"Call me crazy, but I think Dem politicians in LA publicly encouraging riots helps explain why they’re also incapable of issuing building permits for the fires months ago." —Mark Hemingway
"The ultimate goal of this operation is to goad President Trump into declaring some kind of national emergency to put down the violence, and the objective of that is to point at him and holler, “Behold the fascist tyrant!” That’s the game."
So what? They've already squeezed all of the juice out of the "Trump is a Nazi" lemon. Where did this canard get them?
What should be the response to a combustible mix of foreign nationals here illegally and nationals whose avowed goal is overturning not only extant federal and state laws (as they relate to immigration and the overall sovereignty of the United States), but to very much bring the country to its knees (in order to create the necessary conditions to then move on to actual regime change?
A responsible and serious administration would embark upon a robust response, post haste. An administration that takes its job seriously would marshal and employ all resources at its disposal to inflict not a pin-prick, but to extinguish this proto-insurrection. The time for restraint, shoe-gazing, and BS dialogue is long since over. Now is the time for action to resurrect this deeply wounded Republic, to ascend from chaos and malice. Now is the time to restore the rule of law in a land of lawlessness.
***As of 1700 hours Monday, June 9, 2025, Trump is taking robust action, sending in 700 Marines to restore order in L.A. God bless the President.
“Now is the time for action to resurrect this deeply wounded Republic, to ascend from chaos and malice. Now is the time to restore the rule of law in a land of lawlessness.” Absolutely! Thank you!
This is the beginning of a bloody-civil-war. Wake up and smell the coffee Americans. Our Constitutional Republic is fallen and will never be restored. I compare living in the USA Circa 2025 A.D., with living in Roman occupied Jerusalem, Judea and Samaria during the times of Jesus Christ.
I think it's easier when they're shooting at you. Shooting back becomes an automatic response. They're not your friends. They're the enemy. That's all you need to know.
The one thing that the US government is supposed to do is protect us citizens from invaders intending to kill us. The graffiti in the picture is a declaration of war. The government should use any means necessary to rid our country of this clear and present danger.
They meet the definition of insurrectionists so > detain w/o Habeus Corpus until the insurrection passes. POTUS has this authority. Then at the convenience of the Feds move onto either:deport, release or prosecute.
Absolutely Ben, very few have the ability to steel themselves to do what they know needs to be done. They yield. That's precisely why we are where we are.
Ben, I want to turn your question back to you. Have you ever killed? So many in this forum talk. And talk, and talk... have you ever taken a life? If not - and good on you if you haven't - but if you haven't, then... you have no real basis for you to opine.
And yes, the first few are... difficult. Sadly, it does get easier.
Not much has changed since the days Juvenal wrote about the crumbling Roman Republic in the late 1st century/ early 2nd century. 125 and 2025 – times change but people don’t. Human nature is self-serving (for survival) and that is exactly why governments will always grow corrupt - who runs the government?
Remember that Jesus taught peace during the period you are referring to, the time of the Zealots. Jesus was slaughtered by the ruling class at the behest of the Jews that wanted Him to be a military conquerer. Eventually the Apostles left Jerusalem and preached elsewhere as the Jews just never did understand. There is one major difference, these people do not want peace at all, like the Zealots. They do not want to be Americans at all. They represent the global Soros crowd that want the USA destroyed. I wonder why the “normal” Americans in LA have to have a National Guard contingent instead of taking care of these illegals themselves.
"...the time of the Zealots." Johnny, I bow to you for this. You have encapsulated the period politics so perfectly, I could not have done it better.
The Bible, from beginning to end, is entirely a political chronicle of a race war, written in a style different from our own, in a form appropriate to the times.
If only the Christians understood what they were actually reading.
An atheist reads many books and knows he must learn more. While Christians partly reads one very old book written by unknown authors and has been edited hundreds of times, and there are many versions of, and thinks he knows everything!
My favourite parts of the Bible are where Jesus is talking to God ~ himself. No one else is around and his conversation is quoted in the Bible.
Jesus went into the wilderness ALONE. There then follows an account of all the things that apparently happened to him and what he discussed with Satan. LOL
If he was alone who was recording this and why? The gospels are pure fiction but sadly too many gullible folk understand them to be `gospel truth`.
As an atheist why do you have favorite parts in the bible? Sounds like an attempt to degrade those who are not atheists while laughing to yourself what a smart ass boy you are.
No, The Holy Spirit inspired Matthew to record an account for us. Christianity doesn't start with things of that type, though they are of great importance in affirming just who Jesus is.
Christianity starts with the awareness that in Jesus Christ, we have the greatest gift ever given to a race of ingrates, which we all are, God become Incarnate. Every one of the other cardinal doctrines, including the virgin birth, Jesus' sinless life and perfect death on our behalf, and Jesus' resurrection, all refer back to the fact of The Incarnation.
If you actually bother to read The New Testament, you'll see that Jesus talks about Himself as God Incarnate far more than He talks about any of those other beautiful truths. The human race is divided between those who believe that Jesus Christ is God Incarnate and those who do not, and it's on one's conclusion about that matter that the fate of every human being rests.
Why not read The Epistle to the Romans, chapter 1, verses 18 - 32, to get a condensed account of just how bad things - we - really are? Then, read The Gospel of John, which reveals the solution, simply and precisely.
That's in the Gospel of Matthew. He was one of the 12 apostles. Jesus described it to him. You think someone had to follow him around every minute of the day recording His life in real time? Oh wait, it doesn't explicitly say that, so it's gotta be "pure" fiction. Got it.
It's too late to resurrect the Republic and restore the rule of law. The only hope for Heritage Americans, soon to become a minority in their own country, is SECESSION. Despite what the Pledge of Allegiance teaches us this country is NOT Indivisible (nor is it "Under God" for that matter).
Heritage Americans? Hmmm, what are Heritage Americans? Boomers and GenXers, maybe?
I think it is worth a look at these rioters, not protestors. What are they? Look at the pictures, they are Latinos. They are illegals. They are La Raza types that want to secede from the USA. Has anyone in the Federal government looked at who they are and where they get their funding?
You have a riot? Get out the front loaders and scoop them up into trucks, run them down to the border and dump them back into Mexico. No wait? Mexico does not want any of them back? Surprise, can you spell Mexico’s government enriched by the cartels? Do you think La Raza, AKA Mexico in America, could have a hand in this.
Solutions: Build the wall, pour high tech into guarding the border, double the Border patrol, back up Homan and double up the deportations. If Trump does not clobber this early rebellion, it is going to grow.
There are some of us that think that Balkanization is inevitable and the means to do it peaceably should be explored.
Exactly. The only hope for a peaceful resolution is a national divorce. However, because that will not happen, the Bible has instructions for a time such as this @ Revelation 18:4:
"And I heard another voice from heaven saying, 'Come out of her, My people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues.'”
YHVH/God wants His people to escape from this evil worldly system and the punishments it is bringing upon itself. This call to come out of her echoes earlier prophetic warnings by Isaiah 52:11 and Jeremiah 51:45. Furthermore, the Apostle Paul expands on this theme to apply to all Christians of all ages: “Come out from among them and be separate says the Lord. Do not touch what is unclean, and I will receive you” (2 Corinthians 6:17).
As the Return of Jesus Christ hastens, YHVH/God's people are instructed not to compromise with "the sin and temptation of the world", even when "we must live in the world.” As Jesus prayed before His crucifixion, “I do not pray that You should take them out of the world, but that You should keep them from the evil one. They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world” (John 17:15-16).
Revelation was among the last books accepted into the Christian biblical canon, and to the present day some churches are sceptical of the book because of doubts concerning its authorship. Other groups considered to be heretical. This distrust of the Book of Revelation persists in many Christian sects.
The obscure and extravagant imagery, with many Old Testament allusions and numeric symbolism, has resulted in a wide variety of interpretations. It's such a mess; anybody can read anything into it they want. And charlatans like Pastor John Hagee make a lot of money on that by preaching their crazy end-times ideas to the gullible and unfortunate.
Carl Jung, influential in the fields of psychiatry, anthropology, archaeology, literature, philosophy, psychology and religious studies, in his autobiography "Memories Dream Reflections" said "I will not discuss the transparent prophecies of the Book of Revelation because no one believes in them and the whole subject is felt to be an embarrassing one."
The Bible only makes claims. The Bible provides no evidence, just claims written by a cult of ancient superstitious men! In their minds, only a good, moral and loving god would threaten you with burning when you don't believe in him.
Why would anyone who is intelligent and educated get duped into believing 1st Century Bronze Age superstition? Myths based on ignorant men "making shit up" in order to try and understand the natural world. Without one shred of verifiable, concrete data or experiment-based evidence of a single supernatural "God" or event? We should stop wasting our time trying to please the supernatural and concentrate on improving the welfare of human beings.
As for 2 Corinthians 6:17 and John 17:15-16; why do Christian's expect a book written by unknown authors in a variety of languages, that has been translated, rewritten and edited countless times is evidence for anything? It's just a book.
Why is it so hard for these people to understand that "My book is true because my book says it is true" is not a valid form of reasoning?
Every statement of "Jesus said" or the "Apostle Paul said", needs to start with "my old book says Jesus said or the "Apostle Paul said".
Separate and apart from arguing over the existence of a supernatural being, Jung actually defended the practice of religious belief in "The Undiscovered Self," something akin to exercising the body to promote a healthier psyche individually and collectively.
When atheists seek to suppress religious practice, they create a vacuum filled by other, much more harmful, belief systems.
Atheists DO NOT seek to suppress religious practice, Mike.
The only thing atheist's claim is that there is insufficient credible evidence to prove any God exists. Period. Full stop! That's the only claim we make.
Atheists do not create any harmful, belief systems.
Its religious theists who do that. All the time!
And always create more nonsense to fill the vacuum when their dogma is proved to be crap and you can't come up with any evidence! LOL
The tiresome ole "God of the Gaps" rubbish.
Quit the bullshit, my friend. Just prove to us that your God exists.
Thats all we ask.
Every religion claim's that theirs is the only true God!
What evidence do you have that your religion is not just other false religion?
Why is your "God" real and all the others are not?
When you understand why you dismiss ALL the other possible "Gods", only then will you understand why we atheists dismiss yours.
We're left with the same two existential choices that every country, culture or nation has always had: Defend your way of life or lose it. It really is that simple.
In Northeast Florida, as part of our hurricane preparation, we have ready-made signs for any storm aftermath: "When the looting starts, the shooting starts."
See where I'm going with this? Calling the Rooftop Koreans. Come in. Over.
In the upcoming summer of love many of us must "identify" as Rooftop Koreans or nothing will change. Nothing gives pause to looting like hot lead penetration.
Terrorism: using violent means to achieve political ends.
Note, the MSM urging this on, NGOs organizing flash mobs, and politicians funding it with 'government' funding, and their donors contributing bundled, corporate, and Mob money to the cause are also terrorists.
Don’t kid yourself. There are no democratic/ Republican parties. They’re two sides of the same coin. Hence the reason Trump’s having major congressional challenges. He’s the outlier.
Just a reminder.... they see themselves as the "good guys." They are protecting the downtrodden who only want to have a better life. They are heroic in their eyes.
No, they are bought and paid for mobs. Call them what they are and don't excuse their evil ways. They follow satan. They are terrorists and anti-GOD. words matter. Say the truth. They are without morals or respect.
Except that in America, there are no such thing as downtrodden, except by their own means. Dems are traitors to the Constitution and want it abolished.
Exactly. JFK once said that when the furor of war calmed down, Hitler would be recognized as one of the greatest leaders of all time. The Tribe made sure that never happened.
It is non persuasive to anyone that hasn't already chose to accept it as true and add it to their "identity" soup.
That's all that matters. They aren't even using it to gain "converts" IMO...they're using it as a "trigger word" on their hypnotized (psychologically lobotomized) forces hoping they'll "activate".
A small percentage of those folks will actually sacrifice themselves or anything they hold dear when push comes to shove though. Are the globalist NGOs paying enough to compensate for a life of a person who doesn't even believe a heaven exists? That's an impossible number.
A tangential observation on your comment. "They've already squeezed all of the juice out of the "Trump is a Nazi" lemon. Where did this canard get them?"
As I observe in my small majority-progressive community, it serves a TDS-maintaining function. Lest the true believers start to drift back into normality, it's necessary to constantly reinforce the fear of Supervillain Trump. It works, too.
It's monkeys barking. One's hoots and howls signals if they are good monkeys from Our tree, or are they those smelly, crazy bad monkeys from that Other tree.
By lawful means, as allowed under the Constitution, which guarantees the protection of the states against invasion and domestic violence, further emphasizing the President's role in national security.
No dude the ultimate goal of the operation is the Great Awakening
None of this s*** is real especially not anything Gavin newsom does since he's not even real
We are and have been under a continuity of government 0syop for over a decade where every single thing the government does is staged by Trump in the military in a white hat continuity of government psyop...
Gavin newsom isn't even a real person it's a persona that John f Kennedy Jr has taken on after faked his death........
That's right you heard me that's literally John f Kennedy Jr not Gavin newsom...
You guys are being mind f***** in a grand way by white hats and military intelligence...
Indeed, so what? Fascism is a perfectly legitimate political system, well in line with our Republican Founders. The head of Italy's Fascist Party said as much. Obviously it is averse to Democracy as all well informed American already are. The Democrats, backed by the Plutocratic Elite, banned the teaching of it in our Polysci departments and turned it into a mere pejorative - and since that is the level that most people live on, they have succeeded.
The notion to proclaim "Insurrection" is being bantered about?I am in agreement with idea and things will get interesting should the 10th Mountain division be called up.We are definitely back to news cycle everything is Trump's fault wait wait.....that never went away.smh
As Nixon allowed them to do against the Blacks. Amazing how fast they quieted down after that. Of course all the dissident elements are better armed now.
This is a well-honed tactic, repeatedly and successfully used by the left.
It's called Retroactive Justification.
The ability to study your enemy and make conclusions about his tactics is something that the right and/or conservatives are far too stupid to have ever entered their minds, let alone actually done. Which begs the question, if you can't figure out what your enemy is doing, then how the hell are you ever going to counteract it?
We know who the opposition is. They’ve used the same playbook since the Bolshevik Revolution. Projecting their own intentions such as totalitarianism/authoritarianism/fascism gets tiresome.
To defeat any opposition you must cut off resources . It’s really as easy as that.
No, you are incorrect. Woke leftism is not communism.
Leftism evolves over time, and is implemented in new ideological forms as history progresses. Woke leftist ideology has philosophical tenets that are far different from communism. There is minor overlap, but otherwise they're not the same, including new tactics of political warfare. You've obviously neither studied the ideology, nor done any comparison and contrast within the history of leftism. For example, there are no longer any Jacobins, but at one time they controlled France after their revolution overthrew King Louis XVI. Communism is an ideology of the 20th century. It is now the 21st century, and leftism has moved on. You cannot starve ideas. If you can't or won't understand this, if you remain mired in the past, then you, along with the masses of uninformed people, will be fighting the wrong enemy, and you will most definitely continue to lose.
The lack of self-awareness of these people leaves you dumbfounded. There they are waving Mexican and other foreign flags, not a single American flag, while at the same time claiming this is NOT an invasion.
Like Count Witte (Laurence Olivier) asked Czar Nicholas in "Nicholas and Alexandra" after the Czar's troops had gunned down poor petitioners in front of the Winter Palace in 1905, "How long do you think they're going to stand there and let you shoot them?". How long do the Democrats think the American people are going to stand there and let themselves be overrun by foreigners?
Certainly “mostly peaceful” is a bullshit label. There are enough live streams available, with re-runs just a lick away, to see the violence in full view.
“Protesting”, by undoubtably paid ‘protestors’ and other flavors of ‘activists’, is standard fare. The low information people just go along with the fun.
Waving Mexican flags, and flags from other locations and groups on the planet, is a proven method of dividing the population.
After what I witnessed during the covid lie I am convinced that most Americans will NEVER do anything to stop the invasion by foreign mutts. Americans permitted their businesses to be destroyed, to cover their faces with filthy diapers, to be injected with untested poisons and permitted families to be destroyed by covid madness.
How long do I think the American people will stand by and let themselves be overrun? Forever.
And the angels are the reapers. You better start praying to St Michael - both an angel AND a saint. Your gods killed God. Deicide is the ultimate sin. After that come Regicide. The murder of Czar Nicholas will not be forgiven until the end of the world and maybe not even then.
I am sorry for the fate of Czar Nicholas and especially his family. But he was totally out of touch with the Russian people, isolated in his artificial world of aristocratic, gilded foolery. Fortunately the American ruling class is nothing like that.
Capitalism produces generations of swine as Hunter Thompson said. You want men? Real women? Then you want Fascism or National Socialism, even if under another name.
How much middle class tax money will LA get to rebuild from the riots? Probably more than the western North Carolinians can ever expect. I saw a Peter Santinello video of western NC towns still under rubble 8 ,months after the Hurricane Helene. It makes you mad to think how much help we instead give to Ukraine and Isreal and others.
Also, keep in mind that most "money" (i.e. digits pulled out of Rothschilds' butts in the name of more US taxpayers' debt) "given" to Ukraine and Israel is really given to US MIC.
Catherine Austin Fitts talked about this in 2020. Many of the BLM riots happened in cities that housed a federal reserve bank. Businesses were destroyed and then Blackrock came in and bought the land for pennies on the dollar. Funny how that works.
It won’t be a civil war, because as you point out 70% of the population no longer believes the lies, and the loss of control over Twitter means the propaganda gets exposed in real time and there is no longer a uniform drumbeat of identically phrased messaging across media outlets to gaslight people into feeling like they are crazy if they believe the evidence of their eyes. Basically what it will take is RICO actions and further gutting of NGO dark money to cripple the funding for the astroturfed “protests”, voter ID requirements, and large-scale deportation of illegal immigrants, all of which are supported by large majorities of voters (or in the case of RICO actions I am positive would be supported by large majorities, although I haven’t seen any polling on it). I am pretty confident that the Trump admin will push through all of these things. What we are seeing now are the final desperate attempts of the deep state and the Democrats (but I repeat myself) to maintain their grip.
Almost all Republicans are Deep State. On a scale of 1 to 10, OG had me as an 11, I think, knowing I will not fall for the next upcoming psyop in the firing order.
But will he end it? He keeps giving money to the vile little gnome, Zelensky. As Colonel MacGregor said, He's not in control. Maybe he has good will and maybe he doesn't. We don't know. But what we do know is that he's not really the Commander and Chief.
Yes, Janos, Trump is answering to someone, and it cuts his knees out on the world stage (for anyone that matters). Putin may ultimately say, take me to your leader - not a good position for DJT to negotiate from.
The Dems, under the leadership of Satan, are programed to bring Chaos inorder to effect Satan's Change! So live with it, or not! Can you remember when this nation was Creator inspired?
Is it a "ancient imaginary” construct" Dennis that all the complex, symbiotic life & biology just created itself without any God creator? Silly dumb down educated suckers & fools can be programed to "think" whatever Satan's world wants them to think! IF you had any knowledge of real History you could know that the only thing that brought mankind out of the dark ages was the Christen Church's higher education, studies in science biology art music literature etc.! [With all it's drifting from the gospel & faults] You could look up that fact, until the last 100 years or so, most ALL universities here in “Our Creator” based Constitutional law nation, [as our founders, put it, at risk of life! Were Christian based! Any remark there? (Deist Ben Franklin would have been hung for signing that Creator based declaration! [Fact!]
The Founding Fathers appeared to hold a hodgepodge of beliefs among them, but the Treaty of Tripoli, Article 11, explicitly states that "the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion".
Yeah, the universities were Christian based. They held science back for hundreds of years. Case in point: Galileo, who was condemned to life imprisonment (later reduced to house arrest) by the Catholic Church for heresy by saying the earth revolved around the sun. Some church father types wouldn't even look through his telescope, though some did, like Cardinal Robert Bellarmine. The cardinal acknowledged the significance of his observations, but even so he later advised Galileo not to teach the Copernican model as a definite fact.
Many Christians today can't even bring themselves to look at evolution. They'd rather be ignorant. So spare me BS about Christian based universities.
The theory of macro evolution is the biggest farce that ever existed and the most blatant example of believing that nothing becomes something, which is an accusation by atheists against true faith from Above using different words with the same meaning.
The fact is Christians don't think they're smart enough to live their lives without some sort of divine intervention. Just for fun, whenever I stay in a hotel room, I find the Gideon Bible, I go to Genesis 1, and I cross out “In the beginning” and write “Once upon a time.”
You can also buy little stickers that have "Warning strong violence & sex" or "For Adults Only, may cause nightmares"
In other words, a tornado going through a junkyard could produce a jet? Yes to evolution, no to it being merely Darwinian. It's been guided from above. I said merely, mind you. The Darwinian factors are there of course. But they don't explain the big leaps or "mutations". The vast majority of mutations are worthless if not harmful.
Yes, if you had an infinite time, something good might happen. But we don't. If you say infinite anything, you're sneaking God into the picture.
"Guided from above." A child's picture is simple, and utterly practical.
No, the vast orchestra is beyond mind or Mind; the "perfectly balanced" symphony is actually a creaking, clanking kludge accumulated by limitless time and pressure across unimaginable cycles of expansion and contraction, the Big Diesel rather than the Big Bang or the Big Magician.
But try explaining that to an arboreal primate. For them to grasp it, to take it within themselves, it must oft be humanized, transformered into an Archetype, a Face, they can hold.
The dialect of religion is not the scientific mechanics of the thing; religion's power is the politics of Our Thing, spoken in the emotive language that spurs us.
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The reason for Existence, the Why of Life? You make possible the essential spark that will power the next explosive expansion of the Cycle, and the physical laws imprinted in you will be woven into the fabric molding the next cycle of Creation. You are the very template itself, or all the lights above- everything- stops, a piston collapsing into itself pushing on vacuum. Life's immaterial skein stretched across the worlds is the only superstructure capable of withstanding the Great Compression, when energy loses its push, and gravity resumes its pull to re-form a Core: information is incompressible.
The souls, the gods, the afterlife, they are quite real, real enough to be quantified- but even they are merely aspects of this world, this greenhouse, this biosphere, an ecological node within a much larger cosmic ecology. It is here that we contend, we are the soldiers on the field.
So souls are just subtle energy, not spirit? Do they reincarnate? Are they eternal, or at least lasting as long as the universe? Are they preserved for the next universe?
The Buddhists believe that they are, and help shape each new universe. Of course they believe life is suffering and that we should seek the ultimate reality - unlike you it seems.
You are right, Lugh. Complex Life evolving by chance is our Satan inspired, faith based Evolution religion! Desigined [to help promote more people to Hell!] If you had an infinite time, Order would/ will, turn to Disorder any scientist will tell you that! It's called the, 2nd Law of Thermo Dynamics!
Steve, could you do us all a favour by posting something worth replying to? And convincing us you do not have an acute case of the Dunning-Kruger Effect. Thanks.
[IF?] You like "evidence" [I know you don't] see math expert Dr. Peter Stoners book, Science Speaks! He gives you scientific odds on the correct predictions of the coming life & death of Jesus Christ our lord, at an odds raito of 1 in 10 to the 17th power!
Real science does not investigate the supernatural.
Stoner's book is widely discredited because it assumes things as fact without citations or explanations of the science.
It purports to show "Scientific Proof of the Accuracy of Prophecy and the Bible" but falls very short of showing the Bible as the product of Divine intelligence.
WIKI CRITICISM: C. P. Swanson, reviewing Science Speaks in The Quarterly Review of Biology, wrote: "... the author has fallen into the commonest error of using only these facts which bolster his hypothesis, and of discarding or controverting those which do not.
Various critics have taken issue with Stoner's interpretation of prophecy.[10][11] Stoner's apologetic work did not receive critical attention until its inclusion in Josh McDowell's Evidence that Demands a Verdict [citation needed] and criticism of these claims tends to be addressed to McDowell rather than Stoner, with Stoner's name mentioned in passing. These criticisms against McDowell, Stoner and others include historical errors, claims regarding after-the-event authorship or tampering with biblical prophecies, and disputed meanings of certain biblical phrases.
Others who disagree with specific claims made by Stoner include fellow Christians and secular historians. For instance, while Stoner says of Ezekiel's prophecy of the permanent destruction of Tyre "If Ezekiel had looked at Tyre in his day and had made these seven predictions in human wisdom, these estimates mean that there would have been only one chance in 75,000,000 of their all coming true. They all came true in the minutest detail", others claim "the problem is that very little of this actually came to pass! In fact, it badly missed how history actually unfolded"[12] and "The location of the city of Tyre is not in doubt, for it exists to this day on the same spot and is known as Sur."[13] However, it could still be argued that the boundaries of the ancient mainland city may have fallen within areas of the modern city not rebuilt in the present day.[14]
NOooo YOU are irrelevant & unabel to answer simpel questions! Your Godless sillyness diden't just " Evolve" It's part of the age ole Satan inspired Faiben Socelests credo of "Out of chaos comes power." Youa re one of the Chaos solgers in Satan armay! Thats all! So live with it!
Hitchens? Ignorant? About religion?? Are you insane, man? Hitchens was a walking encyclopedic compilation of information about your religion and others, too. To be fair, many atheists know more about Christianity than many Christians. (To start with, many of them have read your vile book, whereas a lot of Christians haven't.) But Chris was legendary and he is sorely missed.
Silly girl, you people don't know the difference between Wisdom & Intelligence! Hitchens agreed Pascals’ Wager, (a philosophical argument by Blaise Pascal, suggests that believing in God is the most rational choice, even without conclusive proof, because the potential rewards for belief (eternal happiness) outweigh the potential losses (finite inconvenience) if God exists. Conversely, the losses for disbelief (eternal suffering) are greater than the gains (finite pleasure) if God does exist! Don’t worry God/ “Our Creator” exists, anyone with half a brain knows, that complex symbiotic life and our unaverse just didn’t “Evolve” like magic!
What a load, atheists know nothing about the tenets of Christianity. They know about what the Bad Boys of the Christian church have done over the centuries, but have never considered that the Bad Boys are NOT Christian!
Sorely missed ? By other atheists? Hahahahaha. He has already reaped what he sowed over a lifetime of mocking the living God. "The fools says in his heart there is no God". He died at 62. Lifelong smoker. His choice, but probably not a wise one. Hitchens did say, "If I convert its because its better that a believer dies than that an atheist does". He had absolute command of religious thinking.....instead, what he needed was an encounter with the Living God. He never took the opportunity. A wasted intellect. Sad.
Just because you can't see it doesn’t mean you can't hypothesize it! Ever hear of quantum mechanics & sub atomic physics, how about Creation/ Evolution of complex symbiotic life all just in time to feed other hungery, dependent life forms? Yah right that could happen if you just wish hard enough, Right?
@Dennis: It was witnessed & documented that Jesus Christ [a real documented person] mentioned HELL more than Heaven! [Fact!] He died went to Hell rose again, as documented, & witnessed by 400 people! [Fact!] But you people don't need no stinking facts, witnesses or documents because you'er "mind” is made up!... Right?
JC is not a real documented person. You can't use the bible to prove the events in the bible are real. You need outside corroboration and modern historians have been unable to find such corroboration from those times. Saying you believe JC's real because 400 people in JC's storybook witnessed something is like me saying Batman is real because Robin and Commissioner Gordon have met him and talked with him! We know so much about him, there are loads and loads of stories and books and movies about Batman, look! We have pictures of him, we know his history, etc.
You can't use the story to prove the story. If you try that, then any story is true, just like the Batman example.
Jesus was documented by two of His disciples, a Greek Roman citizen named Lucanus, Josephus, Pilate writing to Tiberius Caesar, a Pharisee who was a paramount Jesus hater, name Saul, who met Jesus in person, and a Jewish Roman citizen, a follower of Saul, named John Mark. Add on, on the day after Pentecost, that 11 ordinary men were endowed with the Holy Spirit, started the conversion of the Roman world and willingly died as martyrs to promote the beliefs that Jesus preached. Those people that started Christianity are worth a thousand Hitchens.
The book Science Speaks can explain how silly you sound! Math expert Peter Stoner used a few of the messianic predictions of the coming life death & resurrection of Jesus Christ our Lord! He calculate the odds of just a few of the old, documented prediction that did come true 500 to a 1000 years later as predicated, at an odds ratio of 1 in 10 to the 17th power! (To demonstrate, that’s the same number of silver dollars needed to cover all Texas 2 feet deep!) Ever hear of a DNA match ranging from 1 in 113 billion to 1 in 10 million? Well try 1 in 100 quadrillion odds on Jesus Christ’s witnessed & documented arrival, death & resurrection, being fulfilled! Try to explain all that!!!
Sorry for you. That is the kind of thinking that got us here. Hope you have a chance to change your kind but in any case it is your decision and choice.
Dennis. Really? Heard ALL of this over the decades. Without fail evey athiest on the planet thinks he’s got every redeemed man nailed down to “God is dead”. Equally every atheist is himself a worshipper. Self is the highest order of authority for him. He actually thus becomes his own god. The athiest worships himself, his intellect, his strengths, his reasoning capacity, his memory and even his sense of selfhood. “I am my own god” is fraud and every athiest is a fool. Read what Hitchens brother said about Christopher.
We can only trust ourselves, because we can't trust you for answers.
We cannot answer the questions you ask, and you cannot answer the questions we ask.
The question you are asking is, "why did God put me here?", which is predicated on a certain viewpoint: that Someone is in charge. It is ultimately a moral viewpoint. "What does God want from us, what is His Will?"
The question we are asking is, "how does any of it work?", which is a mechanical question that wants detail. It is an amoral question, not predicated on figuring out a Will; to us, yours is akin to asking an engine its desires. We don't understand the need for there to be someone in charge.
Both viewpoints arose for valid reasons, but that is the nub of it.
Someone in charge, or no one in charge.
Both work, but are different. Both are right, both are wrong.
My way of thinking is illogical, impossible, and makes no sense (to you); your way of thinking appeared the same to me, because I simply didn't understand: you are guided by or seeking to know that Someone In Charge.
Don't worry, I met Him, rather, what you're trying to talk about, "person to person". It was only then that I understood you perceive something real that you don't really have the vocabulary to describe.
I am a deeply religious atheist, but that that seems like a contradiction to you. You wait in vain for me to deny what you experience in your bones, but that is the only call-and-response you have learned.
(And no, not some silly spiritualist, either, neither they, nor you, can explain suffering, or pain, or evil. I can, and am grateful for it.)
Try marketing you silly B.S. elseware, you only got 3 likes with you anti God B.S.! I got 15 likes with my, "Without God's guidance, you get Satan’s!" [Fact!] Maybe there’s a satanic blog you could have more luck with? Remember, it’s documented & witnessed that Jesus Christ died for, You!!! So don’t throw that free gift away! OR you’ll be sorry,... for all eternity! Love. Steve
It must be nice eh Donna; to go through life thinking everyone who disagrees with you has no integrity.
Theists claim that no amount of evidence is going to be enough for atheists to believe the existence of God. Whereas a theist's standard of evidence is none whatsoever.
It’s weird eh; that the ONLY place that it is documented and witnessed that Jesus Christ died for You is in the Bible.
Another dumb, illogical and stupid ancient concept.
Sacrificial Atonement
Hostile Christians: Atheists don't tell theists that they will be eternally tortured for their beliefs.
Who's being more vitriolic? The most vitriolic atheist doesn't hold a candle to theists who murder and subjugate in the name of their god.
If you can’t give evidence for your beliefs, attack the person who doesn’t believe you. Christianity 101.
You give me the impression that you have never read a counter argument to any of your positions. You need folks to just accept that your assumptions are true without evidence. If they won't, then they are not open-minded. Give me a fuckin break!
Spot the hysterical, desperate child; the one who covers his ears and closes his mind to an opposing, reasoned and well-crafted denial of theism.
The one who shouts a lot. Clue: it’s not the late Mr Hitchens.
For me at this point pretending to respect people’s religious beliefs is an exercise in futility. I do not respect people who CHOOSE to be gullible and uneducated - and try to foist that nonsense onto me.
You definitely have not been looking at things through Serene eyes or you would notice that this is all God's magic trick
We are and have been under a continuity of government 0syop for over a decade where every single thing the government does is staged by Trump in the military in a white hat continuity of government psyop...
Gavin newsom isn't even a real person it's a persona that John f Kennedy Jr has taken on after faked his death........
That's right you heard me that's literally John f Kennedy Jr not Gavin newsom...
You guys are being mind f***** in a grand way by white hats and military intelligence...
AF. Well you do hit some points squarely but Trump? Hahaha. He’s small fish. A clown in a production. This is all NATO military ops conducted out of Swiss Bank Authority in Basel and Zurich. If you know their names, they’re not at the top. BIS issues all the approvals or nothing happens. Globally. The US is not a sovereign nation. It’s a Hunger Game village of 12 districts among 38 others on the earth. Yup. A psyop for certain.
If a big bunch of kosher curated illegals run up and down in the streets wrecking stuff isn't that technically a foreign invasion. Aren't there a bunch of empty FEMA concentration camps intended for American citizens that haven't been used yet? Send the National Guard and military to round up the invaders and put them in the camps, no kosher owned whore "judge" need be involved. Feed them cornmeal gruel until they are exported.
Yep! And where is our military who is charged with the defense of this country from enemies foreign and domestic? Oh yeah, they are in Germany, Kuwait, South Korea, Japan, Djibouti, Iraq, Yemen, Syria, and a whole slew of other nations. Don't worry, they are busy "DEFENDING" America from the bad guys while our cities burn from within.
Spreading America's brand of Democracy to Countries that do not want it. You know that kind of Democracy that brings transgenders, gay pride parades, feminism, rampant abortions, drugs, pornography, godlessness and all kind of deviance and depredations. Why wouldn't they want America's Democracy??
How about picking them up one by one, checking their immigration status and immediately running them down i5 to TJ and dumping them into Mexico. The riots (not protests) would stop.
Quite so. Keep it simple. This is the real Wall. And yes, get very rough with employers who break these rules. Very rough. First, civil penalties, like fines. Then criminal penalties. As time goes by and it doesn't stop, expose them in the media for the first offense. Ruin them.
"Send the National Guard and military to round up the invaders and put them in the camps, no kosher owned whore "judge" need be involved. Feed them cornmeal gruel until they are exported."
That is unconstitutional -- a gruel and unusual punishment.
"They are coming close to presenting themselves as a foreign enemy army and, as such, would invite a response from the defending US military."
Coming close? I would say this is blatantly a foreign enemy within our sovereign nation, as has been obvious since the invasion began. We have been wringng our hands over the incursion of military-aged men for the last three years! When are we going to act to preserve our Republic? I don't care anymore who the puppeteers are who are globally wrecking the sovereignty of every Western nation. Palantir? Rockefellers? Soros? Bilderberg? Trilateral Commision? Who cares, and at this point what difference does it make, as Killary Klinton said as she blew off Benghazi? I don't care anymore WHO is causing the chaos worldwide, because it is UP TO US to try to restore what is left of our tattered republic. Since Trump still appears be our Grey Champion in this fourth turning, I will stand behind him, as long as he does not prove himself a turncoat. He best tread carefully now.
We all knew it was coming. This time Trump seems to have a playbook for obvious events. It will be interesting to watch.
I do think the repetition of the BLM riots will not go over as well this time. The memory of it all is still too fresh, including the exposure of rampant lying on the left.
Flying foreign flags by rioters is a pretty bad look.
It's smart to stay out of blue cities for the summer, or maybe forever...
Well look at the map of how US citizens voted., it's mainly red. If the blue burns itself down, that's on them.
I was in Prescott AZ when some city kids came out to protest. In like 10 minutes they got run out of town by guys carrying guns, thankfully peacefully.
Saw lots of red, green and white with an eagle devouring a snake. Looks like an invasion army too me. Where is the US military? Oh yeah, I forgot, spread throughout the world spreading America's brand of "democracy."
Would more than welcome a National Emergency declaration. Because it is, and would provide all the necessary time to correct ALL that ails us--including criminal lawfare DeepState actors you often mention.
I grew up in two of the small city jewels of California - Altadena and Santa Barbara - and live now in the latter. The Democrats are destroying this state in not just one, but a number of ways. The street on which I lived as a child in Altadena is gone now from the fire, like a bomb dropped on it. They're destroying Santa Barbara, too. Here it's in the name of affordable housing which is really code for pleasing big real estate Dem donors. The problem isn't just that it's become a one-party state lead by a Ted Bundy clone. It's that the CA Republicans suck. They put off potential voters by Bible thumping rather than discussing policies, and handing over any election to the Leftist media, who easily destroy any likability they might have. I've come to the conclusion the Republicans don't want to win here the way they used to, and the way Trump wants to win. I think we're going to see the birth of a third party here. I hear more and more people saying they're not in either party and are looking for a new one. It's the only way we'll ever save California.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. The Democrats are bad. The Republicans are far far WORSE. The Republicans are the hypocrites and hypocrites are the dregs. They know exactly what they are doing and why they are doing it. Do not be deceived by the "R" next to a name.
The ones who, when they hold power and can effect change end up doing the same thing the Democrats do. Spend money we don't have. Wage wars we don't need to wage. Grow the government. Those GOPers.
I lived in red California years ago. In many ways it was the same. Places like LA are so big and dispersed and young that lawlessness is kind of endemic.
Maybe it is time for the "shock & awe" of the truth Joel Gilbert uncovered. I guess I am slower than most (I have been buried in researching "elections" and mortgage fraud). since he has been showing us through his documentaries since 2012. In this order:
1) The Trayvon Hoax (2019)
2) Michelle Obama 2024 (2023)
3) Dreams From My Real Father (2012)
tells you that these "Democrats" are Communists. Communists are not entitled to vote or hold office and Govt. funded NGOs are sponsering some of this violence.
Dude it's all fake not just this and that like you're pointing out every single bit of it is fake Obama was arrested in his first term everything after that was faked by ninjas in the military and by Trump...
We are and have been under a continuity of government 0syop for over a decade where every single thing the government does is staged by Trump in the military in a white hat continuity of government psyop...
Gavin newsom isn't even a real person it's a persona that John f Kennedy Jr has taken on after faked his death........
That's right you heard me that's literally John f Kennedy Jr not Gavin newsom...
You guys are being mind f***** in a grand way by white hats and military intelligence...
Their motivation is racism, envy, entitlement (ethno-masochism for the white elites, supremacy for the non-Christian whites). Electoral power is an additional bonus for them, but this is primarily a racial replacement strategy as it is in Canada, Europe, South Africa, Australia, and New Zealand.
But not for them. This is Plutocracy. Capitalism/Communism are one system, heads and tails. The winners and the losers. The Carnies and the Rubes. Middle class? Very little, maybe their trusted and valuable servants and elite workers. In rare cases, maybe they'll be invited to come up higher if they have an Advocate among the Great.
Was at the gym today. Could swear I was the only white dude in there. Everyone else was brown skinned and black hair. Where or where have all the white people gone? Do you ever see a naturally blonde haired person anymore? All the blondes I see have dark roots (fake, like everything else in American society). The Kalergi Plan is working very well.
That picture couldn't be structured any better if it were a hollywood movie poster. Oh wait, it is! Good Lord. Seriously? We are to believe those people aren't paid agitators, actors, etc.? Now I just want to know who's behind them: Soros or Trump's people? What utter nonsense. I don't believe for even 2 seconds that those "riots" or "mostly peaceful protests" are organic.
Remember the $97 billion Joe (or whomever) shoved out of the door after Trump won but before he took office? It supposedly went to Act Blue and other leftist affiliated organizations. Probably a large chunk to Soros’ foundations too.
This is all being staged and faked newsom is quite literally an actor... Actually the actor is someone that you have heard of you know and you think he's dead...
We are and have been under a continuity of government 0syop for over a decade where every single thing the government does is staged by Trump in the military in a white hat continuity of government psyop...
Gavin newsom isn't even a real person it's a persona that John f Kennedy Jr has taken on after faked his death........
That's right you heard me that's literally John f Kennedy Jr not Gavin newsom...
You guys are being mind f***** in a grand way by white hats and military intelligence...
"The ultimate goal of this operation is to goad President Trump into declaring some kind of national emergency to put down the violence, and the objective of that is to point at him and holler, “Behold the fascist tyrant!” That’s the game."
So what? They've already squeezed all of the juice out of the "Trump is a Nazi" lemon. Where did this canard get them?
What should be the response to a combustible mix of foreign nationals here illegally and nationals whose avowed goal is overturning not only extant federal and state laws (as they relate to immigration and the overall sovereignty of the United States), but to very much bring the country to its knees (in order to create the necessary conditions to then move on to actual regime change?
A responsible and serious administration would embark upon a robust response, post haste. An administration that takes its job seriously would marshal and employ all resources at its disposal to inflict not a pin-prick, but to extinguish this proto-insurrection. The time for restraint, shoe-gazing, and BS dialogue is long since over. Now is the time for action to resurrect this deeply wounded Republic, to ascend from chaos and malice. Now is the time to restore the rule of law in a land of lawlessness.
***As of 1700 hours Monday, June 9, 2025, Trump is taking robust action, sending in 700 Marines to restore order in L.A. God bless the President.
“Now is the time for action to resurrect this deeply wounded Republic, to ascend from chaos and malice. Now is the time to restore the rule of law in a land of lawlessness.” Absolutely! Thank you!
This is the beginning of a bloody-civil-war. Wake up and smell the coffee Americans. Our Constitutional Republic is fallen and will never be restored. I compare living in the USA Circa 2025 A.D., with living in Roman occupied Jerusalem, Judea and Samaria during the times of Jesus Christ.
If that's the case, then we have nothing to lose by eliminating them
When you say we does that mean YOU will be locked and loaded kitted up and ready to roll?
Have you ever actually shot anyone or anything?
It is MUCH harder to do than you would think.
I think it's easier when they're shooting at you. Shooting back becomes an automatic response. They're not your friends. They're the enemy. That's all you need to know.
Actually, even then Kathy many people have to have the response to shoot back trained into them.
For those of us who are combat veterans it's going to be no problem turning someone into cat food if they have it coming.
Kit up for the kitties.
Ben. Tennessee here. This is the state of killing people and shooting stuff. No problem. Arm up. Thanks. We are.
Love Tennessee! Where people will actually sit for over 30 hours high up in a tree just waiting to kill something.
Sergeant York.
As a neighbor of yours I'm just wondering if you're aware of what Elon has done in his Memphis built data center? WOW. The man is pure Evil.
The one thing that the US government is supposed to do is protect us citizens from invaders intending to kill us. The graffiti in the picture is a declaration of war. The government should use any means necessary to rid our country of this clear and present danger.
If the fedgovco gets out of the way, we'll take the trash to the curb ourselves
They meet the definition of insurrectionists so > detain w/o Habeus Corpus until the insurrection passes. POTUS has this authority. Then at the convenience of the Feds move onto either:deport, release or prosecute.
Absolutely Ben, very few have the ability to steel themselves to do what they know needs to be done. They yield. That's precisely why we are where we are.
Ben, I want to turn your question back to you. Have you ever killed? So many in this forum talk. And talk, and talk... have you ever taken a life? If not - and good on you if you haven't - but if you haven't, then... you have no real basis for you to opine.
And yes, the first few are... difficult. Sadly, it does get easier.
Yep.
Like everything else the more you pull the trigger the easier it gets.
Not much has changed since the days Juvenal wrote about the crumbling Roman Republic in the late 1st century/ early 2nd century. 125 and 2025 – times change but people don’t. Human nature is self-serving (for survival) and that is exactly why governments will always grow corrupt - who runs the government?
As Juvenal said, “Give them bread and circuses” and they will never revolt: https://lizlasorte.substack.com/p/give-them-bread-and-circuses-and?r=76q58
Carl
Remember that Jesus taught peace during the period you are referring to, the time of the Zealots. Jesus was slaughtered by the ruling class at the behest of the Jews that wanted Him to be a military conquerer. Eventually the Apostles left Jerusalem and preached elsewhere as the Jews just never did understand. There is one major difference, these people do not want peace at all, like the Zealots. They do not want to be Americans at all. They represent the global Soros crowd that want the USA destroyed. I wonder why the “normal” Americans in LA have to have a National Guard contingent instead of taking care of these illegals themselves.
"...the time of the Zealots." Johnny, I bow to you for this. You have encapsulated the period politics so perfectly, I could not have done it better.
The Bible, from beginning to end, is entirely a political chronicle of a race war, written in a style different from our own, in a form appropriate to the times.
If only the Christians understood what they were actually reading.
An atheist reads many books and knows he must learn more. While Christians partly reads one very old book written by unknown authors and has been edited hundreds of times, and there are many versions of, and thinks he knows everything!
My favourite parts of the Bible are where Jesus is talking to God ~ himself. No one else is around and his conversation is quoted in the Bible.
Jesus went into the wilderness ALONE. There then follows an account of all the things that apparently happened to him and what he discussed with Satan. LOL
If he was alone who was recording this and why? The gospels are pure fiction but sadly too many gullible folk understand them to be `gospel truth`.
As an atheist why do you have favorite parts in the bible? Sounds like an attempt to degrade those who are not atheists while laughing to yourself what a smart ass boy you are.
change my mind............
No, The Holy Spirit inspired Matthew to record an account for us. Christianity doesn't start with things of that type, though they are of great importance in affirming just who Jesus is.
Christianity starts with the awareness that in Jesus Christ, we have the greatest gift ever given to a race of ingrates, which we all are, God become Incarnate. Every one of the other cardinal doctrines, including the virgin birth, Jesus' sinless life and perfect death on our behalf, and Jesus' resurrection, all refer back to the fact of The Incarnation.
If you actually bother to read The New Testament, you'll see that Jesus talks about Himself as God Incarnate far more than He talks about any of those other beautiful truths. The human race is divided between those who believe that Jesus Christ is God Incarnate and those who do not, and it's on one's conclusion about that matter that the fate of every human being rests.
Why not read The Epistle to the Romans, chapter 1, verses 18 - 32, to get a condensed account of just how bad things - we - really are? Then, read The Gospel of John, which reveals the solution, simply and precisely.
That's in the Gospel of Matthew. He was one of the 12 apostles. Jesus described it to him. You think someone had to follow him around every minute of the day recording His life in real time? Oh wait, it doesn't explicitly say that, so it's gotta be "pure" fiction. Got it.
No, many get that. The sickness is deeper than mere belief: They take the side of the Jews, not their own side.
You're right about the liberal Churchmen who somehow think it is about love.
Exactly. The Zionists and Neocons don't want peace at all. They are the new Zealots. Your mantra of "Soros" is used to protect you from this truth.
Right, it's those peaceful Muslims that have the solution, the Final Solution. And you're right in there with them, you self-righteous piece of dung!
It's too late to resurrect the Republic and restore the rule of law. The only hope for Heritage Americans, soon to become a minority in their own country, is SECESSION. Despite what the Pledge of Allegiance teaches us this country is NOT Indivisible (nor is it "Under God" for that matter).
Heritage Americans? Hmmm, what are Heritage Americans? Boomers and GenXers, maybe?
I think it is worth a look at these rioters, not protestors. What are they? Look at the pictures, they are Latinos. They are illegals. They are La Raza types that want to secede from the USA. Has anyone in the Federal government looked at who they are and where they get their funding?
You have a riot? Get out the front loaders and scoop them up into trucks, run them down to the border and dump them back into Mexico. No wait? Mexico does not want any of them back? Surprise, can you spell Mexico’s government enriched by the cartels? Do you think La Raza, AKA Mexico in America, could have a hand in this.
Solutions: Build the wall, pour high tech into guarding the border, double the Border patrol, back up Homan and double up the deportations. If Trump does not clobber this early rebellion, it is going to grow.
There are some of us that think that Balkanization is inevitable and the means to do it peaceably should be explored.
Exactly. The only hope for a peaceful resolution is a national divorce. However, because that will not happen, the Bible has instructions for a time such as this @ Revelation 18:4:
"And I heard another voice from heaven saying, 'Come out of her, My people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues.'”
YHVH/God wants His people to escape from this evil worldly system and the punishments it is bringing upon itself. This call to come out of her echoes earlier prophetic warnings by Isaiah 52:11 and Jeremiah 51:45. Furthermore, the Apostle Paul expands on this theme to apply to all Christians of all ages: “Come out from among them and be separate says the Lord. Do not touch what is unclean, and I will receive you” (2 Corinthians 6:17).
As the Return of Jesus Christ hastens, YHVH/God's people are instructed not to compromise with "the sin and temptation of the world", even when "we must live in the world.” As Jesus prayed before His crucifixion, “I do not pray that You should take them out of the world, but that You should keep them from the evil one. They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world” (John 17:15-16).
Revelation was among the last books accepted into the Christian biblical canon, and to the present day some churches are sceptical of the book because of doubts concerning its authorship. Other groups considered to be heretical. This distrust of the Book of Revelation persists in many Christian sects.
The obscure and extravagant imagery, with many Old Testament allusions and numeric symbolism, has resulted in a wide variety of interpretations. It's such a mess; anybody can read anything into it they want. And charlatans like Pastor John Hagee make a lot of money on that by preaching their crazy end-times ideas to the gullible and unfortunate.
Carl Jung, influential in the fields of psychiatry, anthropology, archaeology, literature, philosophy, psychology and religious studies, in his autobiography "Memories Dream Reflections" said "I will not discuss the transparent prophecies of the Book of Revelation because no one believes in them and the whole subject is felt to be an embarrassing one."
The Bible only makes claims. The Bible provides no evidence, just claims written by a cult of ancient superstitious men! In their minds, only a good, moral and loving god would threaten you with burning when you don't believe in him.
Why would anyone who is intelligent and educated get duped into believing 1st Century Bronze Age superstition? Myths based on ignorant men "making shit up" in order to try and understand the natural world. Without one shred of verifiable, concrete data or experiment-based evidence of a single supernatural "God" or event? We should stop wasting our time trying to please the supernatural and concentrate on improving the welfare of human beings.
As for 2 Corinthians 6:17 and John 17:15-16; why do Christian's expect a book written by unknown authors in a variety of languages, that has been translated, rewritten and edited countless times is evidence for anything? It's just a book.
Why is it so hard for these people to understand that "My book is true because my book says it is true" is not a valid form of reasoning?
Every statement of "Jesus said" or the "Apostle Paul said", needs to start with "my old book says Jesus said or the "Apostle Paul said".
Separate and apart from arguing over the existence of a supernatural being, Jung actually defended the practice of religious belief in "The Undiscovered Self," something akin to exercising the body to promote a healthier psyche individually and collectively.
When atheists seek to suppress religious practice, they create a vacuum filled by other, much more harmful, belief systems.
https://youtu.be/3MfBLPuwwdo
Atheists DO NOT seek to suppress religious practice, Mike.
The only thing atheist's claim is that there is insufficient credible evidence to prove any God exists. Period. Full stop! That's the only claim we make.
Atheists do not create any harmful, belief systems.
Its religious theists who do that. All the time!
And always create more nonsense to fill the vacuum when their dogma is proved to be crap and you can't come up with any evidence! LOL
The tiresome ole "God of the Gaps" rubbish.
Quit the bullshit, my friend. Just prove to us that your God exists.
Thats all we ask.
Every religion claim's that theirs is the only true God!
What evidence do you have that your religion is not just other false religion?
Why is your "God" real and all the others are not?
When you understand why you dismiss ALL the other possible "Gods", only then will you understand why we atheists dismiss yours.
You're a fool!
Religion 101: When you are losing the debate, insult your opponent!
We're left with the same two existential choices that every country, culture or nation has always had: Defend your way of life or lose it. It really is that simple.
In Northeast Florida, as part of our hurricane preparation, we have ready-made signs for any storm aftermath: "When the looting starts, the shooting starts."
See where I'm going with this? Calling the Rooftop Koreans. Come in. Over.
In the upcoming summer of love many of us must "identify" as Rooftop Koreans or nothing will change. Nothing gives pause to looting like hot lead penetration.
This is true. Do it under cover, though, or democrat "law enforcement" will arrest you for defending yourself. After all, we are a nation of laws.
Buy a spare gun barrel with cash at the next gun show!
The democrat party is the party of terrorism.
Terrorism: using violent means to achieve political ends.
Note, the MSM urging this on, NGOs organizing flash mobs, and politicians funding it with 'government' funding, and their donors contributing bundled, corporate, and Mob money to the cause are also terrorists.
Don’t kid yourself. There are no democratic/ Republican parties. They’re two sides of the same coin. Hence the reason Trump’s having major congressional challenges. He’s the outlier.
Just a reminder.... they see themselves as the "good guys." They are protecting the downtrodden who only want to have a better life. They are heroic in their eyes.
No, they are bought and paid for mobs. Call them what they are and don't excuse their evil ways. They follow satan. They are terrorists and anti-GOD. words matter. Say the truth. They are without morals or respect.
Except that in America, there are no such thing as downtrodden, except by their own means. Dems are traitors to the Constitution and want it abolished.
"Dems are traitors to the Constitution and want it abolished."
A pretty huge generalization, my friend. LOL
And male bovine excrement. Prove to us that it is true! Betcha can't.
Exactly so, shibumi, Evil works by wearing a mask: no one fights for evil, but they will pledge their all to fighting for "good".
Are you really that blind. They are bought and paid for. They have no morals and could care less about humans in any form
Really profound comment. No one wants to fight evil, but will only fight for good.
"They've already squeezed all of the juice out of the "Trump is a Nazi" lemon."
I doubt that. "[Fill-in-the-blank] is a Nazi!", is the lemon that never runs dry.
Shriek, "Trump is a Nazi!" and watch as the ears of half of the population perk up and they start barking.
Nazi is perennial. It never gets old. EVER. We will be dead and gone and it will still be used.
Exactly. JFK once said that when the furor of war calmed down, Hitler would be recognized as one of the greatest leaders of all time. The Tribe made sure that never happened.
While squeezing that nazi lemon they forget to not rub their eyes and scabbed up crotches.
LOL
It is non persuasive to anyone that hasn't already chose to accept it as true and add it to their "identity" soup.
That's all that matters. They aren't even using it to gain "converts" IMO...they're using it as a "trigger word" on their hypnotized (psychologically lobotomized) forces hoping they'll "activate".
A small percentage of those folks will actually sacrifice themselves or anything they hold dear when push comes to shove though. Are the globalist NGOs paying enough to compensate for a life of a person who doesn't even believe a heaven exists? That's an impossible number.
A trigger word to activate - precisely the purpose of trauma conditioning. Well done, sir.
A tangential observation on your comment. "They've already squeezed all of the juice out of the "Trump is a Nazi" lemon. Where did this canard get them?"
As I observe in my small majority-progressive community, it serves a TDS-maintaining function. Lest the true believers start to drift back into normality, it's necessary to constantly reinforce the fear of Supervillain Trump. It works, too.
It's monkeys barking. One's hoots and howls signals if they are good monkeys from Our tree, or are they those smelly, crazy bad monkeys from that Other tree.
And do so by any means necessary!
By lawful means, as allowed under the Constitution, which guarantees the protection of the states against invasion and domestic violence, further emphasizing the President's role in national security.
No dude the ultimate goal of the operation is the Great Awakening
None of this s*** is real especially not anything Gavin newsom does since he's not even real
We are and have been under a continuity of government 0syop for over a decade where every single thing the government does is staged by Trump in the military in a white hat continuity of government psyop...
Gavin newsom isn't even a real person it's a persona that John f Kennedy Jr has taken on after faked his death........
That's right you heard me that's literally John f Kennedy Jr not Gavin newsom...
You guys are being mind f***** in a grand way by white hats and military intelligence...
https://www.nvestig8.life/the_world_is_fake
God bless the Marines!
Indeed, so what? Fascism is a perfectly legitimate political system, well in line with our Republican Founders. The head of Italy's Fascist Party said as much. Obviously it is averse to Democracy as all well informed American already are. The Democrats, backed by the Plutocratic Elite, banned the teaching of it in our Polysci departments and turned it into a mere pejorative - and since that is the level that most people live on, they have succeeded.
The Dems are blaming Trump for escalating the riots by bring in the National Guard. The psychopath “protesters” say,”Look what they made me do!”
Yes, enforcing immigration laws is a "provocation." (NOT!)
Laws only apply to republicans, not democrats. Did you not get the memo?
The notion to proclaim "Insurrection" is being bantered about?I am in agreement with idea and things will get interesting should the 10th Mountain division be called up.We are definitely back to news cycle everything is Trump's fault wait wait.....that never went away.smh
"Look at what they made me do!"
This has been the justification for bad behavior from the Left since the '60s. Pure projection.
He should go whole hog and shoot a few.
The Invaders
As Nixon allowed them to do against the Blacks. Amazing how fast they quieted down after that. Of course all the dissident elements are better armed now.
This is a well-honed tactic, repeatedly and successfully used by the left.
It's called Retroactive Justification.
The ability to study your enemy and make conclusions about his tactics is something that the right and/or conservatives are far too stupid to have ever entered their minds, let alone actually done. Which begs the question, if you can't figure out what your enemy is doing, then how the hell are you ever going to counteract it?
We know who the opposition is. They’ve used the same playbook since the Bolshevik Revolution. Projecting their own intentions such as totalitarianism/authoritarianism/fascism gets tiresome.
To defeat any opposition you must cut off resources . It’s really as easy as that.
No, you are incorrect. Woke leftism is not communism.
Leftism evolves over time, and is implemented in new ideological forms as history progresses. Woke leftist ideology has philosophical tenets that are far different from communism. There is minor overlap, but otherwise they're not the same, including new tactics of political warfare. You've obviously neither studied the ideology, nor done any comparison and contrast within the history of leftism. For example, there are no longer any Jacobins, but at one time they controlled France after their revolution overthrew King Louis XVI. Communism is an ideology of the 20th century. It is now the 21st century, and leftism has moved on. You cannot starve ideas. If you can't or won't understand this, if you remain mired in the past, then you, along with the masses of uninformed people, will be fighting the wrong enemy, and you will most definitely continue to lose.
The lack of self-awareness of these people leaves you dumbfounded. There they are waving Mexican and other foreign flags, not a single American flag, while at the same time claiming this is NOT an invasion.
Like Count Witte (Laurence Olivier) asked Czar Nicholas in "Nicholas and Alexandra" after the Czar's troops had gunned down poor petitioners in front of the Winter Palace in 1905, "How long do you think they're going to stand there and let you shoot them?". How long do the Democrats think the American people are going to stand there and let themselves be overrun by foreigners?
Certainly “mostly peaceful” is a bullshit label. There are enough live streams available, with re-runs just a lick away, to see the violence in full view.
“Protesting”, by undoubtably paid ‘protestors’ and other flavors of ‘activists’, is standard fare. The low information people just go along with the fun.
Waving Mexican flags, and flags from other locations and groups on the planet, is a proven method of dividing the population.
The obvious lying by the left/media is so recent that it will discredit them.
After what I witnessed during the covid lie I am convinced that most Americans will NEVER do anything to stop the invasion by foreign mutts. Americans permitted their businesses to be destroyed, to cover their faces with filthy diapers, to be injected with untested poisons and permitted families to be destroyed by covid madness.
How long do I think the American people will stand by and let themselves be overrun? Forever.
It doesn't take 'most,' it takes a resolute fee. A cantankerous few, like you and me. Hang in there brother.
The wheat will be gathered into the barn and the chaff will burn.
And the angels are the reapers. You better start praying to St Michael - both an angel AND a saint. Your gods killed God. Deicide is the ultimate sin. After that come Regicide. The murder of Czar Nicholas will not be forgiven until the end of the world and maybe not even then.
I am sorry for the fate of Czar Nicholas and especially his family. But he was totally out of touch with the Russian people, isolated in his artificial world of aristocratic, gilded foolery. Fortunately the American ruling class is nothing like that.
Yes, the Judeo-Masons would kill him all over again if they could.
Don’t think so. Will be coming out of the woodwork and a forced to be reckoned with. Remember, we have the moral high ground.
Most Americans will until the twelfth of never. They'll go along to get along, and turn your ass in for a slice of bread.
Capitalism produces generations of swine as Hunter Thompson said. You want men? Real women? Then you want Fascism or National Socialism, even if under another name.
And we all know how that film ended.
They are burning American flags.
Rooftop Koreans sniper rifle with rubber bullets
That's actually a great idea, a superb one, Julie.
The Dems are trying to create an American Maidan, so they want real bullets to get used.
How much middle class tax money will LA get to rebuild from the riots? Probably more than the western North Carolinians can ever expect. I saw a Peter Santinello video of western NC towns still under rubble 8 ,months after the Hurricane Helene. It makes you mad to think how much help we instead give to Ukraine and Isreal and others.
Also, keep in mind that most "money" (i.e. digits pulled out of Rothschilds' butts in the name of more US taxpayers' debt) "given" to Ukraine and Israel is really given to US MIC.
I'm going to say nothing gets rebuilt as a result of riots since they won't approve building permits.
Nothing but high density living seems to be going in anywhere right now.
Further insurance companies are refusing to pay for "acts of God" and riots.
All of LA burns down it will be twenty years before it is rebuilt in some form or fashion one huge Cabrini square tenement in Chicago.
Why rebuild when it can be a giant tent city?
Notice how the BLM riots occured in the priciest areas- somebody is getting real estate at a steep discount, since they can't be insured.
Catherine Austin Fitts talked about this in 2020. Many of the BLM riots happened in cities that housed a federal reserve bank. Businesses were destroyed and then Blackrock came in and bought the land for pennies on the dollar. Funny how that works.
Keep voting for those elected representatives!
It won’t be a civil war, because as you point out 70% of the population no longer believes the lies, and the loss of control over Twitter means the propaganda gets exposed in real time and there is no longer a uniform drumbeat of identically phrased messaging across media outlets to gaslight people into feeling like they are crazy if they believe the evidence of their eyes. Basically what it will take is RICO actions and further gutting of NGO dark money to cripple the funding for the astroturfed “protests”, voter ID requirements, and large-scale deportation of illegal immigrants, all of which are supported by large majorities of voters (or in the case of RICO actions I am positive would be supported by large majorities, although I haven’t seen any polling on it). I am pretty confident that the Trump admin will push through all of these things. What we are seeing now are the final desperate attempts of the deep state and the Democrats (but I repeat myself) to maintain their grip.
Do you really think that the Deep State only has one of a two-party system?
Do not underestimate your foe.
Right OG, time to bring back the GLT.
You believe that the Republicans aren't nearly all Deep State? Maybe it is time to bring back the GLT. What was your score again?
Almost all Republicans are Deep State. On a scale of 1 to 10, OG had me as an 11, I think, knowing I will not fall for the next upcoming psyop in the firing order.
Hope springs eternal that the government that made this mess will now clean it up. Good luck with that.
The Trumpster didn’t start it
But will he end it? He keeps giving money to the vile little gnome, Zelensky. As Colonel MacGregor said, He's not in control. Maybe he has good will and maybe he doesn't. We don't know. But what we do know is that he's not really the Commander and Chief.
Yes, Janos, Trump is answering to someone, and it cuts his knees out on the world stage (for anyone that matters). Putin may ultimately say, take me to your leader - not a good position for DJT to negotiate from.
As if Putin is the actual leader.
You don't think he answers to someone or a group as well?
Of course he didn't start it. But he had four years to so something and did nothing. So far, the same this time---a lot of talk and no action.
All US presidents have been controlled since JFK. Trump is no exception.
Very true. But it goes back way before JFK. His fate just reinforced the knowledge that going against the controllers is not a good idea.
The Dems, under the leadership of Satan, are programed to bring Chaos inorder to effect Satan's Change! So live with it, or not! Can you remember when this nation was Creator inspired?
Without God's guidence, you get Satans! [Fact!]
"God", the "Creator" and "Satan" are ancient imaginary constructs. Myths at best. [Fact!]
"Religion poisons everything!" - Christopher Hitchens.
Never truer words spoken.
Is it a "ancient imaginary” construct" Dennis that all the complex, symbiotic life & biology just created itself without any God creator? Silly dumb down educated suckers & fools can be programed to "think" whatever Satan's world wants them to think! IF you had any knowledge of real History you could know that the only thing that brought mankind out of the dark ages was the Christen Church's higher education, studies in science biology art music literature etc.! [With all it's drifting from the gospel & faults] You could look up that fact, until the last 100 years or so, most ALL universities here in “Our Creator” based Constitutional law nation, [as our founders, put it, at risk of life! Were Christian based! Any remark there? (Deist Ben Franklin would have been hung for signing that Creator based declaration! [Fact!]
The Founding Fathers appeared to hold a hodgepodge of beliefs among them, but the Treaty of Tripoli, Article 11, explicitly states that "the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion".
https://firstamendment.mtsu.edu/article/1797-treaty-of-tripoli/
Yeah, the universities were Christian based. They held science back for hundreds of years. Case in point: Galileo, who was condemned to life imprisonment (later reduced to house arrest) by the Catholic Church for heresy by saying the earth revolved around the sun. Some church father types wouldn't even look through his telescope, though some did, like Cardinal Robert Bellarmine. The cardinal acknowledged the significance of his observations, but even so he later advised Galileo not to teach the Copernican model as a definite fact.
Many Christians today can't even bring themselves to look at evolution. They'd rather be ignorant. So spare me BS about Christian based universities.
The theory of macro evolution is the biggest farce that ever existed and the most blatant example of believing that nothing becomes something, which is an accusation by atheists against true faith from Above using different words with the same meaning.
Thank you, Donna.
It's weird that Christians demand evidence for evolution while accepting a whole book of fairy tales with no evidence, eh! LOL
"Knowledge is not something you simply assert; knowledge is demonstrated."
Christianity: There are but two reasons for worshiping a God.
The hope it can do something FOR you.
And the constant fear it can and will do something TO you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZW141pJ1gE
The fact is Christians don't think they're smart enough to live their lives without some sort of divine intervention. Just for fun, whenever I stay in a hotel room, I find the Gideon Bible, I go to Genesis 1, and I cross out “In the beginning” and write “Once upon a time.”
You can also buy little stickers that have "Warning strong violence & sex" or "For Adults Only, may cause nightmares"
One word, Steve. Evolution. Look it up sometime. There are very good books explaining it, if you'd care to educate yourself.
In other words, a tornado going through a junkyard could produce a jet? Yes to evolution, no to it being merely Darwinian. It's been guided from above. I said merely, mind you. The Darwinian factors are there of course. But they don't explain the big leaps or "mutations". The vast majority of mutations are worthless if not harmful.
Yes, if you had an infinite time, something good might happen. But we don't. If you say infinite anything, you're sneaking God into the picture.
"Guided from above." A child's picture is simple, and utterly practical.
No, the vast orchestra is beyond mind or Mind; the "perfectly balanced" symphony is actually a creaking, clanking kludge accumulated by limitless time and pressure across unimaginable cycles of expansion and contraction, the Big Diesel rather than the Big Bang or the Big Magician.
But try explaining that to an arboreal primate. For them to grasp it, to take it within themselves, it must oft be humanized, transformered into an Archetype, a Face, they can hold.
The dialect of religion is not the scientific mechanics of the thing; religion's power is the politics of Our Thing, spoken in the emotive language that spurs us.
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The reason for Existence, the Why of Life? You make possible the essential spark that will power the next explosive expansion of the Cycle, and the physical laws imprinted in you will be woven into the fabric molding the next cycle of Creation. You are the very template itself, or all the lights above- everything- stops, a piston collapsing into itself pushing on vacuum. Life's immaterial skein stretched across the worlds is the only superstructure capable of withstanding the Great Compression, when energy loses its push, and gravity resumes its pull to re-form a Core: information is incompressible.
The souls, the gods, the afterlife, they are quite real, real enough to be quantified- but even they are merely aspects of this world, this greenhouse, this biosphere, an ecological node within a much larger cosmic ecology. It is here that we contend, we are the soldiers on the field.
So souls are just subtle energy, not spirit? Do they reincarnate? Are they eternal, or at least lasting as long as the universe? Are they preserved for the next universe?
The Buddhists believe that they are, and help shape each new universe. Of course they believe life is suffering and that we should seek the ultimate reality - unlike you it seems.
You are right, Lugh. Complex Life evolving by chance is our Satan inspired, faith based Evolution religion! Desigined [to help promote more people to Hell!] If you had an infinite time, Order would/ will, turn to Disorder any scientist will tell you that! It's called the, 2nd Law of Thermo Dynamics!
Steve, could you do us all a favour by posting something worth replying to? And convincing us you do not have an acute case of the Dunning-Kruger Effect. Thanks.
It's weird that Christians demand evidence for evolution while accepting a whole book of fairy tales with no evidence, eh! LOL
[IF?] You like "evidence" [I know you don't] see math expert Dr. Peter Stoners book, Science Speaks! He gives you scientific odds on the correct predictions of the coming life & death of Jesus Christ our lord, at an odds raito of 1 in 10 to the 17th power!
LOL. Right up there with the Da Vinci Code!
Junk Science! First written in 1944!
Real science does not investigate the supernatural.
Stoner's book is widely discredited because it assumes things as fact without citations or explanations of the science.
It purports to show "Scientific Proof of the Accuracy of Prophecy and the Bible" but falls very short of showing the Bible as the product of Divine intelligence.
WIKI CRITICISM: C. P. Swanson, reviewing Science Speaks in The Quarterly Review of Biology, wrote: "... the author has fallen into the commonest error of using only these facts which bolster his hypothesis, and of discarding or controverting those which do not.
Various critics have taken issue with Stoner's interpretation of prophecy.[10][11] Stoner's apologetic work did not receive critical attention until its inclusion in Josh McDowell's Evidence that Demands a Verdict [citation needed] and criticism of these claims tends to be addressed to McDowell rather than Stoner, with Stoner's name mentioned in passing. These criticisms against McDowell, Stoner and others include historical errors, claims regarding after-the-event authorship or tampering with biblical prophecies, and disputed meanings of certain biblical phrases.
Others who disagree with specific claims made by Stoner include fellow Christians and secular historians. For instance, while Stoner says of Ezekiel's prophecy of the permanent destruction of Tyre "If Ezekiel had looked at Tyre in his day and had made these seven predictions in human wisdom, these estimates mean that there would have been only one chance in 75,000,000 of their all coming true. They all came true in the minutest detail", others claim "the problem is that very little of this actually came to pass! In fact, it badly missed how history actually unfolded"[12] and "The location of the city of Tyre is not in doubt, for it exists to this day on the same spot and is known as Sur."[13] However, it could still be argued that the boundaries of the ancient mainland city may have fallen within areas of the modern city not rebuilt in the present day.[14]
So silly people would have been happier if our God inspired founding fathers used, "We are endowed by evolution with inalienable rights." Correct?
(Notice how you can’t respond to that simple question!) Just hit & run warfair!
Irrelevant question. You should know about hit and run warfare--you're a master.
NOooo YOU are irrelevant & unabel to answer simpel questions! Your Godless sillyness diden't just " Evolve" It's part of the age ole Satan inspired Faiben Socelests credo of "Out of chaos comes power." Youa re one of the Chaos solgers in Satan armay! Thats all! So live with it!
Dennis......you're quoting Christopher Hirtchens? Hahahahahaha
What's wrong with quoting perhaps the most famous atheist in modern times, William?
Could you do us all a favour Willim, by posting something worth replying to?
Should be obvious. I have heard him many times. A classic and very intelligent man. But an ignorant dickhead nontheless. And he’s wrong.
Hitchens? Ignorant? About religion?? Are you insane, man? Hitchens was a walking encyclopedic compilation of information about your religion and others, too. To be fair, many atheists know more about Christianity than many Christians. (To start with, many of them have read your vile book, whereas a lot of Christians haven't.) But Chris was legendary and he is sorely missed.
Silly girl, you people don't know the difference between Wisdom & Intelligence! Hitchens agreed Pascals’ Wager, (a philosophical argument by Blaise Pascal, suggests that believing in God is the most rational choice, even without conclusive proof, because the potential rewards for belief (eternal happiness) outweigh the potential losses (finite inconvenience) if God exists. Conversely, the losses for disbelief (eternal suffering) are greater than the gains (finite pleasure) if God does exist! Don’t worry God/ “Our Creator” exists, anyone with half a brain knows, that complex symbiotic life and our unaverse just didn’t “Evolve” like magic!
Go for it, Donna. You are nailing it today!
Many atheists know more about Christianity?
What a load, atheists know nothing about the tenets of Christianity. They know about what the Bad Boys of the Christian church have done over the centuries, but have never considered that the Bad Boys are NOT Christian!
Sorely missed ? By other atheists? Hahahahaha. He has already reaped what he sowed over a lifetime of mocking the living God. "The fools says in his heart there is no God". He died at 62. Lifelong smoker. His choice, but probably not a wise one. Hitchens did say, "If I convert its because its better that a believer dies than that an atheist does". He had absolute command of religious thinking.....instead, what he needed was an encounter with the Living God. He never took the opportunity. A wasted intellect. Sad.
You can't argue religion. Impossible to debate something that's based not on facts but faith.
That said, Hitchens was the very best at doing so, very eloquently. I miss him.
Just because you can't see it doesn’t mean you can't hypothesize it! Ever hear of quantum mechanics & sub atomic physics, how about Creation/ Evolution of complex symbiotic life all just in time to feed other hungery, dependent life forms? Yah right that could happen if you just wish hard enough, Right?
You're welcome to your religious beliefs. Just don't try to shove them down my throat.
Stupidity poisons everything as does man's fallen nature.
Religion is the salve with the threat of eternal damnation for being nasty.
You live your life and beliefs only YOU have the consequences to deal with if YOU are wrong.
Add "the threat of eternal damnation" to the list of ancient imaginary constructs. Myths at best. [Fact!]
Telling people they are going to hell for not believing what you do.
Just throw away lines from stupid gullible Bible Bangers.
Religion peddles an imaginary saviour only to protect the stupid from imaginary demons. Very few believe this shit in 2025.
Could you do us all a favour Ben, by posting something worth replying to?
Obviously, I just did because you replied.
Ha, good one, Ben.
@Dennis: It was witnessed & documented that Jesus Christ [a real documented person] mentioned HELL more than Heaven! [Fact!] He died went to Hell rose again, as documented, & witnessed by 400 people! [Fact!] But you people don't need no stinking facts, witnesses or documents because you'er "mind” is made up!... Right?
JC is not a real documented person. You can't use the bible to prove the events in the bible are real. You need outside corroboration and modern historians have been unable to find such corroboration from those times. Saying you believe JC's real because 400 people in JC's storybook witnessed something is like me saying Batman is real because Robin and Commissioner Gordon have met him and talked with him! We know so much about him, there are loads and loads of stories and books and movies about Batman, look! We have pictures of him, we know his history, etc.
You can't use the story to prove the story. If you try that, then any story is true, just like the Batman example.
Try again, Steve, if you've a "mind" to.
How do we know Donna is real? Prove that you're not a midwit bot.
Jesus was documented by two of His disciples, a Greek Roman citizen named Lucanus, Josephus, Pilate writing to Tiberius Caesar, a Pharisee who was a paramount Jesus hater, name Saul, who met Jesus in person, and a Jewish Roman citizen, a follower of Saul, named John Mark. Add on, on the day after Pentecost, that 11 ordinary men were endowed with the Holy Spirit, started the conversion of the Roman world and willingly died as martyrs to promote the beliefs that Jesus preached. Those people that started Christianity are worth a thousand Hitchens.
The book Science Speaks can explain how silly you sound! Math expert Peter Stoner used a few of the messianic predictions of the coming life death & resurrection of Jesus Christ our Lord! He calculate the odds of just a few of the old, documented prediction that did come true 500 to a 1000 years later as predicated, at an odds ratio of 1 in 10 to the 17th power! (To demonstrate, that’s the same number of silver dollars needed to cover all Texas 2 feet deep!) Ever hear of a DNA match ranging from 1 in 113 billion to 1 in 10 million? Well try 1 in 100 quadrillion odds on Jesus Christ’s witnessed & documented arrival, death & resurrection, being fulfilled! Try to explain all that!!!
Sorry for you. That is the kind of thinking that got us here. Hope you have a chance to change your kind but in any case it is your decision and choice.
Jesus didn't seem to think so
Marketing the Messiah - The Truth About Jesus | myDocumentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy1BwU6wwZU&t=5997s
The Jesus Lie: The Greatest Deception Ever Crafted | Dr. Nicholas Peter Legh Allen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_kE4V5kQwI&t=532s
Jesus: Mything in Action - with David Fitzgerald (TTA Podcast 320) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZbemdQizx0&t=17s
Dennis. Really? Heard ALL of this over the decades. Without fail evey athiest on the planet thinks he’s got every redeemed man nailed down to “God is dead”. Equally every atheist is himself a worshipper. Self is the highest order of authority for him. He actually thus becomes his own god. The athiest worships himself, his intellect, his strengths, his reasoning capacity, his memory and even his sense of selfhood. “I am my own god” is fraud and every athiest is a fool. Read what Hitchens brother said about Christopher.
We can only trust ourselves, because we can't trust you for answers.
We cannot answer the questions you ask, and you cannot answer the questions we ask.
The question you are asking is, "why did God put me here?", which is predicated on a certain viewpoint: that Someone is in charge. It is ultimately a moral viewpoint. "What does God want from us, what is His Will?"
The question we are asking is, "how does any of it work?", which is a mechanical question that wants detail. It is an amoral question, not predicated on figuring out a Will; to us, yours is akin to asking an engine its desires. We don't understand the need for there to be someone in charge.
Both viewpoints arose for valid reasons, but that is the nub of it.
Someone in charge, or no one in charge.
Both work, but are different. Both are right, both are wrong.
My way of thinking is illogical, impossible, and makes no sense (to you); your way of thinking appeared the same to me, because I simply didn't understand: you are guided by or seeking to know that Someone In Charge.
Don't worry, I met Him, rather, what you're trying to talk about, "person to person". It was only then that I understood you perceive something real that you don't really have the vocabulary to describe.
I am a deeply religious atheist, but that that seems like a contradiction to you. You wait in vain for me to deny what you experience in your bones, but that is the only call-and-response you have learned.
(And no, not some silly spiritualist, either, neither they, nor you, can explain suffering, or pain, or evil. I can, and am grateful for it.)
Al’s. That’s quite a life lesson screed. Good for you. Perhaps one day you will come to the light. As of today you are dead man walking.
An atheist is a worshipper of self. They profess their BS to convince themselves, They surely do not convince Anyone of faith.
William and John, it must be nice to go through life thinking everyone who disagrees with you has no integrity.
Look at what religion has done to you.
It's poisoned your mind, made you a completely crazy person.
I am so sorry for you, and I hope that one day, you'll recover.
Perfect, JohnAZ.
Try marketing you silly B.S. elseware, you only got 3 likes with you anti God B.S.! I got 15 likes with my, "Without God's guidance, you get Satan’s!" [Fact!] Maybe there’s a satanic blog you could have more luck with? Remember, it’s documented & witnessed that Jesus Christ died for, You!!! So don’t throw that free gift away! OR you’ll be sorry,... for all eternity! Love. Steve
Hostile Christians are such a bore.
As are BS atheists.
And you're a boor.
It must be nice eh Donna; to go through life thinking everyone who disagrees with you has no integrity.
Theists claim that no amount of evidence is going to be enough for atheists to believe the existence of God. Whereas a theist's standard of evidence is none whatsoever.
It’s weird eh; that the ONLY place that it is documented and witnessed that Jesus Christ died for You is in the Bible.
Another dumb, illogical and stupid ancient concept.
Sacrificial Atonement
Hostile Christians: Atheists don't tell theists that they will be eternally tortured for their beliefs.
Who's being more vitriolic? The most vitriolic atheist doesn't hold a candle to theists who murder and subjugate in the name of their god.
If you can’t give evidence for your beliefs, attack the person who doesn’t believe you. Christianity 101.
Your bullshit sources do not mean one damn thing to someone other than you. You have not changed one mind or spirit with your atheist rantings.
Well I'm not going to stir up this hornets nest but I'll just drop this here.
https://i.imgflip.com/glpst.jpg
You give me the impression that you have never read a counter argument to any of your positions. You need folks to just accept that your assumptions are true without evidence. If they won't, then they are not open-minded. Give me a fuckin break!
Spot the hysterical, desperate child; the one who covers his ears and closes his mind to an opposing, reasoned and well-crafted denial of theism.
The one who shouts a lot. Clue: it’s not the late Mr Hitchens.
For me at this point pretending to respect people’s religious beliefs is an exercise in futility. I do not respect people who CHOOSE to be gullible and uneducated - and try to foist that nonsense onto me.
In any long grudge match between believers and non-believers, both sides emerge unmoved and frustrated.
But there is an alternative version of Godwin's law: God wins.
You definitely have not been looking at things through Serene eyes or you would notice that this is all God's magic trick
We are and have been under a continuity of government 0syop for over a decade where every single thing the government does is staged by Trump in the military in a white hat continuity of government psyop...
Gavin newsom isn't even a real person it's a persona that John f Kennedy Jr has taken on after faked his death........
That's right you heard me that's literally John f Kennedy Jr not Gavin newsom...
You guys are being mind f***** in a grand way by white hats and military intelligence...
https://www.nvestig8.life/the_world_is_fake
AF. Well you do hit some points squarely but Trump? Hahaha. He’s small fish. A clown in a production. This is all NATO military ops conducted out of Swiss Bank Authority in Basel and Zurich. If you know their names, they’re not at the top. BIS issues all the approvals or nothing happens. Globally. The US is not a sovereign nation. It’s a Hunger Game village of 12 districts among 38 others on the earth. Yup. A psyop for certain.
California Not-So-Dreamin’
All the skin looks brown
The LA sky is gray
Block after block
Don’t know why we stay
No more safety found
On the streets of LA
California burning’
Just another LA day
If a big bunch of kosher curated illegals run up and down in the streets wrecking stuff isn't that technically a foreign invasion. Aren't there a bunch of empty FEMA concentration camps intended for American citizens that haven't been used yet? Send the National Guard and military to round up the invaders and put them in the camps, no kosher owned whore "judge" need be involved. Feed them cornmeal gruel until they are exported.
Yep! And where is our military who is charged with the defense of this country from enemies foreign and domestic? Oh yeah, they are in Germany, Kuwait, South Korea, Japan, Djibouti, Iraq, Yemen, Syria, and a whole slew of other nations. Don't worry, they are busy "DEFENDING" America from the bad guys while our cities burn from within.
Makes sense, doesn't it?
Defending that "democracy."
Spreading America's brand of Democracy to Countries that do not want it. You know that kind of Democracy that brings transgenders, gay pride parades, feminism, rampant abortions, drugs, pornography, godlessness and all kind of deviance and depredations. Why wouldn't they want America's Democracy??
Yes, this is a PERFECT opportunity for Trump to play rough. If he doesn't, it will be very telling indeed.
Just deport them...no reason to keep them feeding off tax money.
Don't even need to deport them. Just cut off all the benefits and jobs and they'll go home on their own.
How about picking them up one by one, checking their immigration status and immediately running them down i5 to TJ and dumping them into Mexico. The riots (not protests) would stop.
Quite so. Keep it simple. This is the real Wall. And yes, get very rough with employers who break these rules. Very rough. First, civil penalties, like fines. Then criminal penalties. As time goes by and it doesn't stop, expose them in the media for the first offense. Ruin them.
Fine them hard. I'm talking 50% annual earnings for first offense. Hit em hard in the wallet and they'll learn.
"Send the National Guard and military to round up the invaders and put them in the camps, no kosher owned whore "judge" need be involved. Feed them cornmeal gruel until they are exported."
That is unconstitutional -- a gruel and unusual punishment.
"They are coming close to presenting themselves as a foreign enemy army and, as such, would invite a response from the defending US military."
Coming close? I would say this is blatantly a foreign enemy within our sovereign nation, as has been obvious since the invasion began. We have been wringng our hands over the incursion of military-aged men for the last three years! When are we going to act to preserve our Republic? I don't care anymore who the puppeteers are who are globally wrecking the sovereignty of every Western nation. Palantir? Rockefellers? Soros? Bilderberg? Trilateral Commision? Who cares, and at this point what difference does it make, as Killary Klinton said as she blew off Benghazi? I don't care anymore WHO is causing the chaos worldwide, because it is UP TO US to try to restore what is left of our tattered republic. Since Trump still appears be our Grey Champion in this fourth turning, I will stand behind him, as long as he does not prove himself a turncoat. He best tread carefully now.
We all knew it was coming. This time Trump seems to have a playbook for obvious events. It will be interesting to watch.
I do think the repetition of the BLM riots will not go over as well this time. The memory of it all is still too fresh, including the exposure of rampant lying on the left.
Flying foreign flags by rioters is a pretty bad look.
It's smart to stay out of blue cities for the summer, or maybe forever...
Pretty sure all cities are blue now. Coup achieved. WEF puppets trying to craft "Smart Cities" still. They sure are here in Boise, ID.
Well look at the map of how US citizens voted., it's mainly red. If the blue burns itself down, that's on them.
I was in Prescott AZ when some city kids came out to protest. In like 10 minutes they got run out of town by guys carrying guns, thankfully peacefully.
Well that solves nothing.
Sure did keep the town peaceful
Saw lots of red, green and white with an eagle devouring a snake. Looks like an invasion army too me. Where is the US military? Oh yeah, I forgot, spread throughout the world spreading America's brand of "democracy."
Seems to justify using the Alien Enemies Act to fight an invading force from another country.n
Would more than welcome a National Emergency declaration. Because it is, and would provide all the necessary time to correct ALL that ails us--including criminal lawfare DeepState actors you often mention.
I grew up in two of the small city jewels of California - Altadena and Santa Barbara - and live now in the latter. The Democrats are destroying this state in not just one, but a number of ways. The street on which I lived as a child in Altadena is gone now from the fire, like a bomb dropped on it. They're destroying Santa Barbara, too. Here it's in the name of affordable housing which is really code for pleasing big real estate Dem donors. The problem isn't just that it's become a one-party state lead by a Ted Bundy clone. It's that the CA Republicans suck. They put off potential voters by Bible thumping rather than discussing policies, and handing over any election to the Leftist media, who easily destroy any likability they might have. I've come to the conclusion the Republicans don't want to win here the way they used to, and the way Trump wants to win. I think we're going to see the birth of a third party here. I hear more and more people saying they're not in either party and are looking for a new one. It's the only way we'll ever save California.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. The Democrats are bad. The Republicans are far far WORSE. The Republicans are the hypocrites and hypocrites are the dregs. They know exactly what they are doing and why they are doing it. Do not be deceived by the "R" next to a name.
Which GOPers? There are two types?
The ones who, when they hold power and can effect change end up doing the same thing the Democrats do. Spend money we don't have. Wage wars we don't need to wage. Grow the government. Those GOPers.
RINO’s, Bushies.
Isn't that all of them? Seriously.
How about MAGA? The Never Trumpers form the RINOs and Bushies.
I lived in red California years ago. In many ways it was the same. Places like LA are so big and dispersed and young that lawlessness is kind of endemic.
The only real solution is to break up the state.
Trump could have started a 3rd Party but didn't. That's damning. To him and to us.
Sounds like Vermont where there ARE NO REPUBLICANS only RINOS the governor is even a fake.
Maybe it is time for the "shock & awe" of the truth Joel Gilbert uncovered. I guess I am slower than most (I have been buried in researching "elections" and mortgage fraud). since he has been showing us through his documentaries since 2012. In this order:
1) The Trayvon Hoax (2019)
2) Michelle Obama 2024 (2023)
3) Dreams From My Real Father (2012)
tells you that these "Democrats" are Communists. Communists are not entitled to vote or hold office and Govt. funded NGOs are sponsering some of this violence.
https://x.com/nataliegwinters/status/1931685349803139308
It sure would help to turn off the tap before so much additional property is destroyed.
Michelle and Valerie Jarrett became masters at clearing real estate in Chicago. I guess low watt Karen Bass took their online course.
JHK is right. These flames will start springing up all across the U.S. Are we really going to play "Whack-a-Mole" again???
Looks like it do you have the proper hammer?
Actually, yes. It is the take over of the elections. We have been paraded around like cheap extras in a movie.
1) Dr. Andrew Paquette: algorithms nested in voter rolls (multiple states)
2) Peter Bernegger: campaign finance fraud
3) David Clements: the electronic machinery & "public officials"
It is a sledge hammer.
Dude it's all fake not just this and that like you're pointing out every single bit of it is fake Obama was arrested in his first term everything after that was faked by ninjas in the military and by Trump...
We are and have been under a continuity of government 0syop for over a decade where every single thing the government does is staged by Trump in the military in a white hat continuity of government psyop...
Gavin newsom isn't even a real person it's a persona that John f Kennedy Jr has taken on after faked his death........
That's right you heard me that's literally John f Kennedy Jr not Gavin newsom...
You guys are being mind f***** in a grand way by white hats and military intelligence...
https://www.nvestig8.life/the_world_is_fake
Gee, sure looks like Obama is busy these days on the fringes of a nervous breakdown.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmIflvSY-gY&list=PL_K6Zm0wf3EevHT0H-LEPp_0eW1dLbJKh&index=36
You would know more having Eternity in view.
That's not Obama dude Obama was arrested in his first term..
Then the military intelligence replaced him like ninjas you didn't notice.
Now I have heard it all.
Please deliver us up some proof.
Their motivation is racism, envy, entitlement (ethno-masochism for the white elites, supremacy for the non-Christian whites). Electoral power is an additional bonus for them, but this is primarily a racial replacement strategy as it is in Canada, Europe, South Africa, Australia, and New Zealand.
Their motivation is "Soros Bucks" and the source of that cash is NGOs.
Sure, but what is Soros' and the NGO motivation?
Marxism for all.
But not for them. This is Plutocracy. Capitalism/Communism are one system, heads and tails. The winners and the losers. The Carnies and the Rubes. Middle class? Very little, maybe their trusted and valuable servants and elite workers. In rare cases, maybe they'll be invited to come up higher if they have an Advocate among the Great.
Yeah, with Soros in charge.
Absolute power. Bring down Western Civilization via the Kalergi Plan of racial replacement. The Mutts are easier to control.
Was at the gym today. Could swear I was the only white dude in there. Everyone else was brown skinned and black hair. Where or where have all the white people gone? Do you ever see a naturally blonde haired person anymore? All the blondes I see have dark roots (fake, like everything else in American society). The Kalergi Plan is working very well.
That picture couldn't be structured any better if it were a hollywood movie poster. Oh wait, it is! Good Lord. Seriously? We are to believe those people aren't paid agitators, actors, etc.? Now I just want to know who's behind them: Soros or Trump's people? What utter nonsense. I don't believe for even 2 seconds that those "riots" or "mostly peaceful protests" are organic.
This is the Biggest Show On Earth.
This is all Soros funded and driven.
Not Soros. This is funded by the American tax payer. Just one example. https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/06/07/the-purple-orcs-of-seiu-are-back-on-the-march-using-ice-and-deportation-as-their-latest-strategy/
Also check out the NGO CHIRLA.
Most of the SOROS bullshit is funded by American tax payers as well.
He does not spend his own ill-gotten gain on this shit instead they shovel borrowed money to NGO's who then direct it to his stupid programs.
Oh yes, I read CTH daily. One of the best at analysis of what’s happening.
Remember the $97 billion Joe (or whomever) shoved out of the door after Trump won but before he took office? It supposedly went to Act Blue and other leftist affiliated organizations. Probably a large chunk to Soros’ foundations too.
Yep.
All a circular scam with hands out all over.
Send in the Marines. Arrest Newson, Bass—everywhere one who stands in the way.
That's what needs to happen but the Marines aren't here. Too busy spreading American democracy throughout the world. By design, I might add.
This is all being staged and faked newsom is quite literally an actor... Actually the actor is someone that you have heard of you know and you think he's dead...
We are and have been under a continuity of government 0syop for over a decade where every single thing the government does is staged by Trump in the military in a white hat continuity of government psyop...
Gavin newsom isn't even a real person it's a persona that John f Kennedy Jr has taken on after faked his death........
That's right you heard me that's literally John f Kennedy Jr not Gavin newsom...
You guys are being mind f***** in a grand way by white hats and military intelligence...
https://www.nvestig8.life/the_world_is_fake