlos's avatar
3hEdited

Israel doesn't "have a point". The only the fight Iran has started in 80 years - is one with Iraq.

Israel is the terror organization of the region - causing Lebanon, Syria, Libya and Yemen - to be destroyed ( the last due to Saudi Arabia's hatred of Yemenis).

Israel is the bully - with the psychotic murderers there having the greater Israel Project their reason for being.

Of course, Trump will do their bidding because he can't stop fellating Netanyahu ( who killed Charlie Kirk - Trump's "erstwhile" son - with Trump's inner circle complicity).

If the US attacks Iran - we should start a revolution - here. Because Israel will never stop it's agenda against everyone who isn't Israeli.

Freedom 4 conservatives's avatar

I get sick of reading anti-Semite horseshit about Israel every time that the U.S. contemplates defending itself against an Islamist regime. If Israel did not exist at all, the radical Islamists would still be gunning to rid the Earth of "infidels"--"infidels" meaning any non-Islamist in Islamist ideology. I don't consider Israel any "angel" of a country--they have plenty of their own dirty laundry--but the common anti-American propaganda is to call the U.S. protecting its own population and interests from Islamic-sponsored terrorism, violence, and war as being a "surrogate" for Israel. For the record, I'm not Jewish.

Night owl's avatar

Maybe you don't understand what you are reading?

Jo Blow's avatar

Because you say so?

Or is this Israel Zion propaganda?

Let us ask the West Bank indigenous being driven off ancestral land by “settlers".

So much for “just wars"

FYI. Tucker Carlson. A powerful interview of a Christian Pastor from Bethlehem area in Israel.

https://youtu.be/M5kcYlyyMcc?si=-Hp3JzinIsb6rono

How to understand / respond to West Bank persecution in Israel.

rd3's avatar

"I'm not Jewish."

You should convert

Michael Huye's avatar

Iran is behind every sordid terrorist effort in the past 50 years. You have to NOT WANT TO KNOW if you truly believe what you typed.

William Wallace's avatar

The Islamists Fan Club were Locked and Loaded at their Keyboard ‘s this morning.

Citizen Satirist (CS)'s avatar

And so are the zionists who should be the ones out dying for Israel leaving the rest of us non-zionists Christians out of it....

Paul B. Cohen's avatar

Except in name, there is no such thing as a “non Zionist Christian.’ The Lord Jesus Christ is the Chief Zionist.

introspeck's avatar

Jewish trolls don't get to define Christianity to Christians. Go away now.

Citizen Satirist (CS)'s avatar

but they want us to die for them... the smarter ones aren't just distancing from Israel, they are running as fast as they can from Israel and from being associated with it....

Paul B. Cohen's avatar

Run to the mullahs, as fast as you can, and get your just reward.

Paul B. Cohen's avatar

You mean like the “Jewish trolls” who wrote your Bible?

Dennis L. Merwood's avatar

The Lord Jesus Christ is fiction, Paul. A myth! At worst, the world's biggest scam!

Night owl's avatar

Explain what you think they believe.

Be detailed.

Do it for us now.

Ben's avatar

Better yet YOU should show us how far left you have swung while being in Socialist Germany by telling us what you "think" for lack of a better term.

Night owl's avatar

Ben is the new Majello.

Even rage-capping now.

Ben's avatar

Not even close emphasized is more the word.

But you do you.

I notice you have demanded but never provided.

Such a sad little faux German.

Hey, next Christmas eve you should go hang out in one of the German train stations and report back to us the goings on.

Barbara Doyle's avatar

We definitely didn't vote for this. Does Trump think this will finally get him the Nobel Peace Prize? What difference does it make if Trump can seriously claim to date that he has settled 7 or 8 wars if he starts the most dangerous one of all? Pray please....

Paul B. Cohen's avatar

“Starts”? Start reading Raymond Ibrahim and get acquainted with real history.

Barbara Doyle's avatar

Read the Founding Fathers.

Paul B. Cohen's avatar

I have. Apparently you haven’t, at least not sufficiently, being unaware that Jefferson and Adams both eventually advocated for the formation and use of a federal navy to combat Islamic pirates and militants.

Barbara Doyle's avatar

Well, how about this? I just don't want another Middle East war. They've all turned out so well!

Paul B. Cohen's avatar

Now we’re getting somewhere. What needs to happen is what Barbara Doyle, in all her ignorance and uninformed enflamed emotions founded in that darkness, wants.

Dennis L. Merwood's avatar

You are a nasty piece of work, Paul.

I'm surprised you didn't accuse Barbara of being "bitter and wretched!" ~ like you accused me of.

Barbara Doyle's avatar

Didn't know there was darkness in not wanting war. You are projecting darkness.