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PaxAlto's avatar

Stupid. There's only one country in that region with illegal nukes, and it's not Iran. It's also unrivaled in the "nutty" aggression category. Worse, they have the chutzpah to to perform all manners of heinous acts because they know the US has their back no matter what they do and even foots the bill with our own blood and treasure. Disgusting.

rd3's avatar

If a nuke is launched in our lifetime, it will either come from Israel, or from the US at Israel's behest.

Cankerpuss's avatar

I have never in my entire 51 years of living on this big blue marble spinning throughout the cosmos have been threatened or bothered by anyone from Iran. Never. I've known some people from Iran. They were very kind hearted and decent human beings. I do not perceive Iran as an immediate threat to the USA. So why in the hell are we fucking around over there? Iran is on the verge of collapse due to its water supply issues. The USA needs to stop meddling in the affairs of foreign nations.

I agree with you. The USA is the only nation to actually drop a nuclear weapon on another nation. We dropped a few of them on Japan, if I recall. What is to stop the good ole righteous USA from doing it again in Israel's behalf?

I thought Mr. Trump was a man who pursued peace yet the wars continue and the entanglements are growing.

Mr. Kunstler's well written essay about the numerous and messy foreign entanglements brings to mind George Washington's admonishments in his fare well address that the United States stay out of and avoid all foreign entanglements. Boy was he right. It's too bad nobody listened to him.

Alex Thrace's avatar

I have never been made aware of any sexual blackmail ring trafficking and murdering children run out of Tehran.

I cannot say the same thing about Tel Aviv.

Ray Bob's avatar

Would you mind sharing with us the proof you to back up your claim, is it just your opinion ? or do you have facts? if you have facts ,please share them with us, otherwise you're just another guy that hates Jews. And quite frankly I've grown very bored with you and your kind and I'm not Jewish just so everybody knows I am a practicing Christian I read the Bible and I know what it says

Ernest N. Curtis's avatar

Actually, Alex is not required to provide proof of his claim; he is saying that he hasn't heard of any murder of innocent civilians (including children) by agents of the Iranian government. Neither have I. If you have evidence of that, it is up to you to supply it. On the other hand, the agents of the Israeli government openly admit to killing children. They say they are just eliminating "future" terrorists. If you accept that, it is hard to believe your claim to be a practicing Christian.

Ray Bob's avatar

I'm not really worried about what you think of my beliefs, you're just another sinner, just like me, no better, no worse.

Ray Bob's avatar

Can you show me where the Agents of the Israeli governments are making these statements? I certainly can't find them.

Lugh's avatar

Then you know Christ's words about the Synagogue of Sin, those who say they are Jews but are not, and his, "Soon they will drive you out of the synagogues and consider killing you a good deed."

The Dude Abides's avatar

Synagogue of Satan... but we get your point!!

And it's TRUE

Ray Bob's avatar

Ernest, It would seem to me if you were going to accuse the entire Jewish population of running a pedophile ring and killing children that you should have some pretty damn firm evidence to back these accusations up. Yes he should provide the proof and some of the people on here seem to be saying they know Iranian people personally, they're the most wonderful people on Earth, so therefore Iran is a wonderful place as well. Guess you're not paying attention to the people they're killing in the streets right now? I know Jews as well, done business with them ,I found them to be extremely intelligent ,honest and good people. some of the smartest people I have ever been around . I'll see your Iranians and I'll raise you Israelis .Where Do We Go From Here Skippy.

Jack Tiscione's avatar

There is no proof you would accept

Ray Bob's avatar

You don't know me Jack, how did you come to this conclusion ?once again offer proof.

Ray Bob's avatar

It's my real name and I'm not a Jew Jim and you're also aware Jesus Christ was a Jew too right

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Ray Bob's avatar

Way to respond Chucky, you are truly a retard, among retards. you'll always have that going for you Chuckie. 99 times out of 100, when there are more than two people together, you will always be the most retarded. congratulations🥳Chucky, you finally won something. I know it feels good. Your retard trophy will be in the mail soon. Just sit by the mailbox and wait Chucky. It will be there any day now.

Ben R's avatar

How would you know if there was one?

Are you Iranian?

Do you even know any?

Have you bothered to talk to any ex-Pats?

Call them Iranian at your own peril.

According to the paranoids, the child murdering cult exists across all cultures, peoples, and countries.

How would Iran be any different?

Alex Thrace's avatar

Indeed. Ground zero for most of it.

Alex Thrace's avatar

If any of you are aware of a sex trafficking and blackmail ring run out of Tehran I am all ears.

P. Robert Thorson's avatar

When you're "in charge" of a faltering Empire, maintaining the evil status of an enemy or two is critical to the script. I can think of a few Black Swans coming out of this adventure - the Persians have a long history of playing a part of the Western Theater.

The first that comes to mind is blaming Iranian terrorists for something done by one of the Intel agencies - perhaps another Lee Harvey Oswald moment is coming. Or perhaps this "action" becomes the catalyst for WWIII, with most of the globe against the USA as we clearly have few friends left.

Whatever comes about, it's got the smell of something Big.

Phil Denter's avatar

The US$ has been used to loot the world clean. Now a world war will conceal the crime.

"Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss." - The Who

"Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was." - Talking Heads

bibi's avatar

Do you ever post anything rational?

Phil Denter's avatar

What? Surely you are not now denying that TPTB stage our world wars to conceal their Uber-thefts, are you?

If so, go back to sleep. If not, wtf are you talking about?

MCL's avatar

The aim of US politics is wealth extraction, the transfer of wealth from the private sector to the public sector. The system oscillates between welfare queens and warmongers. We are in the warmonger phase. If it goes badly we will be moved into the welfare queen phase. The mainstream media is complicit.

Carl L. McWilliams's avatar

Yes you are correct: "The aim of US politics is not the defense of the US Constitution, but instead the transfer of wealth from the productive private sector - to the Leviathan public sector."

JohnAZ's avatar

Known as buying votes.

Most of the American public do not have a clue about most of the issues discussed on this blog. Lack of education, promoted by the Left, denial and apathy are the reason. The lack of identity of being an American adds to the mix, promoted again by the Left.

The world is embroiled in a Cold War, so far, to see if capitalism or various forms of socialism will dominate. The USA is on the fence as 50% of the American public is on the socialist side.

Paraphrasing Franklin,

We are creating a republic, let’s see how long it will last.

Cankerpuss's avatar

When asked what Franklyn and the others had created behind the closed doors of Independence hall, he responded: "A Republic.......If you can keep it."

Cankerpuss's avatar

Correct. It is all about money. It's always about money. Money rules everything and money destroys everything.

elysianfield's avatar

CP,

Ain't no Iranian ever try to steal my bicycle....

JohnAZ's avatar

You better keep that bike, they are trying to steal your gasoline.

The Dude Abides's avatar

Iran is trying to steal his gasoline?

JohnAZ's avatar

Yes, JJ, the Iranian want their Persia back again with domination of the Gulf output of oil. The Straits of Hormuz is a bottleneck that could allow that, except Uncle Sam will not allow it. Yes, it will affect the supply of oil.

rd3's avatar

I had a Keynesian / Marxist economics professor in college who was from Iran. Apart from him, I have no malice towards any Iranians.

Glitterpuppy's avatar

How about the Iranian dudes responsible for training and supplying a whole host of bad guys that blow up shit in other countries?

Frank Boso, Jr.'s avatar

Keynes was actually right about the economy and deficit spending. The govt just never replaces the deficits with savings in the good times.

Carl L. McWilliams's avatar

Yes, I too had Keynesian / Marxist economics professors in college, at the University of California (BA-1975)

MarshaLouise's avatar

No one really wants to see another Gaza, Hamas, etc., or do you?

Cankerpuss's avatar

Frankly speaking, it isn't my concern. I don't give a hoot or a holler what happens in Gaza. None of my affair. What I care about it what is happening here in my own Country. I've never been to Gaza. I will never go to Gaza. It doesn't concern me. What concerns me is the bankrupt state of the United States of America and what my children and grand children will inherit from us when we are dead.

Phil Denter's avatar

Really? You need to connect a few dots there, Canker. You are in debt, in part, because you finance the genocide that you don't care about in Gaza.

C'mon. Get in the game.

JohnAZ's avatar

Cankerpuss

Do not listen to this prattle. The few billions of dollars we send to Israel is nothing compared to the economic impact of losing control of the oil in the Gulf.

Larry Goldstock's avatar

Your reply is the definition of “You’re living under a rock”

AwakeNotWoke's avatar

POTUS Trump is just waiting for Bibi to give the order. POTUS Trump's organ grinder's role is reminiscent of the "senior Gulf official" around the time of the 1990-1991 Gulf War who, referring to American soldiers who were there to defend Kuwait, was reported in "The New Yorker" as saying: "You think I want to send my teen-aged son to die for Kuwait? ... We have our white slaves from America to do that".

James Howard Kunstler's avatar

Oh, please. Israel is playing for Western Civ, Jihad is not. What part of that is so hard to understand?

Michael Huye's avatar

James, Israel plays for Israel. Certainly not for Western Civ. I've read the Talmud.

JohnAZ's avatar

Where did modern Israel come from?

Europeans, it is a European country.

Lugh's avatar

Well they don't identify as European, White, or Western. Not the hardliners in any case, the people who are in charge now. They see themselves as being separate, superior with their own unique destiny which involves conquering the world for themselves.

JohnAZ's avatar

Yup, their rallying cry is that they are Jews. Just like Iran with their, We are Shia Muslims, or we are Persians. Is the Iranian claim that they want the greatness of Persia to be reborn any different than the Zionist desire for Israel? Ethnocentrism to the nth degree on both sides. One difference, Iran is a bunch of cowards, using terrorists, assassins and proxies to do their fighting for them.

If we go to war, go get Khamenei and his cohorts, and take out the remaining resources, especially water supplies. Trump has made declarations to try to free the dissidents from the dictatorship of the Ayatollehs, and must follow up.

Glitterpuppy's avatar

Whew! That’s a new, unexplored twist on the Israelites

MarshaLouise's avatar

As individuals, we are all alike in that regard. Why pick on them infinitely?

Michael Huye's avatar

They were kicked out of 119 countries. Some European, some not. This makes no difference. Ask why, not where.

Strange Bedfellow's avatar

Perpetual historical diaspora? If you can't get along with your neighbours? Ever? High-functioning (mild) form of Savant Syndrome culture? With a touch of Dunning-Kruger ('chosen people')?

Cosmo T Kat's avatar

Modern Israel was created by the Rotchchild's primarily of Britain and today it contains people who originally came out of Central Eurasian Steppes settled in Central and Eastern Europe and their ethnic background is primarily Turkic.

JohnAZ's avatar

The survivors of Hitler’s purge AND of Stalin’s purge numbered in the millions and emigrated to Israel. The key observation is that they were not Semites, they were Diaspora survivors, Europeans and yes, Ukrainians.

bibi's avatar

How dare you!

Carlos's avatar

What part of "Israel pays LIP service" to Western Civ - don't you understand?

Cosmo T Kat's avatar

B.S. Jim. They are playing to destroy Western Civilization while using the USA to enable their M.E. imperialism some may refer to as lebensraum, but that's also a cover for the theft of scarce resources. Just like the great replacement in USA the Israeli hegemony backed by the USA in the M.E. is no theory, it's strategic. Why? Money, Jim, it is always about the money. With money you obtain power and with power you can rule over others.

UncleBob9's avatar

Too bad we bankrupted ourselves to rebuild the world after WW2 while also squandering trillions of dollars to bribe people to sit on their asses and watch tv or play video games while getting high, so that our enemies have all the money and we have shitloads of worthless stuff.

In any case, 🇮🇱 doesn't run 🇺🇸 despite the Left's Jew-hating agitprop seeking to undermine Trump and Netanyahu in hopes of building a one-world, YHWH-hating, secular text-based society similar to the shit in China. If you fuckers want to live in a surveillance state to save you from Trump and "them fuckin' Jewboys," you're morons. No Jews, no Christianity, no salvation, and traditional values go away. But sure, buy the bullshit the propagandists on the news tell you. After all, in the end times, the world is supposed to constantly hate and attack Israel simply for existing. It's a stumbling block for humanity intentionally placed here by God to impede humanity's love of war and self-destructive. The fact that Israel is led by imperfect people and sometimes does things that piss off the Islamists who'd kill every Jew and Christian on Earth doesn't mean Israel wants to rule the world; however, Islamists and the Chinese both believe they're going to rule the world, and they're going to find a way to achieve thei goals -- including by buying stakes in American media so they can manipulate Americans into hating "dem damn Jewboys."

Cosmo T Kat's avatar

Who's we kemosabe? Read the Talmud asshole and the strategic plan is clear. I don't need a lecture on what's true or untrue from the likes of you. I have eyes, I have a very clear mind and I am well read on this subject. I suspect you are not given your comment.

The Dude Abides's avatar

Bravo!

Keep kicking that ahole's ass.

Phil Denter's avatar

Hahaha! Right it's Islamists and the Chinese running American media. Pretty sure. 🤣

You really screwed the pooch on that one.

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Speaking of "If you fuckers want to live in a surveillance state ..." just check out what Trump is implementing towards that goal:

Warp Speed (COVID shot)

Stargate (blood tests and mRNA vaccines powered by Palantir, Open AI, SoftBank, Oracle to “cure cancer…” [caused by COVID shot? 🤔])

GENIUS Act (Digital Currency)

REAL ID rollout led by Kristi Noem (intermediate step to national digital ID linked to medical records among other future [digital currency] applications).

Genesis Mission (National AI platform linking federal data centers)

6G Executive Order with “implantable technologies” as one of its purposes.

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Wakey, wakey!

The Dude Abides's avatar

Speaking of surveillance states... and Gestapo... Tucker found out what a vile POS Huckabee is...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS7itdfgNnU

Lugh's avatar

Moses himself started the drive for world domination. Remember, you agreed with me on that, helpfully providing chapter and verse.

The Dude Abides's avatar

Nice load of bullshit.

MarshaLouise's avatar

You said it better than most, UncleBob9, and I hail the message and your gutsy expression. Well said!

The Dude Abides's avatar

LOL!! Moron broad? zionist POS porker?

Get behind me, Satan!

Carl L. McWilliams's avatar

"Islamists and the Chinese both believe they're going to rule the world"......see Revelation 9: 16.

Cosmo T Kat's avatar

Read the Talmud, Carl. The Chines have no desire to rule the world only Islamists and Jews desire that role and only the Jews see Islam and Christianity as goyim

MarshaLouise's avatar

“lions’ heads” suggest China. Islamists in those lines?

The Dude Abides's avatar

Is the 300,000+ innocents murdered in Gaza and Lebanon, by the rabid zionists... all justified by the Oct 7 IDF False Flag... sort of like a "jihad"??

JohnAZ's avatar

JHK

You seem to attract the anti-Israel crowd to CFN.

The Watchman's avatar

Anti-Israel, is the wrong term anti-Zionist is more appropriate. And it's because CFN never says anything bad about them.

Other than that fact, Mr. Kunstler's observations are usually spot on.

JohnAZ's avatar

I disagree, the world hates Israel, the Zionists are just a faction. In the USA, for example, anti-Semitism, a misnomer, is against Jews, not Zionists.

Phil Denter's avatar

No. That's just Bibi supporters acting like children, John. "Let me have my way or you hate me!"

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Most critics of Bibi's genocidal policies love Bob Dylan, Mel Brooks and Milton Berle. Most critics of Bibi's policies are not antisemitic. Rather, they are anti-genocide.

Big difference.

The Dude Abides's avatar

Jews are almost all worthy of being despised.

Ask any to reject and condemn the talmud. See how far you get.

Then read the damned load of pig offal.

AwakeNotWoke's avatar

I have no problem with Americans dying for Israel. It's better than Israelis dying for Israel.

Cankerpuss's avatar

I sense the sarcasm. I don't want to see ANY American dying for some shithole foreign nation. If they are going to die they should die defending the USA from a LEGITIMATE threat. Iran is not a threat to the USA. Period.

MarshaLouise's avatar

Why is America called “the Great Satan”? Where’s that coming from?

JohnAZ's avatar

Were e you around in 1973 or 1978 for the oil shortages? The geopolitics surrounding oil availability makes the USA defending sea lanes and oil infrastructure imperative. We know what a world “a quart low” from oil will look like, and it is worth fighting to preserve the free access of oil. The American way of life depends on oil and water being available for reasonable cost.

Iran IS a significant threat to the USA in its wanting to control the flow of oil from the Persian Gulf. If it were not for the US presence, Iran would use its base at Bandar Abbas to block the Straits of Hormuz. If that were to happen, well, let’s hope it is not allowed to.

BTW, are you aware that the US responsibility to defend the Gulf is because of treaties with Saudi Arabia in 1943? Not Israel.

Israel has turned a desert into a habitable area. I would love to see it in partnership with other ME countries to develop the desert. Iran’s prerogative is to block the Abraham Accords at all cost because its leader’s Egos cannot stand the competition. Islam is an excuse, it is the Persian curse.

cs whidden's avatar

You should be strung up for that stupid remark.

NO American blood should be spilled in defense of the zio-nazis!!!

rd3's avatar

"I have no problem with Americans dying for Israel."

Thanks.

Cosmo T Kat's avatar

Therein lies the true feelings and mentality of Zionists.

AwakeNotWoke's avatar

I'd prefer Americans didn't die but if it's a choice between Americans and Israelis it's better if it's Americans. Whether in Korea, Vietnam, Serbia, Afghanistan or Iraq, Israelis have fought beside America in every war America has ever started and it's time for Americans to carry more of the load.

Cankerpuss's avatar

You can't be serious. This has to be a sarcastic comment or you are out trolling today. How can you say Americans need to carry more of the load? You do realize that the balance of America's $37 trillion debt burden is from the Country's spending its strength and means in foreign lands, right? Americans need to wise up, become an isolationist nation for about 20 years, fix itself, and tell the rest of the world to go fuck itself.

If you are troll and you laid a trap, I bit, hook line and sinker.

Dennis L. Merwood's avatar

"Israelis have fought beside America in every war America has ever started" What? Huh! Got a source for that claim my man.

The US gets nothing in return for the economic and military support that it provides to the ethnosupremacist apartheid nation of Israel. In fact, the US suffers internationally on account of its close relationship with Israel because of its constant vetoing of UN Resolutions intended to punish Israel for its human rights violations.

There is no alliance, and Israel is not an ally. Its government does not behave as an ally does, it has never fought alongside US forces in any of our foreign wars. Its interests are not aligned with the US's as an ally’s should be. There are no formal treaties and no binding obligations that require the governments to do anything for the other.

Pundits always grossly exaggerates the extent of the ties between the two governments. Israel is routinely called "our most important ally” in the region, or even "our most cherished ally” in all the world. These are ideological assertions that are not grounded in reality. Dozens of other states all over the world are better allies to the US than the “most cherished ally” is. And they don’t preside over an illegal occupation and decades of abuses and crimes against the Palestinian people living under Israeli occupation. Now being ethnically cleansed in a genocide with US supplied bombs dropped on refugee camps and hospitals.

The effect of this constant repetition is to make the US/Israel relationship to be extremely important to US interests when it is not. It promotes an illusion of a common interest where no common interest exists ~ and has suckered the US into being complicit in a genocide.

The US taxpayers are having billions of their taxes stolen and given to ethnosupremacist apartheid Israel. Americans do not have Universal healthcare. But pay for Israel to have Universal healthcare. And the US is $35 trillion in debt. Israel has made themselves pariahs in the eyes of the World. This is not going to end well for Israel.

Cosmo T Kat's avatar

LoL and quite stupid. How did Israeli's participate in any American war or conflict before 1948? If you were to say Jews who are American citizens you might have an argument, but to say Israeli's...too funny.

Vegan Shark's avatar

Israel did not exist at the time of the last Really Really Big War, also known as World War II, so that doesn't count. I don't believe many Israelis fought alongside us in Korea or Vietnam. That leaves the US's monkeyshines in the Middle East, which no doubt had Israeli underwriting, but where it also had a strong self-interest.

All in all, not a splendid showing of hands-across-the-water.

As for carrying more of the load, good grief! The US has jumped through hoops to provide weaponry (at a nice profit for our war industries) to Israel. I'd say it's past time for Israel to spend more of the shekels.

The Dude Abides's avatar

Logic of a scumbag Zio-pig.

GabeReal's avatar

You can’t be serious. If you are then you’re truly not “Awake”

Lugh's avatar

Yes, and their DNA is that of God don't forget. Only theirs.

Jack Tiscione's avatar

Awake………that is cynicism cubed

The Dude Abides's avatar

Pro truth often turns out to be "anti-Israel"

JohnAZ's avatar

Simple question, what has Israel done to you to make you into a Hater? No criticism intended.

The Dude Abides's avatar

Murdered 300,000+ innocents in Gaza and Lebanon.

Corrupted, bribed and extorted our congress.

Corrupted Trump... obviously.

911

JFK

Epstein

USS Liberty

Any more questions, douche-bag?

Ben R's avatar

Nothing he has been told to hate without thinking it through.

Phil Denter's avatar

He got ya there, John. You're used to name-calling ("Hater") to have your opponent on his heels. But JJ didn't take your bait. Instead, he simply answered why he legitimately opposes Israel.

NY Nanny's avatar

Thanks for that James.

Jim🧯🇰🇼🌲's avatar

That's right, Jim. Israel and their global Israelite 5th columns areplaying for the genociding or enslavement of Western Civ and then the rest of humanity, which the Jewish Books of Jewishness make abundantly clear is the core and essence of Judaism, as any Lubavitcher and many rabbis in Israel are proud to complain. What we call Murder is what they call Mitzvah, as they've been proud to demonstrate in Gaza.

Ben R's avatar

Lest you forget, Islam and Christianity.

Islam is way ahead on the murder scorecard.

Night owl's avatar

"Illegal nukes"

May be the funniest thing I have heard in 2026.

Mitch's avatar

send in the international police to arrest them! lol

stebben l kruizmann's avatar

Your mother wears a burka.

PaxAlto's avatar

Right, because Hasids sport the latest, trendy fashions. Try again, Schlomo

Jack Tiscione's avatar

Your father wears high heels

The Dude Abides's avatar

Your momma has a monster snout and repellent body odor.

Steals pennies from children.

The Watchman's avatar

PaxAlto you nailed it!!!

NetanYooHoo has Trump by the balls. Don't know what he has on him, but he does his bidding 24/7 and meets with him whenever he wants.

Maybe Epstein gave him some files to use, after all, he was one of their assets.

Lugh's avatar

Trump being mentioned repeatedly in the Epstein files is what. If Trump refuses (as he did a couple of months ago) then that part will be accentuated in the media, and/or more will come out with him in it.

Phil Denter's avatar

Not only meets with him whenever he wants ... but Trump holds Bibi's chair while Bibi's sits down - in a clear sign of subservience.

Ernest N. Curtis's avatar

Disgusting, yes. Stupid, not so much. To attribute the immoral actions of governments and their agents to stupidity misstates the problem. They are only stupid if they forget to cash their paychecks or pad their retirement accounts. Blaming stupidity implies that we need only select smarter people to carry out the directives of those that actually control the levers of power. And we can see how that has worked out over and over again.

UncleBob9's avatar

Do you plan to indict anyone in Istael for the existence of their "illegal nukes," or ate they just going to remain scofflaws

Asking for a friend.

Lugh's avatar

Israel denies any such nukes. What is wrong with you?

Ben R's avatar

They neither deny nor confirm in fact the avoid talking about it altogether. Smart keeps enemies guessing.

Phil Denter's avatar

That is one weird friend.

Howard Skillington's avatar

There is no plausible scenario in which the US benefits from a large-scale attack on Iran. Iran would almost certainly block the Strait of Hormuz, send oil prices sky high, wreck our economy, and send the shaky market over the brink.

Iran is also quite capable of sinking our antiquated aircraft carriers, along with thousands of our troops – bearing in mind that the American public is traumatized when our persistent military mischief making occasionally causes us to lose even a handful.

Any of the above would forfeit any chance of the Elephants winning the midterm elections, instantly making Trump an ineffectual lame duck for the remainder of his term.

Against all of this, what benefit would the US enjoy in the improbable event of an easy, low-cost victory over Iran? Nothing much. Why, then, is this idiotic exercise proceeding? Who on earth can have the power to make the United States of America risk all for their sole benefit? Israel, of course.

Is there anything that can break their lethal hold on our geopolitics and free us to pursue our best interests? This may be it. Either this exercise fizzles out and looses us from Israel’s thrall, or our nation suffers a lethal self-inflicted wound while a tiny, insignificant country in the Middle East laughs at our demise.

Cankerpuss's avatar

Well said, Howard Skillington. Iran is no threat to the USA. Period. There is no clear benefit gained from the billions of dollars being spent to fund our pesky military's adventures over there. Get them home. Use them to rook out the illegal aliens and send them home. They are the true threat to the USA. Not Iran. I'm sick of this shit.

Mark Livingston's avatar

If USA abandons Israel it will be a clear sign (as if one is needed after the Ukraine ) that any alliance with USA is a lousy idea. That's our interest. As well as the traditional post WWII Judeo Christian alliance governing us and our culture, with all its faults.

Cankerpuss's avatar

Mark, the USA is busted. Broke. Bankrupt. The money is gone. There is no money. The USA has spent its strength and means making war in too many nations. Once the reserve status of our currently is gone so will our ability to fight everyone's wars.

We should have free trade with other nations but stay out of their wars, their politics and their economies.

Iran poses no threat to the USA. For God's sake they don't even have enough water for their cities and were considering evacuating Tehran, a City of more than 3 million people.

The USA needs to take a time out from world affairs, bring the troops home, kick out all the interlopers, fix its infrastructure, clean up its politics and focus on its own needs for about 20 years.

Trumpeter's avatar

Cankerpus, just a reminder that George H. Bush as his last act added a Trillion dollars to the budget. Does anyone remember "Shovel ready infrastructure?"

Well that was the last budget America had. Every year since we have just talked on 7% to last year's spending. 24 years, 7% , that sounds something like 50 trillion dollars! (Financial people help me out here.) And I am sure we can all agree that they didn't spend it on infrastructure!

Mark Livingston's avatar

If we are broke, how come we are the big market everyone wants to sell to, and why do they cry when we install tariffs?

Free trade is what weakened us. We gave away our technology for promises of an information economy any access to Chinese markets. We got screwed.

Abandoning Israel will show the world we don't stand for anything.

Howard Skillington's avatar

A better idea: drop rotten alliances in favor of valuable ones.

Phil Denter's avatar

That's a tall order since Trump declared his unprovoked trade war on ... wait for it ... earth!

Howard Skillington's avatar

Self-inflicted, rather than provoked, but real, nonetheless. If we do not relearn how to manufacture a wide variety of products to meet our own needs again there can be no rebuilding of a middle class, and post-collapse life in this country will be much more miserable than it need be. Reindustrializing requires a mercantilist strategy, which always requires protective tariffs.

Phil Denter's avatar

You're just shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic.

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The US$, by any and all measures, is bankrupt. IMHO, Trump is not trying to rebuild your gutted industrialism. Rather, he is provoking this bankruptcy. That is his specialty, after all: managing bankruptcies.

Mark Livingston's avatar

Sounds like something a Canadian would say.

Phil Denter's avatar

... or any other countryman of us 96% non-Americans.

You may think that declaring an unproven trade war against your creditors, financiers and suppliers is a good idea but, if so, you obviously did not major in Economics.

rd3's avatar

"instantly making Trump an ineffectual lame duck for the remainder of his term."

Hasn't Trump been a lame duck this whole time anyway? Anything he has accomplished has been with executive orders or directives to various agencies, all of which will be reversed the first day that the next globo-homo-Marxist takes office.

Cankerpuss's avatar

Well said, RD3. Trump can't make law and without a willing Congress everything he is doing is nothing more than a temporary band aid. It will be ripped off in three days once the Democrats regain the majority and the power.

Kathy Christian's avatar

It won't take three days. They've probably already gotten the executive orders written.

Kathy Christian's avatar

Boy, who pissed in your Cheerios this morning, rd3?

rd3's avatar

Do you disagree with anything I wrote?

Alan's avatar

I disagree with just about everything you have written on this article today. You're stuck in a false premise--that Trump is a sock puppet for Israel and lack the intellect or demeanor to consider other possibilities.

elysianfield's avatar

RD and I would suggest that the state of Israel has undue influence on our governing entities.

Say it ain't so.

Show your work.

Alan's avatar

As I said, Israel owns the GOP Congress and the GOP Senate.

Learn to read.

rd3's avatar

It's definitely intellect. I lack the intellect.

Phil Denter's avatar

Right. Trump is not Bibi's sock puppet. Just ask Miriam Adelson. She'll tell ya.

Alan's avatar

Howard Skillington writes: "There is no plausible scenario in which the US benefits from a large-scale attack on Iran. Iran would almost certainly block the Strait of Hormuz, send oil prices sky high, wreck our economy, and send the shaky market over the brink.

"Iran is also quite capable of sinking our antiquated aircraft carriers, along with thousands of our troops – bearing in mind that the American public is traumatized when our persistent military mischief making occasionally causes us to lose even a handful."

No doubt there is a huge risk of this spinning out of control. But, why didn't Iran do all of the above during the 12-day war of June 2025? They can only do that with help from Russia or China, both of whom sat out the 12-day war and are sitting out this current showdown. Why? Because Russia and China hate the City of London more than Trump does. The civilized world is sick of the leadership in Iran and Israel, both of whom are pawns of the City of London.

Howard Skillington's avatar

We are among the pawns of the City of London.

Alan's avatar

Yes, we have been, and that is what Trump is trying to end. It seems to me London is getting pretty desperate if they have to roll out Hillary again.

Howard Skillington's avatar

We must hope that they fail before we do.

Phil Denter's avatar

Are you sure? What if, for example, Trump is controlled opposition and actually working for the City of London?

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I wrote this a year ago. Every day it looks less crazy and more accurate:

Trump's WEF mandates are to smash Greenland, Canada and the USA into the Club of Rome's New World Order Region 1 - North American Union (NAU), instigate then manage the bankruptcy of US Inc. and its phoney-bologna US$ and facilitate the transition from the prosperous corporatocracy that we knew (and loved) to their new thousand-times-worse-than-Orwellian technocracy.

Trump brokering and providing Peter Thiel, Larry Ellison & Sam Altman with a half a TRILLION[!] dollars falls into that last mandate. Those 3 amigos are developing our Super-AI (the biblical Beast System) to, among other things, custom build, in 48 hours, an mRNA jab to "cure" you of cancer(s) that you don't even have!

I shit you not.

Phil Denter's avatar

"But, why didn't Iran do all of the above during the 12-day war of June 2025?"

Rumour has it that Bibi begged Trump to end that war tout suite on account of Iranian missiles decimating Israel. Rumour has it that Iran displayed all manner of restraint as they understand that all-out war creates a lose-lose-lose situation.

Methinks 2026 will be different than was 2025.

Howard Skillington's avatar

Iran has responded to the provocations and violations of the past couple of years with remarkable acumen and restraint. It is quite capable of inflicting grievous damage upon Israel and the US if it decides a situation has become fuck-all.

Ben R's avatar

Consider that the US has real missiles tipped with various munitions. Some of which could render parts of Iran even more uninhabitable than it already is.

Howard Skillington's avatar

You betray you ignorance here. Our military has failed time and time again. We fuck with Iran and watch what happens.

Phil Denter's avatar

Indeed.

Hubris is so very ugly to watch.

Ben R's avatar

The irony of you saying this!

Ben R's avatar

What an odd way to show restraint by firing missiles at civilian populations. I guess that's ok as long as it's Jews?

Bookoodinkydow's avatar

Wish we would follow the advice of the Founding Fathers, but that would be racist, or some kind of “ist”.

Alan's avatar

All of the post-WW2 presidents except Trump have entangled America in foreign disputes. The only way to untangle the mess is to settle disputes created and fomented by the UK/Davos in the hope of drawing the U.S. and Russia into a war neither could win.

Trump, Putin and Xi are all sick of the constant chaos the UK and France drum up with their Mideast assets: Israel and Iran. The EU and UK hold on Iranian mullahs is the target. Trump is asking Iran to shed their role as an agent of chaos and take up the mantle of a civilized nation and join the free world to unleash the creative power of their people.

Trump is not beholden to Netanyahu. The GOP House and Senate are beholden to Netanyahu. That's the political reality at home. Trump is trying to broker an end to the chaos with as little to no bloodshed as possible so that the U.S. can leave the mideast and focus on America and the Monroe Doctrine.

As JHK said, "The art of the deal is not for sissies."

Gym+Fritz's avatar

“ . . and join the free world” - hopefully not like the UK, France, or Deutschland, hopefully more like Hungry, Serbia, Slovakia, or Poland.

Ben's avatar
Feb 20Edited

Poland for the win!

Imagine that all the jokes made at the Polish people's expense, and now the joke is on the rest of Europe.

rd3's avatar

What did Jesus say to the polacks?

Ben's avatar

Nothing, of course.

rd3's avatar

"Shhhhh. Play dumb until I get back."

rd3's avatar

"Trump is not beholden to Netanyahu."

How do you figure? He took $100 million from the Adelson's. The same Adelson's who flew Jonathan Pollard back to Israel on a private jet, to a hero's welcome.

Alan's avatar

So what? Did you ever consider that maybe the Adelsons wanted Israel out from under the thumb of the Brits as much as Trump does? The Brits were behind October 8 just as they are behind the recent internal turmoil in Iran.

Ben's avatar

The Brits have been fucking up the globe for five hundred years.

Them and the unholy Roman Catholic church.

rd3's avatar

But, who owns the Brits? I think we know.

Alan's avatar

The Enlightenment for over 500 years, the Brits for 332 years when they established the Bank of England.

Ben's avatar

No it goes back far further than that, ask the Irish, Scottish, French, Spanish and anyone caught in their web of lies and deception.

Phil Denter's avatar

October 7, Alan. Don't you even know your simplest of parrot points?

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Miriam Adelson is trying to get Israel out from under the thumb of the Brits ... even though the Americans finance them? You don't really let facts, reality or logic get in the way of your Israel cheerleading, eh?

Ben's avatar

It is impossible not to be entangled.

Jack Tiscione's avatar

Trump is OWNED by bibi

Ben's avatar

Looks like Bibi owns at least half of your two brain cells.

Phil Denter's avatar

Yep. Via Miriam Adelson.

Lugh's avatar

Yeah he is. Along with much of the House and Senate of course. I remind of the hundred million Trump took from Madam Adelson. Presidents don't ask Congress to go to war anymore either. So all need is him on this one.

Alan's avatar

I assume you missed this right under the comment you replied to...

"So what? Did you ever consider that maybe the Adelsons wanted Israel out from under the thumb of the Brits as much as Trump does? The Brits were behind October 8 just as they are behind the recent internal turmoil in Iran."

Of course, you are free to disagree.

Phil Denter's avatar

"All of the post-WW2 presidents except Trump have entangled America in foreign disputes." ???!!! WTF are you talking about? Greenland, Canada, Cuba, Mexico, Columbia, Venezuela, Sudan, Yemen, Syria, Iran, Taiwan, ...

Your Trump Adoration Syndrome is well-advanced.

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"Trump is not beholden to Netanyahu." If that's true, why, then, does Trump hold Bibi's chair for him (in a clear sign of subservience)?

And, if that's true, what, exactly, did Miriam Adelson purchase with her hundos of millions?

rd3's avatar

Go not abroad in search of monsters to destroy.

Cankerpuss's avatar

Avoid partisan politics and foreign entanglements. Be friendly with our neighbors and trade with them but stay out of their business.

Ben's avatar

Meanwhile, Mexico uses us as a pressure relief valve!

With friends and neighbors like Mexico and Canada, who needs enemies?

Cankerpuss's avatar

Mexico is a true enemy to the USA. They use all of their consulates scattered throughout the USA to preach anti-American propaganda laden text books to young people who were brought here illegally. They believe the entire southwest quadrant of the USA should be back under Mexican rule. Utah, Nevada, California, Arizona, New Mexico and parts of Colorado and Wyoming, all belong to Mexico, or so they believe. They are actively undermining the USA in everything they do. They have a name for this territory. Azetlan. Their invasionary forces are voting and changing the politics of our nation. Large swaths of area in California now resemble Tijuana.

They are the enemy and we ignore them. We should have our military lining up to invade Mexico City and annex the entire shit hole nation instead of spending billions of dollars we don't have pissing around with the water starved Iranians.

Ben's avatar
Feb 20Edited

La Rasa and La Mecha groups spell it out and have for the entire time I have been alive.

Might they try to finally implement the plan of San Diego?

By the way, we already seized Mexico City and stupidly gave it back.

A drive through parts of North Hollywood has more Mexican flags than American ones.

Pissing around with Iran now may save hundreds of millions of lives later.

Do some research into their 12'er cult beliefs.

They want a massive war to bring on the last Mahdi.

Cankerpuss's avatar

I'm certainly not an expert on Iran, only the bits and pieces of what I read, hear and see. The fact is, we as a nation are broke. We can no longer afford to be the world police when our own nation is crumbling here at home. Iran doesn't even have any water and were talking about evacuating the city of Tehran, a city of over 3 million people. I just don't see these middle east nations being the big world threat that they are hyped up to be.

But, I'm just a jack mormon living in the mountains of north eastern Utah. What do I know?

Cosmo T Kat's avatar

or cherished M.E. allies who stab us in the back at every chance.

Phil Denter's avatar

That is decidedly not Trump.

Bookoodinkydow's avatar

Exactly. I prefer being a republic rather than an empire.

rd3's avatar
Feb 20Edited

That died so long ago, there is not even the faintest memory of it. My daughter asked me why every book I read is over 100 years old. I told her that I just want to have some connection to what we used to be.

Cankerpuss's avatar

The empire is dying as well. The empire is broke, busted, bankrupt. Our leaders know it. The USA has spent its strength and means warring in foreign lands and we are now paying the ultimate price for that warmongering.

Lugh's avatar

Bibi: America can dry up and blow away once we've gotten what we need from it.

I assume that means as much as they can take.

Mitch's avatar

so true, same here.

Jack Tiscione's avatar

Yes…that is so true…..

Mitch's avatar

there's more than enough domestically.

Cankerpuss's avatar

They were all just a bunch of rich, slave owning old white guys. In America today it is a sin to be a heterosexual white guy. Just watch the teevee. White guys are all but banned from just about every show, unless, of course, they need a really bad antagonist, who is almost always portrayed by a white guy.

David Veale's avatar

They're allowed to be white, but only if they're also gay -- because that cancels out the badness of being white.

Kathy Christian's avatar

Kind of like negatives and positives in math

Kathy Christian's avatar

Or they need to make them look like buffoons in commercials

Cankerpuss's avatar

Homer Simpson. Lots of people think he's funny. I don't. His character serves only to denigrate and mock the white male.

rd3's avatar

Every sit com from that era had a dumb, fat, lazy, under-employed white father who was always scheming and getting the family into trouble. The mother was always beautiful, hard-working, brilliant, selfless, courageous, dedicated to her husband and kids, and would always bail out the father for all of his misdeeds.

Lugh's avatar

Ancient Greek theatre got into this too, but never as much as we have. The Romans forbade it absolutely. And that is wise. Not an inch. Just like Islam.

rd3's avatar

It seems to me that Boomer women are the first generation who, nearly universally, hector and demean their husbands. In fact, I would say that it is even worse in that generation than younger generations. My mother does it to my father. My mother in law does it to my father in law.

Cankerpuss's avatar

Bingo. Exactly right.

Lugh's avatar

Women love that stuff. It started back in the 1920's in advertising. Then the comics and comedians - and THEN this potential as weaponized with the new Feminism.

elysianfield's avatar

...Me love your comment...long time....

Ben's avatar

Great in concept, but it took months to go from one point to another.

History shows the US minds its own business, and the world goes to war, and by world, I mean Europe twice!

The Middle East has never been a peaceful area.

Imagine if they were left to their own devices to make war on each other and everyone else.

I wish other Western powers would step up and keep the peace.

Vegan Shark's avatar

No outside intervention! The various entities in the middle east should be left to make war on each other as they see fit. It's their nature and stems from a long historical background.

After enough years of mutual destruction, and no sign of peacekeeping forces, treaty makers and aid from the rest of the world, it might begin to dawn on all the players that it would be in their best interest to get along with each other. If they hate their neighbors, they can keep their hatred as long as fingers remain off the trigger.

Ben R's avatar

You don't use electricity or drive a car? Buy packaged foods or the million other things made from petroleum?

JohnAZ's avatar

Well, I hope you enjoy oil shortages caused by ME countries blowing themselves up. What do you think would be the first target? SAs oil infrastructure and Gulf oil terminal.

We are obligated by treaty to protect Saudi Arabia.

We do not want any more 1973s.

Ben's avatar

Treaties we don't need no stinking treaties, and let's face it, we have thrown a good chunk of them out over the years.

Danimal28's avatar

Russians historically hate Islamic whack-jobs. Trump is notoriously unpredictable and that is good. The one thing we do know is he is the first president in memory who doesn't enjoy killing people.

The world is supposedly in chaos; certainly with immigration, but I think we are undergoing the great economic adjustment and Iran will finally make the right adjustments.

The only thing we have to fear is the Globalists starting with the Bank of International Settlements.

Cankerpuss's avatar

Unchecked immigration has muddied the cultural waters of all western nations. Borders, language and culture are meaningless these days.

Todd's avatar

Michael Savage sounded the alarm 25 years ago! Borders, language and culture

Lugh's avatar

Is he against serving Israel? I bet he isn't. Because, well you know.

Ben's avatar

Actually, he is pretty hard on Israel.

Instead of speaking out of ignorance, do some research.

You might just figure out there are jews with common sense.

Dennis L. Merwood's avatar

"A Nation without borders is no Nation at all" - Ronald Reagan

rd3's avatar

And right after he said that, he legalized 12 million illegals.

Cankerpuss's avatar

And destroyed California. Once those illegals were legalized the political structure of that state went blue and has gone down hill ever since. Before Reagan it was called the Golden State for a reason.

rd3's avatar

He also signed the state abortion law.

Ben's avatar

Lest we forget the other part of the story!

The Democrats promised to fix immigration!

Forty years later, they are still lying about it.

No fix in sight, and the mere mention of it sends them into hysterics with a severe case of the vapors.

Lugh's avatar

A vastly over rated president. Conservatives show their lack of cognitive coherence on this point.

Ben's avatar

You're wrong.

He was the right man at the time, but a man nonetheless, not perfect but far better than many before or after him.

Perfect is the enemy of good.

RMRDVM's avatar

I like how politicians make a statement. eg. 'If X, then Y will happen.' They don't ever say, 'I believe that it's a bad thing that if X, then Y will happen and I have a plan to keep that from happening.' Their original statement might mean that they agree with it. 'If X, then Y will happen (and boy oh boy, I can't wait for that, because I'll make $$$).' They head fake us into finishing the statement however we want. We think they're on our side. The RINOs are great at this.

So, no wonder after Ronny made a non-value statement, he then went on to legalize 12 million illegals, which helped turn CA into a 3rd world country. Point is, at least the Dems are honest...they're creeps, but tell you they'll rip you off. The RINOs do the politically correct thing in hopes of keeping their jobs. If taken to court, they could plead that they never agreed to do anything for US plebs.

Jack Tiscione's avatar

He also divorced what….16 times

Ben's avatar

I think you are confusing divorce with the number of functioning brain cells you have left.

rd3's avatar

Once that I know of.

Ben's avatar
Feb 20Edited

Not entirely.

Going to my local Costco shows we are awash in the mutts of the world.

It is better than it was two years ago, but I really do want to learn the words "run Immigration" in Chinese, Somali and Russian.

I already know it in Spanish!

Cankerpuss's avatar

In my community there used to be large gangs of military aged male mutts queuing up for truck driving schools and loiter about in parking lots until it was their turn. They would temporarily board in a rental house, dozens of them, spend 10 days here, get their CDLs and then would disappear into the rest of the USA. They never bothered anyone and kept to themselves but there was also a creepy feeling when they were encountered. They certainly weren't Americans and had no interest in becoming Americans.

However, once Trump took office and ICE began actively enforcing IMMIGRATION LAW, these truck driving schools have vanished, the rental boarding houses for the illegals are empty and the roving gangs of military aged mutts have disappeared.

Kudos to Mr. Trump on that one!

Ben's avatar

And the price of everything is slowly spiraling down.

Cosmo T Kat's avatar

Be specific, what is on the downward price spiral?

Ben's avatar

Across the board, everything until this latest round of saber-rattling and build-up to take out shite run Iran has caused gas prices to go up .20 cents at least in already over taxed California.

Two years ago, gas and Diesel were approaching $7 a gallon.

Eggs down!

Overall, food prices are going down.

Gas down!

Oil Down!

Housing prices are sagging!

Inflation is way down!

The only thing way up is stupidity.

Mark Livingston's avatar

Just get a whistle from the "allies". I've wanted to get one and just walk down the street blowing it. Some noise in the Signal chat, pun intended.

Ben's avatar

If only more "normal" people would engage them in this way.

Vegan Shark's avatar

Borders, language and culture are especially meaningful these days. They are key strongholds against surging globalism.

Cosmo T Kat's avatar

Who are the people behind this chaos, C Puss?

Cankerpuss's avatar

I wish I knew for sure but I suspect the uber wealthy are behind it all. I'm not talking about Bezos and Gates. I'm talking about the real wealth. The generational wealth going back 150 years. The Rockefellers, Rothschilds, Morgans, Chases, Carnegies, etc. Nobody gets into these elite social circles. Not the Trumps, Clintons, Bushes, Buffets, etc. They are small fries. This old money is where today's billionaires go to get loans. I suspect they are those behind the chaos, but, that is only my theory. I have no evidence to prove it one way or another.

Phil Denter's avatar

Yes. And, if one wants to even get close to the Bezos, Gates, Trumps, Clintons, Bushes, Buffets level of the pyramid, one must rape, murder and eat a child on video. Then you are in for life.

Cosmo T Kat's avatar

Good answer........

Phil Denter's avatar

"The one thing we do know is he is the first president in memory who doesn't enjoy killing people." How do we "know" that?

Danimal28's avatar

His actions. He uses tariffs to prevent war which goes against the last 35 years of the "New Global World Order" where we printed money and went to war everywhere.

Phil Denter's avatar

Huh? He uses tariffs while threatening (or worse) war with Greenland (Denmark (i.e. NATO)), Canada (also NATO), Mexico, Cuba, Columbia, Venezuela, Sudan, Yemen, Syria, Iran and Taiwan. WTF are you talking about?

Danimal28's avatar

Using unpredictability against the worlds worst people isn't death, it's strategy.

Phil Denter's avatar

Greenland? Canada? The world's worst people?

96% of us are not American and, day by day, more and more of us think that Trump is the world's worst person.

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You'll catch more flies with honey than you will with vinegar, fyi.

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You sure changed the subject quickly. It went from using tariffs to AVOID war to, seconds later, tariffs AND war.

Danimal28's avatar

We come from different worlds. Trump knows the rest of the world has raped us - with the permission of our oligarchs and establishment politicians - and is pushing back, actually with honey. "You want to do business here we will give you tax breaks if you build here."

Otherwise, pay the same 8% tariff you have waged against us for 50 years; he is officially ending the Marshall Plan - at their expense for once.

Lugh's avatar

They hate the Sunni Jihadists. The Shia are much more reasonable and have proven to be good allies. Jihad is part of their theology of course, but perhaps they interpret it differently? Not sure. In practice, they seem to do so.

Ben's avatar

Reasonable says who?

They are just more cowardly and under the radar.

rd3's avatar

"They are as crazy as the ladies of The View and their millions of Cluster-B followers."

But they have more estrogen.

pyrrhus's avatar

No, JHK, Iran is Shia muslim, who are not Jihadists.....and Israel is the nuclear armed bunch of crazies in the Middle East....There is only one country causing terror and violence....the country whose religion Jesus called "the Synagogue of Satan"....and Trump really needs to avoid a foolish war with Iran promoted by the nutcases in Israel, because the fallout could be catastrophic.....

ArnoldF's avatar

Irans leaders believe in demonic entity called the Mahdi--yes they are global jihadists--pull your head out of the sand. And you are totally twisting the scriptures to your own end--be careful. Israel is our ally in the middle east who actually promotes freedom and democratic values.

Ben's avatar
Feb 20Edited

They believe the last Mahdi or the twelfth imam a real doomsday cult.

While Israel is a proxy, not sure they are actually a true friend.

We use them, and they use us.

Lugh's avatar

What have they done for us? Or do you mean they help us help them.....

Ben's avatar

We tell them to jump, and they say how high.

Lugh's avatar

So we have an a IAPAC (Israeli American Political Action Committee) over there, bribing politicians to do our will?

Ben's avatar

No, we simply tell them NO.

Phil Denter's avatar

And attacks the USS Liberty. Don't forget that allied war action.

ArnoldF's avatar

According to author John Loftus, Israel attacked the USS Liberty because it was transmitting surveillance data on Israeli armored positions to the countries attacking Israel. After the event, it was quietly kicked into the cover of darkness. This is layed out in the book Secret War Against the Jews. John Loftus, was a Justice Dept lawyer with top secret clearance tracking nazis in America after WWII. One chapter in book covers this event.

Phil Denter's avatar

Doubts.

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Even if that obscure story was true ... Israel went to war with the USA that day. Are you saying that Israel was justified in trying to sink the USS Liberty? And, if so, why have they still snarfed billions (if not trillions) of US tax-payer dollars since that attack on an American vessel 59 years ago.

Are you saying that they are our greatest ally ... except when they war against us?!!!

Lugh's avatar

Wisdom, attend.

Crixcyon's avatar

As we have seen over thousands of years, war solves all problems. It gives the military something to do. It wastes money that government doesn't know what to do with. It creates the need for "rebuilding" and going into more debt. It gives the soldiers pride in that they have murdered an enemy. And it subtlety enhances the depopulation agenda. All boxes checked.

rd3's avatar

"And, let’s just suppose that the US objective is actually regime change in Iran."

Regime change has worked so well for the US in the past. Why not try it again?

Barbara Doyle's avatar

We definitely didn't vote for this. Does Trump think this will finally get him the Nobel Peace Prize? What difference does it make if Trump can seriously claim to date that he has settled 7 or 8 wars if he starts the most dangerous one of all? Pray please....

Paul B. Cohen's avatar

“Starts”? Start reading Raymond Ibrahim and get acquainted with real history.

Barbara Doyle's avatar

Read the Founding Fathers.

Paul B. Cohen's avatar

I have. Apparently you haven’t, at least not sufficiently, being unaware that Jefferson and Adams both eventually advocated for the formation and use of a federal navy to combat Islamic pirates and militants.

Barbara Doyle's avatar

Well, how about this? I just don't want another Middle East war. They've all turned out so well!

Paul B. Cohen's avatar

Now we’re getting somewhere. What needs to happen is what Barbara Doyle, in all her ignorance and uninformed enflamed emotions founded in that darkness, wants.

Barbara Doyle's avatar

Didn't know there was darkness in not wanting war. You are projecting darkness.

Dennis L. Merwood's avatar

You are a nasty piece of work, Paul.

I'm surprised you didn't accuse Barbara of being "bitter and wretched!" ~ like you accused me of.

Lugh's avatar

Yeah, they raiding American ships and enslaving Americans. It was for our people. The coming fracas has nothing to do with us. If Jewish Americans want to fight, let them go do so.

Ben's avatar

Not like you're an actual American.

Are you worried your country Iran, will get treated to a broad bombardment of the civilian population, much like when it haphazardly fired missiles at Israel?

They could not actually target anything but a general area in Israel.

Spray and pray style.

The Illusion Of Human Progress's avatar

Let’s face it: the mullahs are hardcore for Jihad and martyrdom.

And the U.S. wants to control the world, just ask Marco Rubio. So what's the difference?

Ben's avatar
Feb 20Edited

Are we throwing fags off buildings or forcing them into sex changes?

Are we throwing acid in women's faces for showing their hair, beating them, or throwing them in jail?

At the moment, the US has one proxy fighter in the region while Iran has been supporting, training, and funding dozens.

One of them has been firing poorly made missiles that can't hit the broadside of a barn unless it's a slow, defenseless oil tanker.

Pretty sure the Sunni countries around Iran would quietly love someone else to fix the problem started by England, the US, and BP oil many moons ago.

While this is happening, I suspect the Saudis will deal with Yemen yet again.

Which, by the way, was an actual genocide.

Night owl's avatar

Why does the US have a proxy in the ME?

I know why, naturally, but I want to hear you say it.

UncleBob9's avatar

Because of all "dem Joos," of course.

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Don't you antisemites ever tire of blaming Jews for everything? "A pigeon shit on my head. Must be Bibi again!" "I caught my wife riding the plumber like he's Secretariat! Goddamn Jews!" "My wife caught me plugging the plumber. She ran his snake up my ass. Fucking Jews!" (No, busy plumber, and quite a bizarre love triangle, but never mind that now.)

Night owl's avatar

Time for your meds.

Ben's avatar

Why control, dumb ass.

Night owl's avatar

Attempt your response in comprehensible English, please?

Ben's avatar

Or you could literally go pound sand.

Night owl's avatar

That would certainly make life easier for you.

UncleBob9's avatar

The difference is, the Islamust Shi'ite wackos wouldn't be in charge. Also, Trump's vision is to restore American greatness rather than continue the Globalists' program of managed decline of our country. If you like Venezudlan rapists and murderers roaming the streets of Dubuque, IA whole Schwab clones undermine our currency and industries, that's your right, but it'll lead to your -- our -- ruin.

rd3's avatar

Dubuque, IA did that to themselves 30 years before Biden was president.

UncleBob9's avatar

OMG, you're defending the incestuous coot, Ice Cream Joe, who showered with his daughter and drove her mad so she became a sex addict, from criticism because the Venezuelan gangs Maduro sent to Middle America with funding by Soros and Gates by saying it happened in 1991-95 because of Dubuque's local laws, not Biden's ruinous open borders? What the fuck are you talking about?

rd3's avatar

Do you know the history of Dubuque? In the early 90's the city council declared that Dubuque was "too white" and that they needed to "enrich" and "diversify" their city. So, they built giant public housing structures and actively recruited inner-city blacks from Chicago, Cleveland, Gary, etc. to move there and "enrich" their city. That had nothing to do with Joe Biden.

If it were up to me, I'd build a railroad line down the center of the country straight to Guatemala and I'd load every single person who doesn't bear resemblance to a Mayflower descendant on the train.

UncleBob9's avatar

I picked Dubuque out of the air as a representative city in Middle America. I'd never heard of the plan to "diversify" the city by importing POC from inner cities. Sounds kind of like a test run for what Biden did (or allowed while Obama's people ran the country, anyway). Guess I should've picked Council Bluffs, IA or Goodland, KS instead.

Lugh's avatar

Wow. That's called stepping in it!

Ben's avatar

If it were up to me, I'd build a railroad line down the center of the country straight to Guatemala and I'd load every single person who doesn't bear resemblance to a Mayflower descendant on the train. rd3

That seems a rather stupid idea.

rd3's avatar

Consider it Works Progress Administration Part II

Ben's avatar

Bob, that was hardly a defense of puddin head Joe.

UncleBob9's avatar

RD3 explained what he meant. I was unaware of what happened in Dubuque under Bush the Elder and Bubba.

Ben's avatar

Neither was I.

One can't know what happens in every backwater corner of the globe.

rd3's avatar

"What difference at this point does it make?"

UncleBob9's avatar

Speaking of Cankles, there are rumors that the old bag may run for POTUS again as a way to keep herself and her husband, The Tobacconist, safe from the Epstein investigation. Just when you thought you were safe, that short, fat, hideous hag drags herself back onto the stage like Grendel's mother....

Liber8or's avatar

DNC already floating the names of Pete Buttplug, Kamala and Hillary for 2028. And Gruesome Newsome.

Kathy Christian's avatar

I read that it's shaping up to be Newsome/Buttigieg, but whoever runs needs the black vote to win, and two white guys aren't going to cut it, so I'll go out on a limb and predict Harris/Buttigieg.

Kathy Christian's avatar

That'll satisfy the black, female and gay contingents of the population.

rd3's avatar

Getting blacker and gayer by the day. Monsanto and various other sources are seeing to that. Did you see the Epstein files as it relates to their hormone manipulation?

Michael Huye's avatar

Choosing between controlling the world or being subject to it, which do you prefer for the USA? I know my decision.

el puma's avatar

Look at the cast of characters involved in this choreographed distraction... Graham, Huckabee, Witkoff, Kushner(!!)... the tip of the "spear"... with literally trillions of dollars of hardware at their disposal! Calling H.L. Mencken!...

Jack Perry's avatar

Oh, wow, war in the Middle East, just what I voted for. Oh, wait, no, I voted AGAINST that. As usual, the American voter keeps dreaming of someone, ANYONE, listening to him and responding to his not their priorities. I love Trump but not the sabre-rattling at my not his expense. Sooner or later ignoring the voters leads to heads on poles and pitchforks

rd3's avatar

The only way I'd be in favor of war with Iran is if Jared Kushner were the first man in on the ground invasion.

Lugh's avatar

Hilarious. All such "patriots" like him should show up or shut up.

rd3's avatar

Put he and Bill Kristol at the front.

Lugh's avatar

With Trump saying, It's a brave Zionist who isn't a hero in my army.

Jack Perry's avatar

Neither him nor any of his precious spawn would ever be found on the battlefield

rd3's avatar

He did manage to get a fine piece of shiksa tail to damn herself to Hell, so he must be pretty persuasive. Either that, or her father is just so compromised that he forsook his lovey daughter.

Jack Perry's avatar

Nothing gives me the shits more than seeing her all done up like an observant Jew matron such as the old hairless women I saw in Miami Beach 35 years ago

Marty's avatar

"The art of the deal is not for Sissy's"

I think the two failed attempts on his life is their biggest blunder...

He is going scorched earth on his (and our) enemy's...

Domestic and Foreign...

Ben's avatar

Yep, the leadership of Iran would have been better served to have just kept their mouths shut.

Forty years of big mouthitus is coming home to roost.

Night owl's avatar

What is Operation Ajax?

Tell us without using the Interwebz.

Ben's avatar

Read today's posts!

Night owl's avatar

Another unanswered question.

Aw.

Ben's avatar

It was answered but it requires research on your part.

NY Nanny's avatar

I can't believe that with all the shit that's going on right here in Nueva York, we are worrying about and discussing Iran and of course our main enemy, Israel. (sarc)

I don't know how many of you folks have read the latest from NYC's Commie-Islamist-DemonRat Mayor, but one of the crazies in his effed up administration was bragging that Islam has come to NY and that dogs have no place indoors. This is how emboldened these Muslims have become to even suggest such a thing. You think Americans get pissed off if you try to take their guns away? Wait till you see what happens if anyone touches our dogs!

Meanwhile, the only politician with the balls to respond was a dog loving Jew named Randy Fine who laid it on the line with this statement: "The choice between dogs and Muslims is not a difficult one."

The good people of NY have been betrayed by both the DemonRats and the NY GOP/Republican establishment. The mere fact that an outright Islamic Communist could get cheated into office in NY City shows just how bad it has gotten. Mamdani's first month is office has been a disaster but nobody seems to care. He is talking about the biggest tax and budget increases in history but there is no blowback from the "opposition."

I surely do not want my country to embark on another loser of a war, and I am surprised and disappointed that Team Trump is going in that direction.

But I am way more concerned about the fact that I am going to be forced out of my home by the Demonic Commies who have taken over this state.

And don't get me started on my electric bills which are getting to be like a mortgage payment.

Ben's avatar

Same issue in Commie California.

elysianfield's avatar

NYN,

You have my sympathy.

"The choice between dogs and Muslims is not a difficult one". A comment for the ages. But why can we not have both? If you patiently explain to the outraged Muslim that "God" is simply "Dog" spelled backwards, and maybe then show him a rendering of Muhammad (peace be unto him!) cavorting with his favorite dog "Hussain", well, then perhaps there can be a meeting of the minds? A rapprochement?

Ben R's avatar

Dogs have a use and worth. Muslims ymmv.

William Foster's avatar

What about the domestic war going on? Our enemy within, the Demoncrats, have paid no price for their fraud and sedition.

The Dude Abides's avatar

Because Team Trump is totally controlled by zionists.

Wiles, Ratcliffe, Lutnick, Kushner and Waltz especially... Trump particularly!

Ben's avatar

Indeed, time to use the FEMA camps and military tribunals.

When does the war with Canada start?

Jerri Hinojosa's avatar

"might China start a Kerfuffle with Taiwan?" Certainly not after hearing the strategic prowess of congress members like AOC. They can't stop laughing long enough to initiate action in Taiwan.