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Grape Soda's avatar

Sorry but it’s incorrect to say “we” have a hard time talking to our relatives and friends. You show no such difficulty. You are trying to give grace to your enemies, but it is they who have created the enmity. This seems clear to this outsider. Nor have I ever seen you indulge in cliches. It’s your interlocutor who shows intellectual poverty. It is a sad and painful experience, even at a distance. But this isn’t your burden. Yours has been to try to make sense of the insensible.

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

Not only do these people not tolerate any dissent, their assessments of fascists like Charlie Kirk are preposterous. Charlie Kirk wasn't another Benito Mussolini or Adolph Hitler. Charlie Kirk never called for genocide or advocated for a press corp that was perfectly aligned with the State. His main niche was engaging those who might disagree with him in constructive dialogue or debate.

Was Hitler known for using the same approach?

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Cankerpuss's avatar

All they say about Kirk was that his words were hateful and horrible but they can't pinpoint or provide any example that substantiates this claim. Humanity, it seems, is losing the ability to think in reasonable measures. This tribal mentality is destroying our species.

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Doug Young's avatar

Some of them actually do produce examples: Highly edited-short bite videos of his debates that are purposely cropped to be out of context, implying that he was racist, sexist, etc. circulated all over Bluesky.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

Good points. With today's technology they can edit anything to make someone appear as who they exactly want them to appear.

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Tony Lauria's avatar

Another example of the dangers tech presents when misused.

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Sonny Lapilotta's avatar

Maybe, maybe the single scariest threat to our culture..AI and the tech explosion derived from it are changing our mores in plain sight.

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JOHN WEST's avatar

I believe that these 10 second video clips on virtually every SM platform are what people now use to form their opinions...Cell phones and SM are a huge part of this problem.

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Mike Simmons's avatar

The reason facts don't change most people's opinions is because most people don't use facts to form their opinions. They use their opinions to form their "facts".

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Lugh's avatar

He said White people are people and had rights. This is heresy. He said women are different from men. He deserved death!

He was heading in the right direction. Back to Tradition. Catholicism. Women under men's watchful protection - even from themselves.

Of course Christianity is a universal religion that had been weaponized against, leading us to open our borders. Christ said to go out and convert all men, not to let them in. Charlie was sound, not brilliant. This would have had to be explained to him repeatedly by high level people in order for him to even begin to get it.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

Well said, Lugh. All of it.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

Good point. I had not considered the weaponization of Christianity to align with the open border goals of those who profit from cheap labor and a divided populace which cannot fight back politically.

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JohnAZ's avatar

The Left wanted votes, period. Christianity has nothing to do with it. Look at the Left’’s legacy in the USA right now, their socialism hates all religions as they compete with the state for people’s souls. They do not use Christianity, they despise it. I, for one, never heard Christ’s name used in defense of the open border, just total baloney from Mayorkas.

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Sue Don Nim's avatar

The very existence of Bluesky proves that they have a mindset of intolerance. After all, after Twitter/X let in people with different opinions, they had to create their own safe space. Simply put, those people are not adults, they're children stuck in perpetual childhood.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

Yes, refusing to talk to someone is very similar to a toddler holding his breath when he doesn't get what he wants.

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MarshaLouise's avatar

Very interesting. So that’s how it’s done. It’s the Bluesky crowd.

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MA's avatar

The good part is that reasonable and non political people will now watch Charlie’s videos for the first time and fall in love with his character, his strength and fairness in dealing with these poor brainwashed college students.

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Unja Bed's avatar

I particularly enjoyed Jordon Peterson's interview of Charlie Kirk. It's only been out for four months. You get to see and judge CK for who he really was, and it has helped me understand just how much he was a threat to the evil elites and why they might continue to try to reshape history and denigrate his name after death. I hope his cause continues to strengthen and endures.

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

Or the “evil elites” might have had something to do with his being “taken out”?

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Thank the media, all of it. These people you refer to think if they check out cnn and pmsnbc, they are then getting at least a true story, dont realize they can’t get the truth from any network outlet, and newspapers, anywhere. It’s almost comedic, if it weren’t so dangerous.

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Breck Breckenridge's avatar

true, alas

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Amuzed_Traveler's avatar

Just because there are people among us who walk on two legs and speak, doesn’t make them human. There’s a certain level of empathy that is required in order to attain the level of being a human being.

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Maureen Hanf's avatar

Yes and I see so much narcissism going on with them also.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

Interesting thoughts. You speak truth. if Humans don't seek to improve and become better than they are they are no better than the dogs, cats, rats and mice who are content to exist as they are forever.

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JohnAZ's avatar

Human history is laced with ethnocentrism. Even tech progress has been done during times of war. Two groups vying for ascendancy, bullshitting around until the only way to settle differences, war ensues. One side wins, their agenda is instituted, and life goes on. Genocide is used more often than not. We make improvements to win the next war, not for the betterment of people.

A good example is the Interstate Highways, instituted by Eisenhower after seeing the Autobahn in Germany. He had to sell it not as a boon for the people, but as a way to move defenses around the country. Those wonderful deep based roads are there to support the movement of tanks and other equipment.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

The irony is the consistently deliberate cruelty of the left in the name of kindness.

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Toby's avatar

until you get up the ladder to humans ir is easy to differentiate the species. There are many species of humans but it can't be discerned from physical characteristics, but only by mental, emotional, and spiritual attributes.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

It causes the left pain to hear the truth.

This pain is what they consider hateful and horrible.

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JohnAZ's avatar

The Truth? The Left? Oxymorons.

The goal of the Left is the obliteration of the Constitution and its republic. It is about time that the Patriots of the country, its defenders, realize that and obliterate the Left, politically. BTW, Balkanization only puts off the inevitable war.

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Breck Breckenridge's avatar

Yes! And just where did this come from anyway? I will hazard a guess. It comes from a well-thought out psychological operation formulated by the global financial oligarchs' think tanks. But wait! that's a conspiracy theory!

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MarshaLouise's avatar

Yes, indeed. It is they who own and control the media.

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Breck Breckenridge's avatar

And many other things as well of course. This is a global financial and corporate oligarchy.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

Yes, there is.

And they mostly know each other and do favors for each other, all of which involve extracting more wealth from the public and suppressing dissent.

They don't care at all what we think. They care what their friends think.

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Lugh's avatar

No, the tribal mentality is innate. Any political system that denies human nature is the enemy - just as much as people from hostile tribes. Contemplate the madness of bringing such people into our nations. Those who did it knew well what they were doing.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

The division from bringing in hostile tribes works for the benefit of those people in power who are terrified that the public will unify against them. Divide et impera.

Deliberately divisive diversity is destroying this country, but they don't care. They can simply move on to the next country that hasn't quite caught on to the game yet.

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JohnAZ's avatar

It happened in Greece, it happened in Rome, it happened in England, it happened in the USSR. Is the USA any different?

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

The US will be different if enough of us are unified in the demand to send them back, actually close the border, and prosecute those who deliberately imported the 3rd world.

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Rita Rippetoe's avatar

Once you define any disagreement as hate you can define anything as hate speech. And once speech is defined as equivalent to violence, actual violence becomes a permissible response to speech.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

Yes, I've got a few memes about that:

https://patrick.net/memes?date=2025-09-22#45

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Doohmax's avatar

Hey Bill. Most of these people have no idea what Charlie Kirk stood for. They are simply attack dogs. They are programmed to go off and attack at a command. They don’t have to have a reason.

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Marlin Wilkiams's avatar

Charlie Kirk wasnt down with Tranny Reading Hour at your neighborhood kindergarten, which in itself was enough to get him hated by tens of millions of people across the country.

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JohnAZ's avatar

Do we really think the shooter acted by himself because he was pissed at Charlie for criticizing his Trans partner? The real culprits will probably never be identified, again.

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Dennis luther's avatar

Pavlov

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UncleBob9's avatar

Yes, but you have to realize that someone like Kirk, who told people their obsession with race, sex, multiculturalism, et al, were not only preposterous but often sinful, was "evil" simply for making these points. How date he say such awful things about the anointed? He needs to die -- especially since he connects with people we've groomed to follow our zergling path. And so, one of the kooks assassinated him, to the joy of a good many people.

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Breck Breckenridge's avatar

Bob I don't think it was a kook. I see this, as do many others, as a professional hit job.

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Mitch's avatar

professional or "stochastic terrorism" Dial the Leftist echo chamber up to 11 for long enough and one of the crazies is sure to act.... hard to know.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

The single shot was suspiciously good, but I can't tell whether it was just yet another trantifa murder or something more.

I can see that powerful interests wanted Kirk killed, perhaps because he was a future contender for the presidency and starting to question why America gives money and weapons to Israel no matter what they do.

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Breck Breckenridge's avatar

Some of my thoughts on this train of conjecture:

1) The PTB left MLK, Jr. alone until he began to focus on Vietnam.

2) Malcolm X was getting a lot of traction and the PTB did not need anyone to draw them a picture.

3) JFK and RFK have been explained well enough for anyone of the meanest intelligence. But, well, Jack Kennedy wanted to disarm and Khruschev was listening. At least the Soviets didn't kill Nikita.

But this is all ancient history now.

4. More recently we have the MK-Ultra product (as was Sirhan), of John Hinckley, Jr. who almost killed Reagan. After that, Ol' Ronnie and Nancy got the message and he toned down his radical conservatism.

5. Then there was Mark David Chapman who silenced John Lennon. An MK-Ultra alumnus if there ever was one.

And this was just America. The PTB are not nationalistic. So, over in Europe the number of political assassinations are too numerous to mention. However, the very recent elimination of seven opposition party leaders in a few weeks in Germany is certainly curious.

The thing is, real leftist loonies are not very adroit. Your Crookses and Robinsons are just patsies. If you want to eliminate a dangerous political foe, you go to the pros, who've been at this for years, and have it down pat.

The confusion around the Kirk Assassination is typical. It was like a circus sideshow. The real killer you'll never see or know. At least without some decent detective work, and that thing does not seem to be around anymore.

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Phil Denter's avatar

Methinks Bibi doth protest too much.

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Dmarc's avatar

A tad early to go to your "blame Jews" chorus. Kirk was a HUGE Israel supporter, mentored by Dennis Prager (among others), and went on campus frequently arguing with the Hamas radical protesters. Sounds like Israel had real motives to end his life (sarcasm just in case). Anyway, keep driving a wedge into MAGA and maybe you can put a dent into the 75% that back Israel. Until this gets sorted out, and it will, just keep pouring coffee at Camp Candace and try not to push conspiracies that are contrary to Charlie's core beliefs...give him that.

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Ben's avatar

But it is always Israels fault and of course the guy who is fighting off the Muslim hordes Bibi must be Satan for not just rolling over and letting them take back land that was stolen from them in the first place.

Muslim land must always be Muslim land and Israel is a knife to the back of Islam and the "final revelation" as told by Mad Moe.

History often repeats and instead of conquest and invasion they are now trying demographic shifts and propaganda to take over the world.

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Phil Denter's avatar

You completely misunderstood me, Dmarc. I'm not "blaming Jews" and never said so.

I do, however, suspect Bibi the War Criminal. So, in fact, does Judge Andrew Napolitano.

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There seems to be this weird belief that all Jews are good and that not a single one of them can ever be suspected of wrong-doing (notwithstanding Madoff, Bankman-Fried, Epstein, Maxwell et al.).

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Lugh's avatar

Race is one of the pillars of nationality, so you're talking square triangles here. You and everyone else. "Conservatives" want a multiracial country of people who have the same culture. Not going to happen.

Last night on 60 Minutes had a piece on a tiny college in Austin devoted to the classic liberals arts, including debate of the great questions. Merit only, no diversity admissions. Virtually all White. The Blacks can't make it and the high IQ Asians aren't interested. One Hispanic girl and one Asian boy were shown.

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Alzaebo's avatar

I must say you are nailing it today - delivering a bit of the Celtic Cudgel.

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Lugh's avatar

Kipling has a fascinating essay where he states that in his experience the Scots and the Irish produce a lot of hard headed people who can speak clearly and logically about their wants, needs, and demands. Contrary to popular theory, it is the English who are misty, full of moon and moonshine. They don't know what they want or if they do, they can't or won't express it. They will act but you won't know why they did what they did or even if they know why they did what they did. Only after long acquaintance will it graducally become known.

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JohnAZ's avatar

However, today and through history, the English clobbered both Scotland and Ireland. English is the world’s common language.

Not too shabby.

One thing about parliamentarian governments, they are very inefficient until pissed off. That includes us.

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JohnAZ's avatar

Yeah, reality is a bitch.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

Conservatives need billionaires on their side willing to help fund education in the Greek and Roman classics, with the explicit goal of getting those students future jobs at high levels of government.

The English had a system like that and it was the basis for a very successful government for centuries.

The lessons of Western history should become well-known by everyone leading us, or we will continue to repeat the same mistakes forever.

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Lugh's avatar

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chatham_House_Rule

Great stuff, right? Also great for forming secret societies. A knife can be used to heal (scalpel) or kill.

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JohnAZ's avatar

Yes, Lugh, and AI is the most deadly knife ever invented. Our government is a secret society.

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Grape Soda's avatar

You speak as if the truth matters

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Matthew McWilliams's avatar

Well, that's just it, isn't it? The ideas held dear by the Left are so obviously preposterous that they cannot hold up to factual information. They can only exist in a bubble of unreality that requires constant positive feedback. That is why the Left needs these constant month-long celebrations of their stupid ideas. When every shred of empirical evidence directly contradicts your beliefs you need a lot of positive reinforcement to keep the charade going.

That is also why they hate interacting with people on the other side of the ideological divide. Merely trading letters with someone who questions their beliefs puts far too much stress on the ideological bubble they've encapsulated themselves in.

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

They fear and run from genuine debate like a vampire fears sunlight.

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Alzaebo's avatar

They need their safe space! A societal panic reaction.

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Ben's avatar

That is not just a leftist problem.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

I disagree.

Can you think of any examples of conservatives refusing to debate, or needing a "safe space"?

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Night owl's avatar

Yes, many in the MAGA crowd, for example, cannot take criticism of Trump. Point out that he still supports the clot shot and Warp Speed, or that he is calling for effectively ending free speech in some areas is Verboten.

This behavior is a reaction to cognitive dissonance.

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Ben's avatar

I was not coming at this from a left right paradigm but as a human condition.

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Dave's avatar
Sep 22Edited

Howard it is painful indeed to lose loved ones in this battle for sanity and clarity but it is beyond what you alone or any one of us can manage. Mr Kirk’s assassination has awakened a revival in our Judeo-Christian values and faith AND has shown, for those willing to see, that this is a spiritual battle above all else. Those who cannot see what a national tragedy this loss is or who have not wept over his brutal death and our collective loss are under satans influence and delusions. Period.

Good is evil right is wrong up is down chaos is order. God is sorting his people prepare accordingly, repent and seek his salvation and everlasting life through Jesus Christ who through Gods grace takes our sins upon himself in our stead.

While we are called to spread this news of the truth of Gods word or as you do with your essays the truth of what is truly happening before our very eyes we should not despair when others refuse to see what is True. Once we see this as a spiritual battle above all else the way forward becomes more understandable and less likely to drive us crazy. Which is clearly a common weapon used against the righteous in these times daily. God bless you and do not fear or despair.

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Lugh's avatar

Great Britain has recognized Palestinian statehood. Miracles do happen. The Jew, Starmer, led the charge. He's a United Nation cultist ultimately against all nations. Why recognize Palestine as he is destroying England?

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Ben's avatar

Because they are the shock troops in, yet another Marxist take over and destruction of a country and culture.

Much like South Africa they labeled SA as an evil country to destroy it and now it is the child rape capitol of the entire world.

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JohnAZ's avatar

Ha, Iran and Hamas are about to have their asses handed to them in Gaza. It is easy for the EU now to say they want a Palestinian state as they know where the displaced Muslims are going to go. Trump will not let them come here, so there’s that. BTW, whatever happened to the Muslim directive to always help their brothers?

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Ben's avatar

Not when everywhere those brothers go they engage in overthrowing governments and breaking every law of the land.

The Palestinians as a group are awful people.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

Starmer isn't Jewish, though his wife is.

And merely being Jewish doesn't prove anything. There are a lot of Jews who oppose the oppression going on in Gaza.

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Alzaebo's avatar

Because the Palestinians need a place to go, and the Mandate will be blamed for it.

PM Clement Attlee, Lydia Rothschild Starmer's co-ethnic, liberated the Sassoon opium fields as soon as he deposed the tool Churchill, and England eventually got its fair share of Pashtuns and Punjabis. Starmer is about to repeat that little stunt. Perhaps we could call it Windrush III.

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Lugh's avatar

Yes, he asked questions, questions that can only be answered by Fascism. The Communists aren't going to back down after all. They must be backed down, they and the Capitalists who fund them and have from the beginning.

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Tommy L Hoffman's avatar

THEY CONSIDER YOU COUNTER REVOLUTIONARIES

THE ENEMY

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Dennis luther's avatar

Fascists "like" Charlie Kirk?

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Phil Denter's avatar

Whoosh!

Trump is bankrolling a genocide right now, Einstein.

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Susan Ness's avatar

What genocide is that? Blowing up drug smugglers in the Atlantic? If God is just, he will be receiving the Nobel Peace Prize for which he's been nominated.

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Phil Denter's avatar

Gaza. Please pay attention.

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We're told that Trump opposes the WEF but, a couple of months ago, he partnered with BlackRock CEO and WEF Co-chair Larry Fink.

Think about it, Susan. He's in on it.

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Posse Comitatus is the law of the land for a reason. Do not be deceived.

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Trump's WEF mandates are to smash Greenland, Canada and the USA into the Club of Rome's New World Order Region 1 - North American Union (NAU), instigate then manage the bankruptcy of US Inc. and its phoney-bologna US$ and facilitate the transition from the prosperous corporatocracy that we knew (and loved) to their new thousand-times-worse-than-Orwellian technocracy.

Trump brokering and providing Larry Ellison, Sam Altman & Peter Thiel with a half a TRILLION[!] of Rothchilds' fiat duckets falls into that last mandate. Ellison & Thiel are developing our Super-AI (the biblical Beast System) to, among other things, custom build, in 48 hours, an mRNA jab to "cure" you of cancer(s) that you don't even have!

I shit you not.

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Nobel Peace Prize. 🤣

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Breck Breckenridge's avatar

Outstanding Phil! Simply outstanding.

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Susan Ness's avatar

Oh dear. You got any reputable sources to back that up?

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Night owl's avatar

He does go too far, but several uncomfortable facts are that Trump has Palantir an various technocrats in the White House (Thiel, Musk, Altman, etc.); he's still pushing Warp Speed and the clot shots; and he is pushing for marking out unreasonable zones where free speech no longer applies.

None of this betters America or preserves the freedoms we have left. In fact, several of these items are Great Reset agenda points.

So why is he doing these things?

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Breck Breckenridge's avatar

Susan, come on! Do your own homework.

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Ben's avatar

Nope you are just to take him at his liars word.

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Phil Denter's avatar

Yep. Decades of intense research. [I started in 1981.]

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Note: TPTB own all "reputable sources." They could not march us (all docile-like) into their Beast System any other way.

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Alzaebo's avatar

Drug smuggler boat? Couldn't hold the fuel to make it very far, it was probably some poor fisherman. Ordered by some ambitious lower officer as the fall guy.

FARC cocaine is no longer the problem, hasn't been since China built two billion dollar meth precursor plants in Baja. Since Bolton sanctioned Venezuela's oil, it's a certainty that Maduro is resorting to drug sales and crime for funding, but I don't see them as major players.

What it is, is an excuse to grab the Orinoco oil which American refineries are built to handle...Iraq War II coming to the Western Hemisphere.

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Susan Ness's avatar

Why should he intervene? Even their co-religionists won't take in that bunch.

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Night owl's avatar

He has intervened. Without US backing, Israel could never destroy Gaza. They don't have the manpower or resources, and they would be stopped by other regional powers.

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Breck Breckenridge's avatar

That "bunch" is women and children caught in a horrible hell. It's not only the Palestinian leadership.

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Alzaebo's avatar

If Israel can use them as a weapon to destabilize the neighbors, why shouldn't the neighbors use them to destabilize Israel?

In seeking lebensraum, what Israel is getting is an Islamic NATO under its own nuclear umbrella, provided by Pakistan.

Saudi and Pakistan have just announced a mutual agreement, Egypt and Turkey have too.

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Lugh's avatar

The Loch Ness monster weighs in.

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Ben's avatar
Sep 23Edited

More propaganda from the dim bulb.

One does not drop leaflets upon a group of people they want to murder just before bombing another series of tunnels aka conduits for terrorism and war.

One simply bombs the shit out of trash one wants to take out.

A country does not feed its enemies, provide water, medical, waste management, power and on and on as Israel has and still does it is at war with an enemy who will say and do anything to kill a jew.

That enemy is Hamas, Hezbollah and specifically Iran.

You know the enemies that actually do target civilians on purpose and don't bother to attempt to allow their enemy to get out of the way that include women and children.

They even use idiots such as yourself as a weapon granted your reach is a thousand people and you engage in all sorts of stupid nonsense and conspiracy bullshit.

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Carol's avatar

By always ending your rebuttals with "Einstein" is of course meaning "Stupid". And that's a very weak argument.

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Phil Denter's avatar

1) I don't ALWAYS end my rebuttals with "Einstein." Actually, far from it.

2) Calling someone who is stupid, "Einstein" is never my argument. It is merely the cherry on top after my real argument has clearly prevailed.

3) Thank you for your generous feedback. It is much appreciated.

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James Howard Kunstler's avatar

Phil — I don’t like your paranoid point of view or your style or your smug attitude, which reflect poorly on this blog. Just so you know.

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E. Grogan's avatar

Thank you!

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JohnAZ's avatar

BTW, Jim, I almost never agree with Phil, as you all know.

BUT, he is right on one thing. Trump has a grand vision of the creation of an economic bloc under one roof in North America, from Panama to Greenland and coast to coast. I believe he sees BRICS+ creation and growth as a threat and wants a legitimate economic situation to offset Sino-Russia.

I also feel that he sees what is going on in the Arctic, both the race for resources and the trade shortcut. Again, he is observing what China and Russia are doing with the Siberian short cut over Russia. I think he wants the Northwest Passage to be built and soon. The estimated difference between Atlantic to Pacific routes is about 500 miles by sea. Sea is cheapest.

I know Phil hates the threatened “take over” of Canada, he prizes his sovereignty. I think co-operation will be the result, the talk about the 51st state is BS. Trump will work to make the patriotism of the NAU to be directed at the common causes, and that includes Greenland as the Eastern gateway to the NW Passage. NAFTA and USMCA were doomed because there really was no feeling of We from Canada or Mexico, they wanted what they could get out of the deal. King of the Mountain syndrome.

Keep an eye on Alberta, it is Carney’s weak link.

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Phil Denter's avatar

Thank you for the "heads up," Jim. I will try to do better.

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Ben's avatar

Or just succeeded in making yourself look like the ass you really are.

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E. Grogan's avatar

I couldn't agree more! I've watched my husband's identical twin brother do the same thing that James's relative did to him. My husband has over 50 yrs as a virologist/immunologist, worked in Public Health Dept of PA for many years advising public/doctors/govt on how to manage disease, illness, outbreaks of disease etc. He also used to help make jabs back in 1970s until he found out there were SV-40 (cancer) cells in them. 5 yrs ago when covid first came out, my husband tried to tell his twin not to get jabbed, those jabs were NOT good for you. His twin's response was to get angry and say "This conversation is over", then hang up. Later on he was so sick he couldn't get out of bed. You'd think that he would have listened to my husband with his background of science. It's been painful for my husband and for me. The rest of my husband's twin turned all of the family and friends against my husband. I've seen numerous people on line with the exact same story and now they have no relatives or friends who will talk to them. This is happening way too much and I've lost all respect for people who so thoughtlessly and hatefully turn away from family/friends and cause deep hurt and pain for those who have been rejected by the haters. I have no idea what to do about this but it does seem to be permanent once it happens. Very, very sad. My heart hurts for those who have been through this.

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Mary G.'s avatar

I’m so sorry for your losses!!! Our daughter disowned us 6 years ago, (and her husband has not said a peep), removing our just about to turn 5 years old grandsons from our presence forever. Keep in mind we watched them the 1st 4 years of their lives. (I quit my job when they were born prematurely.) Family has been split over this ever since. It’s the latest heartbreak in the this “brave new world” we live in.

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E. Grogan's avatar

Thank you, Mary. I, too, am so sorry at the loss of your grandsons, that is horrifying that a son or daughter would do that to their parents. I'm 70 y.o., was never fortunate enough to have children but I've known numerous grandparents whose grandkids are the absolute center of their lives. They are such a blessing and it's so sad your daughter did this. Even if at some point she relents and lets you see them, there will always be that huge scar of emotional pain for you. One day she may well regret doing this. My heart goes out to you, Mary, prayers for you and your grandsons, who have also suffered great loss at not being able to see his grandmother. Surrounding you both with lots of love!❤️❤️❤️

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Ben's avatar
Sep 23Edited

Same story my dad's "wife" decided we were crazy for not taking the clot shots and when my pregnant daughter decided not to take it, the crazy lady told him they would not drive down to visit her.

My wife and I each took one shot to avoid being fired not because we believed in the shots.

She then changed my dads number around somehow so that her assistant had the number and told her not to take the calls or answer the message.

I used a work phone to call him only to get her and figured out the rest.

I then drove all the way to Malibu to talk to him from San Diego.

This is elder abuse as he is almost 80 now and not very techie.

He now only calls me when she is not around but still won't have anything to do with his granddaughter and Great grand daughter.

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E. Grogan's avatar

Good heavens, Ben, this is horrifying! This woman sounds like a real horror show. She sounds truly evil. So very sorry you don't have much access to your dad. Right now, I want to smack her - and I rarely have that feeling but I can feel this woman's evilness right through my keyboard! Good for your pregnant daughter she didn't get jabbed!! When I was a little kid back in 1950s/early 1960s it was know then that jabbing any child under age 6 would cause problems with the brain. I was jabbed at age 5 unfortunately, which was quite rare then, and I soon developed autism but a fairly mild case. This was known but in late 80s or so jabs began to be given to kids under age 6 and that's when autism went up. NO pregnant woman should ever be jabbed!!!!! The baby in utero can't handle it. Your daughter sounds like a very smart lady, as does you and your wife. Best of luck to you and I hope this woman evaporates herself soon and things turn around for the better for you and your dad.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

Ah, aren't some women just fantastic. Good lord. She needs to be knocked on her ass a few times.

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JohnAZ's avatar

I wonder? Why is this split happening everywhere? Used to be that politics were sorta ignored in relationships. Why is it so critical now?

Maybe look back to the 1830 to 1860 time period. The political spectrum widened then too, over slavery. Even the state’s right issues were about slavery. It took genocide from the North to settle the issue.

IMO, today it is income inequality as the job market deteriorates. All the rest is BS. The rise of socialism is a result of the growth of the welfare state. So we have the socialists against the pseudo-capitalists for the soul of America. Socialists = Cities, PCs= everywhere else. The split is about 50/50, a real danger sign. The wide split puts the belief system deep into the ego, so the threatened egos move to hate. Association with opposing egos is anxiety causing, hence the separation. A sign of the Times.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

The reason it becomes permanent is not the fault of the person ostracized, who is just sad at being rebuffed and usually willing to talk and be friendly once again.

It's because the ostracizer knows that he or she has deliberately done something very cruel.

At that point, it becomes psychologially easier for the ostracizer to keep ignoring the victim rather than face the truth of how cruel he or she has been. But it eats at the ostracizer as well.

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E. Grogan's avatar

Very good summary, thank you!

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Kitsune, Maskless Crusader.'s avatar

Well stated.

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Don Reed's avatar

09/23/25: "Frankly, what stung most keenly was the accusation that my language fell 'into all the clichés of the far right ideologies. . . .'

Good God, what rot. James is one of the most original writers I've ever read, and I've been reading serious stuff since about 1960.

Further, I violently hate clichés and detest writers who cannot resist using them (and using them and using them and...).

Mr. Kunstler no doubt shares my loathing of the dead tripe "on the one hand... and on the other hand" hacks.

What a waste of time it was to converse with that relative.

(I'd DEMAND biological proof before I'd admit that I was related to him/her.)

But at least, Jim, having taking the trouble to do that, in turn, you get a clean bill of health from readers like Bill Rice and myself, and healthy and refreshing feedback about the issue.

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Greg McKinney's avatar

“That being said…”

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Don Reed's avatar

09/23/25: "A number of... the fact that... not only... but also..." "Of-itis" ("a series of... a group of...") ... pointless counting ("two men, Joe and Sam") ... irrelevant comparisons... the list goes on out to the orbit of Pluto and beyond.

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Sue Don Nim's avatar

Isn't "clean bill of health" a cliche, Don.

:-)

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Don Reed's avatar

09/23/25: By God it is. The firing squad comes for me (quick, through the bathroom window seen in The Sting! "Ánadale! Ánadale!")

And now, you, as the canary in the cliche coal mine, must inhale, fall over and ... well, perish? Nah (too severe a fate for getting the drop on a know-it-all).

Laughing gas in the dentist's chair is an acceptable compromise, no?

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Don Reed's avatar

09/24/25: And hat's off to your pseudonymous ID!

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Charting The Fourth Turning's avatar

Brevity and clarity of that sort are rare. Great comment @grapesoda!

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Well met!

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K2's avatar

Like!

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VeryVer's avatar

Good Morning, James! Yes, there's nothing more startling than seeing the cheerful old Vermont hippies, with their CoExist stickers adorning their Priuses, getting together for a Community Trash Pick Up day, walking their Labradors and taking grinning selfies of each other wearing "is he dead yet?" and "8647" T-shirts. The same ghouls who flip you off for driving too fast, or too slow, or for not bringing a reusable bag to the Co-op. I moved from Vermont to Texas because of these beastly people.

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

I moved from Santa Fe NM to Idaho. Never in a million years did I think I'd be a political refugee in my own country. (Loving Idaho!)

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spingerah's avatar

Haven't spent much time in NM

Looking at the map it appears to be a huge Indian reservation.

I've been on every rez from the Missouri River west & Oklahoma north at one time or another

Disfunction & alcoholism go hand in hand. Just as derangement & democrat do as well

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

The Indians are sane compared to the gringos! Santa Fe is so mired in political dysfunction that that is their entire reality. An eg: I was at a Sunday meditation retreat at Upaya, a world renowned center. Joan Halifax, the head Buddha or whatever, sweeps into the room welcoming everyone with anti-Trump jokes and comments. Seriously???? At a Buddhist meditation retreat? Many more similar stories, some a bit violent (towards me). I love SF but I hate the atmosphere. It is unlivable for anyone vaguely sane.

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Navigator18's avatar

Santa Fe...a bunch of fabulously wealthy people LARPING as Buddhists and Native Americans, selling phony spirituality. It's like a mini-Boulder with less homeless people. Puke.

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Original Grandpa's avatar

sounds like BozeAngeles...

Some folks think that area is where "Yellowstone" was filmed, which makes those of us who live where it really was filmed, quite happy... we don't want "them" here.

We do hear the Dakotas are nice...

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Lugh's avatar

In the show, the "strong" White ranchers are guilt tripped into giving their land to the Indians.

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spingerah's avatar

I actually do feel more comfortable around even drunks than nut ball leftist whites.

Their smugness gives me ulcers🤮

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Letsrock's avatar

FYI Yuppies and Buddhism are complete oxymorons. They are completely unable to integrate. Same thing in Vermont. In fact true Buddhism is unobtainable to most Westerners.

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spingerah's avatar

I had to laugh as I can just imagine.

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Lugh's avatar

Thank you for saying Indians. Whites are the Native Americans. We conquered and dispossessed them to create this nation. It couldn't have been otherwise.

The Dalai Lama himself has said Europe belongs to Whites and everyone else should leave.

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messianicdruid's avatar

If this nation is all but the reservations, why are we in hock.

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Lugh's avatar

Will Whites even get their own reservations? Not if the Left or the Globalists have their way.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

I used to work at Trulia. At one meeting of like 100 people, the group lead Jeff McConathy referred to Trump as "president shit-for-brains".

I was pretty shocked, but then, it is in San Francisco.

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Glitterpuppy's avatar

Beautiful to visit… that’s about it.

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Greg McKinney's avatar

NM is becoming a hub of darkness. Our families have been there since 1959 and I had to move to LA County to escape the place! That bad indeed.

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

Hub of darkness is a very apt description

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JDK's avatar

Hi Pat. You left out the short stint in N AZ. : )

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

It was a characterless blurb in the overall adventure! JDK?

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JDK's avatar

From the Zipp campaign.

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

Not a great experience for me. Actually, a pretty bad one. But that's ok. I learned a lot. Not the least of which is politics is not for me! I so appreciate the peace and civility of ID so far. I've made a ton of acquaintances, perhaps a few friends. Two terrific photo clubs. I'm taking October off from podcast recording (not publishing) to have some ID adventures. Stay tuned!

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rd3's avatar

My brother was transferred to Burlington several years ago, and the first time he mowed his lawn, with a gas lawnmower, you would have thought he was committing war crimes. Every douche-lefty in the neighborhood, which was basically the whole neighborhood, came over to berate him for not having an electric lawnmower.

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Ben's avatar

I would have run out and bought a riding lawnmower just to really piss them off.

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rd3's avatar

At the end, my brother bought a side-by-side and would pull it up on his lawn and drink Busch tallboys with his shirt off just to really piss them off. He had a confederate flag in his garage that really blew their minds.

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Marlin Wilkiams's avatar

The only thing that would make that story even better -- and it's good as is -- is if drove his lawn tractor, shirtless, to the local gas station, and bought those icy cold tallboys there, drinking one on his way home.

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E. Grogan's avatar

LOVE the confederate flag - great touch! I like your brother's style!

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Find an old lawnboy two stroke!

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Number 6's avatar

Make it an enormous diesel for good measure.

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Greg McKinney's avatar

Diesel!!

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Jerri Hinojosa's avatar

We bought a country home in Texas where we expected a “live and let live” attitude might prevail. It only took one self-proclaimed progressive to instill fear and incite swarms of neighbors to attack every time anyone cut down a tree (if it was alive, “tree killer!!!”? If it was dead “how do you know it isn’t spreading disease?”), carried out a prescribed burn with a permit, notice posted and day-of approval from the fire department(The wind!! The toxins!! I lived through a wildfire!!!) or, oh the horror, if any neighbor killed a snake. They don’t have to be a majority in a blue state to make themselves a cancer on a community. With much sadness we left in just over a year. Life is too short.

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Giuseppe Corvo's avatar

As I told a friend from Sweden once, Texas is a huge place with all sorts of subcultures.....if you bought someplace that's full of transplanted California folks, I could see the issue...when I first moved to Austin in 1980 it was a sane place where people mostly just got along.....now not so much. And the demographic changes are not just in urban areas now as many people took advantage of the price differentials of selling on the west coast and buying in the Texas hill country.....now even rural Tennessee is getting overrun.

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VeryVer's avatar

oh that's too bad! They are a terrible scourge. I'm looking to buy a house now and I'm trying hard to find a place not infested with Democrats. Of course they've taken over all the "pretty" parts of Texas already. But I see the lefties are selling out their Texas homes left and right now, going back to Cali I think -- you can tell because the "progressive" home owners are incapable of controlling their landscaping in any way, shape or form. Every fallen branch is some kind of cherished "habitat" and cannot be moved. The electric lawnmower has broken, and the children's plastic "gender unicorn" playhouse they got off Front Porch Forum has fallen over and no one can set it upright again. They refuse to ever buy a shovel or rake, and they lawn is covered with pathetic attempts to grow organic tomatoes in "grow bags." And a Tesla in the driveway, of course. lol.

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John P. Wallis's avatar

#FUCKdem

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Blue eyed squint's avatar

Old Vermonters say of Burlington, “It is nice because it is so close to Vermont.” That was 40 years ago when I lived there and Bernie was mayor.

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Jerri Hinojosa's avatar

My brother in law used to say that about Miami-what he liked most about it was that it was so darned close to the United States.

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Kathy Christian's avatar

I was born there 69 years ago.

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rd3's avatar

My brother lasted about two years there, but couldn't stand it anymore. He moved to Alabama to be with his kind of people.

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Ron Anselmo's avatar

Sweet Home...

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Browning1911 Man's avatar

You forgot to mention the Vermont lefties are all living on multi-million dollar trust funds their capitalist parents from NYC left them.

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VeryVer's avatar

yep. trust babies. bought up the old farms for nothing and just sit in them and let them dilapidate, since they are incapable of ever lifting a finger to do maintenance. And the people who aren't hippies, half of them are smuggling drugs or guns to/from Canada. So basically, nobody works.

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Blue eyed squint's avatar

Vermont old hippies are insufferable and none seem to see that Bernie has been bought and paid for. Just bought a MAGA hat at the Tunbridge (VT) World’s Fair last week from a booth operated by an older Vietnamese couple. America the beautiful.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

Lol, I've talked to Vietnamese who are more MAGA than the white MAGA crowd.

One old guy at an anti-mandate protest in San Jose said he was held as a prisoner by the communists in Vietnam for 10 years before making it to the US.

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Media Luna's avatar

Why do I still live in VT?🤦🏼‍♀️

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Deb's avatar

My sister who's lived in Vermont for 40 years calls me a Trumper. I pointed out that I didn't even vote for Trump, which should be a basic requirement for being a Trumper, shouldn't it? I just don't vote for the Dems anymore, and that's enough for her to slander me with what is to her the lowest slur, Trumper.

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John P. Wallis's avatar

I can only imagine that you loathe your sister.

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nancylee's avatar

because texas is out of water and there is going to be a huge exodus when people fill pools, flush toilets, turn on the tap ---- and nothing comes out. make vermont the place you want to live.

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Ben's avatar

There is plenty of water it just has salt in it.

Desalinization plants are needed stat.

Pipelines from the massive great lakes as well.

Toilet to tap however is a no go!

They used recycled water during the Clinton regime on the Whitehouse lawns and when the Obamas decided to grow an organic garden they could not get it certified for all the heavy metals and toxic crap that got sprayed on them.

The biggest loser shows still had contestants pick and eat from that garden on the show.

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Demeter's avatar

We cannot drain water out of the Great Lakes. They will cease to exist if we let them. It's a closed system of local recycling, no infinite source of fresh water to refill them.

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Ben's avatar

Are you trying to tell me it does not rain/snow and there is zero watershed runoff?

If you want to get technical the entire earth is a closed system.

There are massive amounts of water shed around all the lakes.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/1drgrga/water_shed_map_of_the_great_lakes/#lightbox

https://www.currentresults.com/Weather/Michigan/average-yearly-precipitation.php

On average Michigan gets around 30-38 inches of rain and an average of 122-166 days of rainfall.

Nice try however please explain your answer maybe I missing something.

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Lugh's avatar

There's too many people, Ben. If we have to blast the very hills and drain the lakes to support them, isn't that proof?

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Demeter's avatar

I'm saying that there are fluctuations in average water level DUE TO fluctuations in the Weather and the local water usage, showing that there's no extra water to shift off to anywhere.

Consider the history of the Aral Sea:

The most famous disappearing lake in Russia and the former Soviet Union is the Aral Sea, which has shrunk dramatically due to the diversion of its feeder rivers for cotton irrigation since the 1950s. While not entirely in Russia, the Aral Sea was the fourth-largest lake globally and is now largely a desert, though efforts have helped restore the northern part. Another example is Lake Karachay, a smaller lake in the southern Urals that was used as a nuclear waste dump and is now completely filled in and considered a radioactive waste site.

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JohnAZ's avatar

Okay, try this.

Build dams off of the Mississippi and its drainage. They are left drained until flooding happens in the east or Midwest.

Then:

Pump the excess water from these flood control dams west to Colorado and Utah to fill the reservoirs there on the Colorado river and keep them at capacity, Then Lakes Powell and Mead can be topped off by releases from the mountain reservoirs. The water flow can be managed by need in the west and flooding in the east.

??????

BTW, de-salinization is not free. It is expensive but the biggest problem is where do you put the salt? Putting it into the ocean changes the salinity of the water, destroying biomes and maybe even changing current patterns by causing the water to sink.

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rd3's avatar

Why would you pipe water from the Great Lakes to Texas, when you could just live near the Great Lakes?

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Juliana Thompson's avatar

Winter and cost of heating for 1/2 of the year.

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rd3's avatar

There's plenty of wood

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Earl's avatar

Rough weather in the winter?

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rd3's avatar

Toughen up.

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ConradB_TX's avatar

It rained all night in North Texas last night - our lakes are full. Just sayin’…

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Media Luna's avatar

I hear you, and as a matter of fact, the availability of water is actually one of the factors I consider when I think of alternative places to live.

A short trip around New Mexico, some years ago, was a stark illustration of how access to water can be so difficult.

I live a block away from a river and I have imagined myself, in the worst scenario, going down with a bucket to bring water to my home.

Moving anywhere to the south west is nothing I can consider for other practical reasons anyway.

In addition, I wonder if moving elsewhere would really contribute to solving the problem of how to to create bridges and start having conversations again; how to “heal the divide”.

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E. Grogan's avatar

I left California years ago and now live in Mississippi - 94% voted Republican in 2020 election and my county votes 97% Republican. People here are the best, very friendly and caring about their neighbors. They also love to laugh. Cost of living is very low, too. Also, lots of beautiful green woods here. My mom grew up in Mississippi and sent me to Ole Miss for college, so I have some roots here, too. And there's lots of water, it rains year-round.

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Lugh's avatar

Blue side of the mountain?

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Media Luna's avatar

Where in Mississippi do you live?

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Giuseppe Corvo's avatar

Shhhhh.......don't let the secret out.....have you read Dispatches from Pluto??

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E. Grogan's avatar

Dispatches from Pluto sounds like some good reading, thanks for recommendation!

I don't normally "let the secret out" in fact never have told anyone online before where I live, but the people commenting here seem to be good folks who would fit in just fine here - also few folks ever think of moving to Mississippi which has historically been at the bottom of every kind of list pretty much all my life and I'm an old lady.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

The southwest, ie Phoenix and Las Vegas, are cities that should not exist where they do. They subsist almost entirely off of Colorado River water. Colorado River water comes mainly from Wyoming, Utah, Colorado and New Mexico. Phoenix, Vegas, Tucson are in a world of hurt of a war over water erupts and the upper water shed states cut off the water supply to these areas.

Like I said, Phoenix and Vegas are cities that should not exist in the geographic location they exist.

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Alzaebo's avatar

I have a water tank rather than using my old well, and thank gosh a canal is one edge of my little property. (I use buckets, and yes they're heavy.) When I was young in Nevada, the book Dune was practically the bible of the desert miners, so I have always practiced a bit of Fremen water discipline.

Your last question is certainly a great one - we're encouraged to flee, and flee again, but how does that heal the divide? The magic dirt seems to move with us.

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nancylee's avatar

I spent many years running further and further away. there’s nowhere to hide anymore (IMO) time to turn and face it down.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

What?

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VeryVer's avatar

It's beautiful. I do miss my garden.

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margaret calhoun hemenway's avatar

A good friend moved from blue state Connecticut to Texas and loves it there. An older sister who has hated Trump since 2016, asked for a truce, to avoid political friction, which I honored. But then she'd break the truce, make a dig against Trump and I would feel compelled to respond. This happened several times, until she finally broke off all contact with a flippant, "have a nice life." This childish behavior appears to be common among Trump haters. Many friends have lost lifelong contacts, people easily "triggered" by Trump. It truly seems to be mass psychosis formation.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

Resulting in a an epidemic of very lonely, isolated elderly people. So sad that siblings, parents and children will cut off contact with their family members.

I think people just have too much time on their hands to obsess over this bullshit. If people had to work harder for their meals and their shelter they'd be far less inclined to worry about one's political persuasions. IMO.

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margaret calhoun hemenway's avatar

You're right about that! I've also noticed many Trump haters are single women or divorced. They've shifted dissatisfaction with men in their lives, often ex-husbands or boyfriends, onto Trump's back. He seems to be a manifestation of what they hate about men in their lives. I believe psychiatrists call this "transference." If you ask what Trump's policies they dislike, they'd be hard pressed to answer. Voting for president is not a beauty or popularity contest-- it's about whether you agree with a candidate's platform. If only we could make the TDS-afflicted discard emotion for rational thought.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

Donald Trump is an alpha male and he demonstrates alpha male qualities and characteristics. I think women who have a chip on their shoulder against REAL men naturally project that hatred onto Mr. Trump. BETA males hate him too because he is an alpha and they will never get to that status. Beta males are too busy being cuckolded by their wives, IF, they are still married.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

Yes, the left is now just a fragile coalition of people who are deeply embarrassed about their own perceived failings.

This is why you'll never get a clear answer about Trump's policies. They don't care about his policies. They care that he makes them feel ugly by having a beautiful wife, for example.

It's hard to hear what isn't said, but it's always the most important point by far.

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Giuseppe Corvo's avatar

You may have a point.....what I see personally are individuals who used to be happy and creative now consumed by hatred that has destroyed their humanity (and it's not limited to Trump hatred either). The best description I've recently read relates to having to dehumanize the target of their anger and in the process dehumanizing themselves.....once a person loses compassion for other humans all is lost.

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Ted's avatar

Hold on, cankerpuss, as some of us see it, we will soon finally be having our Tower of Babel moment, when people will again have to work hard and cooperate just to survive, because the great hyperconnected, hyper complexified secular utopia will collapse in a heap.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

"I hate Trump, so YOU have to hate him too, or I'll never speak to you again!"

That is the entirety of their reasoning. I try to talk about how outsourcing to China and insourcing illegals, both to boost profits for shareholders at the expense of the US working class, were really the fundamental causes behind Trump's rise, but they lose interest before I can even finish the first sentence, because I'm not on board with their blind hate.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Yeah same. 15 years ago I escaped from upstate ny. Just in time to watch blm beat up my friends in restaurants for being white, from Florida.

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Andrea Winship's avatar

Perfect. Laughing hard!

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Letsrock's avatar

I left after 30 yrs also.

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Hank Rearden's avatar

You're far from alone. My family quite literally disowned my wife and I for not buying into the Covid mania. No masks no social isolation and definitely no vax. We became pariahs and they haven't spoken to us in years.

The fact we're not vehemently anti-Trump (to be fair, we're not nearly as MAGA as some of his supporters) didn't help.

The willful blindness of some people is astonishing, and the extent to which they'll choose to oppress others defies all reason. After all, reason is a concept they are not willing to entertain.

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Night owl's avatar

Yes, I have seen this sort of thing often. The most disturbing part about Convid was that if you take the example of your family further, you would have to ask yourself what they would have done if Convid had truly succeeded to the extent that the Davos/Bankster crowd wanted.

Would they have let you get shut out of society? Carted off to a camp? Some think this is an overstatement, but in France and Germany, folks like us were not allowed into stores, Christmas markets, just about anything. Convid protests were outlawed. In France, they had bouncers keeping the "unvaccinated" out of a Carrefour. No food or voice for the critical thinkers.

Would your family have let you get carted off? I find it easier to live with losing friends or family when I remember this. Convid was eye-opening for even the most cynical critical thinkers, I think.

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Tardigrade's avatar

'Convid was eye-opening for even the most cynical critical thinkers, I think.'

The Covid debacle is what turned me around completely. That happened to a lot of people.

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Impatient's avatar

I had already moved quite a ways from left to right by the time the scamdemic came along. I simply could not believe how many people were unwilling or unable to question such an obvious load of bullshit. I am in Albuquerque and people here tend to have the intellect of inanimate objects. I looked around, literally and figuratively, and realized I had to reassess everything I ever believed. We have been lied to about more than most people want to know.

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GabeReal's avatar

You didn’t move left-right, the goal posts changed and definitions were flipped.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

Same here, exactly. Wife's relatives are in ABQ and it was very distressing to see how completely captured they were by the obvious bullshit. Three are dead now, and I'm pretty sure it was from the mRNA they took without thinking.

Massive natural selection is going on. Or is it unnatural selection?

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Impatient's avatar

I work as a subcontractor for the city. At last count there are 7 people who have died, staff, volunteers and one spouse. It is a horror show. Multiple people have had injuries from the shots: a 30 y.o. had a stroke, another 30 y.o. had major neurological issues - this last told me it was after the Moronic booster. Everyone else seems oblivious to the connection. I could go on and on: cognitive issues, personality changes, mental health issues, hearing loss. People self euthanizing, culling themselves. There are no words...

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Hank Rearden's avatar

My father succumbed to the "vax". Fell ill almost immediately after the booster no one was supposed to need. Three days later and he was dead.

Several coworkers died suddenly within a couple years of getting jabbed. All of them were fairly young, 30s, 40s, and most of them were athletic. No cause of death known. Just... died.

To this day many of my jabbed coworkers are out sick. A few died of cancers that spread rapidly. Some have been diagnosed with rare conditions requiring lifetime medication. One of them just had his fifth heart attack. Five heart attacks, and he just turned 50.

When things hit close to home it gets personal.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

Yes, first clue was when a healthy young co-worker of my wife got the jab and dropped dead shortly thereafter:

https://www.altamesafuneralhome.com/obituary/danielle-carmichael

Then father-in-law got tachycardia, then a friend's wife got myocarditis, and the son of a friend got leukemia. All in rapid succession after they got the jabs. In addition to the ABQ deaths. Never saw anything like that rate of sudden serious illness before in my life.

The good news is that it seems to have slowed back down to normal rates lately.

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Tony Lauria's avatar

The whole thing, every aspect of it, was an IQ test.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Look at what those cucks in Australia did to their own people.

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Hank Rearden's avatar

When things became so horrible here in the US, I thought if becomes unbearable perhaps we could just escape to Australia. LOL~!

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Cankerpuss's avatar

Lived in Australia for a few years. No, it is not any better than the US of A. It's about sixes.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

Sixes?

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Cankerpuss's avatar

Another way for saying things are equal, that there is no difference.

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Hank Rearden's avatar

I have no doubt they would have had me carted off to a camp, or maybe just put down like a rabid animal. For the greater good, of course.

In fact I used to wonder how the 1940s era concentration camp guards we have grown to think of as some kind of cartoonish evil characters could have become so brainwashed; so misguided. Now I know. They are my family (used to be, anyway).

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Jerri Hinojosa's avatar

Whole books and college courses have been devoted to understanding how “regular Germans” allowed the Holocaust to happen right under their noses. It was astonishing and terrifying to watch it unfold in our own families, communities and country. As it happened over more than a decade in Germany, it spread all over the globe in about one year with COVID Madness, and the “regulars” weren’t just looking the other way. They urged the powers that be to enforce their mesmerized, terrified wills against their own friends and family.

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Alzaebo's avatar

Millions of bodies just disappeared, using Bond-villianesque super-science!

How could men go home to read by the light of their skin lampshades, happily tousling their daughter's little blonde curls, after throwing babies alive into roaring furnaces with maniacal laughter!!

Vast killing machines of intricate design, built in total secrecy, all records erased, the arcane machinery itself dismantled! Vaporized as thoroughly as the millions and millions of victims!!!

Do what I did. Being of the blood, I fervently believed my entire life, wishing for a better world, unable to imagine how white people's intelligence and kindness could become the ultimate evil.

Then I asked myself, "Well, how did they do it?", so I read the actual claims.

Should be easy to prove, right? Should be the easiest thing in the world. The Most Documented Event In History, as they called it, should have fucking mountains of evidence left behind.

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Lugh's avatar

Regular Americans guarded the dying German POWs. They were just Huns. No fraternization was allowed between the occupying Americans and the Hunnish people. Meanwhile in Japan, fraternization was encouraged.

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Lugh's avatar

Read about Eisenhower's death camps. Hundreds of thousands of German POWs died in them. They were just barbed wire enclosures with sniper towers. They died of exposure or from disease in their weakened condition. The monster called them something else to get around the Geneva Convention. He was just follower orders, no doubt from his master, Bernard Baruch.

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Alzaebo's avatar

Those "1940s era concentration camp guards", our Founding Myth, is the poisoned root that needs to die.

So tell me, what did they do? What did those concentration camp guards do?

Stop making insinuations and tell me. I want specifics. Who, what, how.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

My grandmother's cousin, a Polish Catholic and mayor of his small town, was shipped off to Dachau where he became extremely sick because of the conditions. They waited until he was almost dead, then released him and he died the next day. So to that degree, I'm 100% sure that deliberately bad things happened in the camps.

Polish relatives also told me that when the Nazis came into town, they immediately shot a member of the family who was retarded. No reason but "eugenics".

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Ben's avatar
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It didn't take critical thinking when they allowed bars and big box stores to stay open.

Or when After not falling prey to the hysteria it got to the point your employer said get it or else.

I never even had the sniffles for almost three years and suddenly after the one shot I finally get "covid".

The little test said and then got sick four or five times in a short period of time.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

The moment they told us it was safe to enter Walmart, Home Depot or Amazon warehouses but dangerous to enter churches, restaurants and health clubs I knew it was a blatant fraud foisted upon the people for political reasons. I still think I am suffering a little PTSD from it all. Not because of the fraud, but because so many "freedom" loving Americans bent over backwards to believe the lies. I still can't wrap my brain around it. The absurdity of it all and so many millions swallowed the lie like a big lump of tasty chocolate cake. Stunning. Absolutely stunning.

I've never tested for covid. I never will. I never took their concoction. I never will. They can go fuck themselves. I refuse to be told how to think or what to do. Especially by filthy, corrupt fuckers like them.

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Hank Rearden's avatar

I know I'm suffering PTSD over it. I still can't get over how so many people succumbed to (what was for me) such obvious, over the top gaslighting. How did so many allegedly intelligent people become so deceived? I'll never look upon my fellow human beings the same way.

For me, I never got any vaccine of any kind, ever. Not a flu shot, nothing. Not since whatever we needed to attend grade school (measles, mumps, rubella as I recall). I have never been sick in my entire adult life. Not one day of work missed due to illness. Luck perhaps, who knows, I have never been particularly health-obsessed. Yet my employer of 20 years was about to fire me for not taking the shot. They backed down. Best thing I never did.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

I stopped getting the annual flu shot they push at us because of the covid vaccine lies. Guess what. I haven't been sick. At all. People all around me hacking and gacking and I just keep on pushing along.

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Fight the Good Fight's avatar

Exactly my story. Used to get the flu vaccine because I worked with the public. Always got sick from it. Every time. Never have been sick since I ceased all jabs.

By the way, it is interesting to observe that we still need to talk about the Scamdemic amongst ourselves. PTSD therapy?

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JohnAZ's avatar

MRNA is very different from the flu shot.

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JohnAZ's avatar

At the time, early 2020, there was no data one way or the other about mRNA. The Pharma hid the data from the 42000 test run. You were smart to not get the shot, but why? You had nothing except gut feel to base your decision on. Your gut was right, tho’. The mandates were criminal behavior by the government.

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Hank Rearden's avatar

At first I was ambivalent about the shot. I'm not an early adopter of anything. Besides, I never had so much as a flu shot and never got the flu or anything else, so why mess with success?

It took me perhaps two or three weeks until it became apparent something sinister was going on. First came the bribes, then the intimidation, and then the mandates...? So many red flags were waving in my face.

Then, my coworkers started dying suddenly. Some within a couple weeks. Some took a few months. Sometimes within days of each other. The ones who didn't die kept getting weird symptoms. Many are frequently out sick, always covid covid covid. Some haven't returned to work.

I don't attribute it to smartness. I only took college level basic biology courses and didn't do particularly well in them. Yes I have learned to trust my gut. It's batting 1000. Brain, not so much.

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Night owl's avatar

I wouldn't say I have PTSD, but I do find it nearly impossible to engage in small talk with normies anymore. I have some level of contempt for many of them, and on the occasions where I do give in, I realize why I can usually no longer do it.

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JohnAZ's avatar

Yeah, it IS sorta hard to deal with people who want to destroy everything you believe in,isn’t it.

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Porge's avatar

👍

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Night owl's avatar

I distinctly remember that there was a video that went viral at the time of a local restraurant owner somewhere in flyover country losing her mind that she could not open up, when a box store across the street was open 24/7.

Just another example of the utter absurdities accepted by the quivering masses.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

This virus behaves in the "essential" businesses but is naughty in the "non-essential" businesses. Good God, it gives me anxiety just thinking of the madness and that so many people actually accepted and believed this bullshit. I still just can't wrap my brain around this.

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Night owl's avatar

It also couldn't get you when seated at a restaurant, only when standing. ;)

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shibumi's avatar

church= non-essential

liquor stores + pot dispensaries= essential

Sure, Jan

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Ron Anselmo's avatar

*Accept and believe.* FIFY

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

Funny how the "essential" businesses all seemed to have very rich shareholders.

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Fritz Dahmus's avatar

Small business owners in Minnesota who did not comply with the Covid madness as brought to us by Governor Tampon Tim Waltz....were jailed! The fat little idiot rented a massive warehouse to store the bodies.....it was never used. Median age of Covid deaths in Minnesota --- 85.

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Alzaebo's avatar

Here is the finest explanation of the mindset you could ever find.

A couple minutes, short, simple, done so even a youngster could get it.

Goose Explains: "why facts don't work"

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Omc37TvHN74&si=56mZM-NFjVAh6QCV

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Lugh's avatar

Facts are boring and belong to everyone. People want special truths that only they get to know. That's how you become a Priestess....

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Ron Anselmo's avatar

100% CP! Never forgive, never forget. They are murderers and criminals.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

Why is Fauci still walking around free?

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C.M. Cardinale's avatar

100%, every single word.

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Breck Breckenridge's avatar

Your profanity was expertly used.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

I try to curb my use of profanity. Especially the use of the F--- word that so many Americans today will use multiple times in one sentence formulated to describe a bowl their favorite jello. I reserve use of the word to appropriately communicate total disgust in a person or in a person's action. Thank you for the compliment.

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JohnAZ's avatar

Cankerpuss,

I am never amazed at the gullibility of the American people, even me. Covid destroyed my faith in the Deep State, the federal government. Once I saw the data from the VAERS studies, I rued the day I took the shot. The government just flat ignored it. After I saw the reaction of Biden’s mob with Covid, that was enough. Power is the number one evil that can destroy societies.

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AJoy's avatar

Ditto

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Night owl's avatar

I agree and disagree. For me, it also didn't require a great deal of critical thinking either. I figured it out as soon as my local Obi hardware store told me I could wrap my jacket around my head to enter the store.

That said, quite a few people don't think much at all when put into a state of fear, particularly when it is coming from what is perceived as an official source.

What we might consider critical thinking is indeed far removed from how these people might define it.

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Hank Rearden's avatar

Going to a grocery store one day I actually wore a laundry bag over my head. You know, the mesh kind? To my astonishment, no one gave me the slightest curious glance.

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Janet's avatar

A guy in Walmart scolded me, an old granny, , to put my mask on. I told him to fuck off. Empowered me. I stood at the clinic desk with the receptionist behind the plexiglass fortress and slightly moved my purse. The entire ridiculous edifice crashed to the floor. A satisfying sound that made all heads turn. No lie, the receptionist whispered “Thank You”.

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Alzaebo's avatar

Ha! It was okay as long as you were wearing hijab, seperating the profane from the sacred. It was a religious requirement!

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C.M. Cardinale's avatar

Unbelievable, the fools.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

You were "complying". That's all they cared about.

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JohnAZ's avatar

NO, do you remember the fear factor put out by Cuomo in NYC? That is what got people fired up. Now he is running for mayor and losing to a Muslim socialist.

Sigh, only in America.

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Bjorn LaSanche's avatar

When they said two weeks at first. While I was skeptical, I allowed it to make a skeptical sense. When they said another six weeks was when I knew it was complete bullshit from jump and felt a fool for allotting the other side the empathy they requested. Here is the biggest part of Covid that I still look at in bewilderment. Covid if not an infant or elderly has over a 99% survivability. If you fall into either I’ve those two outlying columns, your survivability only decreases less than another percent. So,, over 98%. That’s over the survivability of regular influenza. Yt people are scared of Covid more than the plague or Ebola. The latter of which had had vectors directly imported into US less than five years prior with only (less than three if memory serves right) cases of people actually having Ebola and treated in Atlanta and sent home within the two week mandatory quarantine requirements set in place by the CDC. Which I was told I was a conspiracy theorist for questioning. In December of 2014 during the outbreak of Ebola in Nigeria there were Nigerian refugees sent to San Antonio where I live and were given what essentially was a wool blanket, a cell phone, and an atm card with $500 preloaded on it and essentially dumped onto the street. We were told that they weren’t checked for the virus but government officials stated that they were ok. That always sat wrong in my head because any potential of an unknown medical vector especially one which has such a high contractability and life threatening capability as Ebola or Marburg virus that mandatory medical quarantine time is two weeks. Period. Even if they already went through a quarantine outside the country. Well apparently unknown government officials word is a ok as long as local politicians get their vig. When Covid happed the unblinking adoption of hysteria without question by over 70% of citizens(my figure) to the point where calls for mandatory coercion of medical treatment which had been manufactured using molecular components of AIdS AND Ebola in it formulation as stated by the head of the Covid vaccine project who warned to not take it before its release and he was drummed out of the medical business completely. While the us of nose swabs to test if you had Covid and the guy who created that test told us on television that his test would either read a false positive or would t work at all then he was executed right after that press conference and people followed all this blindingly covered me immediately and filled me with nothing but apathy for most of my fellow citizens which remains today.

I cannot believe how many people are that goddamned stupid and have so much blind faith in the government which has proven over and over it is filled with nothing but grifters and what I can only label due to their words and actions, creations of hell. I am still trying to recover from the revelations that have come to light over the past 20 years and I’m not talking biblical revelations. I’m just talking about the lies and unwillingness to question things educated people shout. Democrats and college educated people across the board have proven without a shadow of doubt to me they are dumber than actual idiots and have no ability to think logically, solve simple rational problems. Placing average people suffering from Down syndrome at a higher intelligence level. And at least 60% of those who claim to be on the other side equally as inflicted with predominant shitforbrains gene turned on fully, but it’s the rights insistence that every bad thing a republican might express is somehow democrat propaganda. All of which has unfortunately led me to understand that the ideas expressed in Book Two of The Man Who Shall Not Be Named autobiography where he lays out his idea of a great society and the plan for aspiring parents to be decided by third party government agency whether the new citizens were mentally capable of becoming parents and if they could financially bri g new life into the society without burden to others and if they could would be mentored by older couples on how and what being responsible parents were before the female would be allowed to become

Pregnant. This plan also known as eugenics is actually a good idea for society and in hindsight actually necessary for civilizations future as the result of not adopting it, the idiots are now in control.

God we are doomed as a species. No concern for the future nor desire to better ourselves. For what, a phat wallet now with our progeny forced to pay for it in taxation and poverty in their future.

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Lugh's avatar

Illegal immigrants didn't have to get the Vax. Clear Kalergi Plan protocols to replace the White Man.

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Alzaebo's avatar

Oh, damn. That. That right there. And then the gates were opened at the same time, bringing us a whole host of other Blessings in the form of tuberculosis, leprosy, polio, whooping cough, meningitis...

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JohnAZ's avatar

Never has the abject Leftist grab for power been more obvious than Covid. The Vaxx is a total failure, it does little to prevent the disease. it has never been shown to alleviate the symptoms. Why is the public so stupid to line up to get boosters since the VAERS showed the true extent of the adverse effects. We still do not understand the full impact of the Vaxx as the government has done all it could to block real investigation. RFK, Jr.s recent re-vamping of the immunizations is gratifying so that immune systems are mature enough to handle them in all kids is gratifying. The recent discovery of Tylenol as a possible cause of autism when used in pregnancy is an indication that someone in the CD may be doing their jobs again. Is it Tylenol or the fevers that it is used for that causes the genetic change, or a combination of both. The reaction by the lobbyists is typical.

I would say that between the deteriorated indoctrination system and the legions of ignorant immigrants, the Deep State Dems have won the battle if not the war. I got a shot of hope yesterday, but the MAGA folks just do not understand how to fight this morass of stupidity.

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Night owl's avatar

I don't think the "virus" existed. The criminals followed the Big Lie model. The core of the story is that there was a deadly virus. Yet nothing about the story really ever made sense.

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JohnAZ's avatar

Well, whatever it was that has made me test positive and feel like shit twice for 4 days, I hate it.

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JohnAZ's avatar

I slept through most of it.

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Many (most?) folks think that the Germans had/have some unique defect in their culture that facilitated the horrors of the NAZI era. I kinda used to think that (but I didn't put alot of thought into it); but now, after living thru COVID in the USA I no longer believe that.

The COVID era revealed to me that approx 1/2 of Americans would either happily watch, or be "whatever" about, (name your designated group here) being shipped off to the FEMA camps in pursuit of some governmentally asserted "need" or "public good", and would, no doubt, cheer (or turn a blind eye) as to what happens there.

Leftists (they are not liberals) have gone from "Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me" to "Fuck you, you will do what we tell you". They have become the ultimate authoritarians.

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Alzaebo's avatar

The German people weren't OK with it - they never heard about it, remember?

Please get your propaganda straight.

What did "those soldiers" do? Stop making insinuations.

Tell me, what they do, what was their duty roster? They were men serving in lawful uniform under the rules of war, so they have a service record.

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Re-reading your comment, I see I'm in error. You are exactly right that many covidiots would happily see us carted off to camps - I apologise for my tone. They were actually building the Wellcome camps in Australia.

That tells me how we got here - by having that absurd insinuation pounded into us for decades, we became conditioned to it being a norm. We have come to expect it, and many are eager to seize the opportunity it affords.

"We'll get them before they get us," is what the ruling class and their Leftist minions are saying.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

Yes, I was permanently altered by the mRNA mandates. I will never trust any doctor or hospital or government "health" agency ever again, for instance.

And, sadly, I don't think I can trust a lot of my friends or relatives either. They would have pushed me into the boxcar and slammed the door. I never ostracize anyone, but I have become more wary about relying on them to do the right thing.

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JohnAZ's avatar

In Europe we have”

1. Admission of millions of Muslims to destroy the Christian cultures.

2. Freezing folks and destroying cattle farts to avoid a catastrophe that does not really exist.

3. Over-reacting to a virus that was a lie from the git go.

Good job, EU.

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

Re: Kimmel and all the other late-night comedy shows on ABC, CBS and NBC, can anyone think of one guest or comedian these shows booked, a person who challenged any of the hypocricy of the alleged pro-"free speech" and the allegedly "anti-fascist" hosts? I can't think of one comedian who got to perform a routine lampooning all of the bogus Covid guidance.

That's censorship - We will not book guests who might challenge the experts or disagree with Jimmy Kimmel, Stephen Colbert (and/orAnthony Fauci and Joe Biden).

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Tardigrade's avatar

I completely agree; my 2024 vote was based almost completely on first amendment principles and Covid censorship.

You asked for an example. I was very heartened when Jon Stewart was visiting Colbert's show and had a little rant about how *of course* the virus came from the Wuhan lab. Either they're very good actors, or Colbert really was as gobsmacked as he appeared.

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Janet's avatar

Me too and the child trans ideology since it trapped my only grandchild.

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Night owl's avatar

Only Jimmy Dore did so, but he's B-list. He got one shot, but he woke up quickly. Chappelle gave a bit of pushback, but not anything I would call particularly brave.

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

Who got the big show and the big bucks - Jimmy Kimmel or his former comedy partner, Adam Corrolla?

That's another tell.

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

And who gave Kimmel a $15 million/year salary? The good folks at the Disney Corporation.

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Sue Don Nim's avatar

You spelled USAID wrong.

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Night owl's avatar

Nice. I forgot about Carolla.

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

He is funny and does lampoon the More Virtuous than Thou crowd. I think he still supports his old comedy partner, though. I'd rip him a new one.

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Night owl's avatar

Hm, I recalled him being critical. Can't say exactly where I saw him lampooning the idiocy though...

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C.M. Cardinale's avatar

On the topic of comedians who have spoken on such subjects, in case some readers don’t know, are Jim Breuer (formerly of SNL): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bItcoUb5xsw

And a new guy I just heard of, from Aussie land, called Steven Hughes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbsHox73mRo .

I can’t vouch for anyone’s views on recent events, however. Just FYI.

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cbeard's avatar

Carson was/is king. Leno was good. Late night tv today is unwatchable. Grotesque, sickening, idiotic, perverted, ridiculous, etc. yadda, yadda

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AJoy's avatar

So is most most tv shows today

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JohnAZ's avatar

When you turn to every MSM outlet and all you see and hear is the same tripe from the DNC, that is not journalism, it is propaganda.

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NothingButNet's avatar

Who is John Galt?

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Lugh's avatar

A Capitalist asshole? Much like those at Davos. They don't fight the Communists, they fund them.

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JohnAZ's avatar

Europe is socialist. They believe that their”nobility” needs to make their decisions for them. DAVOs is typical.

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JohnAZ's avatar

That is what Obama wanted, European socialism. MAGA (the Tea Party)has been fighting it since then.

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C.M. Cardinale's avatar

Rand’s independent, freedom-loving heroes, don’t seem to be the type of rich person responsible for the world we live in now. The heroes in Rand’s books were not part of conspiracies and they didn’t solicit special laws or treatment or buy out media to fool the public into believing in bogeymen requiring a centrally planned world.

It’s too bad that massive international conspiracy is real. We could have had a legitimate world with real freedom and real progress and perpetual peace.

Something Rand didn’t seem to know or acknowlege is that there is a gigantic machine of sorts that actually owns all money and all things, enough so to pull the wool over the eyes of the average person and take us — via centuries of engineered strife, fear, war, and terror — to a centrally controlled, communistic world.

I.e., I don’t think John Galt is the same thing as real-world controlled lieutenants like Thiel, Soros, Gates, and all the others who are playing roles on a larger world stage. Both have wealth but their values and principles are fundamentally different.

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Alzaebo's avatar

Bah. Galt's grandkids will fund climate change initiatives, and Thomas Sowell's grandkids will steal your hubcaps.

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Kenneth R. Mintz's avatar

I’ve had that sticker on my vehicle for years.

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Hank Rearden's avatar

I should get one.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

I am.

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Glitterpuppy's avatar

Hmmm. I thought I was…

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Alzaebo's avatar

The 5-second version of Ayn Rand:

"Oh Dabney, Dabney, I want to lay your tracks!"

"Oh John, John, give me your mighty steel!"

Aftermath:

"Now, build me a cabin in Colorado!"

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Breck Breckenridge's avatar

Again, but I repeat myself, this was all a gigantic global psy-op carefully orchestrated by the oligarchic think-tanks. It showed many things, but the fact that it was "GLOBAL" should be enough evidence of a conspiracy.

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C.M. Cardinale's avatar

Absolutely.

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Breck Breckenridge's avatar

And almost unimaginable political power.

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Rosemary B's avatar

it is really difficult to endure this treatment.

People we once loved and now decided that we are not worthy

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KatWarrior's avatar

Indeed, Hank! If one has been operating under the assumption that the last 5 years was a Plandemic accompanied by all its moronic evils; masking, lockdowns, digital passports, poison shots, censorship, gender insanity, and numerous other upside down vagaries!

How can one make sense of any of this or anyone under the satanic spell?! How do you speak with those when their brains cannot conceive of rational or critical thinking? Do they magically wake up one day?

Love the sinner, not the sin.

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Janet's avatar

Look at this way, Hank, and sad to say, but now you know who would have ratted you out to the Gestapo. This will only get worse until it isn’t. A real spiritual war is going on and we must not take any of this lightly. There isn’t enough violence yet to satisfy this mob.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

Same here. Wife and I wouldn't buy into it, and definitely would not submit to the vaxx. The way it was pushed was the creepiest thing I ever experienced, all media, 24/7 for years.

And we aren't all that sold on Trump either because of his own stance on the vaxx, and his continued suppression of the Epstein evidence, among other reasons. Light years better than Biden anyway.

I've taken to printing out these stickers on my home printer, cutting them out, and putting them up wherever I go:

https://patrick.net/frame.html

I still can't believe how evil it all was, or that literally no one has been punished for any part of it.

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AJoy's avatar

Same situation:(

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C.M. Cardinale's avatar

I really appreciate this comment.

I know people too who were old and close friends since childhood who were permanently divorced over the refusal of one to get the so-called vaccine. The shunner still hasn’t so much as spoken a word to the shunnee even these five years later.

A Gulch is long overdue.

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Alzaebo's avatar

The Gulch Archipelago

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TriTorch's avatar

The problem is t hat everything we're seeing is a stage play, and a bad one at that, and is getting worse all the time. They're not even trying to make it seem real anymore, it's all being phoned in from whatever replaced Epstein Island.

And this deliberate lack of detail in making this illusion appear real in itself is a large part of the PSYOP: They're turning our reality into a cartoon as a form of disassociation brainwashing: the population becomes increasingly mentally conditioned to lie to itself which makes the residents far easier direct, steer, and control. It's so far gone now that anyone that steps out of line to point out the obvious - that the emperor has no clothes - is progressively more and more considered a nutty conspiracy theorist.

"The farther a society drifts from the truth, the more they will hate those who speak it" -Orwell

We're drifting farther away everyday, and it's astonishing how easy the human mind is to control. It's like putty in their wicked hands.

There are a bunch of solutions here:

https://tritorch.substack.com/p/united-we-stand-divided-we-fall

It all boils down to this however:

The solution is to get local, get self-dependent, get the common unity back in community by building webs of resilience with your neighbors, get control of your school boards, mayors office, and town councils, get to know your sheriff, get a garden in your lawn no matter how small, a single tomato plant is better than nothing, get a well (water is your most important resource hands down), get ready, get moving, get doing, and, if so inclined, get God.

start where you are use what you have do what you can get a garden not matter how small

Practically the entire “establishment” is a group of dark triad emotional vampires. We need to get self-sufficient immediately - figure out how to live without them completely (eg no more supermarkets) - and begin ignoring them. This will starve them - the one thing they cannot stand above all others is to be summarily disregarded- and in our favor we will not longer be their emotional puppets dangling from their psychotic string.

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Jim Johnson's avatar

not so sure about that. the divisions are not just up and down (establishment vs. normal's). the divisions are peer to peer at the family, neighbor level. frankly, I have less agita with the establishment than with the brother/sister-in-law I visited over the past few days. I see them as a disease and sure they see me that way. within 100 years, I'd bet the USA is split along ideological lines. that could be ugly along the way.

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TriTorch's avatar

Alas, that has been done on purpose. Check out the linked United article above. Here is more in the same vein:

"If you catch 100 red fire ants as well as 100 large black ants, and put them in a jar, at first, nothing will happen. However, if you violently shake the jar and dump them back on the ground the ants will fight until they eventually kill each other. The thing is, the red ants think the black ants are the enemy and vice versa, when in reality, the real enemy is the person who shook the jar. This is exactly what's happening in society today. Liberal vs conservative, black vs white, pro mask vs anti-mask, vax vs anti-vax, rich vs poor, man vs woman, cop vs citizen. The real question we need to be asking ourselves is who's shaking the jar ... and why?" —Shera Starr

"There is something way bigger going on when you can divide everyone in the entire world into an 'us vs them' mentality on almost every single subject." —Prevensilk

The media - both news and entertainment - have now politicized nearly everything in our society as an extremely powerful mechanism of control.

Politicization is so effective at manipulating the populace because most people emotionally connect their personal belief system to the belief system of their political party, and so then any attack on their party - legitimate or otherwise - is interpreted by their brain as an attack on themselves. Reason and logic then jump out the nearest window as raw emotion takes the helm, thus making them even more susceptible to the predatory controlling influences.

"A mental conflict occurs when beliefs are contradicted by new information. This conflict activates areas of the brain involved in personal identity and emotional response to threats. The brain's alarms go off when a person feels threatened on a deeply personal and emotional level, causing them to shut down and disregard any rational evidence that contradicts what they previously regarded as "truth".

It's often far easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."

Most people will not act to secure their future, so long as they feel they have an advocate fighting for them in the public or political arenas. This is why Republican vs Democrat equals divide and conquer (we fight amongst ourselves while they decimate our support systems and establish totalitarian control). The human mind is binary. Our thought process can often be boiled down into terms (often ultimatums) of – this or that – and our adversaries understand - very well - the art of this war.

"We are dominated by the relatively small number of persons who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind, assault on your mind." —Edward Bernay’s, the Father of Propaganda, said the above in his 1928 book. Unsurprisingly Bernays was the great uncle of Marc Randolph, the father of Netflix.

So instead of you taking control of the system at the local level or working to prepare for the worst (growing a garden, digging a well, strengthening your community, gathering supplies, and becoming resilient) you hold out hope for a politician to swoop in and solve your problems for you. There is only one place this lack of action can take us. Power corrupts and Washing DC is as corrupt as they come.

"The United States is a one-party state, but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them." —Julius Nyerere

Described above are extremely damaging and misfortunate exploit of human nature. Worse, these exploits are as easy to execute as flipping a light switch for the majority of the population - and they are currently being employed to their maximum effect in order to dissolve the United States of America—the last ideal and bulwark of freedom standing in the doorway of total universal tyranny.

The largest PSYOP in history is unfolding right before our eyes, armed with incalculable amounts of human behavior data harvested from internet social media and smart phone usage geared toward manipulating us to walk in lock-step into the incinerator of our own destruction.

We're dealing with a captured media and the transparently obvious military grade psychological operations they are relentlessly employing, the millions of people that believe their every obvious lie and preach it as gospel, and their near total obliviousness to the self-evident fact that these contrived, breaking-the-Richter-scale political earthquakes are the predicate to the ruination of our Republic and the twilight of freedom.

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Meemanator's avatar

We are at war with dark principalities.

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shibumi's avatar

Satan.

Never thought I'd be the person saying it's Satan, but... there you go.

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Meemanator's avatar

Satan is the original psychopath. He knows he can't win but he still thinks he might. At the very least he wants to take as many with him as possible.

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Joan Janoski's avatar

The “something way bigger that’s going on” is the debasement of nation’s currencies. We are at the end of the current fiat monetary system. The Ponzi scheme is coming to its inevitable end. They need war.

Great posts BTW

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TriTorch's avatar

Thanks.

No worries, hyperinflation will make us all rich. It’ll be like Zimbabwe, we’ll all be hundred-trillionaires, and just think of all the goodies each and everyone of us can buy with that!!

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Jerri Hinojosa's avatar

I’ve been in two countries at the time their currencies “collapsed”-one virtually overnight and the other after a few years of creating new bills with more and more zeros until a 1,000,000 Lira note had more value as wallpaper or toilet tissue than currency. The people catch on right away as soon as it’s too late.

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Breck Breckenridge's avatar

'The people catch on right away as soon as it’s too late'.

That could be the shorthand description of human societies.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Ya know it’s funny, but all that brilliant gobbledegook is great. Really great. But All I want is to be left the fuck alone. Completely. And unfortunately those that don’t like me, want to tell me what I can and cannot think. And I’m sorry, but that only comes from one group of people. And I have no problem with them. They are welcome to self immolate for all I care. But they will not leave me alone. So I am against them of my own free will.

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Rick's avatar

Take away the fake monetary system, the just us system, the evil medical system, the lying media and Academia? The Country would rapidly improve....

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Alzaebo's avatar

The wild thing is Antifa has done just that, created a parallel niche economy. Karlyn Borysenko, doing the yeoman's work of attending Anarchist meetings in hundreds of cells across the country and reading their samizdata, relates that while Cointelpro, Soros and USAID kickstarted their movement, now they have wandered off the reservation to go full independent, supporting themselves with subscriptions and minor theft.

This makes them the Amish of the new urban environment. They have learned to harvest resources from the environment in which they live, just as our criminal political class and our criminal classes do. They are adapting to the new circumstances.

What they do, is mutual aid. A boomer will tell them to get a haircut and fill out their 400th job application. A leftist will tell them to find a web job with Fiverr. A prepper will tell them to go buy raw land with a USDA loan and learn to hoe turnips.

What they find with the anarchist groups, is somebody who has diapers, or some canned food, or a ride, and is happy to not only talk to them, but to take them in and give them a place where they can contribute. They'll take anybody, no matter how weird or pierced, so it is a community of the lost making their own salvation. Plus, it's fun, exciting, and exceedingly stupid, so it sounds great when classied up by big words - sure catnip to the broken kids of our sundered society.

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Lugh's avatar

But you accept that they should be in the same jar, right? Wrong. The person who shakes the jar also put them in the same jar or nation.

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Miryamnae's avatar

Yes. Two camps, two armies. Ceasefire while the clueless climbed out of their masks is long gone. It is war.

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Breck Breckenridge's avatar

These are all, of course, perfectly true things to do. And if this situation was amenable to such reasonable things, we'd face a much brighter future. Alas, it is not so. The evil is going to play itself out. Then, and only then, can those who survive, begin to do the things you cite.

I confess. I confess that I was still idealistic and optimistic enough to believe that Trump just might be what we needed. That the prophecies of the Christians were really not going to happen like they think. That there really is not One Great Evil in the World that is in charge.

But the more and more I look the more and more I see the latter explanation being the most likely given the evidence.

I'm reminded of this: The play is God on Trial (also known as The Trial of God), a British television play from 2008 based on a story by Elie Wiesel of Jews in Auschwitz putting God on trial for breaking his covenant by allowing the Holocaust. The story is an allegory, initially conceived by Wiesel as a play and later adapted into the 2008 film, where three Jewish scholars conduct an in absentia trial of God for the suffering of His people.

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Alzaebo's avatar

Wow. That play, by that man, could not capture the essence of their messianic vision any more perfectly - while I will not bore you with the mechanics of the spiritual, there truly is a war between two Forces at work here.

The problem is, the religious, being ignorant of said mechanics, continue to confuse one God with another, as if they were one. This is the great mistake of the monotheists.

There are two drivers; race itself is the expression of those drivers. We are not the same, the child's ideal of Unity is a child's errand. The operant force within the greenhouse, having a different function, contends with the forces that made the greenhouse, which is another function entire.

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yossarian's avatar

this issue pains me, too. i used to pride myself on my openness. not any more. my livelihood depends on me keeping silent in response to the blue stupidity and arrogance in my daily life. they make a virtue of canceling relatives and old friends. i don’t but to survive i ghost them and keep communication to a minimum without inviting a confrontation. i suspect many of them will die before they have a chance to wake up. sometimes a lonely road is the only good choice.

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

You've figured out you have to go along with the pack or the herd to not experience major negative professional consequences. Everybody performs their own "risk-benefit" analysis.

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Liber8or's avatar

Got to watch out for the "Cancel Culture" once they've run out of things to cancel. They've torn down every stature in every park, changed the Washington Redskins to the Commanders, and changed the Cleveland Indians to the Guardians. I wear my Chief Wahoo ball cap with pride.

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Miryamnae's avatar

Indeed!

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Poolside at the Decline's avatar

"my livelihood depends on me keeping silent"

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For me that strategy used to work, not any more. As a white, unrepentantly hetero male I am suspect (or worse) by Leftists if I offer no opinion; or fail to regularly express sufficient "double plus right think".

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yossarian's avatar

sorry to read that. there is a similar pattern where i work. many of the management types and their assistants have been replaced by people who meet dei criteria. we've lost a lot of great managers to this disease. skilled technical people like me are less vulnerable because our value is directly measured by our output.

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

We need to accept the fact that some people (your West Coast relative) are lost in their delusions and are incapable of sustaining relationships that require mutual respect and honest communication.

Yes, I know how painful it is to recognize the futility of efforts to reach out and reconcile past friendships and familial ties. But, living in reality is healthier for us and for the friends and family members who do appreciate us and our clear-thinking worldview.

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Jo A's avatar

Very well said Kathleen. It’s painful to realize a relative does not respect you or your point of view.

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shibumi's avatar

I had.... let's just call them "bad relatives" back in the day. Not criminals, more of the personality disorder types. We went no-contact with them decades before anyone even thought of the phrase "no contact." They were psychologically destructive people, and my parents did not want destructive people in our lives.

Instead of mourning those relatives that have morphed into unrecognizable factories of hate, just accept who they are and move on. Your real relatives are the people who care about you, and-- even if you have wildly different ideas-- don't foist their politics on you. Family doesn't have to mean "blood" in this day and age.

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

Your parents set a good example for you by eliminating toxic influences. Tolerance of destructive individuals gives them an opportunity to impart their attitudes to impressionable children.

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

"I appreciate your support of my free speech." (Sarc).

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Mun’s Frolick's avatar

That day when “we will start talking again” seems far distant, Jim — a long, long way off, and probably a mirage.

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Miryamnae's avatar

Mirage.

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4Freedom's avatar

I believe that those who shun us because of a difference of opinion show exactly how little we meant to them. I’m over worrying about the situation. Getting along just fine without their presence in my life.

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Miryamnae's avatar

Enjoying my isolation now.

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wkenn's avatar

I'm not sure if I cleared out a lot of people or they cleared me out. Likely it is a bit of both. I'm not lamenting. I moved physically to a somewhat quieter place. Enjoying it.

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John Klar's avatar

People will talk again when the whole shebang collapses and they are starving in the streets. Or maybe they will just eat each other when their pets have all been barbecued.

I, too, have lost friends and family -- for adhering to the values of free speech, the rule of law, and respecting others that I held when I was a Democrat (the old kind, unrecognizable in today's party).

You hit this oddity dead-on:

"When we were hippies back in the day, they were very much opposed to war, turned-off by attempts at censorship, and deeply averse to the dark operations of the CIA and FBI. Now, they seem avid for intel ops and hoaxes, eager for war, and all-in for censoring ideas that make them feel “unsafe.”

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Il faut savoir ~'s avatar

What have we done? Hippie days; we believed in something which has been replaced with our morphing into idiot consumers, always wanting more and trading all virtues and principles for stuff! It may be that the Christian revival of the current youth might turn this around but the forces that are enslaving us run deep. Hippies had cohesion. The current divisions are planned and fed by some dark force. Prepare your garden indeed! Oh and I haven't heard from my brothers in many years, their egos dictating their silence. I don't miss them, it's just bizarre how in the same family unit, 3 people came out very differently.

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TriTorch's avatar

Give this a watch John, if you have a couple of minutes to spare:

Media Mind Control Has Made Far Left Convictions From 30 Years Ago Morph Into Far Right Beliefs: https://old.bitchute.com/video/IKyVxqDKp1Nb [1:28mins]

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Alzaebo's avatar

Before I watch it, I'm guessing the Left are the new Nazis. The Right is trying to pretzel logic itself again.

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Woops, I had it backwards! This was happily satisfying, and she's right!

(Hat tip to the nice lady for all the effort she put in, and for being years ahead of yours truly.)

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TriTorch's avatar

Hat tip indeed

Plus hats off

Plus mad respect to her for recognizing things from such a higher level (the divide-and-conquer game is so simple and idiotically stupid and yet almost all of us fall for it at some point) before many of us ever could or - and this is most important - would.

It's so so so much easier to fool us than to convince us we've been fooled.

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Bee Jay's avatar

for every friend you've lost, Im sure you've gained 10 because of your writing.

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

Tucker Carlson's show literally got cancelled - and some of his podcasts now get 100 million views.

Lesson: It actually can pay to be a contrarian (but not so much for me on Substack. I was doing well for a year or two and growing my audience and then - Bam! - something changed. Pundits who think like Jimmy Kimmel are the new content all-stars on Substack - yet another tell.)

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reality speaks's avatar

The problem is 100% on the left. There is plenty of grace being exhibited by people on the right as evidenced by Charlie Kirk and his own personal life. Sasha Stone is another example or Naomi Wolf. The root problem is that the foundation of the lefts worldview is that it built upon the sands of lies so many lies that it’s impossible to count vs being built upon the rock of truth. The left cannot tolerate any dissent at all. When it controlled the media it controlled the narrative and the conversation. The opening up of the airwaves first with Rush Limbaugh who could communicate a message with wit and grace that resonated with millions even while he was lied about and demonized followed by the rise of podcasts and people like Charlie Kirk and other truth tellers. The left again cannot tolerate any dissent and will do anything to eliminate it as we witness On September 10 2025. It’s truly a contest between good and evil and we shall not let evil prevail even if it means that many of us good people have to die with our boots on.

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

Bingo and really all that needs to be said on this topic:

"The left cannot tolerate any dissent at all."

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wkenn's avatar

And persons fitting such description will let you know emphatically how correct they must be along with how terrible you must be for not agreeing with them.

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

My virtue is superior to your virtue. And I have a job and you don't - ha! ha!

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William Wallace's avatar

Facts are kryptonite for the delusional.

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Lugh's avatar

The Neo-Cons were Russian Communists who consciously switched to American Conservatism, changing the vehicle to suit themselves. White Americans seem incapable of this kind of mastery. The Neo-Cons don't believe in any of it. They believe in themselves. Whites actually take all of these ideologies seriously and don't believe in themselves at all. We have so much to learn from the Elder Brothers, the first National Socialists.

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Truman Verdun's avatar

Thanks Jim. Yes, the social fabric is badly frayed, from a number of causes--family drift, geographical dislocation, distraction, preoccupation with self, top down propaganda delivered through the smart phone, etc.

Because people are increasingly unable to conduct civil and rational conversations, the more uptight and inarticulate party storms off red-faced when his or her belief system is challenged.

The lingering fealty of the old lefties and hippies to the political parties of the 60s and 70s is largely due to lazy thinking and misplaced loyalties. Like sports fans who tattoo team logos all over their bodies and faces--indelibly marring themselves while the owners and players laugh it up and chase the almighty dollar--so too do people remain blindly loyal to old brands that now stand for the exact opposite of what they used to. But the herd lows and grazes with the comfortably numb mind of the browsing mass.

Another way of describing the mind-prison is this: most people fear rejection from the herd more than they value being right on the facts. They just want to belong--at whatever cost. As the philosopher said, "Some part of us never leaves junior high school."

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Liber8or's avatar

Yes, people fear rejection from the herd. The mind-prison you mention reminds me of the Movie The Matrix, when Morpheus explains the Matrix to Neo, "You have to understand. Most people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured and so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it. "

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Truman Verdun's avatar

You're right, and the Matrix expresses much psychological truth. A very fine movie.

It takes a whole lot of energy, humility, and integrity to face up to having been snookered, bamboozled and even whipped up into an unthinking (and near-murderous) frenzy by false facts and narratives. We all probably know people who gobbled down a whole decade of MSM propaganda and now can't face up to the humiliation of having been so badly fooled.

When the snookered get even more frenzied, they are tripling down on the narratives; when they go silent, they are usually signaling intimations of snookerdom -- but they can almost never admit it. "Who knew?" they shrug. "It was a confusing time." (Many truth-seekers knew--and got hammered for speaking up.) The social confusion has been streaming from a factory-sized smoke machine turned on full blast by nearly all the "prestigious" institutions.

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Alzaebo's avatar

For years after seeing The Matrix, when I was really having a bad day - which was often, in my industry - I would think to myself, "don't sweat it - none of this is real, anyways."

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DDForTruth's avatar

Exceptional statement Friend.

If I may, there is one thing I'd like to add.

Folks have lost their identity.

Instead of looking within to discover who they truly are, and coming to terms with the good, the bad and the ugly, they glom onto the nearest hivemind for safety and reassurance that they matter, and don't stick out like a sore thumb, anywhere, any time, to any one, for any reason, whatsoever, ever.

They remain happy as a sea grass blade in the bed of sea grass.

They are the followers and will defend that stance, viciously sometimes, because to them, that is who they are.

I expect, as I truly believe it is indeed coming, that the MSM narrative purveyors, which literally brainwashed millions, for decades, will be the very Jackasses to 'un-brainwash' the sea grass with truth bombs. They will be given no other choice but to.

The resulting sea grass movement:

Some will do the "DOH" thing, and be furious that they have been lied to.

Some will be picking their dropped jaws up off the floor as flashes of what they said and did pop off in their brains like fireworks.

And some will never accept the truths, no matter what.

The first two categories - we will have a chance to NOT say "I told you so," for that solves nothing, but to listen with compassion as they work things out. Yup, it'll take time, but it is worth it. Leave no one behind.

The last category - that's their choice, come what may.

When identities are tied to the 'thing' of the day, they crumble.

When identities are tied to the Soul, they are strong.

Again, absolutely loved your comment.

*Tips hat

Much Love

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Truman Verdun's avatar

Thanks DD. Completely agree with you that a large part of the problem of "the Lost" is that they have no firm footing within. Hence the bewildered rage and desperate grasping at any old slimy frond of seaweed in the storm.

Relentless social media and all their never-ending cascade momentary distractions (pleasure, rage - dopamine, adrenalin, "tribaline") separate us, as you say, from the clear waters of the soul that well up unbidden when we are quiet enough let them into consciousness. Therefore the need to tune out extraneous noise so we can begin to hear the rich and abundant silence within: whether we call it shunyata or the soul or the Divine or Eternity ... it's there, always there, radiantly abiding.

And the soul, unlike the overpaid bobbleheads yabbering away on the boob tube, can never lead us astray.

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DDForTruth's avatar

LOVE your eloquent way of writing Friend.

And I concur.

Much Love

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Truman Verdun's avatar

Thx DD; you have a fine sequence above with the sea grass and the three shakeout groups after some sort of public reckoning with the facts (--far from a given, of course, given the No Apologies continuous spinning of dishonest and fantastic narratives. The liars are banking on 30% of the hypnotized to never wake up. These are the walking self-lobotomized.

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Tardigrade's avatar

'Like sports fans who tattoo team logos all over their bodies and faces--indelibly marring themselves while the owners and players laugh it up and chase the almighty dollar--so too do people remain loyal to old brands that stand for the exact opposite of what they used to.'

👍

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Breck Breckenridge's avatar

Whenever I see a post by Truman I perk up!

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Alzaebo's avatar

The Grazing Class! Same as the Lowing Class, lol. They're even branded!

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C.M. Cardinale's avatar

Incredibly well said.

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Rob D's avatar

Being called a "far right" by someone, in my experience, typically seems to indicate that the person calling me that doesn't have a valid argument for why they believe the way they do. Either that, or they are terrified to find out that everything they believe has been a lie. I'm anything but "far right", but anymore, I wear it as a badge of honor if someone calls me that.

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Hugh Wayne Black's avatar

Well said! Being “far right” these days was considered being middle of the road not long ago. Using common sense and critical thinking to conduct our lives, and basically just wanting to be left alone was normal. We haven’t changed, we’ve just resisted the brainwashing.

I not only wear being called “far right” as a badge of honor I laugh in their faces.

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Lugh's avatar

Exactly. The Founding Fathers would be considered National Socialists now, not just Fascists since they injected race into the equation. They didn't consider Indians or Blacks to be potential citizens and would be amazed at the behavior of the descendants.

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Night owl's avatar

They usually don't. To be honest, even arguing against the false narratives of the day is difficult to do in a fact-based manner.

For instance, take what I believe the biggest lie in modern history, the existence of Covid: Even there, one can't actually prove existence either way.

Since the media is largely controlled, none of the plebes really have the information necessary to prove whether any of the bullshit narratives foisted on us are actually true or false. Many times they are not entirely true or false anyways.

You work with what you know you know and you trust your instincts.

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john galt's avatar

Quite correct, as despite their incredibly powerful electronic microscopes, no one has ever identified the so-call Covid virus, so they conjure up pictures of evil and threatening looking spiked orbs. A total scam that brought, and is still bringing, hundreds of billions of $, perhaps trillions to the drug pushers and their political associates. A huge mass casualty weapon, with more to follow.

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wkenn's avatar

$1,000/second to Pfizer during the heyday of the hoax.

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JDaveF's avatar

It's past time Trump Derangement Syndrome was recognized as a mental illness, one of the psychoses. It destroys relationships, causes delusions, and can be fatal - as we have seen in the past 2 weeks. A malignant disorder that causes many of the formerly meekest and gentlest folks - female school teachers and healthcare workers - to degenerare into bloodthirsty fiends. It may be related to the condition of "amuk" in Malaysia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amok_syndrome

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Tardigrade's avatar

I have to agree. The more severe sufferers do indeed appear to be mentally ill.

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Poolside at the Decline's avatar

Trump Derangement Syndrome is a symptom - not a single, fully self contained mental health event unrelated to other causative precursors.

If my food allergy produces a rash on my face, you see the rash. That is a symptom of my immune system failing to function properly. Focusing on and treating the rash does't address the core of the problem.

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JDaveF's avatar

OK - so what is it?

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Hugh Wayne Black's avatar

Wow! Just replace “running amok” with experiencing TDS is spot on. Scary!

I would only argue that this is a natural human reaction to brainwashing over time, and not necessarily unique to any one culture. It’s possible that one culture might use it more effectively than another to control their members, similar to a cult.

Thanks for the link. Very interesting. 👍.

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William Wallace's avatar

I guess in hindsight there were many more people who didn’t heed the Brown Acid Warnings at Woodstock than I originally thought!

The reversal of the 1960’s and 1970’s social justice movement to their dictatorial positions today is no longer psychedelic it’s psychotic!

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Hugh Wayne Black's avatar

Or the syphilis they contracted while there has gone stage 3…

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Tardigrade's avatar

Brown acid warnings 😵‍💫 Excellent point!

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Kitsune, Maskless Crusader.'s avatar

I for one fall in to at least one of the groups you describe for I have all but zero trust in anyone with “M.D.” behind their name. Not that this group held a lot of credit with me before the panic, but as a group, they have none now. Same with the leaders of the West and those aligned with them.

There is another group that claims me as well, the one for those who have by either my own volition or not, have been cut off from most I knew before the panic. For those who I have not kept up with, it was/is not due to disagreements. I have lost so many long term relationships over their mad masking that I am loath to contact those have not split from over this as I need to have at least some positive memories untarnished by mad maskers. I can bear to learn of another person who I had trusted for their clear headed falling in with mad maskers.

But it is more than just the madness induced by the panic. Much predates it, but I believe is connected. I have no patience for pronoun speaking people. Nor AGW nut cases. Those who cannot wait for the convenience of the digital prison treat is being built around us earn a significant amount of my ire.

The madness of the past 5 and 1/2 years has destroyed my marriage of 21 years and my relationships with my kids. I would like little more than to live off the land far from the “company of my fellow man.”.

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