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Charting The Fourth Turning's avatar

If there were ever a time for Trump and the America First right to drop the gauntlet and strong-arm the deep state into oblivion, it would be NOW. Call me jaded, black-pilled, or whatever you'd like, but based on history, it is doubtful that anything meaningfully resembling justice or a formidable course correction will occur.

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JohnAZ's avatar

The Dems will block any effort in the Senate to make the vote incorruptible as it will mean the end of especially ballot harvesting and illegals voting. Would California turn red without illegal voting?

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A. Guerra's avatar

Great question... you obviously know the answer... I'm old enough to remember when California was one of the more conservative states. The federal courts there lie in the 9th Circuit, which at one time was the bastion of federal conservatism-- 50's, 60's and 70's. Then it became "the land of fruits and nuts."

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Phil Denter's avatar

"Where every fruit's a little nutty and every nut's a little fruity." - Archie Bunker

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Ben's avatar
Nov 28Edited

And every leftist socialist is a "meathead."

The funniest part Canada is further down the rathole than even California!

Try as they might getting medically assisted Euthanasia across the finish line in the scope and manner Canada is now engaging in!

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Dennis L. Merwood's avatar

What's wrong with medically assisted suicide, Ben?

Until you, or a loved one, is in that horrible position you are disqualified from commenting!

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Vegan Shark's avatar

People who denounce medically assisted euthanasia are forcing their own fear of dying onto those for whom it is a great relief.

My mother lived to 95 and her last five years (at least) were hell. She couldn't go anywhere on her own, was totally dependent on others for basic life support. She had terrible insomnia but her doctors wouldn't give her sleep meds because -- wait for it -- they didn't want her to become addicted. She saved up other meds that she could use to dispatch herself but didn't, because she feared they'd fail to kill her but leave her in a vegetative state.

Ben, I wouldn't wish my mother's condition in her last years on anyone. Until you've experienced it yourself or in another, you can't know why for some who are in extremis it's a blessing (with proper safeguards to ensure it's truly voluntary).

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PapayaSF's avatar

Personally I’m fine with it in extreme cases. The problem with Canada is that they are pushing it too hard, especially at younger people and people who don’t have terminal diseases.

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Ben's avatar

I have had to watch a loved one times four go through the process of dying you are disqualified for being a dunce.

I am watching someone die of cancer right now!

Assisted suicide is now 1/3 of the deaths in CANADA!

When does this go from being compassionate to just a way to save money?

They are now talking about doing it to handicapped and mentally ill people as well!

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Tim Pallies's avatar

As a general rule, I think defaulting to free speech is the better course.

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Te Burt's avatar

Of course. Except now the Canadian gov't is offering (insisting?) it to disabled persons, depressed, suicidal teens -- well, you get the picture. "If you ain't perfect, we don't want you using up our resources or waste our time on you." Some will definitely choose it who have no other reason than sick of life or "having a bad day." If I lived in Canada, I might think similarly, given what their gov't is.

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Rosemary B's avatar

yours is a stupid comment.

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Navigator18's avatar

Yes, yes...no person should ever experience suffering. We should kill everyone who suffers. The best way to eliminate suffering is to eliminate sufferers.

Euthanasia is the twin of eugenics. My wife has Cystic Fibrosis and is a blessing to all who meet her. 97% of people with Cystic Fibrosis are now murdered in the womb because, "we don't want them to sufffer."

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Phil Denter's avatar

What a bizarre strawman argument. Nobody said, "We should kill everyone who suffers. The best way to eliminate suffering is to eliminate sufferers."

C'mon! You're better than that. You must be. We all are.

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God bless you and your wife. God has blessed youse with a hard row to hoe. 🙏🏻

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Ben's avatar

Indeed.

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Ron Neff's avatar

Mr. Guerra-----why do you think that the Dem/Marxists made CA a sanctuary state and why do you think they love illegal aliens ? Rush used to always say that if illegal immigrants could never, ever vote, the D/Marxists would be very much against migration.

And.....why do you think Hillary went bonkers after she lost? I am sure she told all of her minions ----- I thought you told me I was way ahead in the polls and I insisted that you steal at least 2 million votes----you idiots stole the votes in states that I did not need them. I would have loved to be a fly on the wall.

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Carl L. McWilliams's avatar

FYI Ron: The banana republic of Colorado is known as "east California".

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UncleBob9's avatar

Colorado -- another former bastion of conservatism ruined by the likes of Pat Schroeder.

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JohnAZ's avatar

You have heard of California granola?

Take out the fruits and nuts and all that is left is the flakes.

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glenn's avatar

Most Americans are unaware of how conservative most of California is, outside of the blue enclaves in SF, LA and Sacramento. 30ish years ago, CA got tired of the Jerry Brown machine and elected Pete Wilson, who was kind of a Trump-lite wrecking ball, and his agenda, way ahead of its time, got a lot of backlash from the entrenched CA bureaucracy.

Can this happen again? Hard to say. With the flood of illegals, widespread TDS infection, the financial support of tech and the woke PR machine of Hollywood, it’s iffy at best. There wasn’t any real pushback during the Newsome recall, where a viable conservative or independent could have taken a lead. Instead, Newsome spent vast amounts of CA tax money defending his crimes and stayed in office.

The palisades fire is another red flag. I would have thought all those vote blue donors watching their houses burn down while Bass and Newsome stood by cackling like idiots would have festered some outrage. Crickets, except for a few conservative influencers.

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UncleBob9's avatar

They probably figured that saying anything could ruin their lives. Especially true of anyone in the entertainment industry, where if you're not an omnisexual communist transsexual who calls normal Americans "fascists" your career is over.

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glenn's avatar

Good point. Having witnessed CA up close during covid, any resistance was met with a brutal response. Most aren’t aware of this, but counties sent out spies to small businesses to make sure “non essentials” were not working. Truly Machiavellian stuff.

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Impatient's avatar

Yes, it would. So would NM and numerous other states. The lawyers I used to work for in NYC always urged me to vote D when I was confronted yet again with blah candidates. They finally told me that it is of primary importance because so many federal judges were appointed by the president. I didn't understand the full implications of this until recent years. I look at their website every so often and have marveled at how many pronoun people are employed by them. My guess is they are being paid by the taxpayers, not my former employers.

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Cindi's avatar

All blue states are blue only because of the big city enclaves, w/ the rural parts of all blue states red. That’s true in NM where I live & all of the other blue states. That’s obvious from the colored map during every federal election where the majority of the entire country is a vast swathe of red w/ small (but heavily populated) ugly blue blobs.

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JohnAZ's avatar

Maricopa County in Arizona is the vast majority of the population of Arizona. It is also a magnet for legal and illegal immigrants from Mexico. With Biden’s Mob in power, was it any wonder we elected two numbskull senators and a crooked governor from the Dems.

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Cindi's avatar

I was born in Tucson, raised in Phx in the 1960s-1970s & graduated from the U of A in 1980, so I’m deeply aware of what has become of Maricopa County (not to mention Pima County)…. Both vastly corrupted since I grew up there.

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JohnAZ's avatar

Been here twenty one years, and it has changed considerably.

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EricStoner's avatar

Fun when they brag about it.

"We did put 235 judges, progressive judges, judges not under the control of Trump, last year on the bench, and they are ruling against Trump time after time after time."

https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1902781423787937922?s=43

This is Norm Eisen and Jennifer Rubin laughing about how Trump had no chance in the Jack Smith J6 case because the DC jury would have been made up of democrats. Norm also somehow knew that his compromised friend Tonia Chutkan would not allow the case to be moved.

https://x.com/listen_2learn/status/1909066546477248788?s=43

This is lawfare coordinator Norm Eisen in February 2021 talking about the upcoming four years of cases that he was going to lead against Trump including bankrupting him (which was the Leticia James case), the Bragg case (which started as the Cy Vance case), and the Fani the fraud Willis case.

He was sure that Trump would be going to prison.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1960159380659417173.html?utm_source=pdfs_mailer&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=alert

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Impatient's avatar

This is exactly why we will have military tribunals in future. Hopefully not too distant. The judiciary is another corrupt branch utilized by the controllers.

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Ben's avatar

Well it would not be blue!

More like a purple around Los Angeles and San Francisco and deep red in the hinterlands.

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CHUCKY's avatar

And that's why the GOP needs to end the filibuster immediately, and the fact that they haven't tells us all we need to know.

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JohnAZ's avatar

Filibuster was made to allow the minority to have a voice, a tool to slow progress of the minority, but not to stop legislation of the majority. The majority rules this country, something the Dems do not like right now. The 60 vote requirement should be abolished.

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JohnAZ's avatar

Slow progress of the majority

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David Veale's avatar

Too bad Trump is actually the deep state's trojan horse. All of the "failures" (such as shutting down the Ukraine war in a day, the "beautiful vaccine", warmongering in Venezuela, forgetting to release JFK and Epstein files, Bondi's anti-2A stance, failure to eliminate pharma advertising...) amount to enemy action, not failures.

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A. Guerra's avatar

Mr. Veale, don't be so quick to judge.... don't forget that Trump's first venture into the Deep State swamp in 2016 turned out to be a fiasco because he thought he was going wading into shallow swamp waters, and it turned out to be as deep as the Mariana Trench. Recall his appointment of Bill Barr as his atty general-- who would've guessed- with Barr's stellar conservative credentials- that Trump was shooting himself in the ass? If Trump's vetting team had bothered to read Barr's Wikipedia page they would have seen that he was George HW's protege in the CIA early in his illustrious career as a CIA atty during the period of time when the HW was turning the CIA into the Medusa Deep State organ that the Clinton's, George W., and Barack Hussein would later inherit-- replete with hundreds of SAPs (Special Operations Programs) each with their wet teams of special assassins and embedded government saboteurs-- Hillary as Obama's Secretary of State had multiple orgasms a week creating murder and havoc nationwide and worldwide- recall the orchestrated murders of the Americans in their embassy (aka CIA headquarters) in Libya. Let's not go that far back-- look at the recent murders of the two National Guard soldiers. Random event? I think not-- turns out that this dude was a Brennan CIA operative during the Biden regime. This is just one miniscule example of a single layer of the Deep State that Trump has "failed" to excise. Instead of everyone whining and complaining about Trump's shortcomings, your prayer of gratitude to your God this Thanksgiving should have been, "Thank you Lord for the extra, very short and small opportunity that you have given me, and all the other wimpy, whiny complainers, for giving us an extra 4 years to git our shit together, buy all the weapons we can (short arms and longarms) plus all the ammo we can, convert our fiat, worthless paper money into gold and other precious metals, and hunker down for the inevitable onslaught that is coming and that has been prophesied for eons.

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Ron Neff's avatar

Mr. Guerra---excellent post. However, you forgot to mention that Trump appointed Sessions as his first AG and he did absolutely nothing to help drain the swamp or fight the deep state until he was fired. Obviously a plant by his RINO friends. And.....Pence who was supposed to be his right hand man and help him, also was a Trojan horse but.....he truly showed his colors at the Cheney funeral when he was so wonderfully happy around all his RINO pals. Disgusting.

Your post was a good reminder to all have forgotten how much the Rs undercut every thing Trump tried to accomplish.

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james hall's avatar

Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III was already a swamp creature. He was elected as Senator in 1996. He ran against my freind. In 1996 Blake, a longtime Libertarian Party member, unsuccessfully campaigned for the Republican nomination for the U.S. Senate seat vacated by the retirement of Howell Heflin. Then Alabama Attorney General Jeff Sessions won the nomination and the seat.

"Sessions was the first sitting senator to endorse Trump and his support was seen as a significant boost to the campaign, particularly among conservative voters. "He formally announced his support at a rally in Madison (near the new Space Command Headquarters), Alabama, on February 28, 2016.

The permanent headquarters for U.S. Space Command will be located at Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville, Alabama, with a decision announced by President Trump in September 2025. The headquarters is in the process of relocating from its interim location at Peterson Space Force Base in Colorado Springs, Colorado, a move that is part of an ongoing debate with legal challenges from Colorado officials. The decision to move the headquarters to Alabama was based on factors such as strategic military value, national security priorities, and cost-effectiveness.

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shibumi's avatar

In business, most of the time employees are not actively trying to undercut their boss and sell him out. They take each other out, not necessarily the boss.

Politics is different.

Trump comes from the world of business.

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Ben's avatar
Nov 28Edited

Lest we forget as it is now turning out there are outside forces pulling levers of power with money and black ops aimed at 'Murica.

CIA style color revolution ops and they appear to be working.

China, Russia, Iran and our very own FBI and CIA seem to be pulling strings.

The rigged voting machines whose source code came from where?

Venezuelan source code still lurks in the bowels of the voting machines being used.

First thing junk the voting machines and start over using paper ballots.

A top to bottom vetting of all federal law enforcement appears to be in order.

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UncleBob9's avatar

Why use paper ballots when we've all been told how much simpler (and high-tech!) the electronic voting machines are? Can younger people operate a pen or pencil well enough to mark a ballot, given their lives revolve around computers and smartphones?

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Lugh's avatar

Probably Israel.

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UncleBob9's avatar

Or the Vatican.

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Lugh's avatar

We have reached concord. The Antichrist will have two seats: The Vatican and the rebuilt Temple.

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Mrs. SOB's avatar

Bravo!

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Al Davis's avatar

I like you style! My style is scorched earth and take no prisoners time. Shoot the fuker 4 to 5 times, if he is still moving shoot him another 4 to 5 times, repeat as necessary until the field is free of threat!

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JackStrawWichita's avatar

If you're dumb enough to think that Trump is a trojan horse after the multiple assassination attempts and endless lawfare, you're too stupid to even drive a car.

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james hall's avatar

We can share the women We can share the wine ...

Jack Straw from Wichita cut his buddy down

And dug for him a shallow grave and laid his body down.

You maybe right. You may be decived.

Stick or Atomatic?

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Ripple's avatar

We used to play for acid, now we play for Clive - Bob Weir, Nassau Coliseum, 1/11/79

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DE's avatar

Do you still have your pet rock?

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Alan's avatar

Trump's claim he could end the Ukraine war in a day was ridiculous, but he finally understood Kellogg is deep state (and exits in January) and that Europe/UK need that war to continue. Epstein files is and always has been an evergreen for the Dems to unroll against Trump. Over 100 victims have already received of $250 million, with more heading their way. Trump either used it as a masterful sting operation, or more likely, he didn't want them released because he was a government informant against Epstein.

No president can just stop Pharma advertising. It would just be another target for lawfare, and lawfare would win in that case. Trump is up against a corrupt judiciary and a senate that is against his program. He needs the senate to pass laws. If you want to see what happens when Trump rushes to do something it blows up in his face, look at how Comey walks with his trial dismissed.

Trump reversed Biden's EO on day 2 of his presidency. That EO anointed only two companies to run AI (one of which would be Anthropic, the other to be named) which mandated censorship of opponents of the government and had over 20 pages of DEI written in the code. That's why anyone on the right was censored during Biden admin and how LLMs when prompted to produce an image of a famous historical figure it would spit out a black George Washington and a female pope. The Genius bill (passed) and the Clarity Act (passed in the House and soon to pass in the senate) made that unlawful. The next administration will need to pass laws to reverse it.

Trump has already re-drawn the geopolitical map by stamping out 8 hotspots and signing multiple bi-lateral trade deals. He is not warmongering in Venezuela. He is cutting off the flow of billion of dollars to the Brits, Brussels and the CIA from narcotic and human trafficking.

If you're going to take potshots from the sidelines, at least take the time to understand the big picture. Follow Rubio, Bessent and Vance on X. Visit the ladies at Promethean Action's YouTube channel where they put everything into context 2X/week. Subscribe to Alex Krainer or E.M. Burlingame on Substack. Or Tom Luongo on X or Patreon. You'll realize very quickly how retarded your Trojan horse comment is.

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Mark Livingston's avatar

Hear, hear! And Venezuela is in our backyard, has been playing footsie with China and Russia, has invaded Guyana which has massive new oil fields. Oil fields the Chinese and Russians want, but, America First, baby!

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Charting The Fourth Turning's avatar

The longer we go without true justice and a meaningful course correction, the more likely it appears that Trump is indeed, wittingly or unwittingly, a Trojan Horse.

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JohnAZ's avatar

If things keep being shut down by the Leftists in the Deep State , the media and the judiciary, Trump will be ineffectual. So far, the border says otherwise, and the war against the cartels in Venezuela also says otherwise.

Think what you think he needs to do and how successful the Leftist PTB have been to block him. Do we need a “fascist” to get things under control? Isn’t today in the USA similar to what was happening in Germany in the 20s and 30s. Is the republic doomed?

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Charting The Fourth Turning's avatar

Look, the left went full Nazi on the country's patriots during the Biden regime. One year into Biden's term, there were countless CONVICTIONS, jail time, arrests, and harsh punishments. No time was spared, no consideration given. It they return to power, they will do the same on steroids. That much is obvious. So, knowing this from recent history, what is the appropriate path to take to save the Republic? If Trump were a true Patriot, he'd be going full Lincoln on the enemies within. If he's a Trojan Horse wimp, wittingly or unwittingly, then yes, the republic is doomed.

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PapayaSF's avatar

Indeed, those are Trump’s options. What surprises me is why anyone thinks Trump is going to wimp out. He can be a hero for the ages, or a failure whose enemies will endlessly pursue him and his supporters. Everything we know about him points to him doing something audacious, clever, a “win" which feeds his ego. Which path do you think he’ll choose?

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Charting The Fourth Turning's avatar

The window for Trump to choose the path we both would like is rapidly closing. At times like these, it is most important to watch what leaders do rather than what they say. The "hero for the ages" legacy angle makes sense considering Trump's vanity; however, one must also ponder that he might place the safety of himself, his family, and his family's legacy before that of the country. Unless you're a true super-hero, you can't blame a man for putting his family first. That's why he needs to go full Lincoln or go home.

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Ben's avatar
Nov 28Edited

When half the country calls themselves, Progressives are out of control and crazy what does it take to get them under control?

When the means are justified by the end goal what is left?

Winning at any cost including the soul of a country using lawfare, jailing people for made up crimes, false flags, assassinations the American left and many outside forces want to destroy America from within.

Call them what you will but crazy comes instantly to mind.

Time to open the nut houses back up one flew over the coocoo's nest style.

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PapayaSF's avatar

On the plus side, “progressives” are nowhere near half the country. MAGA plus friendly centrists outnumber them.

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Lugh's avatar

MAGA is a lie. America First is the Truth.

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UncleBob9's avatar

Dad said he knew around 1950 that our goose was cooked. I've known it since the mid-'90s when we elected Clinton despite his criminality, then reelected him despite more criminality and refused to remove him from office because a) it might tank Wall Street and b) other politicians' activities might be exposed.

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shibumi's avatar

Believe it or not, there are still people out ther-- smart, functioning people who are not that tuned into politics-- that do not know that Clinton is a rapist. We won't even go into their body count.

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Dennis L. Merwood's avatar

How many of those evil "socialists" were under your bed last night, my friend?

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JohnAZ's avatar

The problem with socialism is:

Would you invest money in a numbskull corporation that screws everything up and just continuously runs up debt without ever making a profit.

So why do you want to give any more than you have to, to a government to mis-manage? Newsome, Bass, Schiff, Harris, Pelosi, Brown, all examples of the incompetence that makes government so stupid. California used to be a shining example of capitalism with Silicon Valley and Hollywood. It has cratered to a Gimme state with the only positive in their eyes the increasing homeless and welfare population getting fiat dollars in welfare. Socialism is failing hugely inside the USA. Now Chicago, already in big time debt, is starting UBI to the indigents, AKA illegals. The Dems are insane.

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Dennis L. Merwood's avatar

Socialism Never Worked, eh!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo_AhxOrnfQ

"Everybody is on welfare in this country. The problem is that we all too often have socialism for the rich and rugged free enterprise capitalism for the poor. That’s the problem." –Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

Whenever the government provides opportunities and privileges for rich people, they call it ‘subsidies.’ When they do it for poor people they call it ‘welfare.’

Saying socialism simply doesn't work is honestly disrespectful to the thousands of dedicated sociopaths at the CIA who worked very hard, for a very long time, to make SURE it didn't work out.

The fact is, there is absolutely nothing wrong with Socialism. It simply got a bad rap because of a decades long disinformation campaign by the ultra-wealthy far-right extremists like the Koch family.

Socialism has made the Scandinavian nations the envy of the world! It has also given them the strongest democracies & the best quality of life.

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Sue Don Nim's avatar

None. I shot them all in the head and buried their corpses in the yard.

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Letsrock's avatar

At least his double is

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Ben's avatar

When neither side wants to stop fighting what does one do as an outside observer?

Can't pull the rug out from under Ukraine as Europe still wants Ukraine to proxy war Russia.

None of this happens with a wave of the wand.

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shibumi's avatar

If you look into the work of Emerald Robinson, the Venezuela warmongering might very well be cover for election interference. There's lots of info on her substack; second link is an interview on InfoWars:

https://forbiddennews.substack.com/

https://forbiddennews.substack.com/p/how-2020-was-stolen-how-2024-was

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Lugh's avatar

Yes, those who hold Trump's strings might not want him to really go after the Democrat plotters. Many of them are their own people after all. Blood is thicker than water.....

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E. Grogan's avatar

That is why "military is the only way". IOW, use the military to make arrests (National Guard, which has been happening already) and send them to Gitmo and other military prisons for tribunals. Trump has very recently said this is now starting. Under military code of law, sedition and treason are both punishable by death/execution.

You will need to scroll almost halfway down the page to "Military Punishments for Sedition":

https://splicedonline.com/is-sedition-punishable-by-death/

Scroll down to second heading "Authorized Punishments for Treason":

https://legalclarity.org/what-is-the-military-punishment-for-treason/

It looks like Trump, as commander-in-chief (this title means he is the top guy regarding military and gives the military their orders) has given green light to military to start tribunals and subsequent executions. IN order for military to do this, martial law must be declared - which is why Trump just declared martial law in D.C. for starters.

My dad was a mustang rear admiral, was also in WW2 as personal assistant to Admiral Nimitz and he taught me a lot about how the military works. In addition, his naval assistant was a JAG Corp officer who also taught me a lot about how JAG Corp and military law work. Trump has checkmated deep state IMO.

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Charting The Fourth Turning's avatar

I would venture a guess that what you describe is not only legal, but preferable to watching tanks roll up on the White House lawn as they did at the Kremlin when the Soviet Union fell. It may be so far gone at this point that no one truly has full command of the military, or is willing to use it. I suspect that if the radical left gets back in power, they would not hesitate.

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UncleBob9's avatar

They've talked about exterminating any non-Democrat Americans for decades "to save the country." Why doubt them?

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E. Grogan's avatar

Trump has spent years putting the deep state players away in Gitmo. Many were put in prison his first year in 2017 but it wasn't announced because this is war and in war you never give up your hand and tell the enemy what you will be or are doing. It may look like some of these major players are still alive but they aren't and have been supplanted by actors wearing CIA-created masks, you might notice that some of the politicians are now taller or shorter than they used to be, and if you look closely and compare pictures you will see that earlobes might be different. This has been verified by a number of white hats who know what's going on. Also, the military invited Trump to run for president both in 2012 (he said "no") and in 2016. There is a video of military giving him a special dinner and inviting him to run for president. You might have noticed if you saw Trump's Inaugural speech in 2017, that at one point major players in military showed up at Trump's back, their way of saying "military has Trump's back". Whatever players weren't on board with Trump have been taken down or probably quietly executed for treason. I saw videos of Hillary Clinton and the Obamas being arrested and taken away and those were in Sept./Oct 2017. I spend 12 hours a day for the last 10 yrs researching all this and I've watched Trump for 45 yrs because one day I knew he would probably be president, I've seen him in lots of interviews, that was a question he was usually asked by the interviewer. This is not a normal presidency, A LOT of planning has gone into this for decades. This operation started the day JFK was shot on Nov. 22, 1963 and I'm old enough to remember very clearly that day. I've followed politics ever since - many of us understood on that day that a coup had taken over America and it was terrifying. As the days, months and years rolled by we were proven right. JFK Jr. and Trump were very, very good friends and that was what Trump said in one of his interviews - he knows far more about all that's going on than the public does. There is far more going on than you know - just because it's not on 6:00 o'clock news doesn't mean it isn't happening. This is war and it's been going on for a very long time, deep state is pretty much finished at this point.

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Charting The Fourth Turning's avatar

Q-Anon... I can't. I get how seductive that narrative is, but come on already: it's a frikkin' pysop at this stage. Talk about poisoning the well.

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E. Grogan's avatar

I read every single Q post and much of what is posted is true. Q did say that some misleading had to be done. If you know how to understand the clues, they are all accurate.

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Charting The Fourth Turning's avatar

I get it, but all of you who are all-in or tangentially aligned with any facet of the Q-Anon narrative or variations thereof must admit that you are understandably suffering from Good Guy Derangement Syndrome. Check yourselves regularly, from your initial "buy-in" to where the narrative has currently progressed, and ask yourself: Is this what I initially bought into, or have I been led down a garden path of implausible hopeium?

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Lugh's avatar

And when the Deep State triumphs, you'll know it's just an illusion and that they utterly defeated.

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Lugh's avatar

Deep in yer grog I see.

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Jim Harmon's avatar

Kool story, bro.

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Charting The Fourth Turning's avatar

ON THE SHOOTINGS: Granted, this former Green Beret has, with good cause, a nuanced bias when it comes to Afghan nationals; however, despite such proclivities, he does bring a slew of logical questions surrounding the shooting of the two guardsmen the day before Thanksgiving. Whether you agree with him in whole or in part, or disagree entirely, the questions he raises in 15 minutes are worthy of consideration. https://youtu.be/Ra4MIZ4kIjg

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

If we can’t even go after Big Pharma, we are not going after any crooks and villains … and nobody except a few Substack authors are going after Big Pharma.

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Lugh's avatar

The system can't reform the system after all. If Trump has the receipts and has the military, then he should use them while he still can. Get someone to go on TV and explain to the public once it's all in motion. Not Trump - he's miserable at any kind of logical, fact based expose. Glen Beck excels at it just to name one person.

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Charting The Fourth Turning's avatar

I am in general agreement; however, it would likely take a SPECIAL EMERGENCY BROADCAST that would include a distinguished panel of the most highly trusted (I know, they are in short supply) leaders on both sides of the aisle. Thomas Massie, Ro Kahna, Jeffrey Sachs, John Meirshiemer, Tucker Carlson, or Colonel Macgregor, to name a few. Such a distinguished and somber panel would reflect the much-needed unity our country is lacking. Whether Trump has the leadership to unite the country in such fashion (with people who disagree with him) is doubtful, but if he were a true leader and pulled it off, it might just be what the doctor ordered to save the country.

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UncleBob9's avatar

Kahna is a snake, and Carlson is a Jew-hating kook with an annoying laugh.

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Charting The Fourth Turning's avatar

Two out of six ain't bad. As I said, gathering a group of universally accepted high-trust leaders is all but impossible; they are very much in short supply if they exist at all.

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Occam's avatar

Yup, I'll be over here holding my breath.

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Don Reed's avatar

11/28/25: My estimate is that the "cooking" started on or about November 9th. Caution: Wait until the shakes out after November 29, 2025 before forming a complete and vocal opinion about what this column (and Emerald's) is discussing. What has been charged is plausible, but take your time...

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Charting The Fourth Turning's avatar

Today is the big deadline. Shall I begin holding my breath?

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Don Reed's avatar

11/29/25: Only if you're doing a remake of The Color Purple.

Let's edit this so it's coherent: "Caution: Wait until the shakes out" s/be "Caution: Wait until we see what emerges after November 29...,"

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Breck Breckenridge's avatar

Agreed! See my post on this.

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Suzie's avatar

If we switch out Bondi for Sidney Powell we just might actually see Justice.

Until something like that happens I am not holding my breath.

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Dave Campbell's avatar

I agree she is over her head and needs to go but how would a Powell ever get thru confirmation?

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Kathryn's avatar

Dave: ". . . but how would a Powell ever get thru confirmation?"

When the nauseating stink of the 2020 election fraud spreads far enough, no senators will risk smearing themselves with the stink by opposing a nominee having such outstanding courage, integrity and intelligence.

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Paul B. Cohen's avatar

Powell gave a talk in my town during the Biden administration, before she was lawfared. She is legit and serious as a heart attack.

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Ben's avatar
Nov 28Edited

Uhh the Democrats will stand in opposition just to oppose Trump.

For reference they voted in a Supreme court Justice who refused to answer the question of "what is a woman?"

That one question outed them for being brain dead and brainwashed.

If they are so out of touch with reality they can't even answer a question most third graders can answer, what won't they do at this point?

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DWEEZIL THE WEASEL's avatar

Ms. Powell does not have to get through confirmation as AG if she is appointed as a Special Prosecutor to specifically go after these election fraudster traitors. This woman is the real deal. Read her book: LICENSE TO LIE. It is a sickening eye-opener about the rotten federal judicial system.

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Ron Neff's avatar

Mr. Kathryn----100% correct. There are many Rs who are gutless wonders and are afraid to stand up and say-----HELL YES THE 2020 election was stolen and I am not afraid to tell it to your face. Gutless wimps and a poor excuse for a honest man or woman.

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Lugh's avatar

Mr Kathryn?

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UncleBob9's avatar

You obviously underestimate the Establishment.

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Mark Livingston's avatar

Unfortunately Ms. Powell, who I love, pled guilty under duress, so she's tarnished irretrievably, IMO, of course.

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Suzie's avatar

It’s a pipe dream, I know, especially since Congress still hasn’t confirmed a bunch of other DoJ nominees since January!

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JohnAZ's avatar

Give me a reason to say that? What has Bondi done or not done to deserve dismissal?

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Ben's avatar

Its what she has not done.

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ron's avatar

"Not done" is the true question. blondi talks a good game, but lots of things are left undone or screwed up. E.g., bringing back "maryland man" after he was safely stored away.

But sidney powell is a little too loony to be AG.

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Suzie's avatar

The tag of “loony” for Powell was a complete MSM creation and fabrication because she became focused on exposing the 2020 election steal. And what she uncovered is now being corroborated and beginning to see the light of day as we have a Trump administration in place.

She is an outstanding lawyer, with a pitbull attitude, who sees vividly what the Left is and has been doing to corrupt the justice system.

And that’s exactly what we need in an AG and, I believe, completely lack in Bondi.

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Charting The Fourth Turning's avatar

Powell is loony in your mind only because that is how the mainstream media portrayed her. If you follow her career and accomplishments, read her books, and listen to the many talks she has given, you would conclude she is anything but loony.

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ron's avatar

Oh, I have, but lately she has proven to be a little loony later in life. "We're going to 'release the Kracken!'" And it got her into some trouble.

She's been laying low for a while. I'm guessing she's out of the picture for good at this point

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Suzie's avatar

Laying low? She was targeted and decimated by the Left’s lawfare gangs and was nearly ruined, to the point they tried to get her disbarred!

All because what she uncovered in her investigation - an actual Kraken - into the rigged 2020 scared the living bejesus out of them. So they set about to crush her just like they did to anyone else who attempted to expose their crimes.

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ezinmn's avatar

There’s a great thread on X that JHK included in his piece this week from Emerald Robinson. Sydney factors in as one who saw the 2020 election steal early.

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Lugh's avatar

Trump wouldn't even meet her or Flynn at the end. They wanted to keep fighting. Trump realized that the best way to "win" would be to join them - which he did later via Madam Adelson.

It's always all about himself.

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Charting The Fourth Turning's avatar

She caved in fear under the pressure of lawfare, but the "Kracken" stuff was the fuel the mainstream media used to discredit her. As Jim is pointing out in this article, there was indeed cause for concern and alarm regarding what appeared to be outlandish claims. At the very least, we should have had the opportunity to prove them outlandish in a proper court instead of deciding the matter in the court of public opinion. She's likely not a good candidate now because I think she lost her edge after going through the lawfare process, and I can't really blame her. She must have lost a great deal of confidence in the legal system after going through what she did in the 2020 coup.

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Lugh's avatar

Women almost never get it: Any and all political systems depend on the credible monopoly of force. If you are afraid to use it, then you might as well not have it. That's where Trump is now.

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JohnAZ's avatar

Ron the problem is not Bondi inaction, it is the pressure put on her by the elements of the Deep State to stifle real action. Replacing her just shifts the problem to someone else. Bondi has a history of being a real bulldog so maybe she is the best option? I would like to know what pressure changed the Epstein files from “On my desk, ready to be released” to being hidden again.

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Charting The Fourth Turning's avatar

Like Pompeo, Barr, Ratcliff, and Susie Wiles, Bondi has a rather questionable history of nefarious entanglements.

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wkenn's avatar

Ballard alumni includes: Bondi, Wiles

Barr: Bush family fixer, Durham: his guy

Ratcliff: What's he really been doing?

Pompeo: Caution! WP Class of '86, many power grabbers, Esper being another alumni of WP '86 for example

you could make a longer list!

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ron's avatar

Now, by law, they're supposedly going to release "everything," except "the stuff they can't release."

Like you, I wonder why the coverup.

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Ben's avatar

Because what they release can often show what collection techniques are being used as well as capability.

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Lugh's avatar

Over the hill Bondi is still more attractive than Powell ever was. Things like that matter to Trump.

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UncleBob9's avatar

At least he never molested his daughters like Biden diddled his daughter.

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Lugh's avatar

Thanks for that low bar, Bob. Yeah that makes him a great guy!

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Andy Sutherland's avatar

For those including me that basted their turkey.

Yes, there is substantial evidence that basting a turkey (repeatedly spooning or brushing pan juices over the bird during roasting) is ineffective at best and counterproductive at worst. Culinary science and extensive testing support the claim that it is not a beneficial practice.

Key reasons why basting is considered poor technique:

It does not add meaningful moisture to the meat

The skin of a turkey (or any poultry) becomes impermeable once it reaches approximately 140–150 °F (60–65 °C) early in roasting. After that point, juices spooned over the surface largely bead up and roll off rather than penetrate. Tests conducted by sources such as Cook’s Illustrated, Serious Eats, and Harold McGee have consistently shown no measurable difference in breast meat moisture between basted and un-basted birds when using standard temperature probes.

It lowers the oven temperature and prolongs cooking time

Every time the oven door is opened to baste, heat escapes. This can add 30–60 minutes or more to the total roasting time, depending on frequency. Longer exposure to the 200–300 °F danger zone increases the risk of uneven cooking and dryer meat, exactly the opposite of the intended effect.

It interferes with skin crispness

Repeatedly wetting the skin prevents proper browning and crisping via the Maillard reaction. The skin often ends up pale, rubbery, or patchy instead of golden and crackling.

The pan drippings used for basting are better used elsewhere

Those juices and fat are far more valuable for making gravy after roasting than for basting during it.

Evidence from authoritative sources (selected examples):

Cook’s Illustrated / America’s Test Kitchen (multiple tests 2000–2023): “Basting is a waste of time and actually makes the skin less crispy.”

Serious Eats / J. Kenji López-Alt (extensive side-by-side testing): Found no detectable moisture difference and significantly longer cooking times in basted birds.

Harold McGee, On Food and Cooking (updated editions): Explains the physics of skin impermeability and heat loss.

Modernist Cuisine and other professional culinary references: Uniformly advise against routine basting for whole birds.

Exceptions where a modified form of basting can be useful:

Very low-and-slow roasting (≤ 275 °F / 135 °C) or confit-style methods where the skin never gets hot enough to seal.

Starting the bird breast-side down in ample fat and flipping midway (a technique used by some chefs, but this is not traditional basting).

For conventional high-heat oven roasting (325–425 °F / 165–220 °C), the consensus among food scientists and professional kitchens is clear: basting provides no benefit and several drawbacks. Better strategies for juicy turkey include proper brining or dry-brining (salting) in advance, spatchcocking (butterflying), roasting at higher initial temperatures for crisp skin, and simply letting the bird rest 30–45 minutes after roasting.

In summary, the claim that basting a turkey is not a good practice is well substantiated by both empirical testing and the underlying food science.

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JohnAZ's avatar

Thank you for this.

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Dennis L. Merwood's avatar

In the US it's not a bird.

It's a grotesque blob of hormone and steroid injected fat that can't even walk.

Foreigner's look at that in the freezer and go .....WTF?

"You actually eat that!"

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JohnAZ's avatar

Unfortunately, you are right. They also inject lots of saturated fat into the breast to keep it moist. I am surprised RFK,Jr. is not after this.

Think about feed lots with beef, injecting marbling into the meat, AKA saturated fat. It costs big time to get tender beef.

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Lugh's avatar

It takes a tough man to make a tender chicken.

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Ben's avatar
Nov 28Edited

Had a turkey named Studs Terkel who never was injected with hormones nor fed bad food he still got so fat he was not very lively on his feet, but he was not 3/4 of his weight breast meat hanging off.

the rest of my turkeys looked like wild birds and pretty aggressive to boot.

Wild ones are terrorizing towns and neighborhoods all over America.

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Casey Jones's avatar

...and you pay to reheat the oven every time you open it.

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JulieW's avatar

The ‘flipping the bird’ jujitsu move has been outlawed in our household… too many unforeseen consequences

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Andy Sutherland's avatar

Never heard of that turkey cooking technique.. but flipping the bird sometimes happens in heated arguments outside the kitchen. Both have unforseen consequences. Lol

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Lugh's avatar

The Chinese pluck them while still alive. The terror hormones released make the turkey taste better

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Ben's avatar
Nov 28Edited

Much like Halal for Muslim meat cows, goats, sheep maximum terror just before slitting their throats.

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Andy Sutherland's avatar

Sounds like elite adrenochrome freaks who drink terrorized baby's blood. But hey, I buy from a local who kills them. Who would get a turkey from China? Walmart?

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Ben's avatar

There are bags now for cooking turkey in that if setup correctly hasten the cooking time and make the skin crispy!

Amazing turkey as a result.

Speaking of Turkey's I took a drive through the city of Campo and ran into a huge flock of turkey's numbering forty or so birds.

If you don't know it turkeys can be very aggressive attacking people, dogs and cars.

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Breck Breckenridge's avatar

Please Ben. Equating wild turkeys with that "grotesque blob of hormone and steroid injected fat that can't even walk", is just proclaiming your ignorance. Note: I'd like to see some farming of real turkeys for sale.

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Ben's avatar

Please DO POINT OUT where I said a wild Turkey is the same as a captive one.

But for your information I have raised and taken care of Turkeys, chickens, Pheasant, and geese and none of my birds looked anything like what you see on the plate.

I will add wild turkey is like trying to eat rubber bands as is free range birds.

I intend on going back to ranching and farming here pretty quickly as I don't trust or enjoy most of what we are able to buy from standard grocery stores that includes fruits and vegetables as well as meat.

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Lugh's avatar

Franklin wanted them to be our national bird. Notice how Trump doesn't have a national dog in the White House. Wtf, right?

Presidents are supposed to have a wife, kids, and a dog.

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Breck Breckenridge's avatar

I'm glad the Trump doesn't have that dog thing. Look at Biden's monster! Anyway, monster or not, it's just such transparent pandering to the hoi polloi.

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Lugh's avatar

Yes, that's what Democracy is. Can you imagine a bachelor being elected now? Impossible. But a Gay the women would vote for.

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Lugh's avatar

So that give you the right to kill them?

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A. Guerra's avatar

Damn, what an incredible Master's Thesis-- thanks does that... just to add a footnote to an otherwise complete dissertation, I gave up basting years ago and discovered that if I get a horse syringe with a large gage needle and inject the turkey all over, multiple times, with a couple of pints of chicken broth seasoned with extra virgen olive oil, and don't open the oven at all during the baking process, the turkey is tender and juicy beyond belief!

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Andy Sutherland's avatar

I was like, "hey I basted, What is Jim saying" So I asked Grok. That was a copy paste grok answer. No dissertation from me. LOL The technocrats are training me well to trust AI. For this kind of stuff I do, beyond those kind of enhanced google search questions/answers and programming questions, I don't trust it at all. There is a weird agenda with all this AI crazy stuff.

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Lugh's avatar

Why not just cook them in their own blood?

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Thomas's avatar

"Stand your ground. Don’t fire unless fired upon. But, if they want to have a war, let it begin here."

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Damn the torpedoes's avatar

It always comes down to those who count the votes. Until all that the Covid op let loose upon us— mail-in madness, motor-voter, endless illegals—we will never have fair elections again. The democrats always knew this, continue the grift, and republicans chose to lose, and still reap the benefits of uni-party rule. It’s all about the midterms.

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JohnAZ's avatar

Illicit voting? Could that be regulated by the same folks that are bringing us the illicit trades? Are the illicit trades so ingrained into the American scene that it is now acceptable to enough folks to make it legit? If so, we are finished as a moral example to the world. Right, Phil? So I guess trying to stop the illicit trades as Trump is trying to do is a bad thing, right?

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

What do you mean, "illicit trades"? I've never heard that phrase before, that I can remember.

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JohnAZ's avatar

Drugs and human trafficking, prostitution and trading the kids that show up at the border without an adult.

The cartel coyotes in Mexico make a mint transporting illegals to and across the border.

The crime networks in the USA are set up, to take over once they indigents cross the border. I would like to see a study to see how many of these folks end up as homeless and how long it takes.

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FreedomAZ's avatar

Check out Chris Paul with Badlands Media. Former lefty, who will not yield a foot about our FAKE ELECTIONS. I continue to use his powerful logic even to remind myself…….its all fake. It will remain fake:

until elections are 100% transparent to citizen groups for auditing,

Until they happen in one day

Until a valid ID is mandatory

Until a rotating citizen panel signs off on the process

Until the results are independently audited, and the records remain available for additional audits if necessary.

People get worked up by the midterms when the reality is these are just more fabricated fake elections that have “a curious pattern that the party in power always loses seats.” Isn’t that convenient for the UniParty that wants to control the power of the elected executive.

We have problems people, and it literally starts with elections……

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elbowwilham's avatar

Meh. Wake me up when just one person is arrested.

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RevMikeyMac's avatar

Exactly. We just saw a(nother) corrupt judge (but I repeat myself) throw out Comey's case. Will it get refiled? Who knows...but I'm not holding my breath.

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Lugh's avatar

By their fruits you shall know them. Christ cursed the sterile fig tree that produced no fruit. Is Trump just such a tree?

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Tim Hartin's avatar

“Senator (former CIA official) Elissa Slotkin”

Once a spook, always a spook, I’ve always said. At a minimum, the “former” needs scare quotes.

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ron's avatar

Not everyone who works or worked at any of the intel agencies is automatically James Bond.

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Casey Jones's avatar

And Some Of Us aren't all that sure about Mr Bond's politics -- or morals.

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Howard Skillington's avatar

It was obvious on the morning after Senile Joe’s “election” that chicanery had been committed on a massive scale, that it had taken many forms, and that it had been remarkably well orchestrated. As I sought out and readily found numerous reports on this nationwide mischief I started saving links until I had over forty, reported by eye witnesses, many with video documentation.

With the Corporate Media in firm control of the narrative, my liberal friends all scoffed at this mountain of damning evidence, but I had it saved.

Wait! In the days and weeks that followed, those links all vanished, one-by-one – sucked down the memory hole by some impressive coordinated effort to assure that the crime had never taken place.

I hope that this week’s developments signal that proof of election fraud survived, and that the truth may be inarguably revealed, even if the four years of Bidenic disaster can’t be taken back.

Like the gigantic and brilliantly effective January Sixth sting operation, Election Day 2020 demonstrated what the Democratic Party is capable of. They may not be competent at legitimate governance, but they are geniuses when it comes to pulling shit.

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ezinmn's avatar

Read the link JHK included from Emerald Robinson. She lays the entire steal operation out.

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Donna Wilson's avatar

HS, that's depressing that the links disappeared. I watched many vids myself of folks reporting what they saw and indeed there was quite a lot of video evidence of wrongdoing. Some were only a couple minutes of video. Did you happen to see the vid this one idiot made of himself burning a handful of Trump votes (clearly IDed on his camera) while stating "F Trump," or the one made by this other fellow working at a big landfill who'd noticed bags of discarded ballots in the dump, brought it to the attention of his superior, and was told to leave them? Lots of chicanery, but to this day I can't even mention that there was election rigging without getting the ass from friends/family. Revelations in the alt.media are simply still not credible to far too many people.

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Howard Skillington's avatar

All still too true, Donna. And if a scrupulous investigation and court proceeding should reveal the truth, liberals will claim it was fabricated.

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PaxAlto's avatar

A precedent has already been set for tossing "Fedsurrectionist-led" grandmas and grandads into the dungeon for years before their Torqemada trials. I strongly suggest returning the favor for the true insurrectionists and traitors, expediting their capital punishments with the option of post mortem appeals.

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Demeter's avatar

Rope is a lot cheaper, more educational and desperately needed now. Take out the CIA, the FBI, and tell the NSA where it gets off.

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JohnAZ's avatar

Saw a YouTube video yesterday that explained ballot harvesting. This mechanism fills the bill about the description of the final hours of the 2020 election and why the 2024 election was unable to do the same thing. It only works when the election difference is less than say 2%.

Third parties are allowed to collect ballots at say churches or schools and forward them to voting centers, large numbers of votes. In some states, these third parties are not controlled so they can “modify” things as necessary, even create votes or allow illegals to vote. 11 states allow illegals to vote now. It adds up to the ability to do last minute adjustments according to what the results require to reverse the elections. In all cases, these third parties MO is the same, city centers are the last to report, and report overwhelming majorities to the individual that needs to go over the top. A signature is the truckloads of ballots that show up to be counted near the end of voting. This itself is highly suspicious of manipulation. Cities should be the first to report with up to date voting machines. Having an almost totally Leftist judiciary to squelch investigations does not help.

Easy solution, ban third party ballot harvesting. Better yet, photo IDs and paper ballots at voting sites only on Election Day only.

I wonder if ballot harvesting is practiced somehow with Mail-in ballots?

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Yirgach's avatar

It's a Federal Election under Federal, not local law. I don't understand why the President can't mandate paper ballots plus Voter ID plus only US Citizens voting and force all states to follow Federal law in Federal elections. No other country in the world has such weak or non-existent election laws. Part of the problem is the political rift between Red rural areas and Blue urban population centers which helps to perpetuate the imbalance.

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

Congress can make laws affecting the elections that elect the US president and congress. I think there is a bill tied up in the house with the "silent filibuster", which needs to go away.

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Yirgach's avatar

Here is Grok's reply to my question. Needs congressional legislation which will not happen in the foreseeable future. No wonder we are screwed.

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The U.S. Constitution assigns primary responsibility for administering elections to the states, not the federal government as a whole, and certainly not the President alone.

constitutioncenter.org

Under Article I, Section 4 (the Elections Clause), states prescribe the "Times, Places and Manner" of holding elections for Congress, while Congress may make or alter such regulations. A similar structure applies to presidential elections under Article II. This means election procedures—like ballot types, voter identification requirements, and citizenship verification methods—are largely determined by state legislatures and election officials, with federal oversight limited to specific areas like civil rights protections or accessibility standards.

congress.gov

The President lacks unilateral authority to impose nationwide mandates on these matters because the executive branch's role is to enforce existing laws, not create new ones that override state authority.

statecourtreport.org

For instance:Only U.S. citizens voting: This is already required by federal law (e.g., 18 U.S.C. § 611 makes it illegal for non-citizens to vote in federal elections), but states handle voter registration, eligibility checks, and enforcement. The President can't force uniform verification processes without congressional legislation.

Voter ID: Requirements vary by state—some mandate photo ID, others accept alternatives or none at all. No federal statute requires strict Voter ID nationwide, and imposing one would require an act of Congress to supersede state rules.

Paper ballots: States choose their voting systems (e.g., paper, electronic, or hybrid), subject to federal guidelines like those in the Help America Vote Act (HAVA) of 2002, which focuses on standards for accuracy and accessibility rather than mandating specific formats. A presidential directive couldn't compel a switch to paper-only without legal backing from Congress.

Executive orders can direct federal agencies on certain implementation details (e.g., improving federal employee access to voting or studying election integrity), but they cannot legally compel states to adopt uniform rules for state-run elections, as that would violate the separation of powers and federalism principles.

quora.com

Attempts to do so have been criticized as overreaches and could face court challenges. To achieve nationwide uniformity in federal elections, Congress would need to pass a law (potentially under the Elections Clause), which the President could then sign and enforce—though even then, it might face legal hurdles from states asserting their rights.

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Breck Breckenridge's avatar

Trump has always seemed to me to be very hit and miss when it comes to using the Executive authority of the President appropriately, effectively, and which would demonstrate his comprehension of our real problems, and how to really go about fixing them.

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Occam's avatar

Hell, start with enforcing citizen-only voting.

Then add ID requirements.

Then paper voting.

Then let's see what the voting public actually thinks.

It's unimaginable that we've let this happen. The foundation of this country has been severely compromised.

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Lugh's avatar

Then no voting for women. Then no voting for most men. Small moves. But each a big step for Man Kind.

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Lugh's avatar

We built on sand. Or to change the metaphor, we build beautiful sand castles on mud because it was easier than toting all that water up to the sand. Now the tide is coming in to take it all. Think Black slavery. Did we learn anything? Not a thing since we then invited another hostile nation in, namely the Mexicans. Always the easy way, the way of quick individual or corporate profits.

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wkenn's avatar

"Better yet, photo IDs and paper ballots at voting sites only on Election Day only."

This is really the only way.

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Ron Neff's avatar

And.....make all people voting dip their index finger in paint that cannot be washed off. Even Iraq which is a 4th world country----at best----did this in their first supposedly free election but......is apparently too complicated for us.

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Lugh's avatar

Millions of illegals got SS numbers during Biden's reign. So I assume they can vote legally now.

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Donna Wilson's avatar

JohnAZ, I recall reading about so-called mail-in ballots that hadn't even been folded.

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Rob D's avatar

When I was in the military, I remember the oath of enlistment I had to give several times (3 times... once when I joined, once when I started basic training, and once when I re-enlisted). We are sworn to uphold the Constitution *first* and then the orders of the President. I was always told that if I was given an order that was *unconstitutional* then, and only then, could I refuse to follow it. We were not allowed to fire on American citizens "just because" either.

I'm not sure what the intent was when these so-called "public servants" drafted that letter. In a perfect world I'd like to believe they were just reminding military members of their oath to the Constitution. But since we don't live in a perfect world, and I only know of a couple of modern-day politicians that even uphold their oaths, I have to remain skeptical of their intent and wonder what they really wanted to accomplish.

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wkenn's avatar

Keep factions fighting each other, thus leaving them free to pursue globalist goals.

Creating division in the armed forces is one of the latest attempts to create a true civil war on the way to destroying the Republic.

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ArnoldF's avatar

my bet is the average army joe/jane does not know the ins and outs of the Constitution, however they do know the authority of the chain of command. I expect if push comes to shove, they will follow our current President that they know is a loyal American and loves this country.

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Lugh's avatar
Nov 28Edited

The army used their bayonets on Whites protesting forced bussing in Little Rock. They will shoot us on command. No doubt about it for the most part.

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pyrrhus's avatar

This shooter, as it turns out, was a member of CIA death squads in Afghanistan, and reportedly was very disturbed about the number of folks, fellow moslems, he was ordered to kill..They will attempt to cover those facts up....

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Demeter's avatar

And recruited at age 15. And brought here by "Joe Biden".

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Kathy Christian's avatar

Chalk up another death for Joe

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RickyRitardo's avatar

This shooter will probably get a life sentence or perhaps the needle in about 10-15 years after millions $ spent on incarceration and appeals. Perhaps he has some sort of insider info to use as a "trump" card. Either way he's got 5 little jihadists at home to follow in his footsteps when they learn that Uncle Sam took Baba away. I'd guess that his wife and the 5 little one's are living fairly well on our dime out there in beautiful Bellingham, WA.

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Ben's avatar

With any luck some fine convict will shank his ass in prison with a sharpened plastic spoon right in the liver.

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elysianfield's avatar

Saint,

I am sure that Phil is incensed at the jingoistic tenor of you post. Islam is a religion of piece...in my case, a Smith & Wesson. Or two.

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Ben's avatar

Haha good one!

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Ron Neff's avatar

Mr. Ricky---- I would guess that if this muslim is living on the American dime, he probably has more than1 wife.

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Dutchmn007's avatar

The CIA belongs squarely in the crosshairs; they are facilitating the import & redistribution of these “immigrants” for nefarious purposes. “Give’em Hell Harry” Truman’s admin gave birth to this hideous monster, it spawned out of the OSS (Office of Strategic Services under “Wild Bill” Donavan during The Second World War). To his credit JFK was going to “shatter it into a million pieces” & look what happened to him.

They pull “color revolutions” around the world & yes, here too. Witness 2020: “Joe Biden” wins with 81 million votes? Really? So where are the extra people who apparently didn’t show up for Obama/HRC?

The numbers don’t add up. Never did.

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Night owl's avatar

It isn't just the CIA. The CIA works with the Fabians and the Davos clique. It is an international group of banksters and technocrats wrestling for who gets control once Western democracies have been done in.

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Dutchmn007's avatar

I stand amended! ;<)

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Breck Breckenridge's avatar

Precisely. See my long post.

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pyrrhus's avatar

Meanwhile, Pam Bondi is arguing that the 1934 NFA, a blatantly unConstitutional restriction on the 2d amendment, should be upheld because some firearms are weapons of war...Which is exactly why the 2d amendment was passed, because teenagers with firearms won the war of Independence for George Washington....

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Rob D's avatar

Originally, we were "allowed" to own any kind of firearm or weapon of defense we wanted (*shall* *not* be infringed). Want a canon? Go for it. From the way I understand the intent of the founders, they wanted to make sure that government would never be able to "outgun" the people. How far we've fallen...

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Breck Breckenridge's avatar

Right. I couldn't remember the exact facts but I did read somewhere that Bondi was on the wrong side of the 2nd when in Florida. I gave up on her in that first month of this admin when she obviously wasn't being truthful about the whole Epstein thing.

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Kathy Christian's avatar

What's going to happen is that eventually someone is going to visit justice on these people extrajudicially, since we obviously do not have a functioning justice system in the country. I think that's what they're waiting for. They've been itching for a real insurrection since Jan 6. And since we all know that Marxists don't hesitate to sacrifice their own to further the "struggle," maybe these six are bait. How wonderful to be so designated by your own political party.

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Breck Breckenridge's avatar

Right-O. Brandon Smith has been saying this for years! If you can't take over America with one kind of color revolution - use Plan B. A civil war should git 'er done.

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Breck Breckenridge's avatar

On the other hand...see 'Assassin' by Doug Casey and John Hunt.

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Garry Blankenship's avatar

When proof of citizenship is not required to vote in the elections of a country who's country is it ? I feel like some hopeless idealist in seeing the complete lack of logic, common sense and purpose in leftist actions. I see nothing beneficial to our country in constantly creating and triumphing minority-ism. Minority status is ubiquitous and can never not exist. Should a minority achieve majority status, a new minority is born. The left desperation for minority following has digressed into sexual orientation; evidently because too many in the gender, other nationality and skin tone minorities have acquired independent thought. Independent thinking is a wooden stake in the heart of the DNC.

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