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Geoff Heinricks's avatar

It was one of the most appalling moments of histrionic lying and desperation I have ever seen in a hearing. I was riveted, waiting to see if Sanders, Warren and the other pay for play Senators would stroke out.

Kennedy is clearly the most dangerous American, in the eyes of the powerful.

Miryamnae's avatar

Incredible strength from RFK. Mind like a trap—no notes, no hesitation and with facts and stats spat out like an Uzzi. He left his well paying profession to fight a righteous battle. He is noble.

Gym+Fritz's avatar

RFKjr is the right man, at the right place, at the right time. We are so lucky to have him at HHS. Things would be so much different, if Trump hadn’t won.

It would be premature now, but after the mid-terms, I would like to see a presidential fact-finding commission delve deep into health care at the national level; take a years-long in-depth look at HHS, NIH, FDA and CDC (how the hell was the CDC so deeply involved in the trans-issue?), and specifically address everything that happened during Covid, and to focus on why, in the 21st century, the health of the nation has gotten worse - the statistics that Kennedy recited are obscene, the decades-long decline was ignored; instead the focus was on spending trillions of dollar, with little to show for it. . . . Good luck Robert.

Hugh Wayne Black's avatar

I had my doubts about RFKjr at first, but no more. I’m not sure that I agree with him on everything, but I’m very sure I disagree with these Congress Creatures about EVERYTHING!!

Breezie's avatar

The more you listen to him, the more you'll agree with him.

Occam's avatar

Imagine the courage of the man, taking on the ENTIRE medical establishment because he knows he's right.

We don't deserve him, but we're glad he's here for us.

Miryamnae's avatar

Amen. He’s the man for the job; years of researching pharma.

Suze Wins's avatar

... spending trillions of dollars that mainly went into the billionaires' dirty, corrupt pockets.

Steve  Mitzner's avatar

I wonder when the Democrats' "TARGET RFK" or "Take Down RFK Jr." advertising campaign will begin? He's costing pharma and mortuary industry Billions!

Beth Fleet's avatar

Already launched, I do believe!

John P. Wallis's avatar

No amount of money can bring back all of those KILLED by mRNA Bioweapons.

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john galt's avatar

How about Trillions of $ when considering the cost of the shots, lost wages, shutdown of businesses, et cet. Hundreds of millions is more realistic for an actual settlement, but for a verdict.

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Steve  Mitzner's avatar

107 years ago, in 1918, at Camp Funston, Kansas, a re-formulated vaccine was rushed into production vaccine gave a soldier, Albert Gitchell, a U.S. Army cook and patient zero for the 50 million kill [so-called] Spanish Flu! Did you know that Kansas isn't in Spain anymore?

Then we had the reformulated Cutter Lab's Polio vaccine incident, which Gave Polio to thousands and killed many! I honestly believe that toxic heavy metal-laced vaccines do much more damage, and make more money for our 62 Billion in Fraud fines Big Pharma! Who is also a/ or the leader in cause of iatrogenic death! Johns Hopkins claimed that pharma medicine only kills 250,000 a year or only 684 a day. Others say twice that! Not to mention all the pain and suffering! I guess Godless nations get Godless medicine, do you?

Breezie's avatar

It's been longer than that...AMA has not so ethical roots. Goes way back.

Phil Denter's avatar

RFK Jr. is either noble or controlled opposition. Time will tell.

To me? Showy opposition to hoodwink the masses while mRNA continues to be shot into people each and every day.

JohnAZ's avatar

Phil, he has stopped Covid Vaxx for kids and middle aged adults, only recommending it for the aged and special needs kids. The administration has or is going to cut off money to mRNA research. Florida is stopping mandates for all kids vaccines leaving it up to parents. I would say that is quite a statement.

Phil Denter's avatar

That's what good controlled opposition does, John. It opposes in a controlled fashion. It gives hope to the duped.

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Note: Big Pharma doesn't need anymore US tax-payer money to develop their mRNA. It's already developed now. US gov't pulling mRNA funding now is like closing the barn door after the horse is already out.

JohnAZ's avatar

Phil, mRNA is far from developed, they still do not have a “formula” that works without very significant side effects. It should never had been used as the Vaxx. The emergency that Covid provided was an opportunity for the technology to try to prove itself with zero risk. We have never heard the results of the 42000 study participants from Warpspeed, nor will we as the adverse effects of course were buried with the test results. I wonder if Trump ever saw the real data? Was his response based on what he was told by Pence et al?

Sidebar Why an mRNA shot will never be put in my body again.

Muscle injections do not stay localized in the muscle. The hurry up lines giving the shot were not using proper “blood pull back technique” to ensure the shot was not going directly into an arterioles or venue. The claim that mRNA material never left the muscle is false for many.

The claim that the Vaxx s proteins were destroyed in a few weeks was never shown, never investigated before starting the Vaxx. How long do they last, calling up false alerts to the immune system? Who knows?

Reverse transcriptase was shown to occur in liver cells with mRNA. The possibility exists that liver cells were created to provide s proteins in perpetuity. Are there stem cells in the liver, or elsewhere that the Vaxx could have affected?

What effect does long term exposure of the immune system to s proteins have on its ability to operate properly. The immune system is like an army of different soldiers co-ordinated by master cells called CD4s. What does the Vaxx do to this army? I know two people that are struggling with auto-immune disorders tied to the Vaxx. My wife and I are two that the Vaxx did nothing, we both got the disease,, twice since 2020.

Look at it logically. It does not work, people get the disease, regardless of Vaxx, and .05% die from it. By the way, that number was tabulated at the height of the pandemic, I wonder what it is now. It supposedly makes the disease less intense? Based on what? It has deadly adverse side effects that the Senator produced VAERS data showing >9000 deaths within 2 days after administration of the Vaxx. The swine flu vaccine was discarded for much less. “First do no harm” was abandoned here, IMO.

Why wasn’t a standard flu shot type vaccine not invented for Covid? Take a piece of dead virus and inject it. No RNA,no side effects involving antigens that do not go away.

One more, why hasn’t much more research been done to investigate the Vaxx and Covid itself? IMHO, it is nothing more than CYA by the government,

wkenn's avatar

John, you're overthinking it (imo). You know it was a deadly hoax. Sucked in some trusting people at the beginning. people who considered medical research, particularly published research in the formerly respected journals, to be on the level.

We found out different.

I stopped reading the 'mainstream research' and look for alternate approaches. Western medicine's strength is surgery. The rest of it looks more like snake oil every day.

Phil Denter's avatar

"Phil, mRNA is far from developed, they still do not have a “formula” that works without very significant side effects. It should never had been used as the Vaxx."

John, mRNA is developed just fine. It's just that you do not understand their motives.

mRNA was developed before WARp SpEED. It was intended to kill the jabbed in various ways and over various timelines. It is developed and working as intended.

Suze Wins's avatar

In my deeply considered decision it was the easy money for all concerned calling the shots.

Suze Wins's avatar

Sooooooo incredibly true!!!!!

michael janket's avatar

Noticed that Donnie may fight his HHS commando on the Florida mandate banishment regarding vaccines. Yup, that's what we get with Donnie and we're gonna get it good and hard.

Scott Kinghorn's avatar

Sen. Warren is insane. She wouldn't let him answer and explain anything.

Peace's avatar

And, she thinks that her optic is a positive reflection on her!

Ben's avatar
Sep 5Edited

Much like her beer summit was a huge flop lizzy warren is a strange very awkward person.

Everything about her comes off as phony.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWehvtOL_VI&ab_channel=CBSNews

I thought she was going to chip her front teeth trying to look normal drinking it.

Robert Italia's avatar

All the nasty finger jabbing--as if she's holding a knife. Extreme rage in that "woman." Criminal psychopath.

Weathership Tango Delta's avatar

Senator Pocahontas: "Everything about her comes off as phony."

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For a politician it is all about authenticity. Once you can fake that you got it made.

Lugh's avatar

Doesn't understand statistics. She actually thought the tiny proportion of American Indian genes revealed by her genetic test vindicated her claims to be Cherokee. Even ordinary people easily saw the absurdity of that.

The old Southerners talking about their Yankee relatives before things got really bad: Many of them are very kind and energetic. Admirable qualities. But they are so unnatural, one might say "pickled".

Hugh Wayne Black's avatar

Having met and drank with my wife’s southern contingent of relatives, I’m in on what “bless your heart” means, and it ain’t what a Yankee might think. As a Yankee myself, when it comes to Lizzy Warren, I say, “Bless her heart”.

tom clark's avatar

Jarek's arrived...I'm outta here!

tom clark's avatar

Jarek's arrived...I'm outta here!

Cankerpuss's avatar

It is a positive reflection on her. She keeps getting re-elected. She is fabulously wealthy. And she is famous. Seems to be working out just fine for her.

zabs's avatar

Massachusetts is in deep trouble as a result of their voting in the likes of Warren, Governor Healy and Boston Mayor Wu. Just a matter of time until they have to pay the piper. As a Mass refugee I hope I’m around to see it.

Browning1911 Man's avatar

Sister blue state Connecticut is much the same. Glad I left that leftist hell hole back in 1988.

And to think that our ancestors there fought bravely for American freedom from oppression. And now? Must be something in the New England water

rd3's avatar
Sep 5Edited

Fallen Puritanism. I'm sure you've read The Legend of Sleepy Hollow. Read it again. Irving was on to the New England character over 200 years ago. Ditto Poe. He called them "Frogpondians." The old New York Dutch hated New Englanders.

Cankerpuss's avatar

Yeah. They been saying the same thing about California for years now yet the State just continues on with its insanity.

Dennis Merwood's avatar

Same goes for Washington State, Cankerpuss.

Mike B's avatar

I have lived in California for almost half a century. Other than the fact that I have to pay so much state income tax, I don't have a lot to complain about. And the weather is nice most of the time.

wkenn's avatar

In MA put a 'D' next to your name and then wait your 'turn'.

There is some resistance, however the place is so corrupt it is beyond repair.

Consequences? More like musical chairs, a moving target, there are no consequences as the deck chairs are reshuffled as needed.

The legislature meets behind closed doors. Has a rule which says they can suspend the rules anytime they choose. Passes most 'legislation' on voice votes of the supermajority 'D' party.

Despite an overwhelming 72+% of the citizens voting in favor of requiring the legislature to be audited by the State Auditor (who is elected in state-wide election) they refuse to open the books to the Auditor. Note the Auditor has been auditing the Legislature since 1849.

The Attorney General refuses to enforce the results of the ballot question requiring the audit.

The governor hands out no-bid contracts regularly. Takes care of the illegal invaders with food, housing, medical care, transportation, driver's licenses (which automatically registers them to vote). Neglects the US citizens. The list goes on.

The Congressional Districts are so gerrymandered no one with an 'R' after their name has been elected to Congress in 30+ years.

This just scratches the surface.

Not a place with a bright future.

Mike B's avatar

The whole country is in deep trouble. It is just a matter of time until it has to pay the piper. Being the policeman of the world is very expensive.

Cankerpuss's avatar

Oh yeah and the US of A is busted. Broke. Bankrupt. The money is gone. There is no money. $37 trillion and counting. Bush didn't care. Obama didn't care. Trump 01 didn't care. Biden didn't care. Trump 02 doesn't care. They just keep spending money that doesn't exist. Worst of all, the mother truckers in Congress DON'T CARE. Just keep on spending until the good times end and let future generations deal with it.

Annette Jordan's avatar

Good news is that she's old and mortal. Thank God human beings have a limited life span.

Cankerpuss's avatar

Cranky old people like that live long long lives and they have children.

"only the good die young." - Billy Joel.

Being Bonnie's avatar

Oh but the damage they can do while alive!

Robert Italia's avatar

They all do. All it did was reaffirm their guilt and corruption.

JohnAZ's avatar

To the media!!!!

Nuala Norris's avatar

I suggest that RFKJnr, as a person with a speech disability, the next time he has to face those ill-mannered, misinformed and compromised senators, be given augmented voice assistance and a clear time period in which to answer each question.

Also, that any senator who purports to ask a question but does not wait for an answer, be reprimanded by the Chair and ordered to listen.

JohnAZ's avatar

Shrill Pocahontas using the scream everyone down technique that works so well with the media. It would be nice if the media would have some knowledge before reporting.

Cankerpuss's avatar

Isn't that how most women respond when threatened? Shriek and scream over the opposition? That's why women "win" most of their arguments. The opposition gives up because they can't be heard.

Lugh's avatar

Yes, they are violent sex in terms of emotional violence which they so often resort to.

rd3's avatar

Adam Carolla has likened them to birds. Birds are vicious, but they're small. If they were larger, they would swoop from the sky and decapitate every living thing.

Hugh Wayne Black's avatar

Putting the K in Karen!!

Beth Nicolaides's avatar

Warren is like some rabid, drink-soaked librarian, trying to shush things that would hurt her polio portfolio. She's such a cornholio.

rd3's avatar

She is the perfect New England woman. Homely, nasty, doesn't know when to keep her mouth shut.

Mr. Orange's avatar

Knowledge and truth is not their goal/job.

JohnAZ's avatar

Ain’t that the truth.

Shanna L's avatar

She is a deranged woman!!

MK Fotopoulos's avatar

She always seem to be on the verge of a full-blown mental crack-up.

Annette kimball's avatar

She needs her face slapped….hard….and frequently! Bitch Pocahontas 😡

Tardigrade's avatar

And to think I used to admire Senator Warren.

Mary's avatar

she represented her people properly

Hugh Wayne Black's avatar

She put the K in Karen!

Mike Doyle's avatar

I was waiting for Warren to leap over her desk and bite RFK, creepy screeching beast, the whole spectacle was shameful

Beth Nicolaides's avatar

She would need to smother him with her enormous, flapping ears. Use what ya got.

Mary's avatar

i saw a credible poll naomi wolf posted today that said 52% of Americans support RFK jr .. I think 15% undecided

Hugh Wayne Black's avatar

When Bernie asked, “are you calling all of us crooks?”, I screamed at the TV, “YES!!, You’re ASSHOLES TOO!!”

Occam's avatar

Imagine that, Trump has the democrats:

1. Defending violent crime in American cities,

2. Defending trans violence against American children, and

3. Publicly attacking the incredibly fit senior trying to make Americans healthier.

Clown world - looks good on 'em.

Ben's avatar

Haha yes he does they have zero common sense.

As he has said they would do anything to derail the Trump train even cutting their own noses off to spite their face if he said not too.

Don Reed's avatar

09/05/25: Add to the Pfizer Gang of Grifters the NEW YORK POST. Its coverage of the RFK Jr. hearings yesterday in today's edition is A HIT JOB. Which can only mean one thing: BIG PHARMA has FOX-PRAVDA TV by the balls (paying them for advertising their products). Reminder: This is also what props up the NFL, MLB, the NBA, and the gambling casinos (Fan Duel et al). Cut off the Big Pharma TV ads and it all dies practically overnight --- or the cost of seats to the games rise by 5,000-10,000% so that linebackers can sign contracts guaranteeing them $70,000,000 without ever having to play another game (should they be injured in their first game out); $10,000,000 for shortstops batting .210; and hockey TV contracts whose viewers represent half the audience sizes of The Dying Oscars.

Don Reed's avatar

AMUSING (Don Surber 09/06/25): "ITEM 20: Democrats tried to play Stump The Stars at a Senate hearing with Secretary Kennedy. They failed.

"LUJAN: Are you aware a guy who works for you was charged for practicing medicine without a license?

"RFK: He was charged by a medical board, sued them, and they were found to be acting in actual malice and were fined $2.6 million by a judge for doing that."

INFURIATING: Kimberly Strassel of the WSJ has sold her soul to the Devil and has just gone over to the Dark Side:

https://nypost.com/2025/09/05/opinion/rfk-jr-has-turned-health-services-into-a-goat-rodeo/j

Panama Dusa's avatar

The worms are running scared. See their wormy eyes? They know they can't stay much longer.

Mary's avatar

the vrills? eek

Panama Dusa's avatar

Shill vrills 💩🤡

John P. Wallis's avatar

It's time for all of the conflicted traitors to hang in public as a deterrent.

Crixcyon's avatar

And as long as vaccines and drugs are the biggest part of the HHS's health equation, the more will become the sicker. These poisons can never be the root of better health for anyone.

Steve  Mitzner's avatar

It's all just part of the new Satan inspired, "First do Harm" policy of Big Pharma, I.e., make 'em sick with toxic jabs, then treat them for life! I.e., more profitable than that old, God based, First do no harm, God's food for medicine first! Godless Hell bound [faith in pharma] people demand Godless Hell bound medicine!

Ron Anselmo's avatar

Processed foods started the whole thing.

Processed foods --> Sickness --> Patients for life --> Doctors and specialists on every corner --> Medications and surgeries --> Vax schedules --> Health insurance --> Meds delivered to your house --> Burial insurance.

Ready for this? The business model was so predatory and profitable, on every level, they stepped it down - the exact same model - to pets.

Processed pet foods --> Pet sickness --> Pet patients for life --> Domestic pet veterinarians on every corner --> Pet medications and surgeries --> Pet vax schedules --> Pet health insurance --> PetMeds delivered to your house --> Pet burial insurance.

Sounding familiar? Tell me I'm wrong.

JohnAZ's avatar

Well said, Ron. The main culprit in this country is the addiction problem. Until sugar and fat taste enhancement is id’ed as addictions, nothing will be done. Think about the poisons served in restaurants in order to get you to go in their doors. Sugar, salt and fat, period. Go into a Chinese restaurant and get slammed with MSG. It is an addiction in the food pyramid as much as nicotine, weed, alcohol or drugs.

Cankerpuss's avatar

Sugar is addictive. Many years ago I lost 80 pounds using the Atkins diet method. It was excellent for dropping pounds but it is not something one can maintain forever. The body needs carbohydrates to stay....hydrated. Anyway, I went nearly 8 months without sugars and carbs. The cravings for sugars never diminished. Never! To this day, years later, I still have cravings for sugars. It is a powerful addiction, one that never ends. I've managed to control my weight by strenuous weight training, running and strict sugar control but it isn't easy. From time to time I still break down and binge on some sweet stuff.

Keith Jajko's avatar

I quit sugar at the end of 2022 and lost 20 lbs., and my baseline weight has dropped dramatically, I'd say by a solid 15 lbs. I lost 2 inches on my waistline, and even now the new 32 inches feels like I actually need 31.5 because my shorts feel big. And I'm not a diet fiend nor work out excessively. Moderate shifts made tremendous improvements. And I feel much healthier which is about as important.

Cankerpuss's avatar

No doubt sugar is poison for our bodies.

How do you quash the cravings?

Ron Anselmo's avatar

Easy CP - hang tough and stay disciplined, or you'll sink to Zohran Mamdani's level - failing to bench press 135 lbs. - less than his body weight. Remember the metric for general health & strength? Men bench bodyweight, women, half bodyweight, or be exiled. Maybe I should suggest it to RFK, Jr., as policy?

Cankerpuss's avatar

I can still bench press my body weight (230). I'll keep the fight until the old bod don't want fight no mo. I think it would be a fantastic policy.

Tardigrade's avatar

That may have been your experience, but there are a lot of people who do maintain a low-carb lifestyle, 15 years for me so far. It improved my health so much that I'm never going back. Carbohydrates are the one macronutrient that are not essential in the diet.

Beth Nicolaides's avatar

Not everybody is cut out to cut carbs, and it takes a while to learn which food has "hidden" carbs. I tried Atkins 25 years ago and drifted off it, but dirty carnivore has changed my life.

Ron Anselmo's avatar

"...but dirty carnivore has changed my life." ~ Beth

That's because you're Neanderthal-American...with bad knees, but great jeans.

michael janket's avatar

Get yourself some allulose. Read up and have at it......

Mark's avatar

I don't go to restaurants where the customers are obese and the staff is thin.

Beth Nicolaides's avatar

I've dropped 47 pounds gobbling salt and fat and a moderate amount of protein for the past 11 months. Just < 20 g. of CHO. And everything I eat is a whole, minimally processed food. My labs are stellar and I have to buy smaller clothes!

My education on nutrition as an RN was hopelessly wrong.

JohnAZ's avatar

Good for you, Beth. Me too, on the RN education. Like most things with health, we really do not know much at all. The difference between people is bigger than our understanding of things so generalizations are, well, dangerous. Your health is going to improve drastically.

Ron Neff's avatar

Mr. Ron---- you are 100% correct. Our dogs ate food that we did not eat for dinner or lunch and loved it. We supplemented the table scraps with regular dog food but it was certainly not the "gourmet " food that you see constantly advertised on tv. And.....I understand that people get very attached to their animals (me included) but a lot of people do not know where to draw the line. I have kin that have done hip replacements on their dog----at great expense. We have horses and love them to death but.....they are horses. One horse got a serious inflamation in their eye and we took him to an eye doctor for horses. He helped to alleviate the pain and suffering and the doc (or time) did cure him and we asked the vet that since he was almost blind in the eye whether there was anything we could do to get his vision back. The vet said that Ohio State University (they do have something besides a football team) does have a great vet school and they may be able to do an operation to bring some or all of the vision back. I asked ----approx how much? The reply was about $10K. My reply was---thanks for the info but......I guess we will have to get used to a one eyed horse. He still navigates the trails we ride quite nicely.

Ron----just face the facts, some people have a lot more money than they have sense. It is their money so they can spend it however they want but not how I would spend it. Maybe I am nuts or maybe they are nuts ??

Cankerpuss's avatar

I read that more people in America today have dogs than have children. Let that sink in for a minute. I went on a back packing trip just last weekend and I was stunned at the number of people hiking with dogs but.....no children. I think one couple had a sleeping child in a back pack apparatus of sorts.

We had a dog, a beagle-shepherd mix. She was a gorgeous dog and a beloved pet and she had a special soul. At about 8 years she got diabetes and went totally blind. The vet told us that we could treat the diabetes with daily insulin injects but that the eyes would have to be removed due diabetic onset glaucoma. This was a proud dog. Seeing her so depressed was heart breaking.

I took her to the vet and held her in my arms as they quietly put her down.

My point? People treat their pets as if they are their children. I even see ads on the internet that show the animal as if in human conditions. Such as, sitting at a table in a restaurant and eating food from a plate, or, sitting in a car and watching a television show depicting other animals. There appears to be some strange effort to entice people to forego having children in favor of having a dog. It isn't cute to me. It's deeply bothersome and frightening.

A dog is a dog. It will never evolve beyond that. It will never improve itself. It will never get smarter or learn new skills. It has no desire to improve itself or become better. It will always be a dog. Putting these animals on par with a human child is deeply disturbing.

Ron Anselmo's avatar

Mr. Ron - I am monocular - blind in one eye myself. So, I'll give you some advice - straight from a horse's ass (me). He'll be fine, only his peripheral vison, and depth perception will suffer - we need *two-point perspective* to determine depth/distance. Trails should be fine, jumping railings, not so much.

On processed pet foods, I had a friend, a very large cattle rancher, that used to go to the cattle auctions out West. He told me that Alpo used to outbid McDonald's for beef.

elysianfield's avatar

Ron,

Interesting. However, it should be understood that a "hamburger cow" would usually grade below "utility", if there was such a grade. I would expect a brisk market for utility beef in this economy.

And, oh yeah, I have processed such animals in my cutting room.

Beth Nicolaides's avatar

Is a hamburger cow better than a bologna bull?

Being Bonnie's avatar

Alpo in its early days was often horsemeat. My pup loved the stuff!

Ron Anselmo's avatar

Hmm, interesting. Reminds me of a relative of mine and by your last name, maybe a distant relative of yours also. Charlie Anselmo, an associate of the Bonanno Family, who ran packing houses in the meat packing district of NYC, when asked about the source and grade of their carcasses, said, "Some of them moos, and some of them don't". The inference being that some were not cows, leaving horses.

Steve  Mitzner's avatar

The Godless, fraudulent medical industrial complex uses a Toxoplasma gondii style of mind control on suckers! Once infected with pharma's parasitic, fear-based advertising, suckers and chumps lose their fear of fraudulent, leading cause of Death, Big Pharma, and become more likely to get sick or killed! I.e., industry mimicking biological nature, for profit! How sick is that?

Susanne's avatar

So true. I wasted $$$ on yearly vet visits for my cat’s bowel problems. Test after expensive test, always coming back negative. Then I started giving cream to my cat and it finally healed her gut. Go figure! No more vet visits and a happy cat.

Ron Anselmo's avatar

Exactly, Susanne, food is our medicine, as it is for our pets too. Good for you, but your vet's poor children, they may have to go without shoes.

John P. Wallis's avatar

#DepopulateTheDepopulators ##MakeTreasonPunishableByDeathAgain

Casey Jones's avatar

More simply: Treatment pays. Cures don't.

Cankerpuss's avatar

See my response to Crixcyon, Casey Jones. I believe that if they found a cure for anything it would be squashed immediately due to the billions of dollars in economy lost.

Fred Richmond's avatar

Correct.

Insidious, isn't it?

Annette kimball's avatar

Thus Cancer will never be “cured” ! Too profitable

Ron Anselmo's avatar

You are correct, Annette.

In addition, the American Cancer Society has Net Assets of between $1.4B and $1.8B - not bad for a Non-Profit.

Their string of recent CEO's have annual salaries north of $1M, again, not bad for a Non-Profit.

Give till it hurts, they are so close to a cure. Can't you spare just a few more dollars?

Steve  Mitzner's avatar

I.e., the goal of patent, gain of function, medicine! Make em sick, then "treat "

suckers with toxic clot shots, requiring even more treatments and money!

Tardigrade's avatar

I once read an article in a pharmaceutical industry magazine where a pharma executive said exactly that. He said they could cure MS tomorrow, but there was no revenue attached.

Lugh's avatar

Love of money is the root of all evil. How does Capitalism square with the teaching of Christ? But poorly. What to do? Fascism answers: Impose standards and woe to those who breach them.

Cankerpuss's avatar

All things in moderation, Lugh. Money itself isn't evil, however, like you so aptly stated, the love of money is and it is essentially greed and lust for more, more, more, never being happy satisfied with one's station. That is the problem with capitalism. It isn't enough that a man is a billionaire. He needs two billion, 10 billion, 100 billion. No human being needs that kind of money. Period. People can only eat, see, read, feel and do so much at any given time. There is no reason for a billionaire. That kind of money corrupts the soul.

Like with alcohol, people cannot control themselves. It isn't enough to make enough money to retire in style, no, they must own everything and control everything and rule over everything.

Human greed knows no bounds. That is the root of all evil.

dancingtime's avatar

Chris Rock made that statement decades ago....There's no money in the cure...

Tania's avatar

As we've heard for many years: There are two wars which will never be won: The war on cancer and the war on drugs! Not too difficult to figure out why------too much money to be made on both!

Lugh's avatar

Don't worry. Once Trump's AI vaccine program is in place, you will be instantly diagnosed. Failure to follow through and actually take the medicine will result in a lowering of your social credit score.

John P. Wallis's avatar

I don't give a single fuck about a social credit system...

rd3's avatar

Is it possible to be in arrears on the social credit score? For instance, if you buy a John Wilkes Booth bobblehead doll to display in your basement, or a signed John Rocker jersey, does that put you negative?

rd3's avatar

I also own a very fine portrait of Preston Brooks. Surely, I'm in the negative.

rd3's avatar

I can't recall where I read this, but Preston Brooks was asked why he didn't just punch Sumner into oblivion and he said that radical New Englanders, like Sumner, were of such a low class that he couldn't rightly put his hands on him, he had to do it with a cane. Sort of like dispatching a homeless person with a baseball bat instead of being exposed to whatever diseases and afflictions they carry if you were to try and tussle with them.

Carl L. McWilliams's avatar

One needs no more proof that our Constitutional Republic is fallen, than the gruesome spectacle it was to see HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. take on a conclave of vicious grifters on the Senate Finance Committee, including Senator Elizabeth Warren.

Inverted Totalitarianism:

Inverted totalitarianism is a system where economic powers like corporations exert subtle but substantial power over a system that superficially seems democratic. Over time, this theory predicts a sense of powerlessness and political apathy, continuing a slide away from political egalitarianism. Sheldon Wolin coined the term in 2003 to describe what he saw as the emerging form of government of the United States. He said that the United States was turning into a managed democracy (similar to an illiberal democracy). He uses the term "inverted totalitarianism" to draw attention to the totalitarian aspects of such a system, while the term inverted helps to portray the many differences with classical totalitarianism.

Inverted totalitarianism operates through the integration of economics with political power to control the levers of government. This system doesn't require a dictator or a single-party state. It thrives on the undue influence of corporations, financial institutions, the censorship-industrial complex, and the military-industrial complex while maintaining the facade of a democratic process. Corporations and wealthy elites influence policy through lobbying, campaign finance, and the revolving doors between business and government.

Ron Neff's avatar

Mr. McWillians----great post but.....I would add one word to the second line of your reply. Rather than vicious grifters, I would suggest vicious, corrupt grifters and now that I think about it a little more maybe also insert -----people who are the epitome of the word ---- hubris.

Lugh's avatar

Well said. Our system of government is Plutocracy, with the Plutocrats deciding who gets funding in order to win elections. It's free speech!

Thus we do have a single party state. Economics can't be separated from politics after all. And as Klaus famously said, The Stakeholders are finally on board with the Transhumanist Globalists.

John P. Wallis's avatar

In this case, the stakeholders are overdue for EXTERMINATION.

Carl L. McWilliams's avatar

What is a “Kakistocracy”?

A kakistocracy is a government run by the worst, least qualified, or most unscrupulous citizens. The word was coined as early as the seventeenth century. Peter Bowler has noted in his book that there is no word for the government run by the best citizens, and that the “aristarchy” may be the right term, but still, it could conceivably be a kakistocracy disguised as an aristocracy.

What is a "Kleptocracy"?

Kleptocracy (from Greek "I steal", and "power, rule") is a government whose corrupt leaders (kleptocrats) use political power to expropriate the wealth of the people and land they govern, typically by embezzlement or misappropriation of government funds at the expense of the wider population. Thievocracy means literally the rule by thievery and is a term used synonymously to kleptocracy. One feature of political-based socioeconomic thievery is that there is often no public announcement explaining or apologizing for misappropriations, nor any legal charges or punishment levied against the offenders.

Kleptocracy is different from plutocracy (rule by the richest) and oligarchy (rule by a small elite). In a kleptocracy, corrupt politicians enrich themselves secretly outside the rule of law, through kickbacks, bribes, and special favors, or they simply direct state funds to themselves and their associates. Also, kleptocrats often export much of their profits to foreign nations in anticipation of losing power.

“The Dunning–Kruger Effect”

The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people with limited competence in a particular domain overestimate their abilities. Some researchers also include the opposite effect for high performers: their tendency to underestimate their skills. In popular culture, the Dunning–Kruger effect is often misunderstood as a claim about general overconfidence of people with low intelligence instead of specific overconfidence of people unskilled at a particular task.

What is "Rent-Seeking"?

Rent-seeking is the act of growing one’s personal wealth without creating any new wealth, by manipulating the social or political environment. Rent-seeking activities have negative effects on the rest of society. They result in reduced economic efficiency through misallocation of resources, reduced wealth creation, lost government revenue, heightened income inequality, and potential national decline. Rent-seeking is an attempt to obtain economic rent (i.e.: The portion of income paid to a factor of production from land, labor, capital, entrepreneur, in excess of what is needed to keep it employed in its current use) by manipulating the social or political environment in which economic activities occur, rather than by creating new wealth. Rent-seeking is the pursuit of income based on government favoritism to obtain contracts, revenue, and other favors that they don’t earn from voluntary market transactions. Rent-seeking occurs whenever an industry lobbies the government for subsidies, favorable tax treatment, restrictive licensing, or regulation which protects established firms from competition. These measures provide the lobbying organizations additional income without creating added value for society. Rent-seeking shields less-productive organizations from competition and enables them to extract higher prices from the public.

The term “rent-seeking'' was first coined by 19th-century British economist David Ricardo; but only became the subject of durable interest among economists and political scientists more than a century later after the publication of two influential papers on the topic by Gordon Tullock in 1967, and Anne Krueger in 1974. The word "rent" does not refer specifically to payment on a lease but rather to Adam Smith's division of incomes into profit, wages, and rent.

Lugh's avatar

Once greed dominates, they will do whatever to enrich themselves, inside outside the law if they think they can get away with. The biggest and smartest change the law so they stay inside the dirty lines.

rd3's avatar

Yes. When there are no rules, its just a big pile of money seeking to become a bigger pile of money. Most of our economy is just extractive, ridiculous financial instruments that impoverish real Americans.

Jerri Hinojosa's avatar

Sounds a lot like classic fascism.

Lugh's avatar

Which is a good thing if you only but knew.

Cankerpuss's avatar

To add to this comment, Crixcyon, I would say that as long as our health is a means of profit we will continue to get sicker. Humanity excels are corrupting and destroying everything it touches because of an insatiable appetite to get gain, known in the common tongue as "greed." The moment they turned our health care into a commodity we were doomed.

My sister is a type 1 diabetic. I often learn from her about new, promising medical advances that could cure type 1 diabetes. One of these was a synthetic pancreas that showed promise. Then, suddenly, the synthetic insulin producing pancreas disappeared. Gone. Like a fart in the wind. No information about it. Why? What happened?

Well, I don't know what happened but my personal theory is that the pharmaceutical giants who profit immensely on the backs of diabetic people who need insulin and blood sugar testing products to survive got to the person who was working on the synthetic pancreas and either bought the dude out or threatened the dude. Most likely the first.

I also remember hearing about a cancer treatment where nano technology was used to inject cancer cells with tiny flecks of gold. Once completed the person would enter a chamber that submersed the body in harmless radio waves. The radio waves would cause the gold flecks to vibrate, heat up, and kill the cancer cells. The body would then flush the dead cells and gold flecks out through the kidneys. It was an interesting concept. Then, it was gone. Never heard anything else about it.

My point? They profit from our sickness and poor health. How much economy is derived from treating and researching cancers, asthma, diabetes and other illnesses? If there was a cure to these ailments that was quick and easy, one can be damned sure these pharmaceutical giants will do all within their power to gobble it up, make it disappear and keep the people as sick as they possibly can.

I also think Americans' addictions to drugs like alcohol don't help our health none either. Alcohol is the scourge our society. It's bad for the body and people can't control themselves with it.

Ron Neff's avatar

Cankerpuss----your last paragraph is spot on. I try to speak sometimes to some of the youth at church and warn them that probably (my guess) approx 50+% of the really bad decisions made by people who have an issue to control themselves is made under the influence of alcohol or drugs and.......a large part of the young men who end up paying child support by the time they are 20 years old can thank alcohol for the 18 year commitment. And........the people who answer affirmiative to the suggestion of their friends to go do something really stupid are due to the influence of alcohol or drugs.

Cankerpuss's avatar

The police chief in my town is a good friend of mine. He showed me the crime statistics for my community. 98% of all crimes involve alcohol and drugs.

Alcohol is the scourge of society and our health. So is television. How many countless hours do Americans waste sitting on their asses watching the damned thing, shoving unhealthy snacks into their pieholes instead of being up, active, and burning calories.

There is so much that is wrong with humanity. It's hard to perceive a positive future to our species when all we do is engage in actions that are destroying us.

My Dad always said that we will reach our evolutionary apex and then we will begin to de-evolve. I think we've come to that point. We are no de-evolving and destroying ourselves. Only the fittest and smartest will survive.

Lugh's avatar

Men are preached to at church. Never women. I read one great account: Wife suddenly decided to divorce husband. When he showed up at church, everyone was hugging her and asking if she was "ok". Him? All but shunned as a pariah. His wife was divorcing him so he must be no good, right?

rd3's avatar

We have friends. Wife is a frivolous spender. Husband told me constantly that she was spending outside their means and had them on the verge of bankruptcy. He couldn't get through to her, so he just started punishing scotch until he was numb. She used that as an excuse to divorce him. All the women and some of the men sided with her. As soon as she left him, he sobered up and is into another chapter in his life. Terrible for the kids obviously, but she continues to spend like the world is ending tomorrow.

Jim Harmon's avatar

1 beer a day is fine.

Cankerpuss's avatar

The problem, Jim Harmon, as you know, is people can't limit themselves to 1 beer per day.

Just yesterday some idiot got himself drunk, got into his car, raced down main street, jumped the curb, took out a street light, street signs and a retaining wall. Now the taxpayers get to replace the damage in the public right of way and that asshole as destroyed his car.

The scourge of our society.

John P. Wallis's avatar

Which one. Most people don't think for one second to moderate alcohol use because one puts you in the mood for another and another until they realize they suffer from Serosis of the liver... I chose to drink water last night while playing pool. The drunks can't even compete...

Beth Nicolaides's avatar

I'm down with the idea of inoculating against many deadly diseases and have received many over my life, many deemed compulsory because of school or work. But I've twice had my health derailed by an MMR shot and a simple flu shot when they awakened an autoimmune disease. It disfigured my eyes and gave me permanent double vision and high intraocular pressure.

Understandably, I think, I rendered myself semi-unemployable by refusing the Fauci Sauce.

We have to stop with the technohubris, forcing people to take dubious preventive measures in order to learn or earn money. Where do they get off?

Steve  Mitzner's avatar

— Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, [not to be jabbed] to purchase a little temporary Safety, [or job] deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." But what would he know! Right?

Gene Frenkle's avatar

Except they can with Wegovy. Btw, most of RFK’s anti-Fauci book was actually about how HIV meds cause AIDS which was a conspiracy theory developed in 1995 just before Big Pharma effectively ended the AIDS crisis in 1997!! Big Pharma finally perfected the drug cocktail that not only prevents AIDS but also prevents transmission of HIV but a conspiracy theory had already taken hold because it took awhile to end the AIDS crisis.

Being Bonnie's avatar

RFKjrs "The Real Anthony Fauci" work referred to the AIDS/Hiv situation which actually took place in the 1980s. He referenced the work of Ken MCarthy who produced this film and exposed Fauci for the murderer he is/was.

https://youtu.be/wy3frBacd2k?si=b4IPwvfNlmB0iTkU

Being Bonnie's avatar

Thank you. Your report perfectly sums up the atrocious 'hearings' in the Senate with the usual pack of hounds baying from their prepared scripts. It's worth noting that the HHS Secy has not ONCE had to refer to a flash card, a note, or a teleprompter for his information; facts, figures, numbers. A Republican senator, Roger Marshall of Kansas announced that 'RFKjr has the thickest skin I've ever seen' in reference to Kennedy's guts and aplomb in the face of outrageous personal insults and finger-pointing. I couldn't agree more.

Jerri Hinojosa's avatar

And he doesn’t do the “I’m unable to answer due to an ongoing investigation” or “I don’t recall” a la James Comey and Hillary Clinton. And how can we forget Robert Mueller’s “That wasn’t part of my investigation”. Lying cowards, all of them. Politics attracts the very scum of the earth. Those who aren’t corrupt when they arrive in DC are corrupted in short order.

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Hugh Wayne Black's avatar

He also has NO respect for the lowlife senators that are submitting him to this inquisition. They’re ignorant of the facts. He knows it. They know it. He knows we ALL know it.

He owes them ZERO respect, and he’s not about to give it until they have valid data to back up their arguments.

Being Bonnie's avatar

I have enjoyed it immensely when, getting nowhere with a particular shrieking inquisitor, he simply blurts out (under the unhinged grilling by the shrew from Massachusetts- Elizabeth "Liawatha" Warren, for example)- 'And you've accepted $880,000 in donations from the pharmaceutical industry!' It's just too beautiful for words.

Jack's avatar

RFKjr sits unassailable in front of the senate committee wearing the armor of truth.

Cankerpuss's avatar

The truth is unassailable and those dirt bags in the Senate know it. The wicked and the liars are offended by the truth and resort to weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth when confronted by the truth.

Mike Doyle's avatar

Truth is Kryptonite to these people

cbeard's avatar

I don't think any sane person could have watched the screaming banshees attacking RFK and not be disgusted with those grilling him. Especially Sanders and Warren. What the hell is wrong with people who would vote for such obnoxious, dishonest, grifting pieces of shit. I have had no vaccinations since grade school. Not one, and due to my total distrust of the medical/pharmaceutical industry, I don't think I ever will. The only drug that I take at 70 years of age is a blood pressure pill and I am working to stop that too. My daughter is an RN along with a couple of cousins in the same profession and all are brainwashed by the health/pharma trolls.

John P. Wallis's avatar

Quacks, Oops, I mean doctors want you on as many drugs as possible to maximize their profits. Yhe sicker you are, the more they make off of your sickness. When you die, they are not blamed even though they caused your death by Conning you into doing what you're told. Didn't you ever wonder why they told you not to eat Grapefruit while on Blood Pressure meds? It's because Grapefruit alone can lower your blood pressure. Stop listening to the loon who has ZERO accountability for your death.

Jack's avatar

I agree. This is not helping the Democrats brand!

Ben's avatar

I have learned to despise Bernie Sanders after he took the pay off to step down for the hildabeast.

I always knew he was a phony but that just proved it.

A 40 year old man that had never held a real job and was booted from a hippie Commune for refusing to actually work.

Warren is just as fake and useless.

John P. Wallis's avatar

Every single piece of shit traitor making BANK off of a SEAT in Con-gress deserves to hang in public. I will gladly bring the ROPE and 🐎 Horses. Transistors who Sold US Out must hang. Freedom is not Free. Nobody should EVER be allowed to Sell Opportunities from any American especially when the result compromises American National Security because too many of US forgot how to make our own weapons. God created no bigger Fool than the Free Man who Feeds his Communist Enemies for profit.

Jerri Hinojosa's avatar

And unflappable, even with a speech impediment.

Polly Frost's avatar

What I see in a lot of people I know is VGS - vaccine guilt syndrome. It's why they hate Kennedy, because they don't want to face what they did, which was to pressure their friends, relatives, employees and children into taking something they believed would keep millions from dying. But, in fact, they were insisting, and in many cases, forcing poison on other people. Including people they loved.

Candis's avatar

It's always been that same story with the 72+ childhood vax mommies as well. They will fight until their dying day for the right to push those poisons into their babies. They can't admit to what they've done already. It's an elegant trap that was set, just for them.

Steve  Mitzner's avatar

How else could our Satan inspired fraudulent pharma get the childhood disorder rates from 1 in 30,000 to our now, more profitable, 1 in 30 sick kids needing pharma meds?

Polly Frost's avatar

You are so right. One might almost think the medical-industrial-complex used psychological data.

Steve  Mitzner's avatar

What you mean, "almost think" Kemosabie? Edward Bernays, "The man who brainwashed America." Explaned In his 1928 book, "Propaganda," Bernays hypothesized that by understanding the group mind, it would be possible to manipulate people's behavior without their even realizing it. To test this hypothesis, Bernays launched one of his most famous public relations campaigns: convincing women to smoke! And much much more! I.e., the goal of Satan inspired public "education" to make Godless Cogs to support the Godless industrial complex, as John Gatto's book put it!

Lugh's avatar

In for a penny, in for a pound!

Lisa's avatar

It's bizarre to hear so many people regurgitate the entrained narrative that 'millions of lives were saved because of the covid vax!' - As if anyone can possibly know that... - The same thing with 'Vaccines do NOT cause autism.' When I asked a person who had scornfully responded to me with this line I calmly asked her just that: 'How can you possibly know that?' - Her reply was to shriek even louder: "Vaccines do NOT cause autism!!!"

Polly Frost's avatar

“Vaccines do NOT cause autism!” But shrieking definitively causes headaches.

john galt's avatar

Again, how do you know vaccines do not cause autism, since you capitalized the"NOT"? Unless you are simply a troll working for, or involved with the pharmaceutical industry, perhaps you should wait for the testing on that question to be completed. Unless, of course, you have the answer to the explosion of autism along with the explosion of vaccine shots to infants and young children.

Polly Frost's avatar

I was quoting Lisa's person who shrieked that at her.

Annette kimball's avatar

Vaccines DO contribute to Autism! They are kept in mercury-based solution! A BRAIN poison……plus added unknown solutions

Kathy Christian's avatar

The world is run by evil people who do the bidding of very real demonic entities from the powers and principalities in high places that Paul talks about, when he says we do not fight against flesh and blood.

Elizabeth “Libby “ Richter's avatar

Those Senators who yelled at and vilified Robert Kennedy Jr. probably patted themselves on the back for a job well done. They actually revealed themselves to be rude, vile and reprehensible agents of their greed and our doom. Mr. Kennedy wears the look of a man who is waging a raging battle for the health and well-being of the people of our country as he has aged remarkably in the last 7 months.

We owe him our lasting gratitude for his vision, bravery and capacity for the fight. He is a real “Profile in Courage.”

Jerri Hinojosa's avatar

We have to remember many of these senators are auditioning to run for president.

When a female in a position of authority shrieks while making an argument like Liz Warren, I feel embarrassed to be a woman.

Elizabeth “Libby “ Richter's avatar

I agree. Elizabeth Warren and many of her fellow Senators were braying like a bunch of school yard bullies and not letting Secretary Kennedy answer their “questions.”

Also, many women, like Warren, would be well advised, upon entering politics or working at news programs, to take voice lessons to learn to modulate their voices. The high pitched tonal quality of Warren’s voice, coupled with her schoolmarm delivery, makes her rather unbearable to listen to, much less watch.

Tardigrade's avatar

Their only purpose in these hearings is to create soundbites. They don't really care about the hearing itself.

Elizabeth “Libby “ Richter's avatar

Yes. Very true. The hearings were like a farce, wrapped in a travesty, inside a scam.

Mark Farris DDS's avatar

Our politicians are crooks.

Our leaders are psychopaths.

Our doctors are killers.

Our journalists are liars.

Our teachers are deceivers.

Our pastors and priests are fakers.

Not all, but many.

What a strange sojourn this is…

Believing loyalty in Jesus, each day, is the way. It is known.

JohnAZ's avatar

Pope Leo XIV just put out a talk about Trump. He basically said that Trump is like a rider on a dying eagle, meaning the USA. He is trying to correct the eagles down slide but the bird is beyond redemption. The only way to save the eagle is for the people to find their way back to God-given goodness, ie our moral code. iMO, he means abandon the ult-left’s move into immorality of all kinds, sex, drugs, LBGTQ+, war, and slaver trafficking. The ult-Left is profiting mightily from the crime it is encouraging, so the Pope might be onto something here. I believe he is from Chicago.

JohnAZ's avatar

This Pope is going to clean house in the Vatican, where he faces the same sort of corruption as Trump does here.

Lugh's avatar

Barnhardt

Burke asked Antipope Prevost for permission to have a Mass said in St. Peter’s Basilica for the Summorum Pontificum pilgrimage at the end of October, as had been tradition until Antipope Bergoglio banned it.

Antipope Prevost told ++Burke, “I’ll think about it. We’ll see.”

Don’t hold your breath, folks. “I’ll think about it. We’ll see” is all but a hard “no, go jump in a lake” in diplomatic terms. Just to be NICE, you understand.

All together now:

Antipope Prevost is Antipope Bergoglio with good manners, 40 more IQ points, wearing wool gabardine instead of cheap polyester, and speaks mother tongue American Engli$$$$h. In other words, orders of magnitude more dangerous.

Saints Peter and Paul, pray for us.

Our Lady of Fatima and Guadalupe, pray for us.

Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy on us, on the Petrine See, and on your Holy Church, outside of which there is no salvation.

Lugh: He's a far more gifted man than that the vulgar, thuggish Bergoglio. Has no problem with a bit of Latin razamataz at times. He can even chant it, having a decent voice. But he believes ALL of the same things as Berg. He in not reforming the Church. He is continuing the transformation of the Church into the Anti-Church. Many Trads don't want to believe this, so they are fooled - again.

elysianfield's avatar

John,

Many Popes have died trying to promote change. Presidents also.

JohnAZ's avatar

Yup, makes me respect them more for their cojones.

Annette kimball's avatar

That is great news!

tom clark's avatar

And you, my friend, are a pessimist.

Cankerpuss's avatar

A pessimist or a realist?

I tend to agree with Mark Farris. Over the years I have come to have deep mistrust of just about every institution our society can offer. The greed and lust for power corrupts everything and humanity cannot control these things.

Ron Anselmo's avatar

Tom - an optimist hopes something good happens, a pessimist hopes something bad doesn't happen - the operative word being hope. (Hope, the last vestige of denial).

A realist, like Dr. Mark Farris, above, simply states what is.

JohnAZ's avatar

Ron

An optimist assumes that something good is going to happen and ignores when it doesn’t. A realist has little opinion and is rarely surprised. Most realists have plan Bs for everything. A pessimist assumes that the worst scenario will naturally occur and puts up preventive action to offset the consequences. Preppers are born pessimists.

The results? Optimists and pessimists become realists with age as wisdom comes into play. Wisdom, the accumulation of knowledge that occurs after being hit by the same crap over and over.

tom clark's avatar

Ah, wisdom...so precious...it's like the serenity prayer says: Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the WISDOM to know the difference. Wish I had a Plan B for this crazy world, though.

Opie the Mick's avatar

I hate these libtards who describe Kennedy as a drug addict with a worm in his brain. It's even worse when it comes from self righteous conservatives. Gotta say though that he pinned their ears back with his pithy remarks.

Ben's avatar

How is it worse?

Both are phony.

wkenn's avatar

RFKjr holds up quite well in these sessions because he understands the demon he is confronting. Thus he is not easily rattled by their obfuscations and half-truths passed off as 'facts' when the real story is the cover they seek for all the 'income' provided by the pharmaceutical industry, among others.

Elizabeth Warren gets apoplectic when he brings up her known (likely augmented by yet to be revealed perks) price for shilling for Pharma of $855 million.

At one point I thought Bernie might have a seizure.

Good thing they finally ceased after 3+ hours, I was running low and need to make a popcorn run today.

Ingrid's avatar

The best overview yet!

Ben's avatar
Sep 5Edited

Not exactly Mister Kennedy!

They did how ever tell us a lot of wrong information for example the food pyramid is all wrong!

You are what you eat and if the food is toxic what is the result?

Toxic fruits and vegetables that people think are healthy!

Why is organic the most expensive when it is the least processed of all the foods?

Toxic dead water full of poisons and yes using petroleum-based fertilizers kills the soil and poisons the foods further!

I find it very odd that at the starting point of GMO it was the whacko liberal types all into whole foods and organic and now they are leading the charge into foods infected with bt toxins and gene edited with cockroach genes.

A nice side of hiv in your corn on the cob or now "vaccines" grown in the vegetables and fruits!!

What did that corn ever do to deserve being so badly treated!

Worse the new Monsanto seeds use a toxin that kills other plants called roundup as a form of fertilizer as well.

Roundup sticks around for a very long time and is now a confirmed carcinogen.

Now we are getting it from the air, water, food, injected into us, and the very dirt we walk upon.

Vaccine delivery system via corn:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7126512/

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0264410X02006059

corn hiv vaccine:

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2161-edible-hiv-vaccine-breakthrough/

bt toxins:

https://entomology.ca.uky.edu/ef130

Roundup:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9229215/

They say they are designed to tolerate Roundup but the truth is they don't grow properly without it.

Lisa's avatar

Because the glyphosate from RoundUp can spread and contaminate otherwise organic crops there is now a 'glyphosate residue free' certification.

https://detoxproject.org/certification/glyphosate-residue-free/

Letsrock's avatar

Now incorporate AI data centers into the mix!

Ben's avatar

Be my guest.

Massive water consumption for cooling and using up all available electricity.

Lugh's avatar

Roundup is brawndo. It has what plants like. It gets a bad rap just like radiation. They are agents of evolution! Watch the movie, Repo Man.

rd3's avatar

You mean water, like from the toilet?

Ben's avatar

No the datacenter in Utah has depleted the ground water.

https://energy.policyplatform.news/environment/growth-data-centers-water-worries-persist

These might how ever be perfect uses for toilet to cooling instead of tap water.

Mark's avatar

When bars were allowed to stay open but prayer-singing churches had to close, the absurdity of the rules became clear

Cankerpuss's avatar

I knew it was a fraud the moment we were told it was safe to enter Walmart, Home Depot and Amazon ware houses but if you enter a church, a fitness center or a school the virus suddenly became active and was extremely dangerous. And people believed this. Pathetic.

I also knew it was a fraud when I tried on one of the cloth face diapers and noticed that when I exhaled the air, instead of the air discharging forward, the air actually discharged to the sides of the mask. I also held a mirror to the mask, exhaled and noted the water vapor that formed on the mirror. The mask doesn't filter water droplets but it filters even smaller viruses? My big ass they do.

I once belonged to a church, a prominent church in my state that has bi-annual conferences. I remember watching the conference during the covid debacle. Behind the church leader, who was masked, was a choir. All in the choir were seated 6 feet apart and all were masked. The church leader stood and stated that all of the members of the choir were previously tested negative and were all vaccinated and were appropriately separated. I laughed out loud when they all stood to sing and removed their masks. If they were negative, and if they were vaccinated then why the hell the need to be spaced and masked? Needless to say, I no longer actively participate in that religion and have nothing but disdain for its leadership.

When one calms themselves and quietly analyzes what they are being told the absurdity of it all quickly becomes apparent. But, the problem is, most people can't sit still and be quiet longer than 30 seconds in today's hyper entertained world.

I will never forget the lies perpetuated during covid. Not just by the government but by nearly everyone in leadership positions. I still suffer a little PTSD from it all. I still find it hard to believe that so many people were so easily and colossally duped by all of the bullshit.

Lugh's avatar

I saw a great clip of a kid diving with his covid mask on, as if it was scuba equipment. He came up, took the mask off, took a big breath, put the mask back on and dived.

Cankerpuss's avatar

I still see morons sitting in their cars, by themselves, with masks on. I kid you not. I still see them out there. I can only imagine the terror those poor tortured souls feel every day leaving their homes. I almost feel pity for them.

rd3's avatar

For many, I think it has become a way to hide in public.

Letsrock's avatar

The Covid debacle also succeeded in the loss of countless small businesses and jobs deliberately destroying what was left of our economy and people's lives. Heads must roll!

Cankerpuss's avatar

That one is on Americans for willingly permitting their livelihoods to be shut down because of a nasty flu virus. In a country where people are supposedly free, Americans should have stood up and firmly told all the governments to go fuck themselves. But they didn't. The succumbed to the insanity and closed their doors. Pathetic. All of it. Every aspect of it was pathetic. We were played like an out of tune piano and we even persecuted our neighbors who were brave enough to try and resist.

Letsrock's avatar

Woulda, shoulda, coulda... cognitive dissonance or willful ignorance it was a well thought out psy op by tptb.

Steve's avatar

Elizabeth Warren does not represent me. Unfortunately, I know people who cheer her on, but they are not the majority of Massachusetts residents I come in contact with every day. It is beyond me how someone as odious as Warren manages to stay in office year after year.

Cankerpuss's avatar

Probably because our elections have not been honest elections for decades now.

William Wallace's avatar

Same way The POS Grifter Joe Biden was installed!

JohnAZ's avatar

The same way the mayor of Boston does, the place is loaded with academia.

elysianfield's avatar

John,

Can you say "patronage"? It is everywhere thus. A major perquisite of the electoral process.

JackStrawWichita's avatar

Every person that I know from Mass is a liberal. I know that's not universal, but I'm talking about dozens of people. It's pure group think.

JDK's avatar

Bravo, Mr Kunstler! Let us all realize: as we look at this whole Covid thing as a drastic failure, the global cabal considers it somewhat a success in their efforts to reduce global population and control the populace. But it woke many up and now we've engaged in battle. Sec Kennedy is at the front lines.

Tractorguy's avatar

Great piece as always, Jim, but I have to argue with one thing. "The legal reasoning behind it was specious because corporations, unlike real human citizens, do not have duties, obligations, and responsibilities to the nation, entailed in their citizenship."

When was the last time you saw ANYONE in this country concerned about their duties, obligations, and responsibilities to our nation? Not their own personal gain or pleasure?

James Howard Kunstler's avatar

Doesn't mean we don't have duties, obligations, and responsibilities. Your reasoning may be specious too.

JohnAZ's avatar

Both are right. The main problem is Joe Average who is losing his feeling of belonging to a community and only wants what he can get. Leo is right with his description of Trump, a rider on a dying eagle. Everyone seems to be demanding all their rights, but do not pay any attention to the responsibilities that go along.

rd3's avatar

Everything is better understood as duties and not rights.

JohnAZ's avatar

Rights have responsibilities associated with them. They are not stand alone. The converse statement holds a lot of weight with me, if you do not shoulder the responsibility, you do not have the right. Ci vil disobedience and criminal activity removes the rights that people have, that is why deportations of criminal immigrants are appropriate as they have no right to legal action.

Dennis Merwood's avatar

"Everyone"......not including you eh, john!

You are special!

JohnAZ's avatar

Everyone, especially you.

Dennis Merwood's avatar

Judge not, that ye be not judged.

For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

Matthew 7:1-3

Paul B. Cohen's avatar

The point is corporations, in violation of the law and doing harm to the public, shield the individuals within it responsible for the damage from the consequences they would face as individuals committing the same.

Lugh's avatar

Good point. Limited liability is one big reason for their creation.

Tractorguy's avatar

I get that. My point is there is no concern for duties and responsibilities to our nation at the corporate OR the personal level any more. I'm afraid that noble concern went out the window many years ago.

Paul B. Cohen's avatar

Are you part of the problem or the solution? Isn’t it time for action generated by honest self-reflection rather than cynical despair over the sins of others?

Tractorguy's avatar

I try to be part of the solution. I was raised by my parents many years ago to realize that I was not the center of the universe, and I raised my kids that way too. I feel like those of us that hold these values are in a tiny minority. I am greatly heartened by the swing back to center that this country has taken in the last eight months. I am equally disheartened, though, by all the people that are fighting it tooth and nail.

Paul B. Cohen's avatar

The former is what RFK Jr so vividly represents and what Jim is communicating at large in his writings.

Annette kimball's avatar

I disagree! I assume my responsibilities to be a good citizen, be honest and a member of the AMERICAN community!

And I think many dissatisfied & angry citizens try to do their best for our country!

God bless PDJT and America

Cankerpuss's avatar

"When was the last time you saw ANYONE in this country concerned about their duties, obligations, and responsibilities to our nation?"

Although I agree with your post, my question is what duties are you referring to?

Shopping? Paying taxes? Military Service?

I ask the question because other than shopping and paying taxes I don't know of any duties I as a citizen am committed to because there is nothing I can do.

Run for office? Don't have the vast monetary reserves. I actually did run for local City Council and School Board offices but lost big time because I wanted to cut government services and spending. Not popular from a people who love their government. People get frothing at the mouth angry if you propose eliminating the annual city sponsored Easter Egg hunt or Santa Claus comes to town parade.

Sign up for the military? And die in a shithole country on the other side of the world fighting for reasons that don't make any sense and don't protect or benefit the USA.

I think we should have mandatory responsibilities such as:

1. Mandatory military service. Even those not physically able to meet military service demands should be able to serve. Cooks. Clerks. Secretaries. Custodians. Mechanics. One doesn't need to be able to climb tall wall to do these things. Every American should be obligated to at least a 2 year service term. People would think far differently about America if they were required to serve in its military.

2. Mandatory Congressional service in State or Federal office. Congress should be a lottery of net taxpaying citizens who are drafted to serve one 3 month legislative session every two years. No more elections. No more campaign contributions.

3. Mandatory civics training. Every American must be constitution certified.

We don't have any responsibilities as citizens anymore and so, nobody cares about the country.

Dennis Merwood's avatar

But that does not include you eh. my friend.

You are special!

Cankerpuss's avatar

You know, D M, I was actually getting to where I enjoyed your comments and then you go and drop a dud like that.

You can and should do better my friend.

Dennis Merwood's avatar

We don't have any responsibilities as citizens anymore and so, "NOBODY" cares about the country"....except you and JohnAZ. Pretty condescending, eh?

I repeat.....

.Judge not, that ye be not judged.

"For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?"

Matthew 7:1-3

Cankerpuss's avatar

You can do better than that D M. Yawn.

nedweenie's avatar

That people have no problem forcing their less well off neighbors (often fixed income seniors and/or young families) to pay for assorted feel good entertainments via heavy property taxes is astounding to me. Along with town Board of Education budgets, the general sentiment is "Pay for our pretty ponies or move."

Cankerpuss's avatar

My City maintains a golf course, a museum, a swimming pool and other recreation activities that a City should not be maintaining. Cities should be providing for roads, water and sewer utilities, public safety and building safety. Everything else should be privately maintained. But, anybody who runs on that platform will be run out of town at gun point.