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Flippin’ Jersey's avatar

“Which leads you to wonder, what might Dan Bongino have to say now that he is out of the FBI inner sanctum?”

I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say he isn’t going to say shit. NDAs, threats from the security state, etc. possibly. Oh, he’ll allude to how fucked up DC was/is, but we aren’t going to hear any revelations, ongoing investigations dontcha know.

Cankerpuss's avatar

I agree, Flipper. Bongino is out because he was told by TPTB that if he continues he, his wife, and his posterity will be dead or worse. He realized that he can do no good in the position he's in and he's out now. I also wager that he has been told that after he resigns he can go back to his podcasts and his talk shows but he is not able to utter one syllable about his time as deputy director. They will bind him with a NDA and he will hide behind that NDA. That's the way I see it and I believe that is what has happened. Bongino figured out that the deep state truly is in charge and anybody that crosses it will have their lives and all that they love crushed.

I think Bongino has also figured out that Mr. Trump, unfortunately, is either part of the deep state, a massive psy-op to manipulate the American people, or, he's just a crazy old man who is obsessed with his own personal legacy and really isn't interested in "draining the swamp." Who knows.

Either way, Bongino had an epiphany and he's out. I don't blame him. Not one bit.

Fight the Good Fight's avatar

“Don’t try to understand ‘em, just rope n’ tie n’ brand ‘em”

I suspect that Bongino has been effectively roped, tied, branded and castrated by the Deep State now. Maybe that was Trump’s plan all along. Losing hope fast that there is any integrity available for our cause, whatever that is anyway.

Sorry for the black pills for Christmas but December has been rough so far.

Bandit's avatar

🎶 "Soon we'll be ridin' high and wide." 🎶

Veracious Poet's avatar

That's the "intel communities" song...

Oh, some more entertainment from the "intel community", where Mike Benz breaks it down regarding Jeffrey Epstein:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzdZp11SQMo

*Happy Holidays, From Your Friendly Spooks*

Ben's avatar

I suspect it has way more to do with the wheels of justice not turning at all even slowly.

Type A's have a hard time waiting.

Lugh's avatar

Have to grease the skids then. The oil needed is red.

By British troop movements, the Irish knew they had been betrayed and faced long years of reorganizing. But Pearse said, No, we go forward. We need a blood sacrifice.

JohnAZ's avatar

Bonny Prince Charlie suckered the Highlanders much the same. The Clan culture was destroyed at Culloden.

Lugh's avatar

Good, John. The people who fight back are to blame, not the aggressors. You're a prince. Btw, the Irish rebellion succeeded in case you don't know.

SheilaB's avatar

Blood sacrifices are satanic. Just sayin' ...

Dennis L. Merwood's avatar

God made a human sacrifice of his son.

SheilaB's avatar

Nope, He made a divine sacrifice of His son, once for all time.

But you don't believe in God, so your point is somewhat pointless, Dennis.

Ben R's avatar

Thanks for that response!

James David's avatar

We are going to have to revolt and do the hanging ourselves. Make a list. Check it twice...

Cankerpuss's avatar

People are too afraid to do so. Leviathan is more powerful now than ever.

patrick.net/memes's avatar

Whatever power Leviathan has depends entirely on public support, and they're burning that in a bonfire right now.

Jay's avatar

I think Bongino figured out what Trump figured out the moment a bullet gave him an ear piercing in Butler PA. Nice head you have there, it’d be a shame if something happened to it.

Personally, I think we already lost the war few of us ever knew we were in. They let Trump win to let us down easy.

Occam's avatar

And even if he does tell us stuff, we know tons of stuff already and we've seen no heads roll.

So what, we'll be even more outraged?

Yawn.

Carl L. McWilliams's avatar

Wake up and smell the coffee America: Until Barack Hussein Obama, Valerie Jarrett, John Brennan, James Clapper, James Comey, Peter Strzok, Hillary Rodham Clinton, Mayorkas, Monaco, Rod Rosenstein, Priestap, Halper, Sally Yates, Loretta Lynch, Garland, Christopher Wray, Haynes, Sullivan, Schiff, Warner, Eisen, Elias, Weissmann, Jack Smith. . .etal - do a perp-walk in bright orange jumpsuits, We the People have lost our Constitutional Republic.

Anything else is "hopeium".

UncleBob9's avatar

We lost the Republic when Andy Jackson set in motion the Spoils System. That's led to all kinds of horseshit that's gotten is into wars, destroyed businesses, set up the Fed, and gotten almost everyone caught in the web of government money to one degree or other. That realization causes disillusionment, frustration, and anger and a feeling of betrayal because, no matter who we are or what we do, these motherfuckers are going to kill us all, and there's not a goddamn thing we can do about it. At least we can be amused by all the communist agitators who said diddly shit when Obama and Biden invited insurrections all over the world and betrayed allies, but now stand in snow and rain with placards calling Trump a war criminal, a convicted rapist, a traitor, and a murderer (none of which is strictly true, unless you're a fucking halfwit who believes everything Gayle King and George Stephanopolous flatulate on their morning agitprop shows is more true than anything YHWH ever told a prophet). I suppose it's impolite to wish those bozos experience more bad weather, but they want to fucking kill me for not being a Stalinist or Maoist, so maybe it's okay. They'd get obscene gestures and invective from me, except my wife sadly won't let me use my full vocabulary. Anyway, fuck the Deep State, fuck ohio state, and FUCK ALABAMA!

Cankerpuss's avatar

Love your post. Especially the end. College football is ruined. Thanks to the NIL college sports have become mini pro-leagues. That's why we have perpetuals like Ohio State, Alabama and Oregon. It's a complete and utter joke. Money ruins everything. Absolutely EVERYTHING.

UncleBob9's avatar

Thank the NCAA for screwing student-athletes for decades while making bank. After the antitrust suit, everything swung in favor of athletes. It's wrecked college sports. As for Alabama, ohio state, etc., they make the playoffs because they're popular and bring ad money. I'm amazed ND isn't in the playoffs because of their following, but that may be message for them to join the ACC all the way or either on the vine.

Lugh's avatar

Congratulations. You have attained. You are no longer (if you ever were) that most vile of all things, Capitalist man. And Communism is just the flip side. They worship money too.

Cosmo T Kat's avatar

What's true in your comment about Obama and Biden is also true about Trump. These people are on nobody's side, but their own and their pals who grin all the way to their bank in the Cayman's. They were all paid to do what they are doing to this country because the people who ring the bell want it.

UncleBob9's avatar

Like J AZ, I still think that Trump isn't part if that club. However, I also know he sometimes listens to poor advice (some of it from inside his own head), and spirit beings love to fuck with people and nations to get their rocks off. That's part of what's going on, but obviously not all of it.

Cosmo T Kat's avatar

So, despite his own admission that he is bought and paid for by the Adelsons you are going go out on a limb and say nah, he's really on our side. Are you a Zionist?

james hall's avatar

In 1966, the undefeated and untied Alabama Crimson Tide, led by Bear Bryant and QB Kenny Stabler, finished #3 in the polls, getting snubbed for the national championship despite their perfect 11-0 record, as Michigan State and Notre Dame (who tied each other) leapfrogged them in the rankings, a controversial decision attributed to Southern bias or a reaction to Alabama's 1965 title.

james hall's avatar

Alabama vs Oklahoma kicks off CFP today.

james hall's avatar

Andrew Jackson, the nation's seventh president, believed the national bank concentrated too much power in the hands of a wealthy elite and was unconstitutional. During the "Bank War" with the bank's president, Nicholas Biddle, Jackson issued a potent veto against the bank's recharter bill in 1832, reportedly saying, "The bank is trying to kill me, but I will kill it".

His actions to effectively kill the bank included:

Vetoing the bill to re-charter the Second Bank of the United States.

Ordering federal funds to be removed from the Bank of the United States and deposited into various state banks, effectively weakening the institution.

james hall's avatar

The Indian Removal Act of 1830, signed by President Andrew Jackson, authorized the U.S. government to forcibly relocate Native American tribes from their ancestral lands east of the Mississippi River to "Indian Territory" (present-day Oklahoma) in exchange for their homelands, leading to widespread resistance, broken treaties, immense suffering, and thousands of deaths, most famously the Cherokee's "Trail of Tears," opening millions of acres for white settlement and slavery expansion

Lugh's avatar
Dec 19Edited

Yeah, the Crimson Tide has washed over all. When the Protestants went to pot, the Fighting Irish should have taken this country. Thrown the money changers out of the Temple of the Nation.

UncleBob9's avatar

Fuck the Fighting Irish, too. They refused to to a bowl game when they were excluded from the playoffs. Quitters. Pampered quitters. When the NCAA shafted Georgia a couple years ago, they annihilated Florida State as a way of telling everyone "FUCK YOU!!!" Notre Dame should've done the same thing.

SheilaB's avatar

The Protestants went to pot because (a) they were infiltrated by the Jesuits to reverse the Reformation and (b) because they didn't go far enough to rid themselves of blasphemous Roman Catholic ordinances.

But fear not. The 'harlot daughters' of Revelation are returning to the harlot mother. After centuries of burning alive those who dared defy those blasphemous ordinances, the Papacy decided duplicitous ecumenism would do the trick just as well if not better, during the age of the lukewarm Laodicean church. Or rather Satan decided and his minion in the Vatican put it into effect. Many of the Jews and Muslims will join them, before the world 'marvels at the Beast' in Rome.

Lugh's avatar

Aslan had to die so Edmund could have his sweets. And so many good men have died so you and Piers could have your curry pie.

Annetvenom's avatar

Agree with all you wrote, especially , being a Vols fan, your last sentence.

Steghorn21's avatar

He wasn't supposed to keep his mouth shut out of duty; he was supposed to keep it open out of duty. He did nothing and now his indie podcaster reputation is destroyed.

Cosmo T Kat's avatar

He'll write a book, use anonymous sources, cash-in and disappear.

Ben's avatar

He has to big an ego to just wander off into the sunset.

Cosmo T Kat's avatar

big ego/small dick. I never bought into the Bongino as warrior. By doing nothing he met my expectations as FBI head.

Ben's avatar
Dec 19Edited

We are not talking about Phil here we are talking about Bongino.

Dan at a minimum he had cancer fought it off and returned to work.

One thing about cancer survivors stress is even worse on them than other people.

He has some serious work to put in to regain some semblance of trust with most of his followers.

Lugh's avatar

He needs to send his wife and kids to Russia for asylum. Lock himself in a studio and just start telling the truth over the air. When they shut him down, keep talking online. When they shut that down, satellite, shortwave, etc. When they come for him, he dies fighting. Have a camera in the room that sends the footage online.

Then the real shit begins if he had set up a dead man switch with time released podcasts. A self published book to be released after his death, sworn statements sent to loyal sheriffs and representatives, etc.

FH's avatar

As has been said elsewhere, all worms, no apples in that institution.

Stacey Henderson's avatar

He won’t say jack

He might hint here and there that’s it .

Michelle's avatar

Knowing how these things work (with direct experience) by having previously worked with some of the compliance officers for these very agencies, Bongino will not BE ABLE to say much of anything directly. But knowing Dan, I am sure he will find a way to convey generally how things operate there. Many of these agencies exist for THEMSELVES, and their careers, esp. upper management. And a good portion of the average agents will simply do what they are told to keep their jobs. Personally, I believe this non-sense of not being able to easily fire government employees is much of the problem. Probably the only way to clean up this agency, and all the others, is somehow to change the policy to make it like the private sector, by making all the gov. employees, "employees at-will." Then gradually, but likely substantially, you'd see some real clean-up.

Michelle's avatar

Flippin' - you are likely 100% correct, but a man has to live, and provide for, and protect his family....so yes "we aren't going to hear any revelations.." I'm not saying I am happy about the outcome, and it doesn't mean he's a coward like some idiots are saying; it could just mean he had quickly understood how filthy and unethical and self-absorbed some of these gov entrenched clown agency people are, and think - I am NOT SAYING ALL. I hear these 'whistleblowers' go on and on about their with-held gov benefits, and their vacay time withheld, and all these performative things that the employees seem to focus on - and their job, their time cards, and their this and their that and blah, blah blah. Even one guy who Bongino interviewed some time ago and other definitely wrongly treated agents who spoke out, but, they all talked about how poorly they were treated. I have empathy, but give me a friggin break! Welcome to the world of private business!!! It's called "employee at will" which means a company can fire your ass for ANY REASON, even shite they make up, as though you are the value of a single ply of toilet paper...such as, your new boss decides that they need to let you go cause they have some friend of theirs whose kid, who is a 30 yr old child wants a good paying job, or he "needs" to give your job to a pal from his former company, or, doesn't matter your record, doesn't matter your performance, but your boss favors an unqualified colleague whose personality they like better than yours, or that person is a a total ass-kisser and you are not. I have a close friend who worked in business in the private sector most of his life, he did very well, and for the final 10 yrs of his working life he worked for the gov. He marveled at just how babyish, and complainy the life-long gov employees acted and what they talked about everyday "in the lunch room," "my job" "my accrued vacay time" "my position" "I want to go for x job" "I" "I" "I"....

Thomas's avatar

Can’t really bring any prosecutions in the hopelessly compromised, woked-up, DEI-infested, Trump-deranged DC federal court district — where so many treasonous crimes were committed.

And this, my friends, is why Nothing. Will. Happen. Merry Xmas.

JohnAZ's avatar

Just remember the 100% judicial denial of the 2020 election fraud, every one of them squelched the investigations by Rudy and the gang, and ended up trying to put them in jail. The SCOTUS is the only way to curtail the judges and IMO, they are not acting out their role because they are part of it. Roberts wants no part in a reduction of judicial power at the federal level.

Casey Jones's avatar

Mr Chief Justice Roberts has raised more than his share of eyebrows, eh?

William Wallace's avatar

Didn’t he rewrite Obama Care, “this is what Obama meant to say”?

Thomas's avatar

yeah, he said it was a "tax" and therefore perfectly fine.

OTOH/IMHO's avatar

That's right- he allowed it on a technicality- that it was a tax, not a healthcare mandate, ignoring the fact that all tax bills must, under the Constitution, originate in the House. This from the Supreme Authority(every federal official takes an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution, which would seem to imply that if they were not familiar with it before, they would be sure to catch up on reading it after taking office.)

Phil Denter's avatar

"... all tax bills must, under the Constitution, originate in the House."

You mean like tariffs?

Cankerpuss's avatar

In my opinion, John Roberts is a depraved pedophile and they have blackmailed that filthy sucker sideways. He's probably on that elusive Epstein list. This is one bad dude. He is among the dregs of society, the worst of the worst. The man has no morals, no scruples, no remorse, no guilt. A truly disgusting and vile human being.

JJ's avatar

Barrett might have some illegal adoptions... or child abuse issues...

What a FUBAR.

Lugh's avatar

When pregnant, she adopted two teenage Black African sisters. She said, "I had been looking for something like this." Wtf? Virtue signaling on steroids.

JJ's avatar

Yes... what idiot appointed this woke, corrupt POS?

rd3's avatar

"I had been looking for something like this."

She could have adopted a million and not made a dent.

JJ's avatar

Yes, as did corrupted barrett... and wimp Kavanaugh.

But the worst turd in that odoriferous punch-bowl is the 50 IQ DEI hire, Kunta-Ketangi... who so obviously hates America and especially Whitey.

The fat, sick porker Soto-pig and the bulldyke Kagen are known entities... pure scum.

Cankerpuss's avatar

Interesting how all the "women" on the SCOTUS are the dregs of the court. Women should never be permitted to sit in positions of power like this. Yeah, I said it. I mean that Ketanji thing, couldn't define what a woman is, and she's sitting on the SCOTUS. Embarrassing. Utterly embarrassing.

JJ's avatar

Very true... and they would be dregs in any capacity, let alone on the SCOTUS where they can do, and have done, real damage.

Too bad Trump is now a toothless eunuch, serving Israel and Big Pharma.

Cosmo T Kat's avatar

Just remember the RNC was in on the 2020 election fraud. They were all paid to look away, not make waves, and remain breathing.

JohnAZ's avatar

The RNC or the RINO portion of the GOP who believe in central control? The Fed judiciary owe their allegiance and jobs to the Deep State so of course they are going to fight any investigation of fraud.

The percentage closeness of the Patriots vs. the Gimmes allows the cheating. When the percentage is greater than 2% or so, cheating becomes obvious.

Cosmo T Kat's avatar

No, all of them except possibly Thomas Massie. The tell...............look for who is bought by the Lobby, it's all of them except Massie.

It's not about Patriots or gimmes, it's about the purposeful intent to divide the country sufficient to have each side at each other's throats. Divide and conquer. The cheating happens because no one wants it to stop except a certain percentage of the middle class who really does the heavy lifting.....for everything. The biggest traitors on the right are the Christian Zionists, you know, those pretend Christians who speak in Bible like a drunk babbling about his lost bottle of wine.

SheilaB's avatar

Christian Zionism wasn't even a thing until two Jesuits (Luis de Alcázar and Francisco de Ribera), invented preterism and futurism to interpret Bible prophecy, instead of the correct historicist interpretation They did that to shift the focus off the Papacy, which all the Reformers recognised as the Beast in Revelation.

Cosmo T Kat's avatar

It's been with us for hundreds of years under the name Protestant Evangelicalism. What your speaking of is simple bull shite based on religious intolerance.

Lugh's avatar

Christianity fought against the Judaizers for centuries. It was hard on the early Christians, all Jews, who naturally thought they were better than everyone else. Their elders had to remind them constantly, No you aren't.

Now the Judaizers have conquered, at least in the former United States.

Cosmo T Kat's avatar

How so, can you elaborate? It was not the regular Jews who thought that way it was the elders....specifically the Pharisees, i.e. Money changers.

They have not conquered the USA, they have bought our political class who now do their bidding.

Lugh's avatar

RINO? Ridiculous concept. That's what the Republicans are. The fake resistance.

Kathy Christian's avatar

I've always said for awhile now that the best thing that could happen to the country and the world is if a 12-kt nuke was detonated over Washington.

Thomas's avatar

Let's not get to out of hand, though I realize that you're merely employing hyperbole. A better development would be strict term-limits, nominal pay, no exclusion from social security and Obamacare, no pension, and most important of all, being excluded from investing in the stock market (including mandatory divesture upon taking office). Once all of these perq's are removed, suddenly all of the grifters and liars will go elsewhere to fleece people.

Mun’s Frolick's avatar

A reformation of American character is required, and things are too far gone for such a thing.

Lugh's avatar

Yes, Capitalist man are simply vermin as the National Socialists said.

Cankerpuss's avatar

You dream, Thomas. I like it. But, you know as well as I do that nobody, once in they are in that fancy club, will ever vote themselves out of those posh and cushy benefits the rest of us "citizens" don't get to enjoy.

The only way to change this would be a convention of states and the states themselves can't pull their own heads out of their dark asses to have a convention of states.

We're boned. Period.

Michael  Lynch's avatar

"They'll get it all from you sooner or later 'cause they own this f**kin' place. It's a big club and you ain't in it. You and I are not in the big club. By the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head with their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted, folks. The game is rigged and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. Good, honest, hard-working people: white collar, blue collar, it doesn't matter what color shirt you have on."

- George Carlin

A.M.'s avatar

Or a constitutional amendment, similar to the ERA. I realize that didn't pass--but that process could be utilized. Term limits could be effected by enlightened voters.

Cankerpuss's avatar

And enlightened voters we do not have.

A.M.'s avatar

Yeah, I know. The way it is--it's like we're being drowned in a gunny suck and no one knows it.

Skenny's avatar

You are 100% correct, Thomas. There's also a 100% chance that stuff ain't gonna happen. The entrenched interests are too entrenched. Congress and the judiciary (with very few exceptions) are looking the people in the eye, and saying "there's nothing you can do. We alone wield the power."

Thomas's avatar

Have you seen the bigger piggies

In their starched white shirts?

You will find the bigger piggies

Stirring up the dirt,

Always have clean shirts to play around in

In their styes with all their backing

They don't care what goes on around

In their eyes there's something lacking

What they need's a damn good whacking

Kathy Christian's avatar

Actually, no, I'm not. We no longer have a working justice system and the corruption can't be voted out or prosecuted. Meanwhile, the people keep getting fucked by their elected representatives. It's got to go. They all have to go.

Fight the Good Fight's avatar

And who, exactly, will bring such commonsensical legislation to pass, Thomas?

I’m craning my neck looking for them up on the Hill….

Lugh's avatar

We had hoped Trump would be the man on the White Horse. But he is simply a bad gray champion.

A.M.'s avatar

Here here! That's the serious reform long overdue. Exactly this.

Occam's avatar

And of those two possibilities, ONE is most likely.

Thomas's avatar

We all want to change the world

But when you talk about destruction

Don't you know that you can count me out

Ben's avatar

What a stupid thing to say.

There are a lot of innocent families living in that instant and slow kill radius.

Cosmo T Kat's avatar

Since when did innocent families matter to the USG?

Phil Denter's avatar

Just like Hiroshima and Nagasaki, right?

Ben's avatar

What is the difference dumb ass?

Is there an actual shooting war I am not aware of?

You continue to show what an utter imbecile you really are.

Your TDS must get unbearable to anyone around you consider asking God to remove your mental illness before one of your kids Rob Reiners your ass.

Phil Denter's avatar

Further, DC actually is in a shooting war with "narco terrorists," right?

Phil Denter's avatar

Regardless, I was referring to exactly what you had said, Ben: "There are a lot of innocent families living in that instant and slow kill radius." In that respect, these are the same, right?

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Of course, here in the real world, Kathy Christian was merely "just talk" while Hiroshima and Nagasaki were all too real.

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Criticizing the US nuking Japan before DJT was even born is hardly TDS, Einstein.

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"[C]onsider asking God to remove your mental illness before one of your kids Rob Reiners your ass." What a disgusting thing to say.

May God have mercy on your soul.

Ben's avatar

How many people would have died if a full scale invasion was needed to pacify Japan?

It is a matter of public record they had the civilian population training with bamboo spears and were not giving up.

The answer is Millions and your still a moron.

There is no shooting war at the moment with Venezuela but there will likely be one.

Venezuela has no nukes and no way to get them here so stupid strawman argument brainiac.

As far as your horrible TDS affliction you clearly have it seek help little man.

Lugh's avatar

God said he would spare Sodom if ten righteous men could be found. Lot couldn't find them. So He nuked it from space.

Kathleen's avatar

If, and that’s a big if, we get thru the midterms with the majority, then and only then can these judges be impeached. Trump doesn’t have this privilege. If we do get the majority and still no impeachments, then we really are screwed.

Cankerpuss's avatar

Sounds like you are saying that either way, we are screwed.

Steghorn21's avatar

Not going to happen, Kathleen. You can only win elections by attracting the independents, and the indies who voted for Trump and believed he would fulfil his promises will sit things out in November. As will a lot of MAGA doesn't mean MIGA folks.

Mun’s Frolick's avatar

Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus.

DWEEZIL THE WEASEL's avatar

Nothing may happen in the political realm. But the Gods of Economics will not be mocked. It is only a matter of time (before the end of 2026) when Atlas will shrug over our apocalyptic, almost quadrillion-dollar national debt. Mordor-On-The-Potomac will continue to be Mordor-On-The-Potomac. We are just now burdened with a different set of Orcs. I continue to prep as though Harris and Waltz won because in a way, they have. There is no real justice or closure concerning the usurpation of my God-given rights and honest-earned wealth. My tribe and I are on our own. Enjoy the holidays while you all can. Bleib ubrig.

Kathy Christian's avatar

I love your comparison to Mordor.

BlueSky101's avatar

I agree with you Thomas! I can't figure out what this author thinks of the Trump administration. We know we can't untangle 50 years or more of corruption in a year. There always will be critics.

J. Gan.'s avatar

Hunter Biden laptop and Seth Rich laptops, continue to gather dust in FBI evidence room.

JohnAZ's avatar

Someone, somewhere makes the decision to pursue judicial action against the bad guys. They are aware of the judicial bias they have to deal with. Remember the favorite phrase of the Biden Mob, plausible deniability? It may be working today. The best defense? Do not ever let this scum near the White House or Capitol ever again.

Cankerpuss's avatar

Not going to happen, JohnAZ. The political pendulum is going to swing back to the left in the midterms and then in 2028. Just like it has swung back and forth for the last century and more. Americans have no desire to fix the system. No desire to restore the Constitution. No desire for anything but to be taken care of and provided for. When I hear Americans talk about how "free" we are in this screwed up country, it makes my eyes bleed. People have clue what freedom is and they will vote that scum right back into office. You watch.

Ben's avatar

Either by the insane media lying per usual or a straight up election theft.

JohnAZ's avatar

Ben, it is up to the GOP presence to stop the election fraud. If they do not, either they are involved (think Deep State RINOs) or they just do not give a damn. The Dems have used it since 1960, so they will fight it tooth and nail.

Ben's avatar

There is money to be made being the loser.

I think it all comes down to money and not having to actually lead at this point.

The only thing worse and more worthless than the Republicans are the Democrats.

Time to fire them all and start over with litmus tests and common sense testing.

If they can't pass a security clearance, they don't get the job sorry FANG fANG!

JohnAZ's avatar

Ben, remember that it is really the Deep State vs. the people. Centrists vs. individual rights. It is not GOP vs. Dems any more, it is The Ult-left vs. the MAGA folks. It is individuality vs. Gimmes, folks who give up their freedom to have the security of having the government take care of them. It is socialism against capitalism.

Sidebar- The immigrants came here to get jobs, to get opportunity which their socialist governments took away from them. Imagine their surprise to find out the USA Ult-Left want to turn the USA into the same piece of shit as what they left.

JohnAZ's avatar

My comment said that if the Left gets into power again, there will be no America.The reason, most of the DNC adherents hate the American Constitution and the freedoms and protections it affords. The want central power and Sanders is the 21st century Lenin. If you are right and the majority are dependent enough on the government to vote the scum back into power, we are finished.

Think about the choices in 2028, JD Vance vs.

AOC, Jasmine Crockett, Newsome, Schiff, Pritzker, Sanders, Harris, Pocahontas, Polis, etc. IMO, any of those get into the WH, it is time to leave this country to the dogs.,

Cankerpuss's avatar

According to Breitbart.com, AOC beats JD Vance in a head to head election. Now, I don't agree with any polls, nor do I trust them. Polls are a tool used by the elites to sway election voting. However, they are already beginning the process. Even Breitbart, a supposedly conservative media site, is prepping the people to despair that JD Vance has any chance in winning.

We could very well live to see the day when an uneducated former bar tending horse faced doofus like AOC becomes president. Our system is that sick.

JohnAZ's avatar

Scary, isn’t it.

How many folks in BRICS+ expect that to happen and will fund the effort?

Kathy Christian's avatar

I unfortunately think you're right.

Donna Wilson's avatar

I wouldn't be surprised if those laptops, and all copies they could find, are long gone. I hope they are not, but I can't imagine why they wouldn't be.

Ben's avatar

No the man that turned in the laptop had copies.

There are actual messages up on a website somewhere showing Hunter and his hookers smoking crack and one message where Hunter is begging the pimp to pick up his whore.

He asked her to leave and she wouldn't.

The pimp said she won't leave because you poked her in the butt and have too much crack.

There are hundreds of pages of messages and pictures of this man's terrible rotten teeth.

J. Gan.'s avatar

There is a lot more on the Hunter Biden laptop than photos. I have seen statements indicating there is evidence of a secret deal the Bidens made with dominion in Prague, contracts. Our nation's direction is always at the mercy of how honest the voting machines are. Who the hell has confidence in the machines if they have a freaking wifi connection and are networked? Anything networked can be easily exploited,

Ben's avatar

Yes but that stuff was not posted for obvious reasons.

The embarrassing details however were.

Hunter Biden is almost as big of a piece of shit as his father but at least he did not shower with his teenage daughter instead he railed his dead brothers wife.

Lugh's avatar

Biden wasn't the real president, thus his pardons mean nothing. Does Trump really believe this? He does. So......?

Letsrock's avatar

Along w Epstein videos.

bo1921's avatar

Re: Susie Wiles, "the savviest Chief of Staff to ever haunt the West Wing."

How on earth do you grant interviews with people who hate your guts and would laugh and dance over your dead body - even once - much less eleven times?

Am I missing something here?

Steve S's avatar

Selective editing by Vanity Fair. That is why they won't release the tapes of the interviews.

Damn the torpedoes's avatar

Susie should’ve been recording everything herself, with her staff as witnesses. Rookie. When I was a media director for Boston PD, whenever my boss sat down with the enemy for a tough interview, my staff was present and simultaneously recording. It keeps the editing down to nothing when you have the same tape. And that was in the late ‘90’s!

Vegan Shark's avatar

Before agreeing to the interview, she should have picked up a copy of Vanity Fair to learn the cut of its jib. Or at least had someone brief her on it.

wkenn's avatar

The deep state's gatekeeper.

Karen Snider's avatar

Agreed….I was was dumbfounded that she would do this! Can’t believe she still has her job!

Lugh's avatar

Political Correctness appeals to women in a very deep way. She's PC and appalled by Trump like most women are.

The Victorians called it "respectability". Young people call it being "cool".

SheilaB's avatar

Trump's political incorrectness is entirely irrelevant to anything that matters. What matters is that he is part of the occult elite and his role is that of a Judas goat.

Lugh's avatar

Which one, the good or the bad?

PC has ruined Western Culture. Suicidal empathy like you thing for Syrian boy. You don't remember? Well I do. You claim to know me better than I know myself. Well, I claim the same in regards to you.

SheilaB's avatar

I don't know you better than you know yourself, and certainly not as well as God knows you. And you absolutely do not know me better than I know myself or than God knows me.

I am nevertheless very well aware of a lot of your opinions and thought processes, from over 15 years of interacting with you and reading many more comments with which I have not interacted. And I know that the pursuit of truth is secondary in your eyes to finding an opportunity to insult.

There is nothing wrong with empathy for a 3-year-old Syrian boy. That is normal human compassion. None of the situtation was the fault of the boy, who didn't deserve to die in such circumstances at 3 years of age.

It doesn't mean you have to approve of the western powers deliberately creating the situation in Syria that compelled people to leave. Or that you have to approve of them staying indefinitely in any country where they have taken refuge. As I remember pointing out to you multiple times at the time, the UK did NOT take hundreds of thousands of Syrian refugees. It took a small number and helped many more in situ. By contrast, most of the people now coming to the UK (especially but not exclusively the legal ones) are not even from war-torn countries. And they've apparently forgotten their wives, mothers and sisters, who appear to have been left at home to deal with whatever it is they are supposed to be escaping.

And I didn't defend PC above, but merely pointed out that is is irrelevant to Trump's role as a Judas goat, a role which I believe you also recognise.

Lugh's avatar

Now? You think all the Syrian boys (many in their 20's) were from Syria?

They're at best economic opportunists. Or parasites and criminals. Or worst case, jihadis.

Christianity encourages suicidal empathy. Kindness to "the stranger". As if millions of border jumpers are "the" stranger and not a swarm of locusts. And what about kindness to our own people first and foremost?

The West sickened and died as the Warrior Cult passed away and it reverted to a twisted version of its original form - the universal care and compassion but without the ascetism and longing for the Kingdom which "is not of this world".

JJ's avatar

Wiles is clearly controlled by Israel and Netanyahu. She follows their orders.

IMO, Trump, Kash and Blondi are all compromised/controlled too.

Letsrock's avatar

Israel isn't stupid as everyone who blames the world's ills on them.

Crixcyon's avatar

My New Year's resolution is to ignore the government more than ever. Who needs all this theater and crappola cluttering up their lives?

Marty's avatar

No one is coming to save you. We (collectively) are on our own. Prepare accordingly, as we should have been doing all along. Pray and get right with The Lord. Something wicked this way comes.

Dave Groom's avatar

Note to fellow JHK readers - Kunstler’s latest novel “Look, I’m Gone” is a real page-turner. Finished it in nothing flat which is unusual for me. Hugely entertaining (no spoilers) and timed perfectly for the holidays (meaning, the story itself is set during the holidays). Do yourself a favor and order a copy. You’ll be happy you did.

Damn the torpedoes's avatar

I have to agree. It took me back to the weeks after JFK was shot, when I was a kid and he described perfectly the backdrops of New York City and snowy New Hampshire. A lovely, timely read.

Dave Groom's avatar

While I was still a baby at the time of these events, the novel painted a picture of an NYC and New England that I grew up imagining it to be (note: I'm from the opposite coast).

Susan's avatar

Total agreement. Everything in a novel you could ask for. A perfect union of beautiful writing, great story telling and good cheer. I laughed my ass off. The NY publishing industry hasn’t produced anything this enjoyable in years. Order from Amazon, or enlightened independent bookstores such as Battenkill Books (battenkillbooks.com)and Book House of Stuyvesant Plaza (bhny.com).

Dave Groom's avatar

Yes, yes, and yes to your third sentence. Haven't enjoyed a book this much in a very long time.

Danimal28's avatar

All the corruption starts in the US Senate and their influence(blue slip bullshit among others) over the confirmation process. Only 19/94 US attorneys have been 'appointed'; notice the Lindsay Halligan delay leading to Comey walking free.

As Sundance says "There are trillions at stake."

OTOH/IMHO's avatar

If a murder indictment is misspelled, the murderer does not get a permanent get-out-of-jail card- why is Comey not re-indicted? Pam "No-Arrest-for-the-Wicked" Bondi has a lot to answer for.

Danimal28's avatar

Yep, but the 'Senators' cannot be allowed to hide behind their own illegal processes.

James Mead's avatar

I've said it before and I'll say it again

Nothing will happen to the traitors who turned Trump 1.0 presidency into a fvcking quagmire

James Howard Kunstler's avatar

James Mead-- You cynicism is not cool or clever. Does not make you seem wise, just nihilistic.

Kathy Christian's avatar

And yet, Jim, that's how so many of us feel.

Thomas Madden's avatar

He's just telling the truth, James Kunstler.

James Mead's avatar

Mr. Kunstler I'm neither trying to be cool or clever.

I look at it as Reality.

No one from the Obama administration or the Biden administration will spend one day in prison as a convicted criminal.

I'm also a Christian who believes that things will get worse before Christ returns.

Cheers

Paul B. Cohen's avatar

Christless Christianity claims He’s coming while not recognizing He’s already here and ruling. And puffs its chest out while doing so.

Kathy Christian's avatar

No, He's not here, and this isn't His world, yet.

Paul B. Cohen's avatar

“And behold, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world.”

Did i say the Kingdom of God had taken over from the kingdoms of men? No.

And what makes you think you would recognize Christ’s appearing in the flesh any more than the religious Jews did in the day of His incarnation?

Lugh's avatar

Oh, interesting. What's his name? The Founder of Chabad told his spiritual son, Netanyahu, that he would live long enough to turn Israel over the Jewish Messiah, the one we call the Antichrist.

SmokingPipe's avatar

Basic Christian doctrine for the last 2,000 years has been that Christ will return.

Richard's avatar

“And behold, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world.”

Good quote and one of many that hint/reveal our dual nature.

Thomas 10 Jesus says:

“I have cast fire upon the world, and see, I am guarding it until it blazes.”

Richard's avatar

I would encourage all to read The Gospel of Thomas’s 114 Sayings of Jesus and realize the dual nature of our existance so long denied/ignored/suppressed.

If there was not a balancing force at work (good opposing evil) we would

all have been road kill centuries ago.

Paul B. Cohen's avatar

The shortfall is that you have no revelation of, or from Him, only the teachings of men apprehended by your carnal mind.

Mun’s Frolick's avatar

Pretty pathetic, James. Is dreaming that there will be accountability “cool and clever”?

SmokingPipe's avatar

Exactly. I have been a huge fan of JHK for many years, and agree on the vast majority of things he says, but the blind optimism (which has thus far been proven baseless) mystifies me

Laurie Loo's avatar

Agreed. People forget what our forebears were up against and how few, in comparison to filthy England, they numbered. Yes times have changed and "they're" deeply entrenched, including our (cough) military, but they are not impervious and we are not yet dead. Resignation is a boon to your enemies.

Merry Christmas, JHK. I have LIG on a bedside table, after everyone leaves my home after the holidays, I will have a moment to read it and I'm very much looking forward to that. This year has been.. daunting. And yet we are not gone. Not yet! PS I enjoy your prose and skills at making me double over with laughter, or shed fat tears. Your style hits me in the solar plexus. I'm glad I found your work.

Steghorn21's avatar

But he's right though, Jim.

Thomas Madden's avatar

I think that James likes having lots of readers, and believes that by pretending all these promised indictments are just about to happen, real soon, he will maintain their interest. This nonsense is unnecessary. Mr. Kunstler is an excellent writer with a keen eye as to what is going on in this troubled nation. I have read, and thoroughly enjoyed, the books in in World Made by Hand series. I will keep reading his bi-weekly column, but tire of being told, week in and week out, "Indictments are coming!". . .Days of Thunder. . .James should just be honest with his readers instead. Personally, I believe that Trump will just stop the bleeding, and halt the decline of the US for 4 years, and once he is out of office, things will be back to business as usual. If you saw all the famous liberal elitists at Cheney's recent funeral, hobnobbing and socializing with each other, you can tell, they know that NOTHING is going to happen to them, they are just waiting for the end of Trump's term to get back to undermining and working to destroy the US.

Ernest N. Curtis's avatar

cynic n.: a blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.

Ambrose Bierce

elysianfield's avatar

Cynicism not cool?

Nihilism not wise?

How can the sentient be otherwise?

John Schrauth's avatar

As one who has had the occasional peek behind the curtain, I can see a lot of people are trying to "set things aright" and it must be disheartening for those attempting to do what we are asking for to hear this continuous wah wah wah, they're not doing anything like they do in the 42 minutes of my favorite TV crime show!

Add in the power and resources available to the Conspiracy, billionaire America haters, a political party morphed into a simulacrum of the 1905 Bolshevik criminal conspiracy, plus a media and judiciary obviously infested with fellow travelers and enablers of the Conspiracy. It is not hyperbole to say these investigators and prosecutors have a Homeric and Herculean task, and like Sisyphus from time to time have to start all over pushing the boulder back up the hill, all the while enduring potshots and booby traps from the above mentioned entities.

SmokingPipe's avatar

When I say nothing will happen (and so far have been correct), I'm not saying it because i think these people won't do it (bring justice), it's because i think they can't. We're too far gone regardless of how hard they're trying

Cedric Erle Ward's avatar

JK,

you often come off, in your replies to your readers,

as a real prick

John Schrauth's avatar

Some of the readers he replied to came off as real pricks.

Ben's avatar

Here is a perfect one.

"you often come off, in your replies to your readers,

as a real prick" -Cedric Erle Ward

JJ's avatar

That was a cockroach-type response, Zio-Jimbo.

He only spoke truth... why did that make YOU spot your panties?

Kathy Christian's avatar

Not publicly. Not where it should be.

Kelly Reardon's avatar

This is off-topic...but extremely important:

The COVID mRNA transfection bioweapons MUST be recalled and the inherently dangerous and deadly mRNA transfection platform MUST be banned.

https://tdefender.substack.com/p/chd-asks-fda-to-revoke-covid-vaccine-licenses-petition

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/community/tell-the-fda-to-revoke-licenses-on-covid-vaccines/

"Children’s Health Defense (CHD) is asking the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to revoke the licenses for all Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines.

On Monday, CHD filed a Citizen Petition with the FDA and is urging the public, including healthcare workers, parents and military members, to submit comments on the petition."

Here's the direct link to submit a comment to the FDA about CHD's petition:

https://www.regulations.gov/commenton/FDA-2025-P-6831-0001

Here's the comment that I submitted:

I fully support the petition filed on behalf of Children’s Health Defense requesting that FDA revoke all licensure for COVID-19 mRNA "vaccines" as improperly granted.

The mRNA transfection platform itself is irreparably flawed & inherently dangerous and the platform itself IS the primary problem.

The mechanism of action (using mRNA instructions to turn one’s own cells into foreign non-self “spike protein factories”) IS the primary mechanism of harm. This triggers an immune system attack response, starting with the Killer T-Lymphocyte cells which will target & destroy one's formerly healthy cells, ANYWHERE in the body, that are now expressing non-self proteins...starting a cascade of damage at the deepest biological/cellular level.

Due to the systemic biodistribution properties of the (toxic & inflammatory) lipid nanoparticles, the encased (designed to be long-lasting) n1-methyl pseudouridine modified mRNA can go anywhere in the body, including crossing the blood-brain & placental barriers. The LNP "delivery vehicles" traveled to different parts of the body in different people.

Expressing any foreign non-self protein is fatal to the cell doing the expressing.

Some people will express lots of foreign proteins in vulnerable locations.

Others express less in less vulnerable areas.

The location of expression defines the adverse event: if you get foreign protein expression in your heart cells, you could get myocarditis & experience cardiac arrest; if the expression is in your brain, spinal cord, or peripheral nervous system, you could get one or more of a variety of neurological conditions; if in your eye, possible blindness; if in your ovaries, possible infertility; if in the placenta, possible miscarriage, stillbirth, or birth defects; if in the endothelial cells that line your blood vessels, possible vascular &/or microvascular injuries like clots/microclots or the long white fibrous clots, leading to strokes, heart attacks, or pulmonary embolisms…

If the expression of foreign proteins is in your own immune cells, you could experience immune dysfunction, dysregulation, & suppression including repeated infections, immune tolerance of a pathogenic foreign protein due to antibody subclass switch to IgG4 & increased IgG4-related diseases, T cell exhaustion, interference with & suppression of innate immunity, persistent systemic inflammation, dysregulation of toll-like receptors and reduced cancer surveillance or the suppression of tumor-suppressing immune system activities & cell-signaling (increasing your risk of fast-growing and aggressive cancers). And more…

Pathology reports, including from autopsies, have revealed & confirmed the Killer T Lymphocyte infiltration & destruction of cells, oftentimes in vital organs.

These modified mRNA-LNP genetic transfection injections never would have passed proper safety studies required for gene therapy products. Safety studies (including biodistribution, immunogenicity, immunotoxicity, genotoxicity, carcinogenicity, reproductive toxicity, shedding, long-term effects, & more) that were bypassed because of the mislabeling as “vaccines”. (And because of the EUA & “countermeasure” designations under the Project BioShield Act & PREP Act).

The danger is NOT limited to just getting more COVID “boosters”. ANY mRNA gene “therapy” product that transfects your cells & instructs those cells to produce non-self proteins (ANY non-self protein) will trigger an immune system attack response against your own cells & tissues. This makes EVERY mRNA-based transfection product harmful by design.

This immune response to one's own cells being instructed to express non-self proteins (ANY non-self protein) triggers autoimmune responses, & then T-cell exhaustion & immune system dysfunction, regardless of whether or not the foreign protein is toxic itself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDFUymH-9W8

https://entwine.substack.com/p/the-platform-is-deadly

https://robertchandler.substack.com/p/vaccinated-dead-kruger-lang-morz

https://x.com/newstart_2024/status/1981375686251069797

https://zenodo.org/records/15787612

The immune dysfunction & collapse that has manifested in an unprecedented number of people worldwide, accompanied by surges in autoimmune conditions, chronic infections, cancers, & cardiometabolic disease is unfortunately very real, no matter how much some want to deny what is happening.

This is not speculation. This is measurable — in lymphocyte counts, antibody profiles, T-cell exhaustion markers, & verified clinical outcomes, including deaths.

AND shedding from these mRNA transfection injections IS an extremely serious concern, with some people being affected more than others.

https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/what-weve-learned-from-a-year-of

https://pierrekorymedicalmusings.com/p/shedding-of-covid-mrna-vaccine-components

https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/breaking-study-pfizer-mrna-found

The COVID mRNA transfection shots must be recalled.

JohnAZ's avatar

A cancer is a set of DNA modified cells that lose connectivity to the host and competes and usually wins against controlled host cells. Now realize that studies have already shown that mRNA has the ability to modify, through reverse transcriptase, the DNA of liver cells. Does that not show the ability to create new cancers?

Add on the effect of loading up the body with s proteins over a period of time, causing the memory system of T and B cells to be erased with attrition. Is it any wonder that all kinds of immune disorders occur. Do not even argue virus versus Vaxx either as the S protein assault is the same. At least with the disease, it subsides after a week, not so much with modified S protein producers.

MarshaLouise's avatar

Well done! Thank you.

Lugh's avatar

It is a masterpiece of malice. Some of the best minds in the world must have created it, perhaps not knowing the whole picture or purpose but only their piece. It will continue under Emergency Authorization - the very Long Emergency. The Dry Drunk in the oval office will see to that.

Number 6's avatar

The sad sad truth is that Trump is not who we hoped he would be. He won't deliver on Epstein, or all of the deep state prosecutions, because they got to him. Maybe when he had some time to reflect on his assassination attempt(s), he decided that, "These people are serious!" Maybe when they explained to him that it wouldn't be just him, but his wife and kids as well, he just folded.

And then there were the big donations. "You owe us, you know..." various donors said. As it turns out, he was not who we hoped he would be, and our expectations were indeed grandiose. Maybe they promised him they wouldn't try to make him spend the rest of his short life (post presidency) in prison if he played along.

So now it appears he believes that if he starts a typical American post-WW II war, against a

small, effectively unarmed country in comparison to the US behemoth, the predictable jingoism will kick in and everyone will forget about everything else.

Face it. He wasn't up to the job and he folded. He tried. For a while anyway. Maybe he got tired. Maybe his kids told him they weren't willing to die for the cause, even if he was.

patrick.net/memes's avatar

I'm glad that Trump at least managed to widen the Overton Window, but he has certainly failed to speak out publicly on the millions dead from the dangerous and defective mRNA. Makes him look owned by Pfizer.

JJ's avatar

He has also not spoken out about the 100,000+ innocent slaughtered in Gaza by the vicious pigs of Israel's IDF... based on an Oct 7 false flag...

A slaughter than Trump armed and funded.

He is now a major war criminal... his unprovoked bombings of Iran and Yemen, his extrajudicial murders of Venezuelan "drug" boat SUSPECTS...

Maybe he and Bibi will share a cell someday?

Letsrock's avatar

Not a word either about GAMAS TERRORISTS KILLING BABIES, KILLING PALESTINIANS.

Lugh's avatar

Many of them are killing themselves out of guilt.

JJ's avatar

Yes, and almost of half of Israel is rising up against the Zio-filth...

patrick.net/memes's avatar

It's actually worse than that, because Israel was funding Hamas to prevent Palestinian unity.

But drug boat runners deserve to be blown out of the water immediately upon positive ID. They are killing 100,000 Americans per year.

Vegan Shark's avatar

"But drug boat runners deserve to be blown out of the water immediately upon positive ID. They are killing 100,000 Americans per year."

I hope nobody remembers, but the after the first attack on a "drug boat" I proclaimed on this site my support of the action, international law and national ethics be damned. It was a foolish instant reaction and I kneel in the snow asking forgiveness, like the Holy Roman Emperor at Canossa. (Adapting the historian's old joke, I am neither holy nor Roman nor an emperor.)

"Positive ID"? Depends on who is doing the ID-ing. If it's a trigger-happy president, deliver us from evil.

"They are killing 100,000 Americans per year." Not exactly. A hundred thousand Americans are killing themselves a year. Drug pushers are supplying the weapon. I understand the despair that causes people to take their narco-enabled way out, but it's ultimately their choice to risk their lives for a chemical high that removes them briefly from their wretched circumstances.

Mark you, I'm all for gutting drug runners and dealers. If it's possible to locate them in the vast ocean, it's possible to find them on American soil and arrest or send them to meet their maker. That's not only more efficient -- you can roll up a whole network of these fuckwads, not just a few mariners -- but more in keeping with a rule of law. These distinctions matter.

Lugh's avatar
Dec 20Edited

Do you have any idea what we did to create this nation? Do you think we can save it without breaking quite a few eggs? If we're going to worry about every little egg, we might as well give up.

Societies are maintained by a credible monopoly on force. We have to make some examples since they are now doubting our monopoly.

Also: The weakness of the addict does not excuse the pusher. The predation of the pusher does not excuse the addict.

Vegan Shark's avatar

"Societies are maintained by a credible monopoly on force"? Society is quite an inclusive term. Arguably it includes everyone in a country. If so it's meaningless to talk about every member of a society having a monopoly.

Or is there a subgroup that should have leave to break eggs when it's deemed necessary? What segment of society should have a monopoly of force -- the military? The police? The president? Congress? That would imply civilians or ordinary citizens should turn in all their firearms. But an armed society is not only a polite society, per Robert Heinlein, but the first line of defense against a power-hungry officialdom.

patrick.net/memes's avatar

It's a war. You don't coddle enemy soldiers in a war. You kill them.

The Chinese remember very well how the English flooded their country with opium, and how much it damaged China. This is why China ranks first globally in the number of executions related to drug trafficking.

Vegan Shark's avatar

"It's a war. You don't coddle enemy soldiers in a war. You kill them."

There are different kinds of war. One is the old-fashioned kind where nations or alliances battle against others. One can kill or be killed. But even there, it's not a case of anything goes. Humanitarian protocols like the Geneva Convention try to ensure a measure of civilized conduct among participants.

Other so-called wars are political or social. The war on poverty. The war on terrorism. The war on crime or drugs. Still more than military conflicts, these are hedged about with traditional principles of legal procedure, regardless of whether they involve other nations. Blowing up small boats in international waters, engaged in drug running or not, is self-criminalizing in a country that supposedly values the rule of law.

JJ's avatar

Horseshit.

Who says the murdered boat people were running drugs... any proof offered before the murders? What do you mean "positive ID"?

You DO know that Venezuela has nothing to do with fentanyl, the main stuff that idiots here are killing themselves with...??

And those little boats had no intention of traveling 1500 miles over open ocean... only a damned fool buys that crap.

So the 100,000 being killed is total Trump spin and stone LIES.

This is not about drugs anyway... it is about election theft and OIL.

You usually are not so ignorant.

patrick.net/memes's avatar

They just need to get to the next island to relay the cargo.

What do you think all those similar boats were carrying in similar plastic barrels? It's not oil.

JJ's avatar

Prove it... or don't murder them.

Sounds woke... eh?

If not, how about we murder the terrorists in Israel and their puppets in our congress... look over the AIPAC donation list, let's slaughter the top 30... DEAL???

No proof necessary, trust me, they are enemies.

Kathy Christian's avatar

I think threatening someone's family happens more often than we think. But if anyone showed up at my house to give me such an ultimatum, I'd take him out. I'd go to my bedroom, get my .357, and shoot him. Or her. Then I'd burn the body in the back yard.

patrick.net/memes's avatar

A well-armed populace is the best defense against tyranny.

Nothing else comes close.

JJ's avatar

Tyranny comes in body armor and in large well-armed groups. Often with armored vehicles.

Hard for a well-armed populace to fight it... unless massive coordination is done, bringing MANY together for protection and support and defense.

Kathy Christian's avatar

That's true, and that's where guerilla tactics come into play. Sun Tzu.

Lugh's avatar

Captain Moonlight - Irish term.

JJ's avatar

Very good point!

patrick.net/memes's avatar

Nonetheless, guns remain the most effective defense.

JJ's avatar

Better than nothing...

Perhaps some reverse terror attacks... on the bad guys infrastructure?

Cedric Erle Ward's avatar

Kathy,

Unfortunately, you will have to turn the gun on yourself

to avoid being taken alive, or they will shoot you until their

guns run out of ammo.

But I am in agreement with you...but I'm 81 and don't care anymore

about this life.

Kathy Christian's avatar

True, but it opens the window, does it not?

Cedric Erle Ward's avatar

NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO

Liber8or's avatar

Yes, we all thought Trump was going to save us. (Like buying a boat, the happiest days are when you buy it and when you sell it. ) Not looking forward to midterms and the return of the transgenders and lawfare.

Cedric Erle Ward's avatar

number 6,

You give Trump too much credit.

He's nothing but a GRIFTER.

Always has been.

He only cares for himself, his legacy, and his wealth.

He's a giant PSYCHOPATHIC, NARCISSIST, MEGALOMANIAC

and he will rot in hell along with his father.

Ben's avatar

Bet you beat him there by at least a decade.

Letsrock's avatar

Look closer it's his double.

Steghorn21's avatar

He was the wrong man for the job. Maybe the task of saving America is too big for ANY one man. Maybe too saving it would involve a level of nastiness that few reasonable humans would be willing to commit too. The best hope now is for the whole system to crash so we can begin building something better from the ruins. Easy words to type - and I have a family too - but the last chance of reforming the system from within has gone.

JJ's avatar

He might have been... had he not sold his soul, and betrayed America.

Cankerpuss's avatar

I believe the stress and the consistent badgering cracked him. DJT is an alpha male, no doubt, but he's a human being and no human being is designed to handled so much stimulus as has been heaped upon his head. I admire DJT. I always have and I always will. He's an impressive person. But, he has his limits and his limits have been reached.

I've said this before and I'll say it again. I would love to see DJT hold a national press conference and from the Resolute Desk in the Oval Office sit calmly behind the desk, raise his right hand and extend as far as he can, his middle finger, right at the camera. He would sit there for a few seconds and then say, "fuck you, America. I did my best. I gave it all I could to save our country and all you people did was bicker, argue and fight against me. I'm out." The cameras then go dark and Mr. Trump disappears forever. Gone to one of his private islands where he spends the rest of his days sipping margaritas on the beach surrounded by naked women. I would not blame him at all if he were to do this. He won't do this because of his ego.

That's the way I see it. The stress has broken him. It's too much for one man to handle. It's broken him.

Cedric Erle Ward's avatar

alpha male my ass.

he's a beta pussy bully

who learned how to use

money to badger people

into doing what he wants

or he tries to destroy them.

A true alpha male uses his

powers for the good of people

and society.

Cankerpuss's avatar

"A true alpha male uses his powers for the good of people and society."

According to whom? Since when does an alpha male have to be a good guy? Josef Stalin was an alpha male and he was one of the biggest mass murderers on the planet. Was Mao a good guy when he starved millions of his fellow countrymen?

I disagree. Not all alpha males are warm tender souls whose only concern is the welfare of those around them. That, my friend, Cedric, is a pipe dream and is not based in reality.

Hm's avatar

So true. Cankerpuss. Being powerful is one thing. How you use that power is another issue.

I did find Trump's condolence card to the surviving Reiner's a bit odd. I've received kinder messages from bill collectors, lawyers suing me, and my cousin Frieda - that time I had her deported.

Letsrock's avatar

Have you ever heard the Meathead rant on Trump??? He did end the diatribe w may they rest in peace fwiw.

Cedric Erle Ward's avatar

Trump's comments on the Reiners' deaths

just shows what a truly sick asshole he is.

Absolutely NO COMPASSION for anyone

no matter how horrible the incident was.

He can do no wrong...about anything.

The sign of a very sick mind.

His speech Thursday just amplified

what a compulsive liar he is.

He even quoted incredibly phony statistics

which he always does.

He has no idea of anything factual.

He just blows smoke up our asses continually

making delusional claims not even closely

related to reality

JJ's avatar

Reiner was a sick asshole himself...

But I get your point.

Cedric Erle Ward's avatar

I didn't say alpha males HAD TO BE good people.

But Trump is definitely NOT an alpha male.

He's not even truly a human being.

Cankerpuss's avatar

"A true alpha male uses his powers for the good of people and society."

I guess I misunderstood. My apologies.

elysianfield's avatar

Cedric,

Sooo...there are no "true" alpha" males in prison? In the Ghetto? In the corporate corner offices?

Cedric Erle Ward's avatar

Never said anything like that.

You're grasping for things.

The term alpha male is often applied to any dominating man, especially bullies,[10] despite the fact that dominating behavior is rarely seen as a positive trait for either an ideal date or a romantic partner

elysianfield's avatar

Sooo, there is a fundamental difference between an "Alpha Male" and a "True Alpha Male"?

You gotta help me out here....

Hm's avatar

Hello, elysianfield. Remember me, I was "hmuller' on the previous site. Whatever happened to our beloved resident Nazi, Janos? New name?

But getting back to Cedric. He redefines terms to suit his mood du jour. Ignores consensus definitions; then complains of being misunderstood. In between he showers Trump with curses that would make a Gypsy grandmother blush. My question: are we dealing with a first class mind?

Hm's avatar

Cedric cannot admit he misused and misunderstood the term "alpha male." So we get his tortured tap dance routine. To me it seems like something an alpha male with secretly low self-esteem would do. LOL

Hm's avatar

I think Melania would have a problem with the 'naked women' part. Besides, his penis is about 10 years older than mine, and I'll guess chiefly used to pee 6 times a night.

Cankerpuss's avatar

I doubt it.

Don't care about either of your penises. Just saying.

Letsrock's avatar

Haven't y'all seen the sleight of hand they do in Hollyweird? What makes you think they can't/won't do it on the grand stage? They ALL have doubles. None so blind as those who refuse to see.

JJ's avatar

He sold his soul to Israel. And to Big Pharma. Likely for BIG bucks.

He deserves no credit or admiration... the 100,000 lost souls of Gaza, Lebanon, Yemen and Syria call out for his damnation... he funded and supported their MURDERS.

Steghorn21's avatar

I used to think that, but not now. You imply that the guy really cares about saving America. I don't think he really does - and maybe never did. His tweets show him to be a malignant narcissistic and increasingly unhinged by megalomania. You can think of Reiner what you want, but who in their right mind sends out a tweet like Trump did after Reiner's horrible death? There never was any there there.

Cankerpuss's avatar

Perhaps. But then again, my opinion and yours are conjecture. Nobody really knows what is going on in the head of DJT other than DJT. Yes, his comments on Reiner were very inappropriate, especially coming from a guy whose death would elicit jubilant celebrations from millions. Leftists will pay to piss and defecate on DJT's gravesite.

Humdeedee's avatar

In true conservative republican fashion, we hold our side to higher moral standards than we do the other side. And pay the price for it. DJT tells it like it is and our hair catches on fire. I'm tired of the moralizing about his tweets and his words. It's actions that count and some of his has raised my ire, but I will go to my death, or his, believing that he is a true patriot.

Cankerpuss's avatar

No argument from me. I'm not offended by someone who speaks his mind, even if it is inappropriate. I do question a lot of Trump's lack of action on many pertinent political matters, then again, I also understand that as President, Trump cannot do much without a willing Congress. The President does not make law. So, I don't have very high expectations that much of what he promised will come to fruition. I wish more Americans would hold their Congress accountable. Congress, the biggest failure of the American political system and most people don't even bat an eyelash at it.

Thomas's avatar

Carl von Clausewitz famously observed that war is the continuation of politics by other means. Today, it seems our once-fabled criminal justice system can be added to that maxim. The phenomenon is strikingly odd: everyone sees it, everyone understands it, and yet - with a wink and a nod - it continues unabated.

JohnAZ's avatar

War is the failure of politics. That is why the failure of the Red-Blue dilemma in the country, especially Congress IS a war, Cold so far but getting warmer every day.

Mun’s Frolick's avatar

The corruption of America is staggeringly breathtaking. Its decline and fall tracks exactly that of the Roman republic. Both republics collapsed into failure because of the corruption of manners (i.e. moral and intellectual virtue at all levels of society). That corruption is “democracy” in action, where simpletons and fools (unfit even to govern themselves) vie for election to public office and immortality. Truly, our so-called “representative democracy” could not be more representative of American character.

Cankerpuss's avatar

I used to believe there was a stark difference between the American people and the American system of government. Not so anymore. The similarities are stark.

1. The US Government lives well beyond its means and is saddled by crushing debt. The American people live well beyond their means and are saddled by crushing debt.

2. The US Government, or those in the government, have no morals. The American people, by and large, have no morals. Marriage infidelity is high. Pornography is rampant. People fornicate and use abortion as a means of birth control.

3. The US Government is anti-god. The American people have become less and less religious.

4. The US Government is pro-war. The American people are pro-war putting the troops on a pedestal and worshipping them like heroes when they don't even know why they are making war in poor shithole countries like Yemen.

5. The US Government steals from its people. The American people steal from their fellow Americans by taking welfare they don't deserve, disability they don't deserve or tax refunds on taxes they never paid.

6. The US Government worships death and brings death to innocents. The American people worship death in the entertainment and wholesale support of abortion.

America has the government it wants. I truly believe a righteous people would not tolerate an unrighteous government. That is not the case in America anymore.

I read the other day on Breitbart that Porn Hub, the largest distributor of on line porn has more than 100 million premium subscribers. Think about that and let that one sink in.

Kathy Christian's avatar

True, but you can't expect the people to be any better than their government and vice versa. Virtuosity must start at the top, and presently, that's impossible. Our government is run by ungodly men and women because that's what we vote for. Because they mirror ourselves.

Cankerpuss's avatar

"Virtuosity must start at the top"

I don't necessarily agree with that, Kathy. The Government is OF the PEOPLE. That means that the government is OURS. It is our responsibility. We ARE the creators of that government we are therefore responsible for it. If we do not hold the government accountable, who will?

Virtuosity, in my opinion starts with the people who created the government. You and I cannot steal from our neighbors so the government should not be stealing from us. The authority of the created cannot and should not ever exceed the authority of the creator. That is what we have now.

Because we the people are the government we have a responsibility to bring an unrighteous government down and an unrighteous people will not do so. Only a truly righteous people would do so and our people are not a truly righteous people. Our people are a people ripe for destruction.

"Because they mirror ourselves."

Now that I agree with.

Excellent discussion. Thanks!

pyrrhus's avatar

Let's face it, Pam Bondi is and always was exclusively interested in in Pam Bondi's career. and plans to make a career in the DC sewer, so she doesn't want to annoy and of the sewer's denizens...Her appointment was a disaster...

Liber8or's avatar

IDK...Maybe she is not experienced enough to work in the deadly D.C. Swamp. Not enough experience. Then again, she's not that young, 60-years-old. She was a good AG in Florida. The public is never told the truth about anything going on in Washington.

JJ's avatar

Blondi was corrupted by Israel... likely for millions... what do they care, those vile pigs get billions from the US yearly.

And look at AIPAC's open bribery of our congressmen... appalling!

Letsrock's avatar

She wasn't even a good AG.

Lugh's avatar

A good AG? She indicted Zimmerman who was defending himself against Trayvon Martin. She's hive. Blacks were/are IN so they matter more than Whites.

John Thompson's avatar

I've been saying it for years: Until people start going to prison-if not the gallows- it's all theater.

Howard Skillington's avatar

Yes: all of the skeins of evidence, connections among malefactors, and smoking guns, as diligently and skillfully assembled by our host here, are tantalizing. Always wishing for a different, better world, they raise hopes in us that something - any damned thing - can be done about it all. Fatuous hopes.

The visible tip of the Deep State iceberg suggests a world in which wrongs, once identified, can be righted, and justice can be served. Sadly, our flailing, rotten empire is well past such a point. The visible infrastructure upon which our commerce and daily lives depend may be crumbling, but the hidden infrastructure for graft and corruption has never been more robust, and its iron grip is unthreatened.

Even such egregious evidence as Hunter Biden’s laptop hardly causes the forces of darkness to break out in a nervous sweat. It’s just tossed into the black hole from which no incriminating evidence can escape.

When the midterm elections knock the legs out from under the MAGA movement, US politics will be less frustrating for us, because abundant cause for false hope will be gone.