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James Howard Kunstler's avatar

Commenters here are doing a good job of demonstrating exactly what I mean by "hatin' on the Jews." You have proved at least part of my point.

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Il faut savoir ~'s avatar

For me it's not about hatin on the Jews - It's about not sending our children to more wars. It's about fixing our issues here first. It's about turning the corrupt corner, the CIA and the Deep State. Son was deployed 4 times in the last adventures in Iraq and Afghanistan, came back without apparent wounds - Not about the Jews, it's about NO MORE FOREIGN WARS. Bibi can decide what he wants for his country, it's not our say.

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Amen, bruddah or siddah. I don't care about Israel. Never been there. Never plan on going there. I don't care about Jews. I've met a few Jews and they were all fine people. No angst against any of them.

No, like you, I am sick and tired of America wasting her strength and means and killing her youth and future by waging wars in foreign lands that pose no threat to America, especially while we have Mexican flag waving invasionary forces in our cities making war against the American people and their property.

What benefit do I get from America's support of Israel? Not a fucking thing. Why should I care that they are the only democracy in the middle east? When have I been harmed or otherwise bothered by an person from Iran? Never.

I'm sick of all of this shit. I'm sick of Israel. I am sick of Russia. I am sick of Ukraine. I am sick of North Korea. I am sick of Somalia. I am sick of the Houthi. It's all war mongering bullshit and it has bankrupted the USA and placed our future generations in slavery to the debt. It MUST end. It cannot be sustained. It will END and it will be horrific when it does.

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john galt's avatar

I believe the ongoing riots in the U.S. represent the biggest threat to our country, not the Russian/Ukrainian or Israeli/Iran wars. The Demoncraps brought in between 10-20 million illegal invaders for the specific immediate purpose of turning our society upside down and when their storm troopers, antifa and blm began their planned assaults, there would be millions of illegals to join in the riots, or basic insurrections. I do believe that President Trump would close down bases and bring our troops home, but that is the last thing the deep state and leftist Demoncraps want, more military to put down their planned revolt and coup. The pictures of Mexican flags being flown in the riots tells us all we need to know, but wish we did not.

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Phil Denter's avatar

You almost see the truth.

Trump's WEF mandates are to smash Greenland, Canada and the USA into the Club of Rome's New World Order Region 1 - North American Union (NAU), instigate then manage the bankruptcy of US Inc. and its US$ and facilitate the transition from the prosperous corporatocracy that we knew (and loved) to their new thousand-times-worse-than-Orwellian technocracy.

Trump brokering and providing Ellison & Thiel a half a TRILLION of Rothchilds' fiat duckets falls into that last mandate. Ellison & Thiel are developing our Super-AI (the Beast System) to, among other things, custom build, in 48 hours, an mRNA jab to "cure" you of cancer(s) that you don't even have!

I shit you not.

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SheilaB's avatar

I saw that map (of the NAU but not called that) during someone's podcast a few weeks ago. The source was definitely older than the Club of Rome. Can't remember who the interviewee was but it was maybe a theosophist text or something like that, which would make sense in a NWO context.

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MarshaLouise's avatar

I do not agree with Trump being open to a New World Order, but Peter Thiel represents the unknown in much of this conspiracy .

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Phil Denter's avatar

I do not agree with Trump being part of the NWO as well but I can't stop him.

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Beata Donahue's avatar

So what would you do if you were the President? He’s kinda in a pickle don’t you think? I mean, Israel is our Ally! We are supposed to help them. That’s why we have allies! What would we do when Iran get enough enrichment of uranium to make their bomb? I don’t want to wait around and find out! President Trump had to make a choice and he hates war as much as we do! But this Happened. And he Had to do something to protect his people! I hate War and I Love Everybody but Iran Does hate us and they have been screaming Death to America for years! I really think they would bomb us if given half the chance! Not being mean but I just don’t know what else he could have done!

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Bandit's avatar

Just as it's not his say to demand our participation in his war.

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GonzoDon's avatar

Oh, don’t worry buddy. Within 48 hours after Trump chooses to join forces with Bibi in military action against Iraq, 99% of his cult followers will be on board with him. No matter how much they praised him in 2024 for promising not to get us into any more wars. Because that’s how personality cults work.

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Mike Simmons's avatar

Now tell us how you feel about Ukraine.

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Frans Susan Phillips Duncan's avatar

Mr. K, I believe most of us don't hate Jews...don't care about Jews one way or another, just as we are neutral about Methodists. It's a brand of religion to most of us, just as there are several brands of mustard with subtle differences. However, we don't want to PAY for Israel and its continual conflicts!

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Harry's avatar

Maybe if you stopped paying Iran, the Taliban, the Houthis, Hamas, Hezbollah and the rest, Israel wouldn’t suffer all those attacks.

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Frans Susan Phillips Duncan's avatar

Do that. Stop sending American taxpayers' money to ANY foreign country for ANY reason.

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GonzoDon's avatar

While China continues to extend and strengthen its power and influence across the planet while we retreat. That makes perfect sense.

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Frans Susan Phillips Duncan's avatar

Sacrificing American men makes no sense.

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Don's avatar

How does spending money on health promotion, small business training, or agricultural development programs in countries like the Ivory Coast or Ecuador “sacrifice American men”?

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Graeme Bird's avatar

The Americans didn’t pay Iran anything liar.

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Mike Simmons's avatar

Obama Administration support to Iran:

- Direct Payments: ~$1.709 billion ($1.7 billion settlement + $9 million heavy water).

- Sanctions Relief: ~$50–56 billion (JCPOA unfrozen assets).

- Total: ~$51.709–57.709 billion.

- Biden Administration support to Iran:

- Direct Payments: $0.

- Sanctions Relief: ~$116 billion ($6 billion prisoner swap + $10 billion Iraq waiver + $100 billion oil revenue from lax enforcement).

- Total: ~$116 billion.

- Combined Total: ~$167.709–173.709 billion.

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Graeme Bird's avatar

After the Iran Iraq war there was no basis for sanctions against Iran. The idea was completely ridiculous.

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Graeme Bird's avatar

You fucking lying cunt. Sanctions relief is not support for Iran. Jews in the treasury who dole out sanctions are damaging the people of the US AND the country they sanction. The idea for a financially broke country like the US is to get rid of all sanctions and then put a small revenue raising tariff over the top. You can’t afford to do anything else. But the Jews in treasury don’t care how much they harm the US.

You are so full of shit Simmons. Are you a Jew?

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Graeme Bird's avatar

No there was no financial support for Iran. They were giving back money they had stolen. What must be understood is that the Jew thinks he owns all of creation. So when he steals something fair and square he hates the idea of giving it back.

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Graeme Bird's avatar

Obama did not give Iran any American money you lying Jew. That was stolen Iranian money. Giving back what you stole is not funding Iran. You certainly funded anti-Iranian terrorists in Iran. You have never funded post revolution Iran at all.

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Mike Simmons's avatar

There was no basis for sanctions relief other than Obama loving Moslems and Biden having dementia. The effect was the same as giving Iran money it otherwise would not have.

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Phil Denter's avatar

"Iron Dome is a sieve." - Col. Douglas Mcgregor

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"All of this funding comes from U.S. taxpayers."

Close. Actually, this funding is conjured out of a Rothschild's butt and then the conjured debt is assigned to the U.S. taxpayers.

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Mike Simmons's avatar

The $3.8 billion pales in comparison to...

Obama Administration support to Iran:

- Direct Payments: ~$1.709 billion ($1.7 billion settlement + $9 million heavy water).

- Sanctions Relief: ~$50–56 billion (JCPOA unfrozen assets).

- Total: ~$51.709–57.709 billion.

- Biden Administration support to Iran:

- Direct Payments: $0.

- Sanctions Relief: ~$116 billion ($6 billion prisoner swap + $10 billion Iraq waiver + $100 billion oil revenue from lax enforcement).

- Total: ~$116 billion.

- Combined Total: ~$167.709–173.709 billion.

I’m sorry you have trouble thinking.

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Mark Jacob Wood's avatar

What you represent is an in-group of very intelligent war criminals and their adjuncts and functionaries, most of whom have no real religious faith, the same as you do not. (I'm pretty sure I've seen you identify as "atheist" before.) This non-believing criminal class cowers behind Judaism, but they'll send poor and working-class Jews to their deaths about as readily as they'll send Ukrainian Nazis or Russian Slavs to theirs.

That's why Israel has stopped letting Israelis leave Israel the same way Zelensky/Kolomoisky stopped letting Ukrainians leave after the Maidan war entered its new phase in 2022.

The next step is to conscript Israeli Jews, throw them in the backs of trucks, and toss them into whatever front lines emerge against Iran on the ground, the same way Zelensky culled his country of young Ukrainians who might otherwise be leading a revolt against his puppet regime. Now who hates Jews more, a spiritual agnostic like me who would want nothing more than to spare young Israelis such a terrible fate, or an atheist like you who would happily see hundreds of thousands of conscripted Israelis die in these newly minted killing fields in Libya and Syria, Iraq and Iran, just so you can keep getting likes and shares off this war-pig bloviating that you do?

Honestly, I think peace-loving Jews who listen to you will have no future will end up turning on you even more than the rest of us have. Any peace-loving Jew has a standing offer of friendship from me, the same as any other peace-loving citizen of the world does.

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Lugh's avatar

I've heard Ukrainian men are arming and now fighting back against Zelensky's press gangs. One recalls Solzhenitsyn's regret over the pacifist weakness of himself and his cohort.

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Mark Jacob Wood's avatar

I think we're all realizing if we'd stood up to all this much more vigorously, much much earlier, things would be not so bad for us today. I bet future generations are not going to make the mistake my very high-trust generation did.

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Every "generation" I've observed, over a half century now, makes this mistake. It took less than 16 years for America to go from the Vietnam disaster to a 180-degree recovery, via a top-tier Hollywood production, the exquisitely manufactured "coalition of the willing" by Bush Sr. against Iraq in the 1991 steamrolling of Kuwait and parts of Iraq (aka the "Gulf War").

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MarshaLouise's avatar

And here we are massively struggling against the New World Order, also proclaimed by Bush Sr.

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Phil Denter's avatar

You've a normalcy bias vis-a-vis the future.

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Mark Jacob Wood's avatar

It's actually funny, having been immersed in Kunstler's Long Emergency rhetoric for so long, and having been basically an establishment liberal who believed the UN's pronouncements that climate change was going to consume us by 2030, it's been kind-of a revolution in my own thinking to start thinking of the future as having even the potential of continuity with the past.

But if Kunstler is pushing all this Iran's-got-nukes stuff that we all now basically know is claptrap, maybe the Long Emergency has been claptrap too, and we're actually going to be more or less fine. Until a few years ago, I'd never even entertained the possibility.

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Phil Denter's avatar

Good to see that your thoughts are evolving, Mark. So many get trapped in their beliefs.

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Personally, I believe in Jesus Christ of Nazareth. He warned us that we will inherit the earth ... but that we've a tough slog between here and there.

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Speaking of establishment-liberal, you did happen to notice that the woke wave of the last four or five years really completely turned on a dime *exactly* when there came to be Ivy League pro-Gazans among them? Everything was hunky-dory about the establishment supporting the the 52 accumulated flavors of international oppressed... until mid Oct 2023 it all came to a screeching halt.

At that point, their college presidents were hauled in front of congressional panels for a shellacking and fired one by one, while billionaires on national TV saying to new lawyers/college grads the Mafioso cry, "You'll never work in this town (country!) again!"

Not a pretty sight... Too bad for them they've made their own hermetically-sealed echo chambers, and have little idea how much even their precious AI mind-readers are missing. Just like COVID aftermath, this is already silently seeping in far and wide, while peak offense against us, incredibly, still has yet to arrive.

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Mike Simmons's avatar

What is the non-military use of 60% enriched uranium?

How many kW of electricity do Iranian reactors provide to their population?

Claptrap? Sure.

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Mark Jacob Wood's avatar

"Nothing ever happens" is an expression that's going around.

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Phil Denter's avatar

Yet, here in reality, shit's goin' down left, right and centre.

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Dennis Merwood's avatar

The US gets nothing in return for the economic and military support that it provides to the ethno-supremacist apartheid nation of Israel. In fact, the U.S. suffers internationally on account of its close relationship with Israel Because of its constant vetoing of UN Resolutions intended to punish Israel for its human rights violations.

There is no alliance, and Israel is not our ally. Its government does not behave as an ally does, it has never fought alongside US forces in any of our foreign wars. Its interests are not aligned with ours as an ally’s should be. There is no formal treaty and no binding obligations that require our governments to do anything for the other.

Pundits always grossly exaggerates the extent of the ties between our governments. Israel is routinely called our “most important ally” in the region, or even our “most cherished ally” in all the world. These are ideological assertions that are not grounded in reality. Dozens of other states all over the world are better allies to the United States than the “most cherished ally” is. And they don’t preside over an illegal occupation and decades of abuses and crimes against the Palestinian people living under Israeli occupation. Now being ethnically cleansed in a genocide with US supplied bombs dropped on refugee camps and hospitals.

The effect of this constant repetition is to make the US/Israel relationship to be extremely important to U.S. interests when it is not. It promotes an illusion of a common interest where no real common interest exists ~ and has now suckered the US into being complicit in a genocide.

The US taxpayers are having billions of their taxes stolen and given to apartheid Israel. Americans do not have Universal healthcare. But pay for Israel to have Universal healthcare. And the US is $35-trillion in Debt. The US and Israel have made themselves pariahs in the eyes of the World. This is not going to end well for the US or Israel. The US will survive. The same cannot be said for Israel.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

I don't agree with most of your comments DM, but this one is spectacular. You took the words right out of my finger tips.

It's all about American preservation for me. This is my home. I am so done with all of the wars bankrupting us and our future generations. Wars that provide absolutely not one iota of benefit to me.

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Tania's avatar

Very, very well-said!!!!!!!!

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Donna Wilson's avatar

Preach it, brother! ;-)

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Jack Perry's avatar

Not so. We love you and depend on you. Make no mistake about that. When you were having health problems some years ago, we were very very concerned and one and only the best for you. Your column is one of the few things I look forward to every week. I feel the same way about many of my Jewish friends. But jim, they are Americans, and they have no more loyalty to the state of Israel than I have to the German Republic whence my ancestors came -- as did those of my fellow Pennsylvania Dutchman Dwight Eisenhower, who lived 14 miles away from where I'm sitting right now.

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Tania's avatar

James, In my humble opinion, and with all due respect, I believe that you are simply resorting to victimhood. If someone like Jeffrey Sachs, who is Jewish, can write what seems to be his most recent article (a couple of days ago, or so) on this whole situation, entitled, "Stop Netanyahu Before He Gets Us All Killed," I would think that you should be able to see that this present situation has nothing whatsoever to do with "hatin' on the Jews," as you like to say, but everything about reality, history and the fact that no sane person wants a war like this. Please, simply google Sachs and his title and read his excellent synopsis.

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SuezCanal's avatar

Jeffrey Sachs? The Jeffrey Sachs who, in the 2010s, advocated for population control because we were going to choke the earth with human beings? And here we are, many nations facing a fertility crisis because couples opted out of childbearing or decided on only one or two children. What else did he have in mind for depopulation? His opinions were as bad as the climate change hoax. I trust NOTHING the man says.

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Lugh's avatar

Yes, the Globalists are against the Zios. Both want to conquer the World. He's a very intelligent man, but yeah, not to be trusted. Of course he is right about the world being over-populated, but Whites aren't the problem. Keep the 3rd World out of the West and let Nature takes its course. Ma Nature knows what to do with "too many".

You see what I did there? Compared to what you did? Not to be trusted doesn't mean everything he says is wrong.

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SuezCanal's avatar

“You see what I did there?” Gosh, HOW I appreciate the arrogance! Thanks so much!

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Lugh's avatar

Anything to get the message across. Slumbering people can only see the world in twos: Good/Bad, Right/Wrong, Us/Them, Yes/No

So your "not to be trusted" naturally becomes "wrong about everything" - at least until I set you straight.

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Tania's avatar

Yes, and I agree with you; however, that was fifteen years ago, and a totally different topic! The subject of Israel, which we are all discussing, has nothing to do with "trust" as you put it, because facts are facts, and on this one, Sachs got it right!

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SuezCanal's avatar

So you say.

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P. Robert Thorson's avatar

It's shown in history that cultures under stress are always looking for a scapegoat to blame. 90% of Jews are in the same boat as the rest of us, on the outside looking in versus the sociopathic connected Uber-Rich puppets we see in public.

In today's world, this Long Emergency has been made worse by the explosion of the middle class over the last century, and a transformation of the workforce from rural/manual to urban/bureaucratic. This quickly left behind a family and moral unit that knew how things really worked, and transitioned to a non-realistic view of things as The Religion of Progress was promoted, and the family and church were attached to be replaced by .gov. As this process reverses or ends, many are finding that insanity is a side effect of losing their status, "wealth" and standard of living - especially since we've been able to get most things "our way", and promote extreme selfishness and self-centered values.

The real world ain't like going to Burger King.

Better decisions on values lie ahead, whether by choice or mandated by necessity, as humans will have to live their lives much closer to reality while spending much more time just obtaining the basics of survival - food, shelter, clothing and local support structures. Next stop - a world made more by hand.

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CARLOS 10019's avatar

No. 80+% of Israelis favor a policy of genocide for Gaza. These are not ordinary folk at the mercy of their elites. Rather, they are ethno supremacist cultists who have been so thoroughly brainwashed all their lives they have lost their moral compass. I know Israel pretty well, have relatives there and have spent enough time on the ground to understand the mindset. What are your bona fides?

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Phil Denter's avatar

"[Israelis] are ethno supremacist cultists who have been so thoroughly brainwashed all their lives [that] they have [no] moral compass."

Sad but true.

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Mike Simmons's avatar

Not tell us who supports a two-state solution and who doesn’t?

Do you even understand the entire purpose of the October 7 mass murder of > 1,000 civilians was to torpedo recognition of Israel’s right to exist, a position that a coalition of Arab states was moving toward?

Hamas could have laid down arms and ended the conflict they started at any time.

War is hell. It is not the same as genocide.

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Nick's avatar

Unfortunately you have no idea what you're talking about Mike.

Oct 7th was about Israel willingly and deliberately sacrificing a thousand or so of its citizens ... in pursuit of a greater objective ... a pretext/excuse for the genocidal territory-clearing which followed (and continues as planned).

It's a dirty game alright (understandably beyond the ken of most normies) ... and it's more or less a certainty it went down this way ... in pursuit of the Gaza genocide and an expansion/continuation of the Greater Israel Project.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1711578357253456181.html

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Phil Denter's avatar

I understand that 10/7 was a false flag op by Bibi and for Bibi. Bibi never wanted peace. He wanted war.

War is hell. What Bibi is doing in Gaza is genocide. Israel even has 'Genocide Tourism" FFS.

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Lil Mikey, with his little 125, still playing his standard "You're so dumb" bluff m.o. against a 154.

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Ben's avatar

And the other side in the conflict exact same issue.

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

Are they really lobbying to bring the population of Gaza down to zero? As in bring out the fuel air explosives? If that's the case then the government is doing a good job of holding back.

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P. Robert Thorson's avatar

Well, for starters my "bona fides" are rooted on the material plane, and I'll leave the religious and supernatural aspects to the Believers. What I observe, at least in this country, is that the vast majority of people shy away from violence. While the rabid few zealots may be in favor of genocide, I certainly don't believe 80%, even in Israel, are committed to that policy. Murder goes against natural law, and doesn't help the human species overall to become more fit. Violence certainly solves things on the short-term, but isn't much for betterment of cultures in the long-term.

What's going on makes far more sense to me if you consider the puppet masters in the shadows playing the part of 5th grade bullies on the playground trying to get two innocent third graders to fight. They need to keep the masses distracted and confused while they pull their tricks out of sight. They use fake news, organized religion, ignorance, 5th generation psychological warfare, etc., to obtain their goals - and Carlos you appear to have bellied up to the trough and taken a long drink of their Hate Kool-Aid. The puppet masters love the narrow-minded.

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Phil Denter's avatar

Right. We must either support Bibi's genocide or we hate you. A or B.

Life, here in reality, is far more complicated than that, Jim.

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Thomas's avatar

You took the words out of my mouth. The hatred is visceral and runs deep. It underscores my earlier comment, the thrust of which is that no matter Israel does, both it and jews in general will continue to be the subject of hatred. Thus, Israel should act to ensure its survival, the anti-semites be damned.

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Annette Jordan's avatar

The hatred is not about Jewish ethnicity. It's about what they do, and there is plenty of hate on the part of many Jews for the "Goyim". Some of us don't much care for their supremacist views. Not all Jews are like that, but many are.

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

The Koran tells Muslims to hate and kill Jews explicitly.

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SheilaB's avatar

So why are the Iranian Jews, the greatest number of Jews outside of Israel, living unmolested in Iran? Iran's Jews are not happy about being bombed by Israel. Jerusalem Post article:

https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/article-857895

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

Interesting. I had no idea there were Jews in Iran. I would be surprised if they are unmolested, as Jews are harassed for being Jews in every country on Earth, including the US and Israel.

It's a no brainer that people living in Iran will publicly support the Iranian regime - since it doesn't exactly allow dissent. It's hard to know what they really think.

At the end of the article it says: "by the mid-20th century the community peaked at an estimated 140,000–150,000 under the Pahlavi shahs. The 1979 Islamic Revolution triggered a mass exodus—mainly to Israel and the United States—leaving today’s Jewish population inside Iran somewhere between the Iranian census figure of roughly 3,000 and scholars’ estimate of 8,000-10,000, with the largest concentrations in Tehran, Isfahan and Shiraz." So the community is down to 2-6% of what it was around 75 years ago.

I have more knowledge of the dwindling of Christian communities in the area. The Christian community in Iraq pretty much got wiped out or left after Saddam Hussein was toppled (thanks for nothing, Shrub!), and the same is now happening Syria. Most stunningly, Lebanon USED to be a majority Christian nation in the mid 20th century.

https://ecspe.org/lebanon-from-a-christian-to-a-muslim-majority-country/

(disclaimer - I don't know much about this website)

It's nauseating to thing that Western Europe is doing this to themselves willingly.

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SheilaB's avatar

The Jihadis currently running Syria were supported by the west. It was to all intents and purposes a US/UK/Israeli coup. Muslim Brotherhood, ISIS and Al Qaeda are western proxies used to destabilise the Middle East to effect regime change. I wrote to my MP about the killing and persecuting of Christians and Alawites in Syria and I might as well not have bothered. They don't care. It's THEIR Islamists, working for them.

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Alzaebo's avatar

That's the deepest problem with this new religion of theirs that arose after WWII.

Their new religion tells them it is either Us (Europeans), or Them. To the death.

Once you believe something like that, you can never go back, never relent. It is real in their minds, a pure Faith. As with all religions, built on the faith before.

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Annette Jordan's avatar

Indoctrination. In a way you can't blame them. They are bred into this idea that the whole world hates them for no good reason, just because of their ethnicity. Who else in the world feels like this? Who else is this protected from criticism regardless of what they actually do?! Its a multi-generaltional mind virus. It needs to end now! For their own good.

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Mike Simmons's avatar

Sounds like you hate Jews because of their paranoia that Iran wants to wipe them off the map. I wonder where they got that idea…maybe statements made repeatedly by Iran?

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Donna Wilson's avatar

Not just because of their ethnicity but also because of their religion. Which, like all religions, poisons everything.

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Mike Simmons's avatar

You sound like a disciple of the almighty church of state.

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Mike Simmons's avatar

Sounds not at all dissimilar from believing that CO2 is an existential threat, when it’s as critical to life as O2, water and sunshine.

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

Mr. Kunstler - I'm amazed you put up with people like this.

General Eisenhower documented the Holocaust as best he could, including videos, tons of photos, confessions, physical evidence, etc, so that people couldn't deny it. And yet people like you do deny it.

As an aside, Eisenhower got so pissed he did a bad thing in badly mistreating ordinary German soldiers by holding them in open air camps and possibly underfeeding them - and that should have been stopped.

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Alzaebo's avatar

Plenty of them do. Few of them have ever read it, most have no idea what it is (a codex of legalistic examples on how to get around the 613 Commandments. It's a mental exercise in lawyering.) You're referring to the Kabbalistic and Sabbatean verses of black sex magics promoted by Maimonedes, which sickens them as it would any good and decent folk.

I'm only saying this because yours is a weak argument, made from anger.

Jewishness isn't determined by some book, just as Whiteness isn't determined by some book. Jewishness means being a Jew - I would rather see you speak on behalf of Whites remembering who we are, which they strive mightily to make us forget.

i understand your rage; there is no forgiving the scale and horror of things the Jews have done to our people. That cannot be undone, so we must go forward and remember who *we* are, unbound by how they would define us.

We, you see, are the penicillin to what infects them.

Thus they are drawn to us, as is a predator who can feed on only a narrow range of the finest prey.

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Nick's avatar

LOL ... nobody can ever criticise the actions of Jews/Israelis.

Do you even hear yourself?

Under Netanyahu, Israel has become what it once beheld in terror.

"Never Forget," they said?

Well, they sure forgot in a hurry when it suited them 80 odd years later to put THEIR jackboots on the face of humanity.

And accordingly, another holocaust ensues.

Netanyahu is a total psychopathic genocidal monster war-criminal ... end of.

He will possibly be responsible for the death of Israel, and/or millions of people across the board.

As Jeff Sachs recently aptly and accurately noted.

"Stop Netanyahu Before He Gets Us All Killed."

https://consortiumnews.com/2025/06/17/stop-netanyahu-before-he-gets-us-all-killed/

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Jim Harmon's avatar

Fuckin''' A

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Alzaebo's avatar

Salute to the K, man's got balls.

Not chutzpah- that's shamelessness- this is straight up balls. Here I stand.

I see Trump as trying to reset the neocon policy that has ruined our brand since 1963. If the Pahlavis are restored, I don't see it as another puppet, but as a Restoration of a rightful king. The Powers are trying to erase their mistake of installing an Islamist Lenin in 1979.

Trump did quiet diplomacy beforehand, and the principals agree: the benefits in dealing with the US and Israel outweigh the discounts offered by a theocratic mafiosi. Nobody wants troublemakers as a competitor of like size in the neighborhood. I can even envision Iran carved up a la Yugoslavia or Ukraine, and the Emirates would happily co-invest in a Gaza Riviera with the old Iran-Israel pipeline of Eilat-Ashkelon parked next to the coastal offshore gas fields.

If Trump "does regime change right", then he will reverse the last 60 years of Mackinder disruption, corporatist colonization, and paranoid aggression. Then perhaps we can get to all the other ways our erstwhile betters have "improved" European civilzation, such as dealing with the fallout of their Great Replacement.

I say he will drop it and bounce, and leave Country #7 to the Israelis to do the rest. In that way, he has paid off the Palantir zionists who brought him to the party, while they provide their own optics to weaken their grip (in the face of their growing strength as the new covert technocrat elite replace the old covert neocon elite. That is tomorrow's battle.)

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Alzaebo's avatar

Now, as to the jew-hatin'. Jews wouldn't exist without antisemitism.

You're seeing a genetic expression, the MA0A gene of paranoid aggression, expressed as cultural praxis, which in turn reinforces the continuance of a set of genetic traits, which express themselves as cultural praxis...you get the idea.

This circle was baked into the bone by an astonishing circumstance some 4000 years ago, creating a truly unique subset of people, so please don't expect our dear Mr. K to change or apologize. He is who he is, it is what it is.

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Lugh's avatar

Spinoza said that as well. It's based on hate of the other which they project onto all others so they can think that they're just defending themselves.

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Ben's avatar

Here is the problem the US and regime change has failed at every turn.

We don't do regime change well nor win hearts and minds at all.

It always turns into a bigger shit show.

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Kalihi Valley Druid's avatar

Who was Epstein working for? Why hasn’t the list been released yet? The United States government has been compromised on all levels. The question is by whom? Is Israel wagging the dog or were they always just a glorified military base run for the clandestine goals of our own deep state? Continued attempts to deny that Americans are being taxed without representation will only make the inevitable blowback worse.

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Esther Cook's avatar

An hour or two ago, I listened to a recording by Virginia Giuffre saying "if you're hearing this, I have been murdered. I didn't die by accident. I will release the full Epstein list. Two names today, and more in later drips. Barack Obama I saw at Little St. James all the time, with boys just past childhood. Another one I saw a lot was Bill Gates...."

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Lugh's avatar

The release has begun. Virginia was murdered but left a dead man switch. How cool is that? Several high level men were named and Trump implicated: She was recruited while working at his estate. He was never going to release anything, obviously. Much more to come.

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Kalihi Valley Druid's avatar

I hope you are right and it’s not just another dead end

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Ben's avatar

This is correct they are, yet another military outpost USED to destabilize the region by the Muslims abject hatred of non-muslims having their own country on Muslim land.

A US proxy used much as Iran uses their proxies.

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Kalihi Valley Druid's avatar

I'm starting to lean that way as well. It feels like a skillfully crafted psyop designed to direct our energy into nonsense culture war arguments that put minority religious groups in serious danger.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

Love your essays, Jim. I have my own theories on the Jews but they are just theories. I don't know much of anything beyond what I can see and touch. I don't hate on any of them. I just am in a constant search for the truth.

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Dennis Merwood's avatar

For me, CK, the bottom line is always Truth.

The question must always be, Is it True?

That is the only way to make the best choices for ourselves, as well as our society.

Even the most inoffensive religious belief systems introduce unsupported claims and take us away from the path of Truth, robbing us of the ability to make the best decisions in our lives.

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Anna's avatar

I am in the minority. I don't want any more foreign wars. I do think the USA is at fault for originally favoring that bat shit crazy mullahs. Do these people read history book? You know why the conquistadors went to the new world? Desperation. The Crusades, except the one in Spain, were a failure. Europe was being choked to death. Some of the people in Constantinople wanted to surrender and just be Muslim. The other faction wanted to fight. The city was taken, but people escaped to Sicily. They took the books. They masterminded how to crash the Ottomans. The Spanish went to the New world out of desperation. After the reformation, they lost Christendom. The conquistadors got the gold and silver and crashed the Ottoman economy. That's what you see in the middle east today. Watch Vangelis...song. The Conquistadors married the Aztecs... Mexico became Christian. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ufkMTshjz8

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

I might humbly suggest the Jews of the world need to invest in a PR campaign. (People need to understand what the Muslims are doing in Europe, and that if the state of Israel is wiped out, the Muslims will move on to their next target.)

The Anti-Jewish vitriol has gotten a LOT worse from both the left and the right in the last 5 years or so, and I don't think it's all because of Muslims infiltrating the west both with people and their money.

I've hung out on Zerohedge for over 15 years now. 10 years ago, there were a significant number of posters that were pro Jewish, neutral Jewish or Jewish themselves. Anti Jewish comments always got more likes, but it wasn't as lopsided and nasty as it is now.

I think on the right it's the perception that Jews are pulling the strings and especially, bringing in hordes of illegal immigrants and tilting the politics towards Marxism. The stresses of the 4th turning are making everyone more angry.

I've followed several people on X (Health Ranger and Michael Yon to name two) for their information on other issues, only to have to stop following them when they show their anti-Jewish, holocaust denying colors. (Not that Holocaust denial is proof of hatred of Jews, but I have never seen a Holocaust denier that didn't hate all Jews, viscerally).

It's to the point where if one is even neutral toward Jews one is accused of being Jewish - just like in WW2. I happen to belong to that OTHER pro-Israeli group - evangelical Christian boomers.

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Graeme Bird's avatar

What complete bullshit you talk. It was the Jews who flooded Europe with weaponised immigration. When Israel is occupied we may be able to slowly and respectfully start undoing the damage the Jews have done.

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Lugh's avatar

In the early days of Gaza Genocide, they opened up a new Holocaust museum in Europe. The absolute cluelessness is staggering.

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Graeme Bird's avatar

This is the first time I have seen you actually denying that the clusterfuck nation that you talk about daily is a Jew creation. Earlier you only appeared conspicuously quiet about it. I thought you were just being diplomatic to avoid Jew persecution. You have really jumped the shark here Fonzie (Winkler ho ho)

After Israel is occupied the only real way to fix this problem in the US would be to round the Jews up all at once then let them go one at a time. Under this scenario you and guys like Mearsheimer would want to be free in weeks, as if for you it were a mere formality.

Whether this solution is found or not you ought to come clean and stop bullshitting about the chicken-swinger role in American insanity. You don’t want to be full of shit in this regard even by omission.

Heretofore I am sure you were regarded as one of us. Assimilated. But the Jews killing children every hour for months on end, the fourth turning, and the coming occupation of Israel will change everything. You want to come back to the bright side of the road and make sure everyone knows you are on the side of traditional Americans. Which means being against the Jews (not ALL Jews THE Jews) and their bad craziness.

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Graeme Bird's avatar

They are a curse James. Surely you ought to know that. You are closer to them than the rest of us. Does being allegedly allergic to conspiracy theory get you off the hook for not noticing that it is your homies that have created the clusterfuck nation? How could you not notice. Can you not escape your toilet training in this department? You have managed to everywhere else.

You should be distancing yourself from these inbred troglodytes. The fourth turning and the occupation of Israel will lead to opportunities to clean up the Jew menace at home. The last thing you want to be doing is soft-pedalling the Jew menace.

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Lisa's avatar

I can only hope that Congress will follow Massie's lead in denying any chance for the US to become embroiled in yet another war. - I'm with Col. MacGregor - "Dear President Trump, Keep America First - Not Israel first, Not Ukraine First."

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Agent-86's avatar

There still is NO convincing evidence that we have seen that Iran is trying to go nuclear, and I'm siding with Tulsi on this too.

That's just a false pretext excuse for yet another land and resource grab theft like Palestine and Syria are also land and resource theft grabs.

My prediction is that Iran never had nukes, but that will be hidden or ignored. World opinion of Israel will worsen as their many deceptions and crimes are revealed.

The seditious lawfare criminals will escape justice as all government criminals do.

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JohnAZ's avatar

So why do the Iranians bury their nuke facilities, peaceful nuke development does not ned to be hidden and buried,

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Blackbird's avatar

Right JAZ. Russia knows all about keeping stuff - strategic bombers - out in the open, as dictated by a meaningless treaty they signed.

Why does Israel hide - in fact deny - their nuclear program/weapons?

Of course that's because Israel is uniquely persecuted in the world - actually, the Universe - and should never be compelled to play by the rules everyone else has to observe.

Signatory to the Non-Proliferation Treaty? Iran: yes. Israel: no.

Allows UN inspectors/US agents? Iran: yes. Israel: no.

And, by the way, what have those UN inspectors/spies been saying about Iran's nuclear program for the past couple decades? "For energy, not weapons." Luckily our President - and Israel's President! - are Level 33 Psychics and can see through Iran's veil of illusion. And it ain't a pretty sight...

Why are our own ICBMs in silos underground? Why are our "continuity of government" facilities inside a mountain? We must have something to hide... Either that or we are taking reasonable precautions. Iran? Even if it makes sense to put your nuclear facilities underground - especially when you live in a hostile neighborhood - that's not why Iran is doing it. Insane subhuman savages don't do anything for a good reason.

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Mike Simmons's avatar

Iran has signed on to many agreements and treaties. They will readily sign more to advance their goals while violating the terms of those agreements and treaties.

As an example, Iran is not in compliance with the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT), according to recent assessments by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). On June 12, 2025, the IAEA Board of Governors declared Iran in breach of its non-proliferation obligations for the first time in nearly 20 years, citing "many failures" since 2019 to provide full and timely cooperation regarding undeclared nuclear material and activities at multiple sites.

Specifically, Iran has failed to explain traces of uranium found at undeclared locations and has been criticized for a "general lack of cooperation" with IAEA inspections. Additionally, Iran has increased its stockpile of uranium enriched to 60% purity—close to weapons-grade levels—potentially enough for multiple nuclear bombs, which exceeds the limits set under the 2015 Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA).

Since the U.S. withdrawal from the JCPOA in 2018, Iran has progressively violated the agreement's restrictions, including limits on uranium enrichment and stockpile size, further complicating its compliance with NPT safeguards.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce3v6w2qr12o

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/iaea-board-declares-iran-breach-non-proliferation-duties-diplomats-say-2025-06-12/

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/12/world/middleeast/un-iaea-iran-nuclear-program.html

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Will Wortman's avatar

Mike, the US withdrew from the JCPOA in 2018.

That means, it does not exist anymore, but you want Iran to still comply with it?

Trump Logic?

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Blackbird's avatar

"Since the U.S. withdrawal from the JCPOA in 2018, Iran has progressively violated the agreement's restrictions..."

Ok, I get it. We don't have to comply with a treaty we signed, but other signatories do.

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Moistened Bint's avatar

+ a million

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Lugh's avatar

The Indians invited the Native Americans (Whites) to be spectators at a lacrosse game. The women had tomahawks under their shawls. The Native American women or the Indians? If you don't know, guess.

Thank God we defeated them, eh? Otherwise we wouldn't be here - at least in this form.

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Blackbird's avatar

Well, that was oblique - but I would expect no less from you.

"Indians"? No, they live in India. I have called them "Indians" for a long time - and every member of the Ojibwe Nation (the Anishinaabe) that I have talked to about it calls him- or herself "an Indian". "Native American is just another name made up by white people." But refer to the Anishinaabe, and nobody will know what you're talking about. So, "Indian". But that name is already taken so, "Native American". I don't like using a made-up, politically correct term, but it is more accurate.

"Native Americans"? It ain't us people of European origin. If you want to boil this down to its ultimate essence, no one is "native" anywhere, everyone came from somewhere else.

Thank God we defeated the "Indians"/"Native Americans"/the Anishinaabe and their friends and enemies? Yeah, 'cause despite being all-powerful and inventing the Universe and stuff, sometimes things just don't go they way He wants them to and we (not His Chosen People but you can't blame us for trying) have to make things right for Him. "Darn those dirty savages I pushed into the Americas! Hey English, wanna get on my good side?"

JarJar: "In Other Words, you hate white people and can't wait for the browns and blacks to fuck us out of existence."

*sigh*

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Mike Simmons's avatar

There is no such thing as a Native American. Every person now in North America is an ancestor of someone who migrated here, or they recently migrated here themselves.

The first migrants came across a land bridge over what is now the Bering Strait.

Do you see the Native Americans in this YouTube video?

https://youtu.be/yzSI4AUm4rg

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Lugh's avatar

Yes, the only way to win is to lose. You're still lost in your fantasy of being an omnipotent narrator as opposed to a character who is part of a group and culture.

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Ben's avatar

Damn nice write up BB.

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Alzaebo's avatar

Jeez. Amerindians. Keep it simple, fellas.

Of course the Allfather, Dyeus Pater, is on our side.

He made us resistant to a rather extensive set of bacteria, so we could act as carriers to do His will and clear the New World of its obsolete models.

What do you think the red-haired Neanderthals were for? The old Erectus versions had done their job, it was time to make some space for the new-and-improved. Unfortunately they missed a couple pockets in the Congo and the Australian outback/Southern India.

Their hybrids, now...in the Levant, and India? Erectus tribal social instincts leavened with White intelligence. Fiercely ethnocentric, yet smart enough to be truly dangerous.

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john galt's avatar

John, you are making too much sense for the Jew hating and leftist Demoncraps posting in response to Jim's latest. They are spewing pure bile in torrents of words as this site gives them the outlet for their hatred. Of course the Iranians have hidden their nuclear production at least 300 feet inside a mountain because it was designed to produce nuclear weapons. The problems we have with the leftist Demoncraps and illegal invaders is even more pressing and deadly than the ME war. The riots are increasingly showing the intent of an insurrection and coup. President Trump has taken away too many of the grifting and corruption channels utilized by the Demoncraps and their NGO's and they will start a civil war to regain their power and control.

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Jim Harmon's avatar

Fuckin' A.

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Graeme Bird's avatar

You bury peaceful nuclear facilities so that the Jews don’t destroy your peaceful nuclear facilities. It’s not the Amish Iran is being predated on by JAZ.

The Jews have been persecuting Iran for decades. Certainly in the post Cold War error Israel has been persecuting and infiltrating Iran.

And throwing the blood libel on them. Israel nuked your guys in Beirut in 83 and blamed it on Iran. Since then the Jews have projected a steady string of blood libels onto the Iranians.

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Graeme Bird's avatar

Yes it does. The Jews destroy hospitals, churches, ancient artefacts. You name it they want to erase all others and their history. THE JEWS not ALL JEWS.

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elysianfield's avatar

John,

Why do you hide valuables in your home when your neighbors are peaceful?

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JohnAZ's avatar

I don’t.

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elysianfield's avatar

John,

I would like to look in your sock drawer...or Milania's, for that matter....

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Ron Anselmo's avatar

E - Melania's sock drawer? Please. Can you imagine the silky, lacey, things you'd find in other drawers? I know you can. Ugh...

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shibumi's avatar

Where is the evidence of what Iran is doing? Where are the photos from an uninvolved third party? What were they doing that caused Israel to act now? Where is ALL of the evidence?

US intelligence says Iran is not building a weapon. Israel says they are days away from developing a nuke. Which is correct? Why can't the public be shown the evidence? If Iran is a threat to Israel and the region, why isn't Europe stepping up? Here is a list of their allies:

https://www.generation95.com/who-are-israels-top-10-allies/

Why aren't other allies involved if this is an existential threat to Israel? Why does it have to be US and US tech? What would Israel do if the US and their tech did not exist?

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JohnAZ's avatar

US Intelligence is an oxymoron. Why isn’t Europe doing anything? That is a joke. Europe is turning into a Muslim state.

Remember that Trump is only going to eliminate the underground Nuke facilities, not try to take over the country. It is up to the secular elements of Iran to grow the cojones to throw out the Medieval Mullah sect.

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Alzaebo's avatar

Since Europe is turning into a Muslim state, this might serve two purposes.

One, it gets rid of a troublesome competitor on the Belt-Road route. One who happens to have been attacking through proxies since Beirut ('82), the First Intifada ('93) and shortly after the end of the Saudi-Yemen War.

Two, it is the match to light up those very same Muslims one's Mideast wars and Arab Spring skulduggery pushed into Europe. October 7 lit the tinder, 6/13 might light the Fire.

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Graeme Bird's avatar

Don’t underplay it. Iran was NOT going nuclear. It’s just the same Jew demonisation we see against everyone in their time. Going nuclear risks being pushed into immoral actions, undermines motivation to create deterrence in more ethical ways, and would damage their standing with Russia.

Good standing with the Russians is the best thing you can have on this planet now.

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Ben's avatar

I suspect EVERYONE with this thought pattern has forgot one small thing.

Every time the US decides to ignore and stay out of global affairs we get a nice world war.

Don't believe me go look at some decent history books.

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Mark Jacob Wood's avatar

Because if we do, we'll see that Zionist agitation was ultimately the cause of both of those world wars.

If we in the US disavow Zionism, we'll know peace. If we don't, we'll share Israel's fate. The choice is quite clear, but the pressure for us to join dual-loyalty Zionists like Mr. Kunstler in their various losing wars is going to be quite intense. You don't want to lose this war on your own. You NEED to drag us down with you. You don't really have a choice.

But we do. We can turn our backs on you, and we should.

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Mr. Raven's avatar

Thank you for being a voice of sanity in an insane world where people who bomb hospitals and fire tank shells into lines of trapped people who have been deliberately starved waiting for food, lecture us about morality, and demand we pay for their genocide and act as junior partner wingman in their wars against literally all their neighbors. And then Jews wonder why they have been getting some heat lately? And don't give me any guff about bigotry, non one is a bigger bigot than Jews, they have Jewish only roads in Israel, only marry other Jews and only sell land to other Jews shades of South Africa at peak apartheid, a regime Israel supported BTW. Israel is literally a self proclaimed Jewish state i.e. an ethno-state, and I am the bigot?

FUCK OFF!

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Ben's avatar
Jun 20Edited

Yes and South Africa is now a garden state that YOU would love to live in Oh wait the government would rob you blind and murder you in your sleep.

The leftist scum are trying to do to Israel what they did to South Africa.

And the rest of the Arab states in the region treat non-Muslims so well?

Tax non-Muslims into oblivion stories of forced marriages and yet its only Israel you fixate upon?

There are no go zones all over Europe where if you are not Muslim you get at a minimum beat, robbed, raped and as Theo Van Gough found out murdered.

Shall we discuss the plight of all the non-muslim people in the middle east?

Compared to Syria Israel is a paradise.

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Mr. Raven's avatar

And why do I give a fuck as an American? If you love Israel more than the U.S. then leave and join the IDF in their genocidal crusade against Muslims, I want no part of it, nor does the majority of Americans. BOTH Republican and Democrat ordinary Americans oppose bombing Iran on behalf of Israel

https://archive.ph/d6qsf

And stop buying off our Congress you filthy war mongering Jews, or bad things may happen to you again, as is the pattern of history when Jews meddle in the state to foment wars and asset strip a society.

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Ben's avatar
Jun 20Edited

One I am not Jewish nor do I want to be.

Two if you can believe the polls a fair majority wants a nuclear free Iran.

War with Iran some want it I don't and have not I do how ever want the theocracy to go the way of the dodo.

Plenty of Americans with Persian descent want the theocracy gone as well.

If you know any ask them, they will say they are Persian not Iranian.

As far as nation building, hearts and minds bullshit we all know the US is terrible at it.

As the government of Iran promotes chants of death to America do YOU really think letting Iran build a bomb is going to end well?

How does this end if we are not involved somehow?

Massive war between Sunnis and Shiites with Israel in the middle!

Why do you think all the Sunni nations are kissing Donald Trumps ass?

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Lugh's avatar

Jews were big in the overthrow of White South Africa. One song even speaks of "our father, Joe Slovo". But they themselves suffered too because of what they did, with many fleeing since they look like the hated Whites. Do they hate us more than they love themselves?

Let's use the old Bircher metaphor as a jumping off point: The middle class AND White South Africa were caught in the jaws of the vise - the angry underclass funded by the contemptuous Elite. Now take one further step that the Birchers never dared to take: The Jews are the leading group in both the Elite and the Communist movement. The high level Elite understand this and are at peace since they know the ultimate objective. Jews at a lower level are at war with each other as is now the case in the United States.

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MarshaLouise's avatar

Thank you, Ben, for the best response to someone whose view is too narrow to comprehend.

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Bobby Lime's avatar

Genesis 12: 1 - 3 remains true.

The surest way to see America destroyed would be for us to disavow Israel.

The Lord Jesus Christ, God Incarnate, is King of the Jews. His lineage is well established in the Bible. If you were a Christian, you would be able to understand The New Testament. Because you are not, you lack The Holy Spirit, and are thereby blind to truth.

The New Testament is clear that the Jews would be displaced from Israel because of their rejection of their Messiah, and equally clear that eventually, they would be regathered to Israel as a believing people.

The surging anti - Semitism of our era has to be the most striking and shocking outbreak of hatred against a particular people within my lifetime. I'm seventy - three, and at thirty could not have imagined that I would see such evil.

Anti - Semitism is of The Devil himself, and anti - Semites remain under the Genesis 12: 1 - 3 curse.

You need to reflect upon whom your Master really is.

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Frans Susan Phillips Duncan's avatar

Has there ever been peace in the Middle East? For centuries, the tribes have been hating and killing each other. It will never end. The US has NO REASON to sacrifice our boys for the sake of anyone in Israel or anywhere else in the area. No matter what Iran does, no matter what Israel does, it will make no difference long term. Furthermore, I do not want my money sent to Israel (or any other foreign country). Those who do and the Jews should send their money and go to Israel themselves to fight this nefarious conflict. The rest of us don't want to fund it or fight in it.

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Phil Denter's avatar

Hear! Hear!

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Ben's avatar

As some have said fight it there or fight it here.

Just look at Europe already for Christ sakes.

The bury your head in the sand group make Chamberlain look positively war hawkish.

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Frans Susan Phillips Duncan's avatar

No need for the US to fight here or there. It's their problem. They will not bring it here.

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MarshaLouise's avatar

Definitely, Iran will love America then…

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Cankerpuss's avatar

"The Lord Jesus Christ, God Incarnate, is King of the Jews. His lineage is well established in the Bible."

Which Jews? The Jews of Christ's time who were direct descendants of the Tribe of Judah, one of Israel's sons? Or the Ashkenazi Jews of today? I do not believe the Jews of today to be same as the Jews of 2,000 + years ago. Migration patters, invasions, wars, and so forth have displaced and dispersed the original Judean Jus to the point of near non existence.

We Christians need to be wary of those who claim to be the "chosen people" especially when these "chosen people" hate and eschew the Christ.

God's chosen people are the House of Israel and all those who are adopted into the House of Israel by choosing to follow and believe in Christ.

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Dennis Merwood's avatar

He is referring to the “People” that matter to him ~ the self-chosen people of “The Fabulation.” If you are not one of these ‘people’ then you are effectively Amalec/Amalek.

"Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and donkey." 1 Samuel 15:3.

Why is it so hard for these people to understand that "My book is true because my book says it is true" is not a valid form of reasoning?

GOD wrote a number of books. That number is zero. - Christopher Hitchens

And as far as religious scripture goes, no-one would believe these fantastical stories if they hadn't been born into a world full of people who already believed the same thing. If a Jew, Christian or Muslim woke up tomorrow and found himself in a world where there were no other believers, how soon would it be before they became too embarrassed to admit to believing in such things as flying horses and talking snakes? They'd rightly be thought insane.

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Ben's avatar

I always attributed such things to either ergot poisoning ie natural LSD or they were speaking of aliens.

Book of Enoch anyone?

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Cankerpuss's avatar

Excellent thoughts, DM.

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Te Burt's avatar

Through the years, several DNA studies have been conducted of what % of people calling themselves Jews. The latest determined that only 3% of avowed Jews are actually what one might term "Hebrew." The rest are various interbreedings, mostly IndoEuropean. The "chosen people" no longer exist (without going into a whole other discussion on whether being "chosen" actually is a thing).

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Renee Marie's avatar

That’s the “tidbit” most people leave out.

“The Chosen” is spiritual, not “favored”.

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Lugh's avatar

Bibi looks like a classic Turk. The leader of Greece's Golden Dawn did as well.

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Phil Denter's avatar

I'm more of a Revelation 2:9 guy:

"I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan."

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Phil Denter's avatar

And, of course, Revelation 3:9 ...

"Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee."

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Blackbird's avatar

Been nice knowin' ya 'G!

Remember a year or more ago when someone - I think it was that AntiSemite Kenya* West - who posted on X, "Church of Satan". Not a peep. Posted "Mosque of Satan". Crickets. Posted "Synagogue of Satan". Outrage and a warning from Musk.

Some folks are more equal than others.

*Thank you Alba, wherever you are...

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Dennis Merwood's avatar

Quit with your bullshit CLAIMS, Bobby!

How about starting with proving that your Lord Jesus Christ even exists.

Becha can't!

Without doing that you ~ you have all your work ahead of you, my friend.

And there is no reason to believe that Gen 12: 1-3 IS TRUE.

My old book claims that The Lord said to Abram, “Leave your land, your relatives, and your father’s home. Go to the land that I will show you. blah blah."

Nothing more than the scribblings of ancient unknown cultist authors who wrote that old book! Why can't you get that into your head?

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Alzaebo's avatar

Merwood, this third-grade ranting and raving only makes us look like assholes.

There is a spiritual dimension, of which you are as unaware as you are the cultural, lingustic, and historical dimensions. The religious are trying to describe something for which they have not the words, so they use a chronicle of political propaganda because that was the only tool at hand.

Please stop degrading the argument, you are bringing shame to your skin.

This childish anger is unbecoming. At your age and IQ, you have never asked yourself, "why am I becoming emotional?" You wouldn't get outraged if you were reading about Odin, or Zeus, or the Aztec gods, would you?

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Ben's avatar
Jun 21Edited

Dennis get a Ouija and go play with a it near a cemetery sometime and get back to us.

Or get a ghost box and listen to it sometime in a similar area.

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Dennis Merwood's avatar

"There is a spiritual dimension"

OK, define it. And prove that it exists.

"Please stop degrading the argument, you are bringing shame to your skin."

You're never going to shame me, or scare me, into thinking I'm doing something wrong, and causing bad consequences for myself, for the simple fact of not believing in the same things that you do.

The ole...."you are angry!"......Talk about a third-grade argument! LOL

A throwaway line used by non-thinkers. (Nothing is angrier than telling someone they are going to hell for not believing what you do.) At your age, have you ever asked yourself, "Why do I become so emotional about folks questioning my believes?"

Unlike you, I have no problem with questions that cannot be answered. But I draw a hard line when I am told there are "answers" I should never question!

BTW, I ask questions about ALL religious believes based on superstition with no evidence. But there are not many Odin, or Zeus, or other God believers in this tread. LOL

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Anti-Hip's avatar

"The religious are trying to describe something for which they have not the words"

If they have not the words by which to reach atheists, why are they trying to use them anyway? It only backfires.

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Phil Denter's avatar

Bombing and starving tens and hundreds of thousands of God's innocent little children is acting AGAINST Satan?

Give your head a shake, bud.

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Mike Simmons's avatar

But the jihadists only mass murdered a little over 1,000 civilians on October 7. What are you going on about?

War is hell, often a response to genocide attempted by first aggressors. But all war is not genocide. It is more often an attempt to stop genocide, wherever it may occur (as during WW2, in both the European and Asian theaters), presently from the river to the sea.

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Phil Denter's avatar

Right. And a mad man in an Afghan cave orchestrated NORAD to stand down on 9/11 too, right? En route to pulverizing to dust 3 Manhattan sky-scrapers with 2 airlines 1 Tuesday, right?

Give yer head a shake, Lil Mikey.

Fifteen (15) breaches in the most secure border on earth (big enough for tandems of "jihadis on dirt-bikes")? 15 of them? With IDF cleaned out beforehand? With paragliders flocking in over the most secure border on earth? With the Nova music festival moved there just the day before? With immediate, horrific propaganda of baby-beheadings that have since been proved complete bullshit? With the Hannibal Directive being admitted as the cause of the festival kids being gunned down by IDF helicopters? The list goes on and on and on if you research beyond the Jew-ran MSM.

Give yer run-of-the-mill little brain a shake, Lil Mikey.

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Cui bono? Bibi desperately needed war. The war that he wanted since (at least) 1992. Do you really think that he just got lucky on 10/7? If so, I must reassess my 125 estimate for your little "intellect."

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No. Legitimate war is between combatants while intentionally creating refugees to then herd them to then bomb them and then starve them to death is genocide. See the difference? I know you can if you just get past your brainwashing.

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Dennis Merwood's avatar

Then God need to stop Satan.

Why hasn't he?

I thought he was all powerful ?

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Phil Denter's avatar

Because the drama is still in progress. Satan knows that his time is short.

In fact, it's darn near showtime!

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Alzaebo's avatar

Long before they stole El, Ba'al, Yahweh, and Ishtar from us, our God was Dyeus Pater, the Skyfather. Wralla, per the Oera Linda, the Aryan Bible written before the Hebrew Bible.

We upheld the Highest long, long before Abraham, while he and his kin were still polytheists.

We are the ones who taught Moses of the One God, he did not teach us.

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elysianfield's avatar

"You need to reflect upon whom your Master really is."

Bobby,

Who can we not criticize? Jews? Blacks? A-rab Immigrants? We are always going to have a hegemon in our society...ain't gonna be you or me.

Are the Jews the hegemon? We could do worse....

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Lugh's avatar

How? They are behind the Kalergi Plan to wipe us out.

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elysianfield's avatar

Generals Barbeque and Butt Naked also have plans.

I scoff at your Kalergi plan.

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elbowwilham's avatar

Such Protestant Drivel. No wonder the Jews hate the Catholic church so much.

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Lugh's avatar

Yes, they funded Luther who was appalled at the Catholic treatment of the Jews. It was Catholic bigotry that had kept them out of Christianity! Then a friendly scholar who could read Hebrew told him what the Jews really believed about Christ and Christians. Men of Luther's type don't deal well with being used. So he switched to: Baptize the Jews? I'll baptize them at the bottom of the Rhine.

The Church tried to avoid both extremes.

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Phil Denter's avatar

The Jews sure do hate ... while constantly whining about hate (to further their agenda of hate).

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Old Russian wisdom: "A Jew will always tell you about his being persecuted ... but he'll never tell you why."

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Mark Jacob Wood's avatar

Well, Genesis 12: 1 - 3 remains as true as it ever was.

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Phil Denter's avatar

Yes. So does Revelation 2:9 and 3:9.

Therefore, we need to determine if the genocidal maniacs conducting Genocidal Tourism (FFS!) in modern-day Israel are God's chosen people or Satan's Choice that Jesus Christ of Nazareth warned us about (before they crucified Him).

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Blackbird's avatar

Who will rid me of this troublesome rabbi?

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Dennis Merwood's avatar

Revelation was among the last books accepted into the Christian biblical canon, and to the present day some churches are sceptical of the book because of doubts concerning its authorship. Other groups considered to be heretical. This distrust of the Book of Revelation persists in many Christian sects.

The obscure and extravagant imagery, with many Old Testament allusions and numeric symbolism, has resulted in a wide variety of interpretations. It's such a mess; anybody can read anything into it they want.

And charlatans like US Pastor John Hagee make a lot of money on that by preaching their crazy end-times ideas to the gullible and unfortunate.

Carl Jung, influential in the fields of psychiatry, anthropology, archaeology, literature, philosophy, psychology and religious studies, in his autobiography "Memories Dream Reflections" said "I will not discuss the transparent prophecies of the Book of Revelation because no one believes in them and the whole subject is felt to be an embarrassing one."

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Ben's avatar

I call bullshit on your ass.

Everything is Zionist with you and that shows a sickness in your state of mind.

Who is this magical YOU dumb ass I am an American citizen that served in the US Navy fuck off with your YOU bullshit.

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Mark Jacob Wood's avatar

Oh, look. More dysregulated emotion from a flailing Zionist. How atypical.

For all this alleged "chosen people" nonsense, you guys sure do act a lot like I've always been told Arab Muslims act. There's a lot of Muslims where I live, and they're mostly totally chill, just trying to work and raise their families and make a living. Whereas the Zionists I know (all online, thankfully) always act like they're about to spontaneously combust. Why is that, I wonder.

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Ben's avatar

Where you live and what % of the population are they?

At 10% they begin to demand special rights.

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Mark Jacob Wood's avatar

Don't get me wrong, I don't support the immigration policies that allowed them to come here, but that doesn't mean I can't get along with them as people.

I know the threshold over which Zionists start to demand special rights is way, way, WAY lower than 10%, though. Zionists don't constitute anywhere near 10% of the US population now (I think it's more like 2 or 3), but everything we do as a nation seems to be in service to them.

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Mr. Raven's avatar

You fucking Jews demand special rights and you are only 2% of the population. Everything Jews say is projection and lies. And BTW your nose is growing from lies Jewnochio.

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Lugh's avatar

At 3% Jews demand and get special rights.

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Phil Denter's avatar

It must really hurt when the truth enters your little brain, Ben.

You spent your life serving lying Zionists when you truly thought that you were doing good.

OUCH!!!

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Ben's avatar

Another post another stupid assumption from the literal king of stupid conspiracy theories devoid of rational thought or proof.

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Frans Susan Phillips Duncan's avatar

Yes, and the US could have/should have stayed out of both of those world wars.

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Alzaebo's avatar

If you are a permanent minority, how do you win over much larger, more powerful enemies?

You tell them stories...to get your enemies to kill each other,

so that you might seize the victory after they are both broken.

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pyrrhus's avatar

Totally wrong...America's intervention in WW1 prevented a peace that would have prevented WW2 and immense damage to civilization...

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Ben's avatar

Actually NO its 100% on point.

Part of what caused World war 2 was punishing Germany for losing the war and that was fellow Europeans not America.

"After World War I, the Allied powers, particularly France and Britain, demanded that Germany pay reparations to cover the cost of the war and the damage it caused. France, under Georges Clemenceau, was particularly insistent on imposing heavy reparations to weaken Germany and prevent future threats. The Treaty of Versailles, which officially ended the war, included clauses holding Germany responsible for the war and requiring them to pay reparations. "

Nice try though.

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Alzaebo's avatar

Quite correct, and who were those reparations paid through?

The Bank of International Settlements was created for Versailles...now, who owns the BIS? And who advised on or wrote those clauses and conditions?

The BIS was the ultimate victor; that's why the interests that owned it also funded the political campaigns of the principal actors involved. Same as today,

There was plenty of world trade, whether for war or for peace, before the BIS.

What the BIS did, was centralize banking, especially war banking (war loans.).

Thus, the century of world wars was also the century of central banks, because now the banks always win. This is Amschel Mayer's strategy of backing both sides- no matter who wins, the bank gets paid first.

Even better, the bank's owners are paying their enemies to kill each other, so that only the bankers remain whole.

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Cosmo T Kat's avatar

Could it be that we were dragged in against our better nature to assist so called allies to win their wars? Now that we are the behemoth we are dragging said allies into new wars with the next big war on the horizon. They happily join because war is the angle the bankers take to restore their vaults with $$$$$$. I don't think it's all written yet or fully revised in an ideological remake of the past and as "they" say the history books are written by the victors.

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Ben's avatar

That is one narrative.

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Alzaebo's avatar

i, for one, do not doubt Ben's patriotism in the slightest. He is fierce only in defending the right, according to his best judgement. Our host Jim is the same, I trust him also to speak as he sees it.

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Cosmo T Kat's avatar

Yes, Ben, we live in an era of narratives. You have yours and others have theirs, I even have mine. I suspect there is some truth in each one. I generally stick to the one that is most plausible and easily defended, while producing the most truth.

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Phil Denter's avatar

Right. The USA "ignore[d] and stay[ed] out of global affairs" in 1916 and 1940.

🤣🤣🤣

"If clues were shoes, Ben, you'd be walking on the cheeks of your ass."

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Ben's avatar

You and your stupid and I repeat STUPID sayings.

The US in those two periods was isolationist except maybe in Canada HIS story books.

Europe begged us to get involved in both wars.

One can argue that some events that pulled us into both wars were either false flags or allowed to happen.

Look it up Phil.

Look it up you don't know shit if you refute this simple fact.

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Phil Denter's avatar

"We stayed out of two massive wars for a year each ... then we joined them whole hog ... therefore, we should join all wars sooner!"

Good thinking, Einstein.

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Ben's avatar

Thanks for finally being agreeable.

Yah muppet.

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Alan's avatar

This is a statement without proof, first because you somehow attribute causality when no proof of causality exists.

Another reason for your view to be risible is that the US, post-WW2, has initiated hundreds of clandestine (and proxy) military operations (often using organizations labelled "terrrorists" by the US govt. itself), regime changes, and overt attacks, "incidentally killing millions of people (including Americans).

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Graeme Bird's avatar

That’s complete bullshit Ben. That’s a pro League Of Nations nursery school story for small children. It’s not appropriate to hang onto such nonsense in the internet age.

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Agent-86's avatar

If I was Sun Tzu in China, this would look like the best time to invade Taiwan!

Most US assets have been moved from the South China Sea to the ME, which leaves Taiwan wide open. Just an armchair military strategist opinion...

Don't accuse me of of predicting what the Chinese might do!

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Agent-86's avatar

Isn't that their whole plan?

Please people, don't fall for this scam again!

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Tania's avatar

Lisa, I am totally with you! It seems that Thomas Massie is the only Man in Congress! It is really hard to believe that John Mearsheimer wrote THE book, "The Israel Lobby" almost 20 years ago! Both he and Colonel MacGregor are definitely heroes: clear-headed truth tellers based in fact.

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Lisa's avatar

And Rand Paul is also out in the vanguard, fighting the good fight - the dynamic duo from KY!

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chris's avatar

Would iran with a nuke change your caculas Lisa?

Protect the "great satan" from a Iranian nuke sounds like MAGA of the 1st order.

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MarshaLouise's avatar

I agree with Col McGregor, but do we believe that we have a threatening enemy when Iran’s ruler says, “Death to America”?

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Blackbird's avatar

Iran's Supreme Leader says mean things.

Israel, and Israel's bitch the US, do mean things.

Who is the bad guy? The one who says mean things...

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Thomas's avatar

"I will make a bold prediction: Iran will be successfully de-nuked. The world will be better for it. Eventually, world opinion about Israel will shift. The world will be grateful that Israel dared to take on this problem."

Indeed, it will. A this moment in history all is aligned perfectly to see that this end is achieved. Israel and the jews in general will be hated by the left regardless of what they do - the deaths of 6 million jews in the holocaust and the countless pogroms before did not assuage the hatred of the anti-semites one bit. Their hatred will only be sated once that last jew is killed. Then they will move on to the next group to be the focal point of their ruinous vision.

Israel must act according to its interests, which in this case are existential. And they have president Trump standing behind them, ready to deliver the knock-out blow, the final coup de grâce as needed. Never again means just that, never again will the jews go mutely into the abattoir to be slaughtered.

God bless Israel and president Trump.

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Mr. Raven's avatar

It's not just the left who is sick of paying for the Jew state's endless aggression internally in Gaza and the West Bank and against all its neighbors. It is Israel who has attacked 3 of its neighbors in the last two years namely Syria, Lebanon and Iran, not Iran who has attacked no one in over a 100 years. It is Israel who actually has nuclear weapons in violation of the non proliferation treaty. It is Israel who expects me to pay for its aggression perhaps with the lives of our young men and women if Trump joins in Israel's unprovoked war of aggression against Iran.

And I am supposed to be worried about Iran? Fuck off war mongering Jew parasites.

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ezinmn's avatar

"Iran who has attacked no one in over a 100 years". Iran has been the most violent country in the middle east, using its proxies Hamas and Hezbollah to wage war against Israel. How long should a country continue to take abuse until it lashes out in self-defense? October 7, 2023 was the tipping point.

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Mr. Raven's avatar

You have always been the aggressors, with the Nakba, with attacking Lebanon and Syria, and your genocide against the literally imprisoned people of Gaza. The whole world knows you are liars and child murderers. You have always been liars and child murderers and that’s why you have been thrown out of a thousand different places.

ENOUGH!

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ezinmn's avatar

I'm not "you", but nice try.

Iran and its proxies are like little chihuahuas nipping at Israel's ankles, and recently decided to take a big bite out of its leg. The result has been a full drop kick sending the little pooch adrift. There can be peace in the middle east, but only when one side decides that ending the existence of the other is not the way to do it.

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Mr. Raven's avatar

"There can be peace in the middle east, but only when one side decides that ending the existence of the other is not the way to do it."

Say the militantly genocidal anti-Muslim extremist who wants to get the U.S. involved in a war that isn't in any way our affair.

We are so sick of your shit Jews, we are exhausted by your endless global tantrums that become wars you expect us to pay for and fight, while you also rob us with your usury banks such that our economy is nearly dead because of YOUR loan shark usury banks like the Federal Reserve which isn't Federal at all but a private banking system owned and controlled by Jews.

ENOUGH!

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ezinmn's avatar

NEVER AGAIN!

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Ben R's avatar

Mr raven is a complete moron always has been and the number of fools keeps growing.

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Blackbird's avatar

Iran is playing the long game, getting us to let our guard down through hundreds of years of peaceful co-existence. But when you least expect it - BAM!! - Iranian marines seizing the Port Authority Terminal in Manhattan, nukes goin' off all over the place. "Fight 'em over there, or fight 'em over here!"

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Chris's avatar

My sarc detector may need calibration but you're not serious about the Iranian marines in Manhattan, right?

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Blackbird's avatar

Ssshhh... Sarcasm works best when served in an unlabeled bottle.

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Sandy Williams-Bozeman's avatar

Blackbird9?

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Blackbird's avatar

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Mr. Raven's avatar

That was my take that it was sarcasm.

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Moistened Bint's avatar

Don't forget the JDL. Those are bona fide terrorists.

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lsgv's avatar

I believe your rant about extermination is about Palestinians, not Jews.

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MarshaLouise's avatar

100%, Thomas! Well said.

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Jim Harmon's avatar

Fuckin' A.

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Graeme Bird's avatar

No. Jews are hated for the evil that they do and for no other reason. Don’t fucking lie Thomas. Child murder is not the way to accrue good vibes.

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Jack Perry's avatar

I will say this again: if you turned on the news in 1975, when I was 14, the news would be dominated by the same tiresome subject, the fate of this tiny little country on the other side of the world, which American taxpayers have been subsidizing since its founding. United States has been sucked into one war after another at least in part as a result. This is after the United States along with the Soviet Union stopped the genocide of the Jews. So in addition to stopping the Holocaust, apparently is the obligation of every American taxpayer to subsidize the Jewish people in Israel until the end of time up to and including going to war. I AM SICK OF IT. You can craft every imaginable argument why it's okay, but I AM SICK OF IT. And I know I'm not alone, I hear Dave Smith and a lot of other American Jews who consider themselves to be Americans and not crypto citizens of Israel. This is about dual loyalty in the end. I'm not an anti-semite. I have many very close Jewish friends and love them. But it's one thing to demand not only prosperity and to some degree dominance in America and one or two other countries and at the same time the perpetual subsidization of this artificially created Jewish state.

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Art's avatar

Yes, Vietnam was all about Israel. Or something.

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Jack Perry's avatar

You're going to have to do better than that to persuade the American people.

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Alzaebo's avatar

I won't get started on the details. It was run according to their gameboard, by the rules they have taught us - and yes, an outsized portion went directly into their pockets.

Hint: drug and weapons trade directly, Mekong oil, military supply, rubber plantations, aerospace and related stocks, currency forex and Indonesian banking, LBJ and the Democrat Party...

thanks, Improvers, for Gangster World. You just keep tikkuning our olam.

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Frans Susan Phillips Duncan's avatar

Vietnam was all about MONEY, as are all the other ones.

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Ira's avatar

last time I checked, US bases throughout the Mideast were in Arab countries, rich and poor. please explain how THAT is due to AIPAC and the Rothschids.

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Ben's avatar

They can't and they can't explain how Israel was involved in the India Pakistan dust up either or pretty much anywhere Muslims go chaos follows.

They can't handle not being in charge with their cursed Sharia law.

Its not Israel they hate or even Jews per se BUT Jews in charge of a Jewish state on what was once "Muslim" ground.

They are fine with Jews just as long as they are under the thumb and being taxed to death as second-class citizens.

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JohnAZ's avatar

“”Was once “Muslim” ground””? Ottoman Empire, before which, Crusaders, before which, Muslims, before which was Roman, before which was Hebrew for 2000 years, before which was Canaanite and Philistine, in between Assyrian and Babylonian. Just who do we give it to, anyway. Here is an idea, how about whoever has the cojones to keep it? That is what is going to happen.

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Jack Perry's avatar

And I have no problem with the Israelis keeping it. I just don't want to pay for it

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Frans Susan Phillips Duncan's avatar

Exactly my sentiments! I don't want to pay for it!

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Ira's avatar

You don't want to pay for it?

how much do you pay?

let's say tyhat you pay $10,000.00/year in federal taxes.

aid to israel comes to 2/10 0f 0ne percent of the federal budget.

expressed decimally, that would be .002

mutily .002 times 10.000

here let me help you: .002 x 10,000 = 20 freaking dollars.

what do you get for your 20 dollars?

1. Strategic Military Presence

Israel is often described as “the largest American aircraft carrier that cannot be sunk”. Its location in the Middle East gives the U.S. a reliable foothold in a geopolitically volatile region without deploying American troops. This has historically allowed the U.S. to project power, gather intelligence, and counterbalance adversaries like Iran and Syria.

2. Intelligence and Security Cooperation

The two countries maintain deep intelligence-sharing arrangements. Israel’s advanced surveillance capabilities and counterterrorism expertise have contributed to U.S. efforts in combating global terrorism and cyber threats.

3. Technological and Economic Collaboration

Israel’s innovation ecosystem—especially in cybersecurity, biotech, and defense—has become a vital partner for U.S. companies. American firms operate over 2,500 branches in Israel, and Israeli-founded businesses contribute significantly to U.S. state economies, such as Massachusetts, where they account for nearly 4% of the state’s GDP.

4. Defense Industry Synergy

Joint military exercises, weapons development, and defense contracts benefit both nations. U.S. military aid to Israel often comes with stipulations that funds be spent on American-made equipment, effectively subsidizing the U.S. defense industry.

5. Political and Cultural Alignment

Shared democratic values and overlapping constituencies—particularly among American evangelical Christians and Jewish communities—reinforce the alliance. This alignment also influences U.S. foreign policy through lobbying and public opinion.

6. Diplomatic Leverage

Israel serves as a regional partner in U.S. diplomacy, often acting as a conduit or counterweight in negotiations involving Arab states, Iran, and others. Its normalization agreements with several Arab nations (e.g., the Abraham Accords) have also aligned with U.S. strategic goals.

Ask yourself how much you pay for all of the worthless programs funded by DC.

I can guarantee you it's far more.

for example, the democrats blew $450 billion on "forgiven student loans".

did yu go onto any site and complain about THAT?

How does that compare to the 3.8 billion per year for israel?

And remember you get SOMETHING OF VALUE

by virtue of having a relationship with Israel.

i recommend that you look up how much money is wasted every year as a result of welfare fraud, medicaid fraud, food stamp fraud, disability fraud, homelessness fraud, and more and more. You and your kind don't seem to get excited by THAT!

I remind you, once agin, with Israel, you get something for your money.

as with all jew haters, you have one standard for us, and a diferent standard for others.

there are a lot of decent intellectually honest morally just people who value us jews, and the american relationship with israel.

assuming that you work and pay taxes

why don't you take your 20 dollars and stick it!

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Ira's avatar

You don't want to pay for it?

how much do you pay?

let's say tyhat you pay $10,000.00/year in federal taxes.

aid to israel comes to 2/10 0f 0ne percent of the federal budget.

expressed decimally, that would be .002

mutily .002 times 10.000

here let me help you: .002 x 10,000 = 20 freaking dollars.

what do you get for your 20 dollars?

1. Strategic Military Presence

Israel is often described as “the largest American aircraft carrier that cannot be sunk”. Its location in the Middle East gives the U.S. a reliable foothold in a geopolitically volatile region without deploying American troops. This has historically allowed the U.S. to project power, gather intelligence, and counterbalance adversaries like Iran and Syria.

2. Intelligence and Security Cooperation

The two countries maintain deep intelligence-sharing arrangements. Israel’s advanced surveillance capabilities and counterterrorism expertise have contributed to U.S. efforts in combating global terrorism and cyber threats.

3. Technological and Economic Collaboration

Israel’s innovation ecosystem—especially in cybersecurity, biotech, and defense—has become a vital partner for U.S. companies. American firms operate over 2,500 branches in Israel, and Israeli-founded businesses contribute significantly to U.S. state economies, such as Massachusetts, where they account for nearly 4% of the state’s GDP.

4. Defense Industry Synergy

Joint military exercises, weapons development, and defense contracts benefit both nations. U.S. military aid to Israel often comes with stipulations that funds be spent on American-made equipment, effectively subsidizing the U.S. defense industry.

5. Political and Cultural Alignment

Shared democratic values and overlapping constituencies—particularly among American evangelical Christians and Jewish communities—reinforce the alliance. This alignment also influences U.S. foreign policy through lobbying and public opinion.

6. Diplomatic Leverage

Israel serves as a regional partner in U.S. diplomacy, often acting as a conduit or counterweight in negotiations involving Arab states, Iran, and others. Its normalization agreements with several Arab nations (e.g., the Abraham Accords) have also aligned with U.S. strategic goals.

Ask yourself how much you pay for all of the worthless programs funded by DC.

I can guarantee you it's far more.

for example, the democrats blew $450 billion on "forgiven student loans".

did yu go onto any site and complain about THAT?

How does that compare to the 3.8 billion per year for israel?

And remember you get SOMETHING OF VALUE

by virtue of having a relationship with Israel.

i recommend that you look up how much money is wasted every year as a result of welfare fraud, medicaid fraud, food stamp fraud, disability fraud, homelessness fraud, and more and more. You and your kind don't seem to get excited by THAT!

I remind you, once agin, with Israel, you get something for your money.

as with all jew haters, you have one standard for us, and a diferent standard for others.

there are a lot of decent intellectually honest morally just people who value us jews, and the american relationship with israel.

assuming that you work and pay taxes

why don't you take your 20 dollars and stick it!

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Jack Perry's avatar

Do you know me at all? Then why are you calling me a Jew hater? You know nothing about me, do you? And you obviously didn't read what I wrote, otherwise you wouldn't have said that.

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JohnAZ's avatar

One of the characteristics of the American Spirit is admiration and support for the underdog. Israel has played that role for 70 years.

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Jack Perry's avatar

And may they continue to. I don't want to pay for it anymore. Maybe they can get China to subsidize their existence, since they're already running the port of Haifa. Isn't that nice?

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Lugh's avatar

Underdog? That was a cartoon. Actually Israel is Overdog because of all the Dane Geld they grift from us.

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Lugh's avatar

Professor Macdonald remembered his student days of Wisconsin University. Many of the leaders of the demonstrations were Jews. Then they did an about face one day and protested for victory for Israel. He asked one of them what gives. The Jew was put off for a second. He had never thought about it, it being so natural. He replied, I guess I'm more Jewish than I thought.

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NY Nanny's avatar

What I find scary is that so many people out there probably agree with you.

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Jack Perry's avatar

I'm not scared.

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

You have an "interesting" view of WW2. The US and Britain pretended they hadn't seen evidence of the Holocaust, because they weren't prepared to do anything about it.

WW2 was grinding on TOTALLY independently of what Hitler was doing to Jews. WW2 in Europe happened because Hitler invaded Poland, then France, then the USSR... (among other countries).

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Jack Perry's avatar

World War II started because Britain and France provided Poland with a guarantee they were in no position to enforce.

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Blackbird's avatar

Yes. (Mostly the UK, France had become a castrated lap dog by that time.) Promised to protect Poland from Germany, and instead delivered Poland to the USSR for 45 years.

We learned how to treat allies from the UK.

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MarshaLouise's avatar

And, the shout of “Death to America” has not happened or it was just a joke? What do you believe?

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Jack Perry's avatar

Well the old saying when I was growing up was, "Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me.". Are we obliged to get into wars with every country that says death to America? How about China? Have you ever heard the ugly things they say about us? Must we level Shanghai in response? What is the limiting principle?

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Moistened Bint's avatar

+1 million

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Jack Perry's avatar

Interesting -- what do you mean exactly?

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MCL's avatar

There are probabilities and there is wishful thinking. This post aligns with wishful thinking. Denuking Iran requires regime change. Kinetics are neither effective or permanent. Of the 100 regime change operations the rogue CIA has run since 1948 how many had positive outcomes? The probabilities don't look good.

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The CIA’s “batting average” on regime change is firmly in the single digits—despite hundreds of attempts at the plate. Each failure hasn’t just destabilized nations; it’s deepened global resentment toward the United States. We’ve propped up corrupt, brutal, and laughably incompetent tinpot dictators—then acted shocked when their regimes collapsed like wet cardboard. Yes, they were tyrants, but they were our tyrants. That’s the legacy of CIA-engineered “regime change.”

We should have learned long ago: real change must come from within a people, not from staged revolutions and fake grassroots movements manufactured in Langley. But we keep trying the same con, over and over, and it keeps blowing up in our faces.

And even when change does come, it won't magically morph into some shiny replica of American “democracy.” We need to accept that—not every culture wants, needs, or will tolerate our system. That’s the inconvenient truth no one in Washington seems willing to face.

This is where diplomacy—real diplomacy—should come in. Not the juvenile version we practice, with ultimatums, temper tantrums, and "my way or the highway" lectures. Diplomacy means respecting words, honoring commitments, and actually listening to the other side. But in practice, we’ve become a nation that lies, breaks deals, and expects the world to forget.

Take NATO expansion. In 1992, we promised Russia NATO wouldn’t creep eastward. Then we did exactly that—again and again. So why should anyone trust a single word we say?

What we need now is less regime change and more honest diplomacy. But first, we need a crash course in what diplomacy even means—and a little humility wouldn’t hurt either.

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Mitch's avatar

exactly and why now? the Deep State wants war.

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shibumi's avatar

We need a war to cover up for the fact that the US-- and Europe-- are going bankrupt.

Those old enough will remember the constant wailing of "Social Security will go bankrup when the boomers retire." Well, that's happening. As well as an expanding federal deficit.

If you're busy fighting a war, you're too busy to start getting salty with your so called elected politicians.

Plus... "big pharma" had their turn to make money during covid. Now it's "big mils" turn to make their fortunes. It's only fair.

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Blackbird's avatar

We need a war to collapse the economy - another bank robbery by the plutocrats.

We need a war to "reset" society - bankruptcy and surveillance and CBDC, oh my...

We need a war to bring in global dictatorship - and "World Peace".

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Carolyn's avatar

My problem with that is that the same lying agency said Sadam had weapons of mass destruction to get us into that war. If you are a GOD following jewish person and not one of those "I'm proud of my heritage but don't believe in GOD" jews, then you must also believe in YESHUA. So you MAY be a covenant Hebrew. There has been so much propaganda and lies spoken of the actual state of Israel. Most came from the Ukraine area from the Rothschild area who incidentally came from an ottoman branch. Not Hebrew. The jews that immigrated to the US prior to WW2 were mostly in New York and the DC area and were mostly communists. Not my words but from a fellow jew who was an actual survivor. The government and state of Israel do not follow GOD. Murder or the unborn, same sex marriage, one of the 3 largest pride parades in the world. Do not keep GOD'S orgained feasts nor HIS jubilees. Nor do they give HIM credit, glory or praise for HIS help in the 1967 war. HE is the One who saved you. The book of Revelation says a remnant will be saved. That false jews have come into the synagogue. GOD'S covenant with Jacob (Israel) had an IF in it and the people refused to follow the conditions. Oh and the 30yr contract signed with Pfizer to use the people as lab rats. And stop using the word antisemitic. Semitic does not mean Isreal only but all nomadic tribes. Say anti jew if you want to against jews or anti Israel. That is word play.

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James Howard Kunstler's avatar

Carolyn -- You demonstrate one of my points: that current events have driven Americans crazy.

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shibumi's avatar

Are people crazy, or are they simply asking questions about the narrative that they never asked before? Trust in the media is low, as well as trust in the government.

I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing to ask questions when the end of result of whatever action is taken is the death of American men and women. If Americans are going to die for Israel-- or Ukraine-- I think the parents of these young men and women need to know WHY it's necessary for the survival of the US for their children to die for Israel or Ukraine.

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Frans Susan Phillips Duncan's avatar

I see your point, but I don't believe there's any need to ask questions. Americans need to SCREAM NO to any further hostile interaction with Israel or Ukraine. Sacrificing young white men for the sake of foreign countries is monstrous! Like Vietnam.

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Graeme Bird's avatar

There you go again. That same blame response time after time.

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ezinmn's avatar

The case at hand may pre-exist current events

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Dutchmn007's avatar

Here’s the thing; Netanyahu is on record - & on camera - stating that Iran is “weeks/months away” from having a nuclear weapon going back THIRTY YEARS!!! Believe the first clip I saw of him stating this was from the 1990’s. Know it’s Al Jazeera but here’s a link: https://youtu.be/Mzmtdwsef8s?si=mV80cY9i1njYYbz1

Now - in the wake of the whole “Iraq WMD” fiasco/con (I suspect the latter) what’s the truth? Iran should never have nukes but that said is it a con to start another war?

Afraid my cynicism is well-earned: JFK assassination/Vietnam War/9-11/Iraq WMD/Ukraine-Russo War/Global Warming/BHO/“Joe Biden”, etc.

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Ben's avatar

One word stuxnet!

Set Iran back a decade.

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And Saddam did have WMD they found WMD and enough precursor ingredients to keep every pool on earth algae free for eons.

They also had an unexplainable 400 tons of Yellowcake Uranium captured and shipped off to Canada.

What went missing was hundreds of tons of High explosives used for advanced bombs.

Saddam had a very bad habit of also buying entire lots of weapons and ammo some of it as old as WWI munitions and arms enough to fill warehouses all over Iraq.

Last, we come to those burn pits that have sickened, infirmed and eventually now is killing gulf war vets what do you think they were burning in all those burn pits?

Do you think the US government was going to announce to the world we found them, and they are everywhere especially when they we likely stamped hecho en 'mURICA!

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Dutchmn007's avatar

That wasn’t what they sold the war on. They sold the war on a critical threat of impending doom due to Saddam’s massive WMD program & failure to comply with international inspectors.

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Ben's avatar

Well what does one believe when a government fails to allow inspectors?

A government that has shown a willingness to gas a populace they don't like with toxic gas.

A WMD I might add that is EASY to make from standard pool chemicals.

Iran has done the same EXACT thing history not only repeats but rhymes it would appear.

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Dutchmn007's avatar

Former Marine & then Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter blew the whistle; he came out before the war & declared Iraq had no WMD & for that they demonized him & tried to shut him up.

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Lugh's avatar

Ben pretends to believe Israel doesn't have nuclear weapons.

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richardw's avatar

I always wondered why they didn’t just gin up some “evidence “ once they got rid of Sadam.

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Grant's avatar

Its because the truly accountable who pull the strings have a very shallow level of control, very high level.

Your average colonel or general in US or elsewhere believes they live in a democracy and are bound by the rules. They will die for the constitution. They may be 'locally' corrupt, but still do not understand 'the plan', they are not really in on it. Useful tools.

This is I am sure immensely irritating for the powerful psychopaths who actually run the world, but their influence must remain hidden. The colonel needs to play a part but he cant know he is in the play. So when they went looking there was no way to firk the results.

If the general citizen, and more importantly, the colonels generals 'leaders of industry' mid level politicians ever figure out we are run by say 10,000 folk, worldwide, who wish us ALL ill, well 10,000 is a small number.

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Blackbird's avatar

Too much work to answer a question the US public wasn't even asking.

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Dennis Merwood's avatar

"Religion poisons everything!" - Christopher Hitchens. Never truer words spoken.

If religious nut jobs would just keep it in their heads and in their Church the World would be a much more peaceful place.

Religion - People killing each other trying to decide who has the best imaginary friend.

All religion is bunk. There have been >3,000 Gods.

Christianity: The belief that God sacrificed God to God to save God's creations from God.

You do not believe in 2,999+ of them, Carolyn.

I just go one more.

BTW

“I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.” – 1 Timothy 2:12

“The women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says.” – 1 Corinthians 14:34

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Donna Wilson's avatar

"I just go one more."

Didn't see this post earlier when I made the same point much further upthread.

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Lugh's avatar

Trotsky (real name Lev Bronstein) and Lord Rothschild used to meet at a cafe for brunch and chess in the years before the Russian Revolution. Capitalism/Communism are one system, the latter being a project of the former - it's fighting arm or at least one of them.

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Communism seems to have been invented for the purpose of creating intranational *armies* in every nation from the ranks of the powerless. They chopped up the previously unified formula of "liberte, egalite, fraternite": Set the first two at each other's throats (Left vs Right as permanent war, not permanent politics/negotiation), and throw the last one in the trash.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

God's covenant is with the House of Israel, 13 tribes of which the tribe of Judah is part of.

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Howard Skillington's avatar

About six thousand years ago Yahweh created the world. On the sixth day of creation Yahweh created Man. He then decided that he liked the Jews best.

About four thousand years ago Yahweh told Abraham that he was giving him the land called Canaan, and which Zionists to this day call Israel.

In 1917 British Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour wrote a letter to Lord Rothschild, declaring that the modern land of Palestine was to be given to the Jews as their homeland. This was complicated by the fact that at the time of the British occupation of Palestine, the Jewish population comprised less than a tenth of the total population.

For the next thirty years Menachem Begin and his cohort of founding fathers developed modern techniques of terrorism to bomb Palestine, in preparation for Jewish occupation.

During the 1948 Palestine war in which the State of Israel was established, around 700,000 Palestinian Arabs, or 85% of the total population of the territory Israel captured, were expelled or fled from their homes. This was Yahweh’s will because – recall - Yahweh likes the Jews best.

Most of today’s Israeli citizens are non-Semitic people from Eastern Europe and, more recently, from Brooklyn, who are not even distantly related to the longtime minority Jewish population of Palestine, but Yahweh likes them best, too, because at some point their ancestors embraced the Jewish faith.

The Palestinians from whom today’s Israelis took their homes, farms, and towns, should accept that fact without resistance, because Yahweh does not like them.

The great thing about having Yahweh like you best is that, no matter what you do, you get to keep the land of Canaan, forever. (By the way, the name Canaan is associated with the ancient region corresponding to modern-day Israel, Palestine, Lebanon, and parts of Syria and Jordan. Today’s Zionists refer to this region as “Greater Israel.”)

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Cankerpuss's avatar

It would be pretty damned hard to have faith in a God that plays and has favorites.

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Blackbird's avatar

Yeah, what do you even say to a God like that?

"Let me talk to your Manager"

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Cankerpuss's avatar

God cannot be a respecter of persons. In order to have faith in a God one must believe that they have the same opportunity as all others. Otherwise nobody will believe in that God and amen to that God's authority.

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Moreover, what use would an infinitely-powerful, infinitely intelligent, *and* infinitely-loving God *ever* have for *any* godmonger (never mind untold numbers of them eternally arguing with each other) to spend thousands of years interpreting and re-interpreting God to the faithful? God would simply endow all of us with adequate understanding and temperament, and we'd all live in peace.

I mean, it's basically Occam's razor. In contrast, the loads of big fat scripture books of stories to "teach" us all these things, especially about otherwise well-known-to-the-ancients human nature, is simply silly contortions.

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Howard Skillington's avatar

It certainly would for me. Personally, I've never much liked the guy.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

God: " You have done well, lived a good life, been a good father, been honest in your dealings with your fellow man, kept my commandments and have served others."

Dead Dude: "Does that mean I can now enter your eternal paradise and have eternal peace?"

God: "Hold on a minute. You weren't a Jew. Sorry, off you go to hang out with the heathens in hell."

Dead Dude: "What about all the good I did and how I lived a righteous life? Does this not matter to you?"

God: "Yeah, I appreciate that, but, unfortunately, you weren't born into the correct lineage. Sorry about that. Off you go."

If this is God and this is God's plan then I don't want any part of it. Period.

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Howard Skillington's avatar

Yes, he was a miserable excuse for a deity. Just as irrational, vengeful, and hateful as Zeus or Wotan. It's just as well that he's dead.

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Blackbird's avatar

Odin/Wotan never claimed to be perfect - unlike some other gods... He embraced his imperfection.

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Howard Skillington's avatar

Yeah. Crow, eye patch, spear - he definitely had more style than Yahweh.

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Lugh's avatar

Read much of the Old Testament. Yahweh is a Devil or the Devil. Christ will have to teach us when He returns as to which parts were good and which parts are to be eschewed.

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Howard Skillington's avatar

I regard every verse of the Bible as equally valid and inerrant.

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Donna Wilson's avatar

The Bible is a vile piece of barbaric Iron Age literature. Most of it, anyway. Genocide, rape, murder, racism, sexism, slavery, persecution, ugly revolting executions (JC anyone), human sacrifice (JC again, Jephthah to mention a couple), etc. etc. God is love. Sure he is.

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JohnAZ's avatar

He did not decide He liked Jews best. He created the Jews through Abram. He created a people that swore allegiance to Him.

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Howard Skillington's avatar

The Bible repeatedly refers to the Hebrews as God's "chosen" people, and to their creator as "God, the Father." If your father constantly reminded you that one of your siblings was his '"chosen," there would be no doubt in your mind who he liked best. So let's not bandy words here.

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Lugh's avatar

Yes, well said. So why on Earth would want to convert to something so obviously wrong?

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Howard Skillington's avatar

Because you get to steal someone's home and if anyone disapproves of any of your behavior, ever, you can simply accuse them of anti-Semitism and put them on the defensive. It's a hell of a good deal, and I like bagels.

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Graeme Bird's avatar

Sure but the Bible is no ancient document. It was faked up around 1500 to hijack Christianity.

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Blackbird's avatar

So the Nicene Council was a bunch of guys who got together to discuss something that would not be created for another 1,200 years? Devious bastards!

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Graeme Bird's avatar

The Nicean Council; if those events happened at all, it did not happen prior to the 13th century. When you are inventing history or placing real historical events in some sort of sequence it’s just easier to throw things into the deep past. There is more room in the deep past for the task at hand.

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JohnAZ's avatar

Did God still consider the Hebrews as his “Chosen” after their leadership rejected His message of peace and killed His Son?

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Blackbird's avatar

God has been surprisingly quiet the past couple millennia...

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JohnAZ's avatar

Yes, the Bible says that Jesus returning for the final judgement is the next step. I guess we shall see.

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Cankerpuss's avatar

God's Chosen People consist of two groups of people:

1. Those who are born into his House through direct lineage to the house of Isreal.

2. All those who are adopted into the House of Israel through acceptance of him and abiding his law.

All may partake of his covenants if they choose to do so.

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Dennis Merwood's avatar

God's Chosen People consisted of no people.

God has never existed.

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Chris Bakwin's avatar

Who created the gentiles?

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Blackbird's avatar

Older gentiles?

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shibumi's avatar

"He created a people that swore allegiance to Him."

That was then. This is now.

BTW:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/religion-has-outsized-role-in-israel-yet-most-of-its-jews-arent-really-observant/

"Ethnically Jewish" is not the same as "practicing religious Jew."

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That’s only relevant if the person is assimilated as well as being openly against the behaviour of his homies. James here is against the RESULTS of the behaviour of his homies. But while as a Democrat he has openly distanced himself from the Democrats he doesn’t acknowledge that international Judea is the driving force behind the dysfunction he himself discusses.

And this week was much worse. War fever rose up in James with the three country (at least three) terrorist attack/decapitation attempt posing as an Israeli attack.

Here the demon inner Jew overtook the accomplished intellectual and he went so far as to imply that Israel did the right thing with this family assassinating sneak attack. An unprovoked terrorist attack on a country that has not started a war since before the US even existed.

So it’s up to you his fans and admirers to take the old man back from the brink here and guide him back to righteousness. After all some of us credit him not only for his own work but for helping Hunter S Thompsons best work along. So James is a kind of national treasure. But it does look like our elderly brother could use some gentle correction.

We all must fight that inner Jew.

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JohnAZ's avatar

Read my above on what I feel about today’s Jews.

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Graeme Bird's avatar

He didn’t do any such thing that’s all lies cooked up in the 15th century to hijsck Christianity.

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Donna Wilson's avatar

Read Deuteronomy 32:8-9. The Most High (Elyon in Hebrew) or sometimes El Elyon (God Most High in Hebrew) divided mankind and portioned out the earth according to the number of the sons of God, and the LORD's (that is, Yahweh's) portion was Jacob (Israel). So actually, Yahweh's dad gave the Israelites to Yahweh. Yahweh's been kicking their asses ever since, poor bastards.

Now I find this very interesting. The "sons of God" translation is the most accurate and is in the Dead Sea Scrolls, and survives in a number of versions of the Bible. It's been revised and revised to try to get rid of the polytheistic reference (sons of God) and to make Yahweh the original Most High that did the dividing, but it is clear from a study of the texts that he is not. Also this explains why Yahweh said he is a jealous god and why the First Commandment is that the jews should have no other gods before him. There was no dispute that there were other gods. Baal, Moloch and so on--they were sons of the Most High and got their portions of the earth, too.

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Dennis Merwood's avatar

Another CLAIM! LOL

Prove he liked Jews best and created the Jews through Abram. Creating a people that swore allegiance to Him.

Betcha can't

"At what point does all of this stuff just break down and become just a lot of stupid shit that someone made up! They fucking made it up folks! It's make-believe!” – George Carlin

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Cankerpuss's avatar

The House of Israel, JohnAZ. 12 tribes. Jews were of the tribe of Judah. What of the other 11 tribes and their descendants?

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JohnAZ's avatar

The 12 sons of Jacob, each with their own nature, each with their own sons and daughters, the start of the nation of Israel. They divided into two sects, the first believed that worship of Yahweh could be conducted at altars in northern Israel, and two believed, Judah and Benjamin I believe, thought that worship and sacrifice had to be done through Jerusalem. The nation of Israel split in half. Judah was the leader, power type of the brothers and wanted power centralized in Jerusalem. The books of Kings1&2 chronicle the history of these two groups with lousy Kings running the 10 Northern tribes into the ground. Judea became the dominant area by Jesus’ time.

The Diaspora pretty much destroyed the Hebrews, but not their religion. Jews already existed all over the Roman Empire when Jesus showed up, but the core of the Judea Jewish community was destroyed by the Romans. I wonder if today’s Jewish folks can really trace their ancestry back to the 12 tribes in reality? Are Jews today Ukrainian, Russian in ancestry rather than Benjamin or Judean? IMHO, when the Father sent the Son to reset the direction of the Jewish religion and He was rejected by the Jewish leadership and much of Judea, they sowed their own future. Note that revelation is written with Jesus as the Judge for all peoples. The Jews became secondary to the Christian world at the resurrection of Jesus. Their refusal to admit their mistake has alienated them from the world.

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Dennis Merwood's avatar

"At what point does all of this stuff just break down and become just a lot of stupid shit that someone made up! They fucking made it up folks! It's make-believe!” – George Carlin

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Cankerpuss's avatar

Excellent summation. I do disagree regarding the eventual disposition of the lost 10 tribes. They were taken captive by the Assyrians around 720 BC and some historians suggest that they migrated north over the centuries becoming what would be known as the Scythian people. These people then moved east and north occupying ancient Germania, Britannia and Scandinavia. The west as we know it today was born out of these areas. It is said that Britain is the Tribe of Ephraim. The USA is the tribe of Mannaseh. It is out of the west that most, if not all, of the technological advances that have benefitted man kind have come. A blessing to the people of the world. Just as promised to Abraham by God.

These people were not destroyed. They were taken captive and dispersed, or, permitted to leave captivity of the Assyrians. They went somewhere and their descendants still exit today on this Earth. I believe they are the white nations of the Earth and through them God's covenant to Abraham has been and is being fulfilled.

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Blackbird's avatar

"...some historians suggest that they migrated north over the centuries becoming what would be known as the Scythian people."

Those aren't historians Cank, they are story tellers. The Scythians were already roaming the Eurasian steppes, and making life difficult for their neighbors, by 720 BC. The Scythians were an Indo-European people descended from the Yamnaya culture - as attested by continuity of material culture as well as genetics - as are almost all Europeans, Iranians, and some Indians.

The language and genetics of the Scythians are Indo-European, not Semitic. This is a story made up in an attempt to link the Europeans - especially the perfidious English - with the Lost Tribes of Israel.

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Moistened Bint's avatar

Ever heard of "The Thirteenth Tribe"?

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Ben's avatar

God write up except for the part where you don't understand that being a Jew is as much faith as genetics.

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Howard Skillington's avatar

Au contraire, Ben. I understand that very well. In fact, I am thinking of converting to Judaism myself so that, four thousand years after Yahweh's promise, I can go to Canaan and steal a home from a Palestinian, too.

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JohnAZ's avatar

Speaking of Yahweh’s promise to Israel, when Judah rejected His Son, do you think that the grace of God still rested with the Jews? Zealous Jews today still believe that Jesus was a criminal, guilty of blasphemy because He did not declare war against the Roman Empire. Fools?

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Howard Skillington's avatar

I would not presume to conjecture about what Jews believe, then or now.

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JohnAZ's avatar

My comment was predicated by a You Tube debate between a Jews for Jesus advocate and a Jewish Rabbi. It is nor conjecture, it was what was debated.

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Lugh's avatar

You know nothing about it! That's why you want to convert.....

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Moistened Bint's avatar

LOL!!

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Lugh's avatar
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If you apply for citizenship in Israel, you'll be asked the name of your mother not if you believe or practice. Most are atheists or agnostics. They may well be the leading ethne in this as they are in Capitalism and Communism.

It's been this way for a long time. The details are instructive: It's ok to be a Jewbu or Jewish Buddhist or practice Hindu Yoga. But conversion to Christianity is very problematic, traditionally. That may be changing with the rise of a fake version of Christianity that puts Jews on top.

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Lugh's avatar

No, Israel and God got divorced. The Church is the apple of his eye now. Judaism's Messiah will be Antichrist.

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JohnAZ's avatar

When you say, “the British”, who exactly do you mean? The Tories or the Labor group? Could the British have “changed its mind”? Think about the lack of consistency in this country?

The UN divided Palestine into an Arab and Jewish state, not Britain. Ben Gurion jumped on the UN vote to create Israel. The Arabs left on their own accord, went into Arab territory and prepared to annihilate the Jews. The Jews kicked their ass as they have every time since 1948. Even today, there are wise Arabs that benefit immensely by remaining Israeli citizens.

1947, 1948. Think about India being divided Hindu and Muslim using the same techniques there. They have been fighting each other for the same duration over the Kasmir+ just as long as the ME.

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Everything melts into parts when looked at closely. Atoms are almost all empty space. The nucleus being the size of a mustard seed in the middle of Fenway Park and the electrons are even smaller, whizzing around the bleachers.

paraphrased from Alan Lightman, Searching for the Stars on an Island in Maine

All knowledges are relative knowledge - with some being far more relative than others. The Jews love to use this against us, but that same can be "levied" back to them, amen? Read "The Wandering Who".

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Anti-Hip's avatar

"All knowledges are relative knowledge"

Yes. So likewise, "knowledge" is just connecting dots we see, in a possible vastness of reality unknowable to humans, while convincing others to do the same (a circle jerk).

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Brian C's avatar

Now, if only Israel could also be de-nuked, then we'd have a level playing field in the Middle East!

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Rebecca Lee (maybeitsmercury)'s avatar

Right. And that is what Iran is asking for.

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Blackbird's avatar

No, Iran is not the one making demands. We lured them to the negotiating table to reconstruct the nuke deal that Trump 1.0 tore up and threw away.

Like the Ukraine, this is Trump's War.

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It's Mr. Kunstler's job--just like it's the job of many Zionist agitators who've infiltrated this great country--to procure buy-in for Mr. Trump come hell or high water. If you look at Trump's history, he's been a tool of the Zionists since he was a young boy, steeped in a New York culture of East European immigrants--and Mr. Kunstler would seem to hail from a similar, ultimately other-than-American origin.

As things get worse and it becomes clearer why--it's not a mystery, it's because we've been duped into fighting Israel's wars at our expense for decades--Zionist sleeper agents like Mr. Kunstler will ever more desperately try to get buy-in for the two-party electoral system. That's because there's a minimum number of lesser-evil votes one needs to even credibly rig an election. If Trump loses his base, the Zionists lose the two-party system.

Trump's losing his base, and the Zionists are facing a pair of bad options--either use Trump to get Americans dying and bankrupting ourselves in Israel's latest war, or leave Trump to wither the same way they leave all their functionaries to wither when they're done with them. The problem with the first option is, the Zionists lose their rigged American electoral system. The problem with the second is, they lose Israel--their real nation.

Neither choice is good for Israel, but only one is good for us.

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Rob Anderson's avatar

I’ve been reading JHK’s blog since the Bush era (a friend sent me the “Eyesore of the Month” link). I think he has evaluated each administration reasonably fairly, adjusting expectations from when they first came in based on how they acted.

The “Jewish” thing (however that’s defined???) is just very personal to him.

I, on the other hand, while I might wish them well, don’t want to pay for another country’s misadventures. I’m a bit tired of paying for our own domestic oligarch class’s misadventures.

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Juan Valdez's avatar

MJW, I respectfully enjoy most of your remarks. You don't strike me as a rigid partisan - though it is undeniable that any intelligent soul reviewing modern news events has suffered terrible frustration in trying to remain "kind" while engaging in disagreement - and yes, we've all been driven mad over it - intentionally so, btw,

- the Elites know that they're destroying the human psyche with info overload.

Aside from that, I sincerely feel that you don't often misread your blogsite interlocutors - but please allow me this observation of JHK as a fellow commentator to be compared with yours, if you will?

I first discovered JHK in about '09 - after I saw a doomsday doc that also featured Michael C. Ruppert - can't remember the exact name of the show. Anyhow, I became completely enthralled thereafter with the true Original Gangstas of alternative-media social critics and cynics of that era - JHK is a Hall of Fame eloquent, verbose shit-talker with not much emotional skin in the game - while Michael C. Ruppert was a self-tortured Rock Star.

Kunstler and Ruppert, among a handful of forgotten others, preceded the Intellectual Dark Web in national popularity - in my opinion- and for me they represented the only set of genuine grass roots, non-elitist intellectuals I've ever found in this country.

But man,

American politics -and international news - whether corpo-or-alternative-Main Stream-media covered bullshit - is today sooo hopelessly co-opted, commercialized, CIA-propagandized, curated, and censored that you can't trust anything digital.

More pointedly, I feel that JHK just naturally aged and crystalized while remaining adeptly articulate, snarky.

Yet, at the same time he - like all of us - was completely baffled and captivated by the Trump media phenomenon immediately after the media-hyped O'bummer bamboozle.

I think of it as an equal, opposite reaction type event.

I remember JHK's tone and tenor 15 years ago - where he was far more - to use the junk term - liberal - in his expression. I believe JHK rationally, rhetorically adjusted to the fully exposed media corruption that generated the Obama flop.

First skeptical of the seriousness of DJT as a legitimate statesman candidate - JHK quite understandably over-responded to the Corpo-media's multi-billion dollar propaganda commercial coverage of the country's latest, greatest, letdown - Donald McRonald Trump Drive Thru part two.

JHK waded deep into the counter narratives aimed at defending Trump from the corpo-media's always intended hysteria-generating campaign. JHK basically bought select counter narratives hook, line, and sinker. Such is the crystallization effect on human brains. It happens to all of us.

JHK is not a Zionist per se - he's an American-Jew - and he is mindful and respectful of the Jewish people's contribution to the USA - to the world. I remember when JHK was viciously attacked personally and regularly in his blog commentary - and he tolerated it - perhaps because he truly believes in free speech.

But these days people are stretched to their limits. It's better to be safe than sorry. Call your enemy's name loudly in the dark, yet stare him in the face with the sun.

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A thought-provoking post I’m not sure I’m going to be able to do justice to. I am not sure I believe this idea about “information overload”—though I have been thinking a lot about it lately, going all the way back to Alvin Toffler (who I was not shocked to learn comes from Jewish Polish lineage). I’m starting to think this focus on “information overload” is an idea that has been inculcated in the popular imagination, quite patiently, over the past few decades. I suspect this idea that too much information can “destroy the human psyche” may also have been a gambit to encourage us not to think too much about the social and cultural changes that have occurred in the US to lead us where we are today.

This idea that we’re about to embark on a “Long Emergency” is up for re-examination as far as I’m concerned, as well, as is the idea that we’re coming up on a climate change calamity that is going to essentially reorder American life. It’s clear that that life is going to be reordered, but since this reordering is going to come as a consequence of disastrous elective wars Mr. Kunstler is helping manufacture consent for, I’m starting to suspect other motives for these various catastrophe narratives we’ve been so relentlessly exposed to of late. Elite decisionmaking is conspicuously to blame for whatever catastrophes we may encounter in the near future, so it makes sense that representatives and mouthpieces of these elites would go to some effort to convince us these catastrophes are a result of Western culture writ large, rather than specific consequences of specific decisions made by our elites—specific people with specific identities.

Mr. Kunstler’s alleged writing skills seem to have been heavily dependent on having an editor clean up after him. I was a big admirer of his published books, but in his blog, I notice he has trouble telling the difference between "who’s” and “whose,” and he mislays hyphens like he had some sort of grudge against them.

This idea that a writer, Mr. Kunstler, who just got through endorsing reckless attacks on nuclear facilities is in a position to dole out advice on mental health also strikes me as questionable. Mr. Kunstler’s policy endorsements are what strike me as insane. But it’s only crazy if his allegiances really were to the USA, rather than to a desperate and cornered Israel which needs a lifeline very desperately. If his allegiance is to Israel first, then his decisions make perfect sense.

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My country's been getting beaten up by Zionist war-pigs since I was a child, that's for sure.

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Ira's avatar

no, that's not it. he receives weekly stupidity injections in his bum.

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Your days of usurping this nation are coming to an end. That's why you and your allies are behaving so childishly and over-emotionally.

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Dianne Warner's avatar

Childishly? Emotionally? Look in the mirror. You are far off the deep end, and disgustingly racist. You actually make me sick.

Guess what? I am not Jewish. I am a cradle Episcopalian. But I was in New York on 9/11 and I had just dropped my little girl at school. And that was thanks go your friends. Proud of yourself?

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If people like me make you sick, maybe you should consider finding a culture to live where you feel more welcome and where the people are more welcoming to you. Especially if you don't know anything about the real story behind 9/11 (and it sounds like you don't), you'd probably be happier living somewhere where knowing the truth of 9/11 is not that important.

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Really? My ancestors have been here since the late seventeenth century and fought for the Union in the Civil War.

This is my culture and my country. You need to move to Iran.

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Mark, or maybe you should find the culture that fits you? You opinion counts just as much as anyone else’s, little to none.

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Ira's avatar

usurping? what have YOU done for the USA? I served in the army went to Vietnam and Korea. i've worked in the high rise building HVAC profession since the 1970s, actually providing useful services that bring tangible benefits for actual people. I've paid a crap load of tax. I've honored wife. I've mentored younger technicians. I could go on. What have YIOU done, loudmouth? Do you cosplay as an "artist"...an "artist" that no one ever heard of or that no one ever will hear of? Do you do ANYTHING to earn some sort of an honest living? Or perhaps you're a trust-baby?

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What do you think of the Twin Towers? Pretty sweet insurance deal for Lucky Larry, eh? Think of how many air conditioners were destroyed!

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I'm not going to disclose personal information in this forum, obviously. But my allegiance to America is more of a birthright for me than it is a matter of how many air conditioners I've installed or how many failed wars I've participated in. I'm not sure when participating in failed wars became a prerequisite for patriotism, but avoiding foreign entanglements and standing armies is a part of this country's founding principles.

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And remember also, the another of the outcomes of the was that the United States.

Maritime traffic through the streets of melaka Has continued until now, Allowing the Is unrestrained transport of oil from the persian gulf, As well as cargo container ships.

That carried american manufactured goods sold all over the world.

That important marine traffic was threatened by communist expansion as a throughout south east station.

Henry Kissinger Negotiated the continuance of that, Making china our Strategic partner.

It lasted fifty years. It may go on longer. Geo strategic affairs are complex.

The vietnam war may have been more Of a success than you would care to admit.

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War stinks, yes. Linear thinking Dismisses the war effort as a failure. Comprehensive thinking will take into account that one of the outcomes of the war was the accommodation reached with china. That accommodation lasted until recently, and may actually go on into the future.

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If we enter this war against Iran, the US as it exists now will certainly cease to exist. So will Israel.

What's interesting is, Israel, as a homeland for Jewish supremacy, has been the nation that it was created to be for decades: A place where Jewish Zionists can feel chosen, seen, heard, by valued by their "G-d", where they can enjoy special privileges and advantages, a place where Jews who feel persecuted can find sanctuary. It's certainly not going to be that going forward, and no one is to blame for that but Zionists themselves, for squandering the great gift America and the WWII Allies gave them.

On the other hand, America has never managed to be the country it was supposed to be--a country with actual freedom of worship, that embodied the anti-monarchical and pro-rational values of the Renaissance and the Enlightenment, and the renunciation of foreign entanglements and standing armies in favor of pursuit of happiness and the promotion of peaceful business markets.

So what might look on one level like the parasite killing the host, on another level, is a chance for the USA to finally start honestly pursuing these ideals. It might not look pretty at first, but it'll be an easier nation for people of conscience to live in than it is now.

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"Immanentizing the Eschaton."

"My Kingdom is not of this world."

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YOU: "Israel....has been the place that it was intended to be for decades, a place where Jews who feel persecuted can find sanctuary"?

So, the 2,100,000 Arabs (both Christians and Muslims) who live in Israel along with another 550,000 others who are not either Arab or Jew.....how does your sick mind explain them away.

Through the unproven claims you willingly make, you qualify yourself as a true ogre.

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Yes, there are. And it is quite relevant to the conversation at hand.

There is a fungus - I don't remember its name - that infects ants. Burrows into their brains and makes them climb to a treetop where the fruiting body of the fungus (analogous to the above-ground part of a mushroom) pops out of the ants head and releases its spores to the wind.

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Ophiocordyceps unilateralis

A parasitic fungus called Ophiocordyceps unilateralis, also known as the "zombie-ant fungus," infects ants and alters their behavior before killing them1

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Blackbird's avatar

Obviously an AntiSemite. Why else would anyone be critical of Israeli actions?

Israel and the US are doing God's work and God really appreciates the Hell out of it 'cause He's kinda busy these days.

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Lugh's avatar

Ok, schmarty pantz. No more clothing for you. We control textiles too!

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You belong to a group that controls textiles? What a multi-faceted individual! Nazi, strawman wrestler, omnipotent narrator envier, rag collector... At this point I would not at all be surprised to find that you are a member of Riverdance as well as a yo-yo champion.

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Brian C's avatar

Anti-Israel does not mean anti-Semite!

Which god? Moloch?

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World opinion about Israel will never recover after what they have inflicted on the Palestinians. It is a universally hated pariah state seeking to plunge the world into a massive conflagration to distract and cover for their own corrupt regime (Bibi on trial) and their involvement with the 9/11 attacks, as well as their global sexual blackmail operations. War on Iran will be an absolute catastrophe and lead to severe economic distress for the entire world (review how much oil passes through the strait of Hormuz.) Why does Israel have the right to possess nukes but Iran doesn’t? How many nations has Iran illegally invaded in say the last 50 years? Is Iraq better off post US invasion? Are your ethnic loyalties as a Jew and to the foreign state of Israel stronger than your loyalty to the United States and its interests? It’s really disheartening reading one I admire so much pushing pro-war Zionist propaganda.

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Close, but not quite...

Israel will be LOVED by the entire world once they have eliminated the immanent threat to world peace that is/was Iran. We will be so grateful that we might even make Jerusalem - cleansed of that ugly al-Aqsa Mosque and its associated sub-humans - the seat of the New World Order.

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That's what the Zios, both Jew and Christian, believe and hope. But the Antichrist will be a political genius who will be able to build the Temple without destroying the Mosque. It can be done, apparently. He will both a great man of Peace and War. How? By being more than a man, possessed by a praeter human intelligence.

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Sub-humans?

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I am Jewish, too, awed by the dearness of our people and our mission to be a Light unto the world. Like you, I suffer when some Jews disgrace our people. Refusing to face reality on it makes it far worse.

Immediately after the Oct 7 horror, an IDF grad said you could not get a cockroach past the Gaza barrier without the IDF knowing, which implied that high-ups in Israel knew ahead of time, and may well have secretly supported it, so Gaza could be invaded. Then it turned out that the IDF itself killed hundreds of Israelis to prevent them becoming hostages. They lied about Gaza atrocities. And what in the world explains why IDF helicopters and military prevented escape from the music festival? These things are truly evil, and it is deranged to blame Jews all over the world--or the citizens of Israel--for them.

And who are the Gazans? They are the descendants of the first (Christian) century Judeans and Samaritans (northern Israelites) who accepted Jesus as Messiah. They are mixed with other races by now, but so are the Jews, as we welcome converts. This war is a civil war within the Israelite people.

It is time for Jews--and all other peoples of the world--to grow up past the hate-for hate, war-for war paradigm and find ways to honor each other. Jews who demand honor of Am Yisroel (family of Israel) are not "self-hating Jews." That is a cliché to demand hatred of the enemy. In reality, Jews often out-Christian the Christians in their ability to forgive. It was Jews who first understood "God is Love."

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"Immediately after the Oct 7 horror, an IDF grad said you could not get a cockroach past the Gaza barrier without the IDF knowing, which implied that high-ups in Israel knew ahead of time, and may well have secretly supported it, so Gaza could be invaded"

Everyone forgets this.

Plus... it took something like SEVEN HOURS for the military to get there, when it takes only 5.5 hours to drive THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE COUNTRY.

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I applaud your posting!

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"Then it turned out that the IDF itself killed hundreds of Israelis to prevent them becoming hostages. They lied about Gaza atrocities. And what in the world explains why IDF helicopters and military prevented escape from the music festival? These things are truly evil, and it is deranged to blame Jews all over the world--or the citizens of Israel--for them."

Lies - flat out, all out. You know nothing of Israel or Islamic intent. You may not even be a real person. Bots from Iran and Russia are on the rampage, sowing dissension and hate.

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Not sure about that. Is it so clearly stated in the Old Testament? St John the Apostle said it in so many words. A Jew who was no longer Jewish in terms of religion. Hinduism also has the idea of God as Father or Progenitor and/or as Mother.

Mo Tzu said to love all. Confucius responded: Even the evil? That would be to deny them what they deserve, which is Justice.

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If true, does this excuse the savage acts of the Hamas attackers?

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"Another White Russian, please" - The Dude

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Michelle's avatar

"- but this time, sitting at the defendant's table on a seditious conspiracy rap." From your lips Jim, to God's Ear.

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I love This Post!!!!!!

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Cosmo T Kat's avatar

What is in it that tickles your love gene?

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How many of the Lawfare Erev Rav are Red Diaper babies?

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pyrrhus's avatar

Our humble narrator overlooks most of the facts regarding Iran and Israel...The Israelis have been claiming Iran is about to have nukes for 35 years but have been 100% wrong..The Ayatollah banned development of nuclear weapons 20+ years ago...Meanwhile, Israel has refused inspection of its own nuke stockpile, mostly stolen from the US and psychotically uses them to threaten nations while claiming they don't exist...

JK also doesn't explain how Israel's crimes in Gaza, which range from bombing every hospital and torturing, often executing, the doctors , while gunning down toddlers looking for food and posting videos of these horrors can be squared with any kind of civilization...

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Those Palestinian "toddlers" were gonna grow up, put on suicide vests, and kill Israeli toddlers. I mean, they were gonna be dead anyway...

Mow that grass!

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Opentrees's avatar

I dunno, instead of mowing down the whole rest of the world, why not just mow in Israel exclusively?

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Brian C's avatar

You are sick!

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It's not me that's "mowing the grass*". I'm just reporting the news, not making it.

*Look up the term if you are not familiar with it. I didn't make it up.

Now quit making me explain sarcasm, that's like putting on a glove when you wanna punch somebody.

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Unlike most people who comment on these sorts of places, I have actually been to Iran. I travelled through it six times back and forth by road from Europe to "les Indes." I stayed in Teheran for months at hotel Amir Kabir in a working class part of town. This was the seventies. It was not that great back then. Nobody liked the Shah. He was really repressive and ran the place with SAVAK or the secret police. I was there when he put on a massive show-off event at Persepolis with crown jewels and robes and international visitors and the whole nine yards. What a joke that was! No wonder the people rose up. Too bad they wound up with those old-grouch mullahs. But starting a war to get rid of them is one terribly bad idea, that's for sure. And it is not our job to free other countries from their old-grouch religious leaders anyway.

Iran , like most other countries in the world, acts sanely in its own self interest. I think the propaganda campaign to portray it as some mad dog outlier is horrible. I think all the propaganda to portray Muslims as crazy and terrible is horrible. If Iran wants a nuclear bomb it is for the obvious reason that having one protects them from getting invaded and destroyed, which Israel is attempting to do right now. They have not preemptively attacked anyone so far and it turns out they had plenty of munitions to do just that, didn't they?

I can't stand for us to get in to yet another long war for no good reason. Aren't we broke enough? Our country is rotting from the inside out, which is what happens when empires overextend themselves.

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Threatening to blow another country off the map is not propaganda Rebecca. Neither is the fact that Israel has offered numerous peace proposals to the Palestinians over several decades that were all dismissed. No one wants war except the eternally hate filled Muslims. And the DS who has an entirely other agenda. Conquer and divide anyone?

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"I can't stand for us to get in to yet another long war for no good reason."

I don't think this war will be very long - unless our Masters have decided it is time to crash the global economy and lock us down. Which may very well be the case. I'm currently leaning toward, "Trump wins the Nobel Peace Prize." But that may just be continuity bias.

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Rebecca Lee (maybeitsmercury)'s avatar

They are always long. Iran is no joke, too. This will be another massive shitshow.

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Iran is not Iraq. It may be "turtles all the way down", but it is not turtles all the way up. We may have reached peak turtle.

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