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Danimal28's avatar

I get the Islam angle here, but I believe it is the tool the British still use in the oil price/danger game here since they have been taking a cut of Iranian oil since 1908. Brent Crude prices are set in England. Lloyds controls distribution pricing based on fear.

What else do London and the globalist bankers produce? Nothing but debtors. That is globalism: scarcity and debt. They don't even produce ships anymore.

The City of London is losing their grip on all of their should-be illegal games and I love Trump for finally brining this nonsense to a head.

MarshaLouise's avatar

I agree fully with you. How I wish that truth in your second paragraph were widely understood!

Danimal28's avatar

I am 57 yrs old with a minor in 20th century history and always thought I was pretty informed. prometheanaction.com has totally blown me away. Not that they are 100% right, but wow. England(not the citizen folk) has done nothing but ripped off countries and their resources for centuries, including us. Most recently our wealth and blood for wars everywhere. Revolutionary War was over theft, War of 1812, Indian Removal Act of 1830 for our cotton, backing the Confederacy in our Civil War, Lincoln, McKinley's death, financing part of the Reich between War 1 and 2... Globalists are pure evil.

Damn the torpedoes's avatar

Nothing the British East India company and its central bankers, including Carney the Twit in Canada, have ever done has ever been for the benefit of anyone but the City of London, Lloyd’s, and the Banks of England and the globalist Fed. LaRouche, like Perot and Ron Paul were painted as crazies, because they got way too close to the truth of the devastation of central banks. The gang at Promethean action is right—Trump is reintroducing to the world the American System—where we produce and sell goods at home and the world, and the market sets the price, and the price determines the rate of inflation—not the Fed, and we print dollars, not federal reserve notes. Our debt will kill us until we get our inflation under control by becoming a producing nation with a strong defense, and lose these grifters called democrats who have never understood capitalism or the American way of life. Back in the late ‘60’s, luxury automakers produced cars that were $2,000; homes that were $20,000, and my rent for a one bedroom in Boston was $150 a month. We need to get back to that. And get the third world outta here!

Ben R's avatar

I was just told a 2-bedroom, 2-bath apartment is now going for $3822.00 a month.

A studio is now $2400.00.

Cankerpuss's avatar

The kicker for me, Ben R, is that people still have enough money to pay that rent and go to Disneyland every year and stand in lines to buy the latest upgrade in I-Phones.

Ben R's avatar

They have been trying to pay back the US for saying enough since 1776.

Everything they have done since then has been detrimental to America and its people, and that includes the parasitic entities called Canada, New Zealand, and Australia, all wholly owned by King Charles the lizard king.

Cankerpuss's avatar

Their still butt-hurt about losing the original 13 and they want them back. Something tells me they are eventually going to get them.

Beth Nicolaides's avatar

Promethian Action makes a lot of sense to me, but I can never get the caveat out of my head that it sprang from a rather flawed man, Lyndon LaRouche. One needs to exercise critical thinking with it.

Castelletto's avatar

Do we really know how flawed LaRouche was vs. how much of what we think is dictated by the propaganda campaign against him?

Ben R's avatar

We can see just how far the Socialist Left is willing to go.

Fake dossiers, intel agencies planning ops, lawfare, changing laws to just get one guy, right up to murder and dare I say it mass murder.

Beth Nicolaides's avatar

As I said, one must use critical thinking. He sounds less flawed to me than he did in the 70s, 80s, or 90s.

Ben R's avatar

Lyndon was more right than wrong.

Danimal28's avatar

100%, but I am a flawed man as well. :-D.

JulieW's avatar

Heck I am a flawed man and I am a woman! Very discerning comments by a generation trained to think critically

Ben R's avatar

How are you a flawed man if you are a woman?

What is a woman?

Apparently, we have some Supreme Court justices who can't answer that question.

Lugh's avatar

Good. Now you know the reason for WW2 and why the Germans threw the bankers out of Germany and enacted an economic renaissance. Obviously this system had to be crushed before it spread to more countries suffering under the "British" (Rothschild) boot.

Liber8or's avatar

Well said. Over weekend I came across video that explains via history how the Euro Bankers carved up the Mideast into what it is today. Video is a little long (30 mins) but as you say in paragraph 2, the usual suspects are the Globalist Bankers. https://youtu.be/ZPMGJHPujDE?si=zUvog_WYbRLrbpza

Ben R's avatar
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Straight lines: no country or people live in straight lines.

Iran needs to be carved up and turned into at least three to four countries, which would effectively end the threat of Iran.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_peoples#/media/File:Iranian_languages_distribution.png

dbriz's avatar

Ha! Good one. May happen here first.

Liber8or's avatar

Yes, I looked at map of IRAN..it's a Huge country with 6 or 7 different languages. My roommate in college was a Kurd. Nice guy and very smart in math and science. He used to tell me about his family that was trapped in Iraq by police and not allowed back into Iran. Hid dad was a watch maker in Iraq and his mother was a school teacher in Iran.

JackStrawWichita's avatar

You can't negotiate with terrorists. It has always failed.

This war won't end until the people of Iran take back their country. I'm optimistic that forces behind the scenes are working on making that a reality.

MarshaLouise's avatar

True, reclaiming their country must be achieved by the Iranian people or it wont happen, peacefully or not. One hopes there are pro-western leaders inside Iran who have these desires and capabilities.

Casey Jones's avatar

Guns would be more useful than desires and capabilities.

JohnAZ's avatar

IMO, it is what Trump expected with the first shock and awe. The regime killed 40000 of the protestors and continues today. The people of Iran need the IRGC emasculated. The USA needs to do its WW2 thing, unconditional surrender and elimination of the ruling party in Tehran. The alternative is another Afghanistan.

Ben R's avatar

In order to make that happen, they will need to rubbelize Iran.

Or get some people to stand up.

JohnAZ's avatar

Just the Tehran gang. Iran understands guerrilla warfare better than the Trump USA. The only thing that defeats guerrillas is obliteration.

Think of WW2, the obliteration of German industry and cities and Japan, With the atomic bombs, the firing of Tokyo and the oncoming obliteration with more bombing.

War is to be won.

Larry LaBate's avatar

This is only hard if you want it to be, meaning who is winning and losing and why. Obvious to literally anyone paying attention, part of Iran wants the pounding to stop, part of it wants martyrdom.

Negotiating with an entity like that is almost impossible. God bless those trying, almost infinite patience is required

Te Burt's avatar

I would really love it if murderous Islamists had a shared moment of enlightenment and discovered that 72 virgins and rivers of honey were never real, but the hell waiting for them is. There would be jihadists wandering the streets, muttering to themselves, going insane. More insane. I know. Wishful thinking. Whatever happened to "ask and you shall receive"? I feel cheated.

Cankerpuss's avatar

"discovered that 72 virgins and rivers of honey were never real, but the hell waiting for them is."

Just curious and wanted to ask. How do you know this?

William Wallace's avatar

Infinite more Sophisticated Targeted Weaponry helps speed up the martyrdom!

JDaveF's avatar
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The US military since Vietnam has believed it can win any war with infinitely sophisticated weaponry. We see how well that worked out against illiterate goat herders in Afghanistan armed with Soviet-era (1950s) man-portable armaments.

Cankerpuss's avatar

And how many wars since WWII has the US won with sophisticated weaponry?

"cough cough"

JohnAZ's avatar

I just read a section of “April 1865” discussing guerrilla warfare. It has been almost 100% effective against bigger power over history.

All you need is a cause and enough people willing to die for it long enough and the bigger power eventually gives up.

Interesting is the onset of most socialistic states has been some sort of guerrilla warfare. Shades of “The Fourth Turning”. It never ends too. For every opinion, or cause, there is an equal and opposite opinion or cause.

Ben R's avatar

Or willing to kill everyone, like the Mongol Empire did to ancient Persia.

If you kill everyone, there is no one left to fight you.

JohnAZ's avatar

If you kill everyone in opposition, the world becomes you.

Hmmm, what is the purpose of war?

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

To your list of those Americans who ought to be dropped onto or into Iran, I want to add Tim Walz, Mamdani, Hassan Piker, and John Thune (for being a jerk).

Ben R's avatar
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OAC, Pelosi, Schumer, Omar, Al Green, and let's be honest, most of the Democratic voting base as of late, the alphabet leftist media, MOST OF THE Senate, Congress.

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

I'm with you! I thought of listing every Dem I could think of, but then decided I'd still be typing an hour later. I'm sure you wouldn't mind if I included Newsom and every other Dem governor, all those who are running for office as Dems, and even some of my friends who are Dems because I tire of their vapid arguments. 🤣 (While we're at it, I'm thinking we should keep all those Europeans who were here who fell in love with America, our Ranch dressing, our free refills, and our nice people.)

Ben R's avatar

Without a doubt, Gavin Newsom is on that list.

What an absolutely odious piece of crap.

JohnAZ's avatar

MA and Ben

50% of this country should be deported to a country where they can be happy.

Marshall Hester's avatar

Jim it pains me to see how badly you're missing the mark on the ME confabulation when you get so many other analyses right. This "war" is a self inflicted debacle for the United States at the behest of Israel and Zionists. Americans overwhelmingly oppose spending blood and treasure in this latest interation of forever wars. Declare victory and get the hell out of the Persian Gulf before it gets worse which it surely will

James Howard Kunstler's avatar

Marshall — Stop watching "The View."

Cassander's avatar

I'm inclined to agree with Marshall -- both about all the stuff you get right and your dogmatic approach to the ME situation. I find far too much to worry about in terms of Israel's responsibility for current conditions to simply indict Iran for everything wrong in the Middle East. I also am disinclined to believe that regime change in Iran will settle relations between Greater Israel and its neighbors. And I have never, ever, not even once, watched "The View."

JohnAZ's avatar

Not just the View but 90% of American and world press.

And they lie, consistently without guilt. The US is decimating Iran with help from the rest of the Middle East. The world knows what a piece of shit the Iranian regime is. Most of our press is owned by globalists, hence the bullshit they emit.

Scott's avatar

You couldn't be more wrong. As others have said above, this is about breaking down the City of London's death grip on resources. Look into the founding of BP and it becomes obvious who is pulling Iran's strings. Venezuela was a similar operation, much easier to accomplish as there weren't all the competing factions. The Iranian people need to rise up and throw off the mullahs then the conflict will resolve. This is NOT a Bush forever war, that is nonsense.

Hawaiian Pizza's avatar

Delusion and motivated reasoning have displaced sense in JHK's mind, far beyond the point of recovery. Even the looming Trump Depression will only prompt further denials and finger-pointing when it hits.

There is no military option to dislodge Iran's de facto control of the Strait of Hormuz. There aren't remotely enough American troops for a ground invasion, and no ground worth taking with the troops that exist. Resuming the air war will have the same result as before: failing to overthrow Iran's government, while also prompting them to finish the job of demolishing the remaining oil infrastructure. Iran doesn't need to face off with the USA directly. All it needs to do is harass and perhaps destroy enough ships, which it can easily do, that insurers won't insure them and traffic will remain at a standstill. Likewise, all JHK's maundering about the civil government versus the IRGC and Iran being a country of fanatics is propaganda and prejudice. Whatever you think of their government, they are intelligent, rational, and (totally unlike Donald Trump) disciplined thinkers and actors. And what's more, also unlike the USA, this fight is existential for them so they have no truck with the kind of chaotic nonsense Trump visits on everything he touches.

Trump signed the MOU because he had absolutely no choice in the matter. He needed oil to start flowing again lest he become the second coming of Herbert Hoover. Following through with the MOU was the one and only way he could salvage his interests in the aftermath of his stupid blunder back in February. But Trump is also a petulant man-baby and a weak, incapable executive who utterly lacks the capability, or the attention span, to overcome Washington hawks. So the Trump Depression it is: the remaining oil stockpiles will be exhausted, the price of a barrel will double or more than double, and a billion people the world over will see their prospects disappear.

Ben R's avatar
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Idiots got to idiot and the above post screams "idiot."

Hawaiian Pizza's avatar

If you have a rebuttal case to make, make it. Otherwise you're just noise.

Ben R's avatar
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The noise is anything your anti-American ass posts, and the above is an opinion.

Anything shitty and negative you spew ENDLESSLY.

Adding you to the drop list.

Hawaiian Pizza's avatar

Earplugs and blinders won't protect anyone from what's coming. And Trump's cult of personality won't protect him from the consequences of his failures.

Ben R's avatar

More idiocy on display.

Can you do more than the current trifecta?

Kathy Christian's avatar

Somehow I think that if it were Biden doing it, it would all be just dandy. You know, democracy and all that.

Cankerpuss's avatar

I tend to agree with you. The Persians have inhabited that land for thousands of years. The USA isn't going to come along and lob a few missiles and bombs and suddenly change their mindsets over controlling the Straight of Hormuz. If I recall correctly, before Trump decided to start another USA war and bomb Iran the Straight of Hormuz was open and oil was flowing. Only after the USA started fucking around in another sovereign nation's affairs did the Straight get closed and oil stop flowing.

But then again, what do I know?

Hugh Wayne Black's avatar

Baghdad Bob?? Is that you, Bob?

William Wallace's avatar

Hawaiian you forgot to mention the Sky is falling too.

Yes it’s Not going to be easy but they can’t continue as a World Threat. GB’s Global Mafia operation is being upended and this too will have a major impact on Iran’s ThugAutocracy!

Hawaiian Pizza's avatar

Iran was never a World Threat (tm). They could have built nuclear weapons decades ago. The fact that they have refrained from doing so, forty-seven years after their revolution, is a minor miracle, considering the threats and pressure that have been applied to them.

You call me Chicken Little. Yet for forty-seven years, it has been the USA and Israel who have been shouting from the rooftops that Iran is going to acquire a nuclear weapon Any Second Now. If Iran had an actual weapon, that made them an actual threat, we would damn well know it. It's amazing how many people buy the idea that the threat is from Iran toward the world, not from the USA toward Iran, for the crime of successful defiance.

Rebecca White's avatar

“Iran was never a world threat”. Then please explain their support and control of Hezbollah and factions in Iraq's military. Plus why they have developed 2K mile range ballistic missiles. I suspect you are part of the communist red- green alliance branch of the Democrat party, Hawaiian Pizza.

Cankerpuss's avatar

They've been 3 weeks away from getting a nuke for 30 years now.

Ben R's avatar

He just revealed himself as a former troll named Majella.

I suspect this buffoon has had many names in the past, always with a shitty perspective and opinion.

Hawaiian Pizza's avatar

I don't know who that is. I formerly went by Elrond Hubbard, but never Majella.

Beth Nicolaides's avatar

It pains me that you and a sizeable cohort act and think like spaniel in the presence of a rabbit whenever Israel comes up. You remind me of my Lost Generation grandparents with their favorite scapegoat tribe. You dogs should go lie in the shade and gnaw a bone for a change; the pointing and barking is obnoxious.

Letsrock's avatar

Congratulations, you too have fallen into the Pro-Islamist, Communist trap who want all the hate and blame directed on the Jews when it's as plain as day who the threat to western civilization is.

Howard Skillington's avatar

M-I-C / K-E-Y / M-O-U…

Deception? Does attacking on the eve of mutually scheduled negotiations count? We’ve done that to Iran – twice.

The official US death count for this needless war remains thirteen – a number from which it has not budged for over two months. Do you still believe that? Really??

We keep announcing that we have reopened the Strait of Hormuz and claiming that tanker ships are moving through. How then to reconcile that claim with today’s Wall Street Journal Headline: “Frequent Oil Draws From U.S. Strategic Reserve Push Old System to Breaking Point.”

Freely traversing the Strait will not resume until Lloyd’s of London says it’s safe, and most companies that own tankers prefer their ships to be insured against sinking.

Iran has known full well for over a generation that Israel/US would eventually try to destroy it. During that time it has wisely decentralized its military infrastructure, developed hypersonic missiles (our attempts have failed, thus far) and built the capacity to manufacture large numbers of weapons on schedule.

Our defense industry has maximized shareholder dividends, instead: “Manufacturing a single Patriot PAC-3 MES interceptor missile requires approximately 24 months, with the solid rocket motor alone taking up to 30 months to produce and cure. The overall supply chain relies on more than 400 companies before final assembly.” - Foreign Policy Research Institute

“The U.S. currently possesses approximately 60 operational Patriot batteries, but its stockpile of Patriot interceptor missiles has been severely depleted. Recent assessments indicate the U.S. has roughly 25% of the Patriot interceptors required for Pentagon war plans, with stockpiles falling below minimum required levels.” - The Guardian

We had no business trying to take over “Indochina” from the French. After eight years we failed.

After lying about a connection with 9/11 and non-existent WMDs we killed a million Iraqis and created a failed state while failing to “bring democracy” to that country. We took twenty years to definitively fail in Afghanistan.

But, of course, we are winning in Iran, because we always win – until we lose.

James Howard Kunstler's avatar

Skillington -- You are so dim it makes my head snap back.

"Does attacking on the eve of mutually scheduled negotiations count?"

We attacked them because they broke a previously negotiated agreement.

What part of that don't you get?

Howard Skillington's avatar

We inhabit different realities on this issue, Jim. What part of the WSJ headline do you not get? NASCAR has a good device to keep your head from snapping back.

William Wallace's avatar

Don’t the Murdochs from England own the Globalists WSJ?

Hawaiian Pizza's avatar

The problem with your question is that even globalists (or Globalists, whatever the capital letter means) need sources of high-quality information. In fact, *especially* globalists, since you have to understand what's going on if you want to control it. Prolefeed outlets like Fox News are for spectators: they sell narrative and spin. But the WSJ and other serious journals are for players.

Ben R's avatar

Mister Skillington obviously believes himself to be the smartest man in the room, along with FOSP, aka Hawaiian Pizza.

Ask them; their egos are so far out of line with reality that it's mind-boggling.

Hawaiian Pizza's avatar

Goodness. Why would I agree with myself when I could agree with you instead? Such ego.

Howard Skillington's avatar

Our adversaries in this space have two pitiful tactics: accuse us of stupidity, or accuse us of arrogance. They will never offer any argumentation or evidence to refute our contentions because they know nothing. They're just trolls.

Ben R's avatar

Says the actual troll.

Hawaiian Pizza's avatar

In a functional sense, it hardly matters if there are 25% or 100% of Patriot interceptors available if they can't actually take out incoming targets. Theodore Postol has examined video footage of Patriots in use and concluded they are almost completely ineffective:

https://youtu.be/HGRvYOWXUCE?si=49151I580ig5BIcy

Seems decoys, multiple warheads, and maneuvering/spiraling warheads do a pretty good job of turning any 'screen' of ABMs into a sieve, made of tissue paper. Anti-missile defense is basically dead.

Ben R's avatar

Wrong.

They just need to be tuned for this type of scenario and also employ Merv-style warheads.

This is an opportunity to upgrade their design.

Hawaiian Pizza's avatar

We'll see. They don't seem to have protected Trump from the consequences of his February blunder so far.

Howard Skillington's avatar

Week twenty of one. But, of course, every war is initially marketed as being over in a few days.

David "JC" Penny's avatar

The IRGC is led by survivors - by any means necessary. Those types tend to be more psychotic than competent, requiring a purge. Been too quiet regarding SpecOps over the last month. I sense a pending beeper-op in the near future.

Michael Miller's avatar

Purge? We (Israel) has already murdered 3 levels down the leadership chain. Now it is difficult to even know who can speak for the country.

James Howard Kunstler's avatar

Look at it this way, Michael Miller: they have earned the martyrdom they worked so hard for.

Michael Miller's avatar

I just think we need to honestly self examine. A lot of what happens to us is blow back from our own prior operations. For those we should not be so blind. Iran suffered under that Shah for many years. We created bin Laden to get Russia in Afghanistan, then what happened. You and I don’t even have any idea what clandestine activities are being orchestrated as we speak. We would do well to heed the exhortations of the founding fathers regarding foreign policy.

David "JC" Penny's avatar

Founding fathers? Any clue why "the shores of Tripoli" is enshrined in the USMC song? Read more, watch less.

Ben R's avatar
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It has suffered far worse under the current regime of nuts.

As far as the Founding Fathers' views on outside influences go, that was a different world, and maintaining it was far easier.

We have been punished repeatedly in world wars for attempting it and even more by downsizing the US military.

Hawaiian Pizza's avatar

I don't understand... Punished by world wars? There have been two of them, and the USA was on the winning side in both. In the first, the U.S. sat out the first three years of war, then came in at the end and shared in the victory. In the second, the U.S. again sat out the first two years, came in after Pearl Harbor, and emerged in 1945 as the most powerful country on Earth and the inheritor of the former national empires of both the defeated Japanese and the victorious western Europeans. Where is the punishment exactly? I honestly don't understand what you're trying to say here.

JohnAZ's avatar

World wars did not end in 1945. Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan were world wars of capitalism against socialism, the USA fighting Russia, China and Iran in wars of attrition, ie guerrilla wars. The US has not figured out yet how to fight guerrillas. Obliteration, genocide of the enemy is the only solution. Trump is fighting the guerrilla Iran like they are responsible world leaders instead of the gang of religious punks that they are.

John Schrauth's avatar

Iran supposedly has/had 31 separate military zones with 31 commanders in order to survive the kind of things our military doctrine calls for. Theirs apparently calls for being the moles in whack-a-mole.

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John Schrauth's avatar

I referred to your question of who can speak for their country. Fairly difficult with factions in "government" competing with armed religious factions and 31 presumptive warlords. We don't know who is "the Prince" if even they can't be sure on any given day. It's a riddle inside an enigma inside a cluster flop inside a shit show, at a minimum.

MarshaLouise's avatar

I’m hoping for a “beeper-op” whatever that is, David.

John Schrauth's avatar

Hezbollah was concerned Israel had compromised their cell phone comms and decided to go with old school "beepers" to keep their people in the loop as they supposedly could not be spied on. Israel intercepted the several thousand beepers they ordered and replaced them with beepers filled with command detonated explosives and then delivered them to Hezbollah. Mo would answer his beeper and it would explode. There are videos of guys exploding in grocery stores and random cafes and on the street all over Lebanon several years back.

JohnAZ's avatar

The most successful form of warfare through history is guerrilla warfare.

David "JC" Penny's avatar

Dunno. Nukes worked everytime.

JohnAZ's avatar

You do realize that the Japanese elite were still considering fighting on after the bombs and Tokyo were razed. It took a rebellion inside the military and the backing of Hirohito to finally make the surrender happen.

War creates insanity.

More Bombs were coming, we would have leveled Japan if we needed to. Many people have said that a half million American GIs would have been killed if invasion of Japan had been necessary. I wonder, would we have just sat back and just destroyed the Japanese people without involving an invasion?

David "JC" Penny's avatar

Soooo, they worked everytime.

Thomas Madden's avatar

The US has been intermittently at war in the Middle East since 1991. This is the fourth war we have started in the region in that timeframe. None of these wars have worked out well for the US. This one is not working out well either. Donald Trump promised that, if elected, he would work hard to ensure that American citizens and businesses would benefit from 1) cheap gasoline 2) low inflation and 3) no foreign wars. He then did just the opposite, hurting American citizens and businesses, and proudly declaring that he "loves the inflation" that his poor policies, and his disastrous war with Iran, have caused. He is such a disappointment. I drive on our rutted, potholed roads, across creaking bridges and poorly maintained tunnels and wonder what became of our great country.

Dale Stevens's avatar

One cannot, in good faith, blame Trump for the deceit of prior administrations. Your roads should have been fixed by the infamous "Infrastructure Bill" that was pushed thru in the Biden regime, at a cost of $2 trillion. But, as we now know, was mostly a leftist grift. Put that blame where it belongs.

Thomas Madden's avatar

Our President isn't the least bit focused on US roads or infrastructure. He is focused on Iran, Venezuela, Nigeria, Ukraine, Cuba, Greenland. . .and when asked what about the ruinous inflation that is badly hurting US citizens and businesses, he responded by saying that he loves the inflation. That is as dumb as anything Biden, Obama, or just about any president has ever said. . .and I think he absolutely meant it. I am putting the blame exactly where it belongs, on President Trump's desk.

elysianfield's avatar

Tom.

"...he loves the inflation. That is as dumb as anything Biden, Obama, or just about any president has ever said. ."

You mean "ever said out loud". Our economy requires and demands inflation to sustain our debt infrastructure.

Thomas Madden's avatar

I beg your pardon? He said that after the rate of inflation in the US hit a three-year high. That doesn't help our economy in the least, of course, it badly hurts consumers and businesses. Trump has said, on more than one occasion, that he is not concerned at all about the negative effects this war has had, and continues to have, on the finances of ordinary working Americans. It simply doesn't bother him.

elysianfield's avatar

Tom,

In truth, it benefits our debt service at the Federal level. Our debt cannot be maintained without the diminishing effects of inflation. The economy is a secondary consideration. The Federal Reserve is designed to maintain a low inflation rate, a 2% target, rather than to end inflation entirely. That he stated this out loud is the gaff.

A better economy (within reason), or zero inflation? The better economy would benefit the citizen, a zero inflation would destroy the federal budget. Inflation is the driver of our debt-driven economy.

Cankerpuss's avatar

Are you actually arguing in favor of inflation or are you just stating that "it is what it is" kind of thing. Please tell me you aren't arguing in favor of inflation.

Cankerpuss's avatar

Stop all the foreign wars, bring the troops home and put them to work repairing America's failing and crumbling infrastructure. I know. Crazy, right? Having the troops located here actually doing something that benefits America and Americans, being paid with tax dollars taken from Americans to benefit Americans is nuts! Not at all. It is much more advantageous to Americans to have our troops waging war on the other side of the globe and definitely in their best interests to bomb the hell out of Iran.

DUH!

Jeff the Original's avatar

We can blame him on attacking Iran and not being bright enough to take heed about how the prior administrations faired.

It is truly astounding how wars and inflation are never Trump's fault...ever. You never allow any other Dems or ex-Presidents to use the excuses you now use for Trump.

Thomas Madden's avatar

"We can blame him on attacking Iran and not being bright enough to take heed about how the prior administrations faired." Agreed. One of the very first public figures to reach out to President Trump and congratulate him for starting yet another war in the Middle East was Jeb Bush. That made me sick. Now Jeb is babbling that Cuba has mysterious drones aimed right at the US, and we better invade. . .where have we heard that story before?

Ben R's avatar

Again, don't spoil their narrative of "But TRUMP!"

Jeff the Original's avatar

That's just BS. Trump has inherited a stronger economy both times than either Obama or Biden did. Not to mention the choruses of "But...but...but...Biden" from Trump supporters...still...

It's also entirely appropriate to judge him by the economy he left behind: one in freefall, with thousands of Americans dying in hospitals every day during the pandemic.

I remember it. Do you?

Ben R's avatar

Speaking of BS, Jeff and his narrative.

Jeff the Original's avatar

At least my narrative is about the topic at hand. For you...it's just me. Sorry your life sucks so much.

Skenny's avatar

Agree with everything except that Rosie O'Donnell, as a bunker buster, should be the first one dropped....

William Wallace's avatar

Skenny thanks, laughed out loud & now I got another week in Purgatory!

Ben R's avatar

No she went on the fat shot and is "skinny" right now.

She also got a facelift and is still ugly beyond words, inside and out.

DJL's avatar

The piecemeal attacks on shipping and neighboring countries reveal a disjointed, even broken, command structure in Iran which I believe you touch on. No matter what the Iranian negotiators negotiate, they have no control of the IRGC hardliners who can lash out with their remaining inventory of ordnance.

Hawaiian Pizza's avatar

Is the command structure disjointed and broken? Or is it just distributed, i.e. local commanders capable of carrying on operations even if the U.S. succeeded in another decapitation strike? The Iranians have had a long time to plan and prepare for the current scenario.

Suzie's avatar

I wonder if, behind the scenes, the US and Israel are working to organize some kind of internal resistance organization with Iranians. A lot of their “leadership” were executed during the last crackdown so that would take some time to find people willing and able to take over. And then there’s arming them, which is not out of the realm of possibility, but challenging to say the least.

That whole process will take a lot of time, though, to get to a place where they’d have even a slim chance of fighting back against their oppressors, and not without many facets of enormous risk to both us and them.

But short of a full scale civil war within Iran where the battle then belongs to them, this bombing campaign is going to continue -which is fine by me, just not so sure many Americans have the stomach for it.

Michael Miller's avatar

Of course the Us and Israel are “organizing internal resistance”. That is our MO. See The Shah’s installation, or how about our Ukraine Maidan operation? Is the US fomenting an uprising? Do bears crap in the woods?

Suzie's avatar

The difference with enabling Iranians to save and fight for themselves from the terrorist regime of the mullahs and IRGC and what the CIA and USAID, amongst others, have been doing to overturn democratic governments is like comparing apples and oranges.

Free Will's avatar

Anna Navarro is the worst...now that Don Lemon is finally getting totally ignored.

elysianfield's avatar

...But semi-hot in her youth.

Eric Sowers's avatar

Muslims have been making treaties and breaking them since the seventh century. They made a treaty with the Persians in 633 and broke it in 651. They made a treaty with the Berbers in 647, broke it in 698, and made them convert or be beheaded. In Spain, they promised Christian and Jews protection from Visigoths in 711 but commencing in 756 it became convert or die.

A cynic person might conclude that when it comes to expansion, you can’t believe a word that comes out of their pie hole. That cynic person would be correct.

Ben R's avatar

Expansion and forced conversion are baked into Islam, and the term radical Islam is a joke.

Hawaiian Pizza's avatar

A carton of milk placed on shelves on the day the USA most recently threatened to murder Iranians who tried to negotiate with them would still be drinkable today. That's how recent American duplicity and murderousness are.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/trump-threatens-to-kill-peace-negotiators-in-switzerland-before-they-return-home/ar-AA26cFW0

Given that, it's hilarious that someone would trot out examples over a millennium old to paint their opponents as untrustworthy.

Ben R's avatar

Another idiotic post.

Mark In Houston's avatar

Don’t forget to include Sonny Holsten in that ordinance cluster dripped over Tehran.

Tx Rogers's avatar

Hey Jim.

Thank you for clarifying the naval policy in the Middle East. It’s clear that the Iranians are not respectful of American values and mindful of the viciousness to be inflicted upon them.

But you surely must have noticed that Iran is not an American jurisdiction? And you also must have noticed that there are no Iranian forces interfering with shipping in the Gulf of Mexico (sorry ….Gulf of America) or the St Lawrence River.

Have you ever cornered a wounded dog or wildcat? And looked into its eyes as you approached it? Try it sometimes. And let us know how your stay in the hospital went.

Free Range Texan's avatar

What an utterly sophomoric response.

Hawaiian Pizza's avatar

I'm trying to understand what's sophomoric about trying to understand one's opponents. After he signed the MOU, Trump was certainly acting as if he understood Iran's point of view, for a short while. It's easy to understand why: going back to trying to defeat Iran militarily will come with disastrous costs for the USA and the world economy, so it was in his interest to reach an accommodation. I imagine that could make someone uncomfortable, if they're the kind of person who only understands or respects force. Are you that kind of person?

At any rate, Trump is as short-sighted as they come and can't stick to a plan for longer than the time between commercial breaks. So for the kind of person who only understands force, it must have come as a relief when he called the Iranians 'scum' and went back to the stupidest course of action he could pursue. The Trump Depression is starting to look unavoidable.

Sam A. Morgan's avatar

The Persians captured Emperor Valerian (AD260). during a parle. And don't forget the storming of the USA Embassy in Tehran. Negations with Iran can be difficult. Solution: 1. Apply Force. 2. Apply More Force. 3. Stop Negotiating.

Hawaiian Pizza's avatar

Great Scott! Those dastardly Persians! Surely Persian foreign policy from eighteen centuries ago is still in effect. Surely it is. Isn't it? You ninny.

Meanwhile, no doubt you've heard that the Iranian revolution came a quarter century after the USA and Britain overthrew Iran's democratically elected government and installed the shah's charming regime, yes? Seems either you haven't, and you're ignorant, or you have, and you're the kind of ninny who gets upset when other people get all upset by little things like that.