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Freedom 4 conservatives's avatar

One of my good friends had a father (now deceased) who was a prominent M.D. He called out big Pharma and "Big Medicine" years ago. One of this fine Dr.'s most memorable remarks was that the American Medical Association was nothing more than a labor union. The AMA purposely made entry into the medical profession difficult, so as to limit the number of M.D.'s that could practice, thus limiting "competition" in the industry. Not surprisingly, there got to be a shortage of doctors, especially in rural areas. AMA policies also encouraged doctors to specialize, severely limiting the number of "General Practice" physicians in the marketplace. And, of course, despite the AMA's constant bleating, Medicare and Medicaid guaranteed a profitable, if not completely lucrative income to the the medical industry. The misstep that the AMA made was assuming that the guaranteed income would actually go to doctors. Ha! Most of it now goes to moribund government bureaucrats and private insurers who are the reason that medical costs are now in the stratosphere. And, of course, Big Pharma got into the act of slurping up all kinds of money from "the system." Now, when doctors can't break the bad news that a patient's lifestyle habits are slowly killing him or her, the doctor just reaches for the prescription pad.

I learned how the medical racket worked years ago. Back when, I had medical insurance with a large deductible. When I got the bill for a minor surgery, I was appalled. So, I asked for an itemized bill. Down the list in the bill was a charge for a "Beaver Blade"--a small surgical blade, much like the disposable blade in an Exacto knife. I was in the livestock business at the time and we bought these blades (in sterilized packages identical to those sold to hospitals). A box of 100 sold then for $50--50 cents apiece. The charge on the hospital bill for ONE Blade--$58! Marked up over 100 times what the hospital likely paid for the blade. That nonsense still goes on daily in the medical/government/medical insurance racket. And YOU pay for it. Remember what economist Milton Friedman so correctly said: No one cares about the cost of something when the "something" is being bought for someone else with someone else's money. That's socialized or semi-socialized medicine.

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Art's avatar

Speaking of the AMA did you know that the billing (cpt) codes that a physician must use to obtain payment from insurance companies is the intellectual property of the AMA? And they receive over $300 million annually in royalties on cpt codes. Why doesn’t the federal government under HHS/Medicare create an open source billing code system with their huge budget?

https://www.thebignewsletter.com/p/how-the-american-medical-association

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MarshaLouise's avatar

cpt = current procedural terminology - Art, I suggest that your very good suggestion be submitted to RFK Jr, available on X.

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Ruth Gordon's avatar

I'm not going to argue against most of your post because it's spot on. However, what people need to realize is that medical providers (nurses, doctors, etc) do not collect the amount of money on the bill. Never. They collect whatever they've agreed to with the carriers who they've signed up with. That is typically around 10% or less of the line item charge. The exception to this is out-of-network providers. In those cases they can use arbitration to recover a lot of what the insurance carrier denies. I know as I have created software in the industry for years.

That being said, the $58 beaver blade in your example still probably netted $6 for them instead of the $1 or so they should get. What really pisses me off about the industry is the ability of the insurance carriers to pay incentives for prescribing certain drugs or reaching certain sales levels on things like vaccines and "vaccines." This is morally and ethically bankrupt.

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Mitch's avatar

In Trump's first term he worked to solve the problem with transparency in pricing in healthcare. You are absolutely correct that providers don't receive anywhere near what is quoted, but this lack of transparency in pricing helps them maintain the current oligopolistic insurance market dominance.

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Suzie's avatar

Many years ago, a friend got her bill itemized also and found equally outrageous charges like you have reported, including a charge of about $50 for a box of tissues!! Seriously - I saw that charge with my own eyes.

And If you seek recourse of any kind, you will be sucked into a vortex that will suck the very life life out of you.

It is a wholly corrupt and corrupted system.

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Ben's avatar

$25 for bayer aspirin.

This is the government getting involved as always anything they get involved in drives prices through the roof.

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Suzie's avatar

Absolutely-every freaking thing they touch and every single thing only also ever becomes exponentially worse that when the government intervened to “help.”

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Lugh's avatar

And private industry is right there with them. Private is no remedy. The Law of the Market, the so called "hidden hand" will not save us. They control whole industries. Monopoly nullifies competition - a "sin" in their book.

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Kathy Christian's avatar

When my husband was in the hospital once, I noticed that everything used had a bar code that was scanned prior to use.

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Lugh's avatar

$10 for every bolt in ship building.

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Ben's avatar

OH PLEASE $10 it wouldn't surprise me if they were $100 they have to be stainless steel since they come in contact with water.

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Lugh's avatar

You ship is nothing but hull, eh? And your America nothing but a legal immigrant labor camp, hell in other words.

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Ben's avatar
May 14Edited

Every part of a ship at one point or another comes into contact with salt water or water vapor which is corrosive.

There are requirements on all ship builders plans to use stainless steel bolts, washers and nuts as well as rivets throughout the ship as a result.

Some claim bad steel fasteners are what actually sank the Titanic.

I'm surprised I had to explain this to you oh wait no I am not.

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Kathy S.'s avatar

One of the reasons for the $58 blade was that the hospital otherwise could go bankrupt on all the indigent, uninsured, often illegal-immigrant people showing up in the E.R. who, by law, MUST be treated. Since those people can't pay anything, the hospital tries to recoup its costs by extorting money from the insured, paying patients.

Years ago, I volunteered for a public clinic serving indigent people. I was amazed to find out that the total cost charged to a pregnant patient there -- covering all her prenatal care PLUS labor and delivery at the hospital -- was $200. This was just a few years after I'd had a normal childbirth myself, and the hospital bill -- not including my prenatal care, just the actual labor and delivery -- was $10,000. The itemized bill that I requested had things like $10 for one dose of ibuprofen or acetaminophen (can't remember which). When I asked why the absurd cost, I was given the explanation I laid out above; I was subsidizing the people who couldn't pay.

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Lugh's avatar

We pay those who replace us to do so. We are the enslaved.

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MarshaLouise's avatar

But Americans don’t believe they are paying for socialized healthcare, do they?

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Donna Wilson's avatar

Mistakes are made in billing, too--though never, I've noticed, in the patient's favor.

When I was in medical school in 1979, we were told to choose a patient in the hospital and compare their chart to their itemized bill. I picked a fellow who'd been hospitalized overnight for cardiac observation. He was in house 24 hours. His total bill was $1000 (like I said, this was 1979). Upon examining his chart, I saw that one item was charged twice--$250 each time. So fully one quarter of his bill was a mistake. He had insurance, so I'm sure he didn't check an itemized bill. Whether his insurance caught it or not I don't know. But I always check my bills, and I never pay one without calling both my insurance carriers. Many's the time I've been told either they didn't know I had the second insurance, or I wasn't liable because it hadn't gone to the second yet (then why bill me??), or....on and on. It drives you nuts. You have to advocate for yourself from start to finish and if you can't, find someone who will do so for you.

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JD's avatar

Ultimate agenda? Coward and Piven Strategy in steroids. To dilute whitey with third worlders who would never assimilate. To replace the domestic victim voting block they lost (blacks and Hispanics) to MAGA by opening borders and importing victims and luring them with government handouts (cloward/piven) and giving away our SOCIAL SECURITY MONIES that we the people paid into. 4 million illegals had social security numbers already.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Hopefully forty million get deported.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

Deportation? Not going to happen. The logistics of moving 40 million people are astronomical and impossible to accomplish. Period. There are just too many to catch, process and send home.

The only solution to this, the only way to get rid of the parasites is to cut off all benefits they are receiving and punishing heavily those who are employing them. Once all benefits of being in the USA are gone and they are starving, then and only then will they return to their home countries. You know, as well as I know, that the Democrats in our government will not permit this to happen.

In other words, they are here to stay. If you aren't fluent in Spanish you'd better start doing DUO Lingo.

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Blackbird's avatar

"...punishing heavily those who are employing them."

Exactly. Ever notice that when there is a big prostitution sting, they make a big deal about going after the "johns", the customers. But when they make a big illegal alien bust, it's only the aliens that get in trouble, not the customers who profit from the illegal labor.

The hundreds of divisions assault troops (many likely well-trained) that we have illegally imported into this country over the past few years will be impossible to round up and deport - if anyone in DC even wanted to. When the time comes, We the People will have the job of disposing of the trash that has been dumped on our communities - with extreme prejudice.

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J. Gan.'s avatar

There have been some steps taken to defund the NGO's assisting and promoting the invasion but I seriously doubt all the bloodsuckers in the NGO's have been kicked out of their money grubbing jobs or their .gov activist jobs.

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Joe Van Steenbergen's avatar

One potential problem that keeps them from really instituting mass deportations is the loss of economic activity that this would generate. Like it or not, illegals generate a sizeable amount of our GDP; without them (not even factoring the cost of mass deportation),the economy as a whole would take a big hit, and no one in DC wants to be responsible for something like that. Just a thought.

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JD's avatar

Re-initiate work requirements for people on the government dole. Didn't slick willy Clinton relax those requirements? NO FREE RIDES!!!!

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Frans Susan Phillips Duncan's avatar

Also, eliminate all free stuff to all the illegals. Many will leave.

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MarshaLouise's avatar

If only…

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Lugh's avatar

Trump is already hinting at amnesty and/or a pathway to citizenship for our "great" illegal alien invaders.

Before he hinted at mass expulsion in order to get elected. But as a Bush 2, that was never really in the cards.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

You might put that pipe down, and turn off the tv. WTF?

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rd3's avatar

He even said to the recently-deported that he hopes they can soon come back legally. What is the difference?

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Ben's avatar

That is to get them to leave with their own feet.

He has also offered incentives to self deport.

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Lugh's avatar
May 14Edited

How about the negative incentive of being in a chain gang building the Wall? Financial incentives are an incentive to keep doing it. Perhaps as part of some migrant labor gig

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rd3's avatar

And will bring them all back in "legally," which amounts to mass amnesty.

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Ben's avatar

There is saying and then there is doing.

The devil is in the details.

He can say this but then he will catch hell if he tries to do it.

Or is this a nod to the h1b visas which is not immigration and has some pretty stringent rules regarding the use and length of stay.

Are you against all immigration?

"Legal" and illegal?

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Ruth Gordon's avatar

The flaws in this argument are such: Sterility-inducing jabs were administered to all races of people all over the world and any child born in the US, as of now, is almost certainly gonna get jabbed. Just because the Dems weren't requiring people sneaking into the country to be jabbed doesn't mean they weren't. Other than several African nations and a few other poor nations (with the exception of Sweden, I believe), the majority of each country's people were jabbed. And don't forget that Jews jabbed themselves at around a 98% rate. Now, will it somehow accidentally align with CP strategy? Perhaps to a degree. But it was not designed or implemented that way.

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MarshaLouise's avatar

When I started reading your post, JD, I immediately thought there was a Freudian slip, “Coward”, but I see it was cleverly intentional.

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Crixcyon's avatar

..."81-percent of the US population submitted to the Covid vaccine shots"...I love being in the minority control group. Just so you know, most of us anti-vaxxers are still alive and ticking, billy boy.

Until ALL mRNA poisons are banned forever, the 1986 vaccine laws are burned to ashes and all childhood vaccines are stopped to undergo placebo trials, nothing has changed within the HHS. No matter how many new "suits" and "white coats" you replace, it is as of today still the same old song and dance of death.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

Thank you.

They're just playing a shell game. I am so disheartened that thinking people actually fall for it.

As I shop at a big national grocery store chain, I still hear Big Pharma commercials BLARING over the loud speakers, loud enough to make sure all the senior citizens can hear, scaring them into believing they are about to get COVID or SHINGLES and to get innoculated IMMEDIATELY. Why isn't this advertising illegal?

I think we all know the answer.

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LWB's avatar

Amen! Here in Portland Oregon those fear-mongers are at it in Safeway and Fred Meyer with constant loudspeakers blaring about shingles and everything else. Plus offering grocery discount for getting jabbed, even printed promotional “coupons” attached to your receipts and big printed display ads by the entrances, etc

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

So here in Boise, we're not much better than in Wokie Wokeland Portland. Good Lord!

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Romgrp's avatar

😦just obnoxious. Driving by cvs and Walgreens they still putting the CV19 jabs are available on there outside electronic billboards.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

I subscribe to Peacock in order to enjoy WWE pay per view events. Yes, I enjoy professional wrestling. It is my guilty pleasure. the PPV events are laden with long periods of ads in between wrestling matches. The majority of the ads are pharmaceutical companies peddling their wares. Every ad preys upon the fears of death for old people and the fear of STD for gay people. It is disgusting.

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Ben's avatar

Or fat shots and diabetes management drugs.

I also see the aids pills on as we wait for the weather to pop up on local news.

Two guys kissing on morning teevee nasty shit.

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Tania's avatar

Mary Rose, why torture yourself by shopping at a "big national grocery store chain" that blares "Big Pharma commercials?" My husband and I decided many years ago that since purchasing one's food is probably one of the most important acts in life if one is interested in maintaining a life of as good health as possible, to shop only where there is at least some semblance of a positive spirit.

"Organic" is at the top of our list; therefore, our "healthy" shopping starts with Natural Grocers which carries ONLY organic produce. Whole Foods is a fun experience for us as we know many of the people there who are on the same page with us concerning "natural health," which includes avoiding vaccines and pharmaceuticals, and then there is Trader Joe's, which, thankfully, has some good items that are organic.

We've been around long enough to go from little "hole in the wall" health food stores to the now numerous food stores offering healthier foods and products because, thankfully, our growing turned-on population has demanded it! And, I don't think that these customers would stand for blaring propaganda.

In good health!

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Cankerpuss's avatar

The earth's water supply, air supply and soils are so polluted that I don't think even organic foods are free from contaminants.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

Where I live, there are a lot of things you can't get anywhere but a grocery store.

Goody for you that you can.

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Kathy Christian's avatar

Yeah, I just heard the shingles commercial last night. Sorry, I didn't have chicken pox when I was a kid, just the German measles.

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Kathy Lux's avatar

You are 100% correct!!! I want them gone, banished and double blind placebo trials for all vax before shooting up our most precious children.

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Lugh's avatar

Bobby is invested in mRNA technology. And when vaccines as a cause of autism was declared off the table, he said nothing. He's thoroughly compromised. Maybe they'll let him make a few changes in regards to food. But there's just too much money in vaccines and on a deeper level, it accords with the Elite's desire to lower the human population. The money making hides this deeper agenda.

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MarshaLouise's avatar

I’m questioning the veracity of your first statement about Bobby, Lugh. How can you know that?

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Lugh's avatar

It came out in the hearings anent his appointment. Look into it

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Blackbird's avatar

Not all minorities are valued equally.

Just sayin'...

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Lugh's avatar

Are they all of equal* value? "Sadly", (wtf?) no.

To us or existentially, in and of themselves.

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MarshaLouise's avatar

Sadly, yes!

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Charles Wemyss, Jr.'s avatar

75% of the American Military aged male cohort are not physically fit enough to be inducted into the services. Many on active duty do NOT meet the height and weight standards for their branches of services. This can made into a Non Judical Punishment offense. But when General Milley was Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff he was so fat and out of shape no bothered to bring the issues of fitness to the fore. How could subordinate commands enforce regulations when the top senior military advisor is out of condition that he could not run a mile or do the other standard requirements demanded of our service men and women. If nothing else RFK, Jr had shined a very harsh light on Americans and their fitness and in a very unique way is nudging the populace to at least think about being more healthy. It’s an up hill climb, one worth making it would seem.

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Charles Wemyss, Jr.'s avatar

Joe, good point, on the NJP, but it is hard to believe that service personnel are not staying in top shape. It goes back to the leadership issue. Fat guy with four stars who everyone knows drinks too much, probably isn’t getting much respect so when he says we have height and weight standards and physical fitness requirements, and demonstrates he is not up to it, well that sends a signal for sure. I suspect whether people like him or not, the SecDef showing up at zero dark thirty to PT with troops sends a signal. I don’t like the current Commandant of the USMC, but do give him credit for overcoming a widow maker hear attack and maxing his fitness test for his age. If nothing else the conversation is starting.

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Joe Van Steenbergen's avatar

Leadership by example; that is what service members respond to most readily. I was in the Marines for almost 35 years and can tell you that the leaders that Marines (and likely other service people) respond to and eagerly follow are those who lead by example. You're right about the detrimental effects of leaders who say one thing but do something else. As for the current Commandant . . . well, I'll reserve judgment.

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Charles Wemyss, Jr.'s avatar

Marines always respond to good leadership. 1/2 2nd MarDiv was a train wreck in early 1979, Show me a lousy battalion and I will show you a lousy Bn. Commander. Lt. .Colonel John “Dong Ha Bridge” Ripley took command and zoom off to the races! We over in 3/2 marveled at how fast he shaped those guys up, and they were prime for it, just needed his steady resolute leadership. You can’t ding a Marine for grooming standards, if you need a haircut. Both the 38th and 39th CMC’s have been major disappointments. If you thought PX Kelley was political animal…well these two clowns, nough said.

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Joe Van Steenbergen's avatar

I don't pay as much attention to the goings on in the Corps as I used to do, mostly owing to health issues that command my focus most of the time. That said, my sweetheart does (she retired from civil service about the time I did, after 30 years, mostly spent with us Marines), and she alerted me to the extensive changes the Corps was implementing recently. I was not impressed, and I think, if fully implemented, they might fuel the oft-spoken idea that we no longer need a Marine Corps. Time will tell. All things considered, I honestly cannot imagine what life in the services had devolved into; it must be a nightmare, especially for leaders who are trying to do right by the people they lead. I often take comfort in my retired status, though I do mourn for those who are on active duty today.

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Charles Wemyss, Jr.'s avatar

Joe, FD2030 is a disaster and has been from inception. Those “officers” and consultants who put it together had to sign non disclosure agreements. They used fancy words like “Stand In Force” aka SIF and these Marine Littoral Regiments were to fire shorter range, sub sonic decades old rocket technology at Chinese warships that would of course make themselves sitting ducks for our brave Marines. Think Wake Island and Guam or the whole Japanese’s Imperial Army and Navy strategy of Island strong points as a reference. All of the former commandants have come out against it, as well as Generals like Paul Van Riper and Anthony Zinni. Berger and Smith have just ignored the notion of Maneuver Warfare and reduced force levels across the board. To your well made point we are at the moment without enough amphibious lift and even we get “there” have no armor, reduced artillery, no engineers and many other things that make up the ARG/MEU MAGTF so potent. Everyone is focused on a big shooting match with China. Well it did come to pass the Corps would just be a part of a much larger force. In the meantime the MEU/MEB/MEF combat arms capability remains intrinsically valid. There is always going to be some puppet dictator that needs bringing down a notch. I keep waiting for the new SecNav to fire Smith. But, hard to say if Phelan is up to the task. We wait and see!

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Joe Van Steenbergen's avatar

FWIW, it might be a stretch to give NJP to servicemen and women for being overweight. Administrative discharge, a general discharge as opposed to an honorable discharge, might be the best way to go. Sadly, I noticed the other day that 70+ percent of Reserve personnel are obese or overweight, and a significant percentage of active duty personnel are similarly overweight or obese. Seems the recruitment pool of fat people still make into the services, and either stay fat or revert to being fat after recruit training. What a mess!

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JohnT's avatar

So many out of shape young folks these days. I'm 74 and remember how we were in the military. Tough, and didn't g.a.f. If some jag-off suit showed up to PT us in the wee hours, he best bring back up.

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Kathy Christian's avatar

When I was in basic, we took the PT test in uniform, blouse removed, but that was it.

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JohnT's avatar

That would have been a sight to see.

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Kathy Christian's avatar

Bodies. It's a numbers game.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

Our local fire department is populated with men so fat they can barely get into or out of their trucks. When they arrive at the fires the fat chiefs sit in their trucks while the younger fat guys who can still move fight the fires.

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Kathy Christian's avatar

I had a battalion commander who couldn't do a pushup to save his life.

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Lugh's avatar

Most women can't do even one. This is why we need them in special forces. Special as in the Special Olympics.

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NY Nanny's avatar

Why do we need a Surgeon General anyway?? It's just another way for Big Brother to steal our personal liberties.

What were once vices are now habits that the Government doesn't like. Take smoking for example. I don't smoke- it's one of the few vices I don't have- but I can't believe the way the civil rights of smokers have been violated.

The position of Surgeon General is not so much a functional position as much as it is a symbolic post. The Surgeon General isn’t out there treating patients and performing surgeries across the country as the title may insinuate. Instead the position symbolizes a very unhealthy and unnatural relationship between government and citizen. It is the foundation of the dangerous psyop that conditions the minds of Americans to believe that the government should tell you what to do, how to do it, when you can do it, and why. It is the poison seed of totalitarian control that is so cleverly disguised that scarcely a soul questions it.

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Miryamnae's avatar

Indeed. No one ever decided to not buy a pack of Marlboros because a surgeon general made a statement.

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Stanley Yelnats's avatar

The cigarette labels are, perhaps, past their usefulness, but back in the 60s/70s people didn’t know smoking was harmful. In fact, ad campaigns touted smokings’ health benefits. At that time no product had never had such a warning label and the label raised awareness more than anything else they could have done. It was also a slap on the wrist to big tobacco for lying about cigarettes.

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Miryamnae's avatar

You are correct. Big tobacco lied. I was taking a low blow to make the point of why we even need a person in that position. I think America is tired of bureaucrats.

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Lugh's avatar

You mean letting smokers take away the civil rights of non-smokers? Thank God those people were dealt with. Fascism at its best. There IS a natural order. Some things are good and some things aren't. The good should be favored. Smokers are allowed to still smoke, and that's a good thing. Just not in our faces.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

Yeah, it's hard to find pity for the poor smoker whose rights to suck in tobacco smoke and then belch it into the same place I am standing where I have no choice but to breathe it, in are violated. Unlike skin color or sex, people are not born smokers. Every smoker at some point in their lives decided it was a good thing to put the stick in their mouths, light it up and take a deep breath. Nah, I don't have any pity for the poor smoker.

Seinfeld has an episode about the violation of the "civil rights" of smokers. Kramer ends up with his face looking like a catcher's mitt and his teeth as brown as a fresh turd. Such a funny episode.

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RickyRitardo's avatar

"You mean letting smokers take away the civil rights of non-smokers? Thank God those people were dealt with."

Kinda harsh aren't ya' there Lugh? What are you a NAZI or something? Oh, wait a minute.

If I own a bar or restaurant and I want to let people smoke in there that should be my choice not the government. Many drinkers are smokers also. They would all come to my bar so they don't have to go outside in January. If the smoke bothers you, you are welcome to go to the smoke-free bar down the street. It's a free country. Personally I think they should make butts illegal. It'll never happen.Tobacco use means big bucks in tax revenue for the states and loads of sick people for the Hospitals.

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Kathy Christian's avatar

Don't forget that a cut of tobacco taxes goes to the Children's State Health Insurance program, and I don't know where the vape taxes go.

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Lugh's avatar

Yeah that might be alright. It decreases the surplus population. As long as public buildings remain clear of it, it's the sane side of libertarianism.

Hitler spoke against drinking alcohol and eating meat - Once. He knew that it would be ages before the ordinary man was willing and able to hear the message and act upon it.

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Ben's avatar

And yet Hitler was pumped full of all sorts chemicals some of which made him even crazier from his special shots.

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Lugh's avatar

He had a serious heart ailment. He was not destined for a long life in terms of the medicine of the day.

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Ben's avatar

Shame he did not die on WWI.

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Mark Livingston's avatar

My mom quit the month after the Surgeon General's report on Smoking (1965?) my Dad kept smoking for twenty five years. Dad's gone but Mom's still going.

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

Hear! Hear! We don’t need any surgeon general or surgeon private or lieutenant.

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HorizonD7's avatar

I suspect that it is hard to find competent and credible people who are willing to endanger their own situations by taking positions with RFK Jr. that will threaten Big Pharma and the military/industrial complex. Casey Means may be as good as we can get.

Regarding Covid, Kunstler comments ". . . the Covid operation was hatched to run Mr. Trump out of office by enabling epic election fraud . . ." I agree. But I would also argue that what really enabled election fraud was the refusal of ANY court to even consider evidence of fraud and instead tell everyone who brought valid complaints (including many State Attorneys General) that they had "no standing."

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Clyde's avatar

It is natural that frauds would deny their frauds. Asking the "Courts' for any "justice" at the tax payer expense, is like asking the devil to limit his lies to 90%. It's not going to happen when they full well know that these frauds have been and are taking place. The rich and the wicked who are very affluent are always escaping the consequences of their own folly as long as people can be compromised. Whether threatened or bought off, they have sold out their own people to advance their personal welfare.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

Health care and pharma make up 17.6% of the national economy. There is no way on God's green earth that the PTB will permit anyone to come in and shut it all down.

Can you imagine if they found a cure for cancer? Something as simple as drinking a special tea? Can you imagine the economic fall out that would follow? Can you imagine if someone found a cure for diabetes? How many jobs would be lost. Doctors, nurses, research people, drug makers, administrative assistants, contractors, etc. The amount of money that goes into cancer and diabetes research and treatment is horrifically enormous. Even if someone did find a simple cure to cancer or diabetes, it would NEVER be permitted to come to light. Either the inventor would be bought out for billions or he/she would simply disappear without a trace.

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MarshaLouise's avatar

Sad truth!

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shibumi's avatar

If COVID was just about getting Trump out of office, why involve the whole world? Why push the jabs in every first-world nation but ignore places like Africa?

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Renee Marie's avatar

It wasn’t about getting Trump out of office.

It’s much sinister than that.

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Te Burt's avatar

That was just a side-perk. It was genocide of the human race.

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J. Gan.'s avatar

You know the .gov's figured out over the decades they can convince people of absolutely anything under the guise of a public health crisis. Look how many were fooled into accepting an injection that "transfects" all the cells in your body, causing them to then express a NON-HUMAN protein. Rather than genetically altering people, a simple live-attenuated vaccine for those at real risk would have sufficed, but Fauci et.al. had these injections ready to go, according to the DARPA letter - the virus and the "vaccine" were both bioweapon. Why the whole world? Answer: control and depopulation.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

Yap, and Fauci is still out there enjoying is $400,000.00 per year pension in his long awaited retirement. He'll die a free and happy man.

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Renee Marie's avatar

I don’t think he’ll ever be “free and happy”. It’s an illusion.

He sold his soul. That is “hell”.

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Kathy Christian's avatar

Yes, but after that, judgment awaits. Nobody escapes judgment. As they say, you can't take it with you. You are not clothed in judgement. You face it naked as the day you were born. And that's how you go to hell. And that's forever. So, no, nobody ever really gets away with anything.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

I appreciate your positivity and hope that justice will eventually be meted out against the evil, Kathy Christian. Personally, I am sick and tired of the constant deference that God gives to the insanely wicked elements of our society. I really hope you are right and that one day these filthy individuals like Fauci will eventually reap the rewards of their actions.

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MarshaLouise's avatar

But then what? I believe his crimes against humanity will be met with the horrendous consequences he deserves. Evil punishes its own eventually.

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Blackbird's avatar

"Covid" was hatched to run Trump out of office? I don't think so.

If anything, Trump was necessary for the enthusiastic Vaxxing of TDS-sufferers, and the disparagement of alternative treatment options. "Trump wants you to drink pool cleaner!"

"Trump thinks it's a scam? Gimme a double dose!"

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shibumi's avatar

True story:

I know someone who manages clinical trials. When the vaxx was first mentioned while Trump was in office, she was a skeptic. No info in the medical journals, she hates Trump, so... not going to take it.

Fast forward a few months. Her guy gets elected, she gets a gig with Pfi$er and now... she's ALL IN. They are SAVING the WORLD. Got vaxxed herself after having C0VID... because reasons.

She claims her adult son has long C0VID. He seems to be vaxx injured. She is constantly sick. Both took the Moderna vaxx.

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Ben's avatar

I remember that clear as day covid vaccine with Trump in charge nope.

Insert warm Diarrhea brain (Biden) into office and they were fully onboard and down with the covid con job.

Will be interesting to watch them start dropping dead of heart injury and turbo cancers.

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Blackbird's avatar

Even before Trump was out, Democrats I know/knew clung to the words of Fauci - and his white robed disciples - as the voice of a prophet in a dark wilderness of "misinformation". Mask up, stay home, social distance, "Yes sir!" Radical conformists.

Thanks to Trump, more of these precious people have protected themselves with the Vaxx than would have otherwise been the case.

Trump wasn't all bad...

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UncleBob9's avatar

It doesn't help when you have a -- excuse the profane conjecture -- fucking cowardly child-fucker as Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, carrying the water for whoever threatens to expose his perversions and ruin his image, which is all the bastard cares about. Remember, he reportedly screamed at Clarence Thomas that the USSC couldn't look at any evidence of election interference in 2020 or Antifa would burn down the country and execute all nine Justices. Roberts loathes Trump and every aspect of his program, as does the utterly worthless Amy Coney Barrett. Barrett makes David Souter and Anthony Kennedy look like Antonio Scalia clones.

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HorizonD7's avatar

My first awareness of John Roberts was when he wrote the opinion that affirmed Obamacare. I am not a lawyer, but I remember reading that his opinion was legal gibberish. I then saw him interviewed and when he tried to defend the Obamacare gibberish, I thought he looked scared. He gave no impression of courage or expertise, just weasel words.

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Gary Suess's avatar

Casey Means look Manchurian all the way. See my comment below. https://www.kunstler.com/p/maha-hugger-mugger/comment/116776378?r=wtgzi&utm_medium=ios

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Ron Neff's avatar

After learning about the 1st nominated person for Surgeon General I am glad that she was pulled. Hopefully Means will prove her worth. If not, hopefully Trump will not hesitate to fire her.

But....keep in mind that a dead rat would be better than Biden's pick for SG.

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Kathy Lux's avatar

I was highly suspect of the first nominee for Surgeon General, thinking it was perhaps her photogenicity potential that landed her in this auspicious spot, especially after I read her CV. I was totally not impressed by any of it and appalled by most of it. (Her stand on masking, closures, jabs, etc, to list a few) Casey Means, even if she did not choose to maintain the rigorous financial drain that keeping the title MD after her name, still has the knowledge to sit as Surgeon General and although she’s a little on the “New Age” side ( psychedelics as treatments for PTSD) I’ll give her the benefit of the doubt. Functional medicine is how I lean, with a BSN education and experience in the field of nursing and diabetes education. We are, indeed, what we eat.

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MarshaLouise's avatar

Trump is very much influenced by photogenicity, so…

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Author John G. Dyer's avatar

Ah, a call for expert validation right out of the box. You're off to a good start.

Yes indeed, all but the fools in the room are adequately informed regarding what has taken place and what it means.

And I agree, the Trump administration will have to confront the matter head on, no matter what it costs.

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KevinM's avatar

Well Sir you once again were a teacher two words I had to go look up"adroitly" and "miasma".I for one believe that many of the illnesses of today are created in one hand to pass to the other for profit.The choice of Means would be up more my alley than most of the others seeing how the others have had 40/60years to fix the problem.I also would not doubt that a cure for cancer is at hand and has been for decades maybe but treatment/death make more money.

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wkenn's avatar

I (and I'm not alone) have maintained there is more money to be made is searching for a cancer cure than actually finding one.

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Te Burt's avatar

That's because the real cures are easy, simple and effective. No profits there. Now, in many states, ivermectin has become OTC. Just learned that ivermectin horse paste is an effective cure for exzema and psoriasis! Spread the word!

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Cankerpuss's avatar

Yep, I live in Utah and there is a huge cancer research facility in Salt Lake City. Huntsman Cancer Institute. Every year they spend dozens of millions on research but the treatments for cancer are still the same. They still want to burn you, mutilate you and poison you. If you manage to survive they send you a huge bill. If you die, they send it to your estate.

What the hell are those fucking researchers doing up there at Huntsman with all that money anyway?

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Kathy Christian's avatar

Yeah, remember the March of Dimes telethons? You don't hear anything about MS research anymore, do you?

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Cankerpuss's avatar

Nope. Now they just send you an envelope and ask for your money that way.

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Mike Doyle's avatar

This right here

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wkenn's avatar

yup!

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Marty's avatar

"will never tell us what their ultimate agenda was..."

Remember, kiddies, it's not considered water-boarding if you use diesel.

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Ben's avatar

At this point what does it matter. -Hillary Clinton

A term called necklacing came into being in Winnie Mandela's South Africa.

The damn commies know how to get people talking.

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Ron Anselmo's avatar

Thanks, Jim, for keeping "what they call Covid" in your spotlight.

A 19%'er here, along with my immediate family - my wife and two sons, now 21 and 20, but minors at the time - whom I forbade to get shots.

Other family members and many friends made poorer decisions, some costing them their lives sooner than later, and many struggling now.

No one will pay. They're psychopaths of the worst kind - mass murderers with no conscience, bent on genocide, profits and power.

The profits from their grift and graft, will outlive them - in trusts - financing evil in perpetuity after they're gone.

They took my mother, an uncle, losing my father, and I have already lost countless friends. I don't give a fuck what happens in between (nothing), but when my time comes. Even if it means following them straight to hell, I'm taking some with me.

Evil flourishes when good men do nothing - too many good men doing nothing. So, here we are, and here we remain, for lack of courage to do what we know needs to be done to stop it.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Shoot, shoot, then shoot some more.

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Ron Anselmo's avatar

Yessir.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

A lot of good men and women have been deceived by the lust of money and the allure of the filthy lucre of the Earth. It is said that in the last days men's hearts will fail them and many of the elect will be deceived. Deceived by what? The carnal lusts of man. Money. Stuff. Things. All things that moth and rust doth corrupt. Thus leaving their hearts and souls empty, vacuous.

I refused the vaccine. My children are vax free. My wife? Not so much. She refused the "boosters" but had the first two. I still worry about her.

I dream of a day when justice will finally come down upon the heads of the evil fuckers. We are too divided, by design, to unite and fight it. It's heartbreaking.

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Danimal28's avatar

Agree. The brother/sister Means duo went on several podcasts the last couple a years and seemed pretty transparent. Contrast that with Scott Gottlieb... That f*cker should be in jail for sure.

I am glad my family is part of the 19%; our two post-Scamdemic grandkids are vaccine free and never healthier.

The federal government is very deep and corrupt and feckless republicans are a major part of it. They will not codify any good Trump is doing - they are not even putting things up for vote. Scary and embarrassing.

Trump has little liability in the Scamdemic - the American people wanted it(or let it happen).

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The American people may have let it happen but we were assaulted 24/7 (and continue to be) with misinformation/propaganda/gaslighting etc. This has not waned, and no one has been held accountable for it, and from the looks of it, won't be.

I didn't fall for the propaganda, but fear is a massive motivator, and with our mainstream media STILL able to lie to its audience and program and indoctrinate, I honestly can't blame people who were and are susceptible to this. Not entirely, anyway.

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Danimal28's avatar

Totally agree. "Never let a crisis go to waste." is the whole of government motto and it is disgusting.

If I had to hold anyone accountable I would start with Mike Pence who was 'the Task Force' leader and everyone on on down including the CDC, BigPharm, BigEd - everyone.

The bureaucracy is all responsible and will never be held accountable.

Personally, I quiz all medical folks that I see, which isn't much because thankfully I don't need much 'health care'... I quiz them about if they were for the forced 'vaccinations' or not. If they were/are, I move on to the next doctor. It is all we can do.

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grand funk's avatar

I walked into the dry cleaners...msn or such was on the screen..all these deaths from covid bs during the lockdown was the shows theme.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

A return of smith mundt can’t come soon enough.

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Rob Olsen Elder's avatar

Another excellent post. Grateful that the Lord used conservative bloggers, Citizen Free Press and others to warn me and my immediate family to not wear masks and to not take the shots.

Sadly, my brother and sister in law, conservatives, did not listen to my feedback. He had a stroke within months! Impacted his speech. Agree! Evil covid vaccine pushers need to stand trial.

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NY Nanny's avatar

Good for you. My dear husband wouldn't listen to me and he got 3 jabs from the VA. Shortly thereafter he developed Parkinson's Disease. Of course they told him there was no connection. As for me- I will forever remain a Pure Blood when it comes to the mRna gene treatment shots.

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Rob Olsen Elder's avatar

NYN,

So sorry to hear about the impact on your husband. God bless you both. Amen on Pure Blood! May the evil ones receive their just punishment!

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Andrea405's avatar

Same for my husband. He delivered medical supply products like power wheelchairs and beds and had to instruct the patients on its use in their home. Against my warnings that the jabs are ineffective, garbage, with mercury, aluminum, etc, he got the 2x then booster. Even though he stopped getting boosters, he now has arthritis and was tested for suspected leg clots. Thank GOD it was not worse.

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NY Nanny's avatar

Dear Andrea- so sorry to hear your story that is similar to mine. For the life of me I will never understand why husbands will not trust their wives when it comes to certain things like medical and health matters.

In the last 5 years I have done more research on my health problems than most doctors thanks to Chat GPT, Grok, etc.

My husband is 78. The wonderful VA doc told him- don't worry, PD isn't what's going to kill you. Isn't that nice??

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J. Gan.'s avatar

+1 for doing your own research and due diligence!

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Rob Olsen Elder's avatar

So sorry for you and your family Andrea.

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Te Burt's avatar

My brother was similar. Developed prostate cancer 3 yrs after what the VA must've convinced him was essential - the jab - and who knows how many he had! Because I refused (and because I voted for Trump), he refused to communicate with me. I didn't know he had died until the estate lawyer contacted me because of a letter to my brother that he found, or I wouldn't know to this day. Those poisonous traitors have a lot to answer for.

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Te Burt- my heart goes out to you for what happened to your brother. I faced a similar situation because I was the only Pure Blood in our family. Even our adult children were jabbed and our grandchildren as well. Those days were a horror and for awhile they did not want me to be around them because I wasn't "vaxxed".

My mother in law had a bad accident at the height of the madness and she ended up dying alone in the hospital because nobody was allowed to visit except under very restricted circumstances.

Yes, you are right- those bastards have a lot coming to them, if not in this world then in the next. May they rot in hell for all eternity.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

I always laugh at the "vaxxed" being afraid of being around the "unvaxxed." The vaxxed are supposed to be protected by the vax. Why should they fear? It should the unvaxxed that should. When one takes a step back, takes a deep breath and just listens and watches the cluster fuck clown show is staggering. It doesn't take much intelligence to see that we were duped badly from the beginning.

Group think is extremely dangerous. Turns intelligent people into blathering morons.

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Sam A. Morgan's avatar

Yes!! If you're Vaxxed no Corona can harm. Yet, the Vaxxed are the fearful.

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Letsrock's avatar

Yet another prime example of the rampant cognitive dissonance caused by mRNA vax.

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Kathy Christian's avatar

I still remember a man at the checkout one day during the height of COVID who had a huge shopping cart full of nothing but toilet paper. Not long after that, the store limited the amount you could buy at one time.

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Te Burt's avatar

Rotting in hell is too good for them.

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Rob Olsen Elder's avatar

Oh Te Burt! What sorrow. So many in my extended family took the shots. Sister in laws, niece, her husband, two young kids. This evil created huge chasms between friends and family. The owner of the company that I did contract work told me I would not know if the shots worked because I would die of Covid. I am still here and healthy.

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Sam A. Morgan's avatar

Murders. We'll see... Why is Fauci 'Pardoned'?

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Cankerpuss's avatar

Pure blooded and proud of it here. My wife got the first two shots due to pressure in her job but she refused any and all boosters. So far, she's healthy. It's the long term that worries me.

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Andrea405's avatar

Many jabs were saline because enough doses weren't prepared for the original high demand. Evil protocols figured with enough boosters there will be poison in one of them. Most vaxx deaths could be traced to various mfr lots. Pray your wife probably got saline or something "ineffectual". 🙏

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Kathy Christian's avatar

Not everyone got the actual vax. I read that only fifteen percent of every 100 vials were viable vax. So she likely got the inactive vax. And your elected representatives didn't get it at all, in spite of what they liked to show you on TV.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

I don't know. She was pretty sick for a couple of days after the first two doses. Vomiting, fever, headache. There was something nasty in there that didn't do much for her.

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Donna Wilson's avatar

Pureblood here, too. I knew the vaxxx was hinky from day one. Came out too fast, so there was no way they could truthfully claim it was safe =or= effective. That right there was all it took for me to refuse. Then the red flags kept piling up. Stays in the arm--give me a break! The stupidity, it burned. Blank package insert = informed consent not possible. And they changed the definition of vaccine. Then we noted that people took the jab but still got sick, so it clearly didn't work. I also read Dissolving Illusions by Suzanne Humphries and Roman Bystrianyk. That did it. Hard pass on all vaxxxes from now on. Never again will I take a vaxx for any reason whatsoever. Re: covid, I could prevent only one person from taking the jab, and him and me and two others are the only folks I know who didn't run out and get it.

So sorry for everyone relating their stories about their loved ones.

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Kelly G. & The Wild Cats's avatar

I'm ashamed to admit cassidy is my rep. What a piece of garbage. The democrat rat fooled me twice.

It's sickening how often I call his office and get his voicemail. God forbid he hire staff to answer his office telephones. That would take taxpayer money out of his profit? Profit over people, eh? The Rockefeller health "care" plan hard at work. We ALL know the medical "industry" doesn't make money on healthy people. Mentally ill greedy control freaks. Lock 'em up, hang 'em high, and tear down the whole broken system.

Cetainly there are cures locked away in laboratory vaults never to be released.

M.A.G.A. = Make Asylums Great Again.

Sending only positive healing energy, vibrations, frequencies, and prayers, along with truck loads of love, big but gentle hugs, and monolithic tons of PERSEVERANCE always!

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Andy Sutherland's avatar

I will trust no doctor with well health until the grift of vaccines is removed from the system. The pressure that pediatricians put on parents is pretty much all or nothing. A parent must search for their child's doctor if they want to opt out of the early vaccines. (search "We firmly believe in the effectiveness of vaccines" on google, you will get thousands of hits, this boiler plate is used everywhere. It reads like the apostles creed, if you don't accept it, you are out of most clinics)

All antidotal evidence from my experience (5 unvaxxed, 10 vaxxed) with parents with children under 4, that have participated in the current horrific injection schedule and those that have gotten 0 shots are dramatic. Sleep, health, development are all verifiably different. The vaxxed children are frequently sick, sleep poorly, later on developmental milestones, whilst the unvaxed sleep well, rarely need a pediatrician, and are ahead developmentally of their vaxxed contemporaries. Docs that point this out, loose their license. Yes its that rigged. The money is too much. It is sickening to think that every day new born defenseless children are getting multiple covid shots in the first year of life, so the docs can bank $$$ for vaccine compliance. Dam them all to hell.

I use like to use this analogy: Giving your newborn child the scheduled vaccines for the first 5 years of life is equivalent to purchasing a new car, and before it leaves the lot, and over the course of 5 years at every scheduled dealer maintenance appointment, REQUIRING that the mechanic adds a prescribed small amount of sand and metal flakes to the oil, coolant and transmission fluid. Those cars will always have more engine issues than the untreated.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

"It is sickening to think that every day new born defenseless children are getting multiple covid shots in the first year of life"

Even more sickening is to consider that young children were practically immune to everything covid. There is absolutely no need to inject a child with this poison. The evil is so rampant and blatantly obvious is makes my eyes want to bleed.

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Ben's avatar

The sheer number of vaccines babies are getting is criminal.

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Renee Marie's avatar

Excellent commentary! 👍

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Ripple's avatar

Lose their license, not "loose". It's so bizarre that this error is so common. Your comment otherwise has perfect spelling and grammar.

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Andy Sutherland's avatar

Thanks. Should've run it through an AI (spell check doesn't catch it). LOL. I guess mistakes tell you its authentic, maybe that is how we will distinguish authenticity in writing in the future as AI grows.

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tom clark's avatar

AI's gonna put "Q" out of business. Wonder where the old boy (girl?) is?

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Ben's avatar
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He was in his late 80's a couple of years ago.

Probably drooling into his gruel staring off into space now.

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tom clark's avatar

I'm drooling into my gruel and staring into space now and am only in my 70's!

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Craig's avatar

Mr. Kunstler, I consider you an opinion leader so I suggest a difference be made between medical care and health care. I take great care of my health and have not needed medical care.

Anyway Hippocrates said you are your own best doctor. I'm 78 and going strong,

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Andy Sutherland's avatar

Avoid doctors and "well" care at all costs. Get as much sun as possible. Don't wear sunglasses unless operating machinery.

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Lugh's avatar

The Hispanic outdoor workers wear sweats to protect their skin from the deadly sun. And they are much better adapted to it than most of us.

The Yogis says get some sun in the early morning - before it is strong. Only mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the midday sun.

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Andy Sutherland's avatar

As does @DrJackKruse, but in his case it is also to set your body's clock. Common sense must prevail. Only those with a equatorial heritage (very dark skin) can handle mid day sun. However, move them to a high latitude, and they will suffer all kinds of ailments.

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Moistened Bint's avatar

Not the Nepalese.

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Andy Sutherland's avatar

Latitude equator to north pole. Not altitude, but the Nepalese being covered in the cold are somewhat dark skinned. If you dig into Dr. Kruse's work, they generate internal UV light in the cold and pure fat diet. The crux of his work is importance of sunlight and the proof that cells create UV light within you. Listen to the 2 Huberman marathon pod cast and you will learn a lot. https://youtu.be/oK9_j6fa2P4?si=QK90Nk7DNCqy51Xx

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Ben's avatar

Is it really UV light or h2o2?

Yet another thing the media and the left gave Trump endless shit about internal medicine using UV lights.

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Moistened Bint's avatar

Thanks for the info!

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Cankerpuss's avatar

I wear sunglasses because it makes me look cool!

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Renee Marie's avatar

👍💯

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Ben's avatar

This is as much genes as anything else.

George Burns comes to mind drank, smoked and did everything else one is not supposed to do and lived to be.........100.

Not a bad run if you ask me.

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Andy Sutherland's avatar

Maybe nicotine isn't as bad as they say? Anti parasitical?

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Kathy Christian's avatar

Tobacco contains nicotinic acid, which is a B vitamin that's needed by the body. A little-known fact.

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Moistened Bint's avatar

I like to say, "There's health care and then there's Hellthcare."

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